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Oct 10, 2011 10:45 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Another fantastic episode in regards to background info. About Honda and Azuma. Azuma’s past is sad but totally amazing at how P-01’s song triggered her memories as such,
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That was amazing! It was nice and heartwarming. The song is totally getting me mesmerized by it. Almost like as powerful as the Macross songs. P-01 song = to an Aimo of Macross? Not in the sense of fighting the enemies but of remembering simply.

Now you got to make way for my man Toori in the following,
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My man listened to the damn freaking Makiko teacher and stripped naked! Now that is no lame ass MC of other genres or animes I have seen *cough* Mayo Chiki *cough* right!

Of course after Makiko it had to be Neito’s turn in the following,
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To be groped by my man Toori. They also screwed up a little with the censors. They missed the following,
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Yeah I caught that partially and it looks like Neito has them decent and not monstrous like Asama.

Which brings me to her panties service in the following,
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Nice blue light with strings. Easy to undo so maybe she is ready for it? Yeah right but she has style at least. Now if they were only black <_<

About the preview, looks like we are going to have an intro to Azuma’s roommate and she may have deep feelings for Azuma from the looks of her eyes in the preview. While WTF at Futayo suddenly fighting here but what is weirder is Sakai here having weird looks. While there looks to be some new king introduced and that guy with that girl here will be in. He looks really cool in the OP.

ED is not bad I liked this and end picture was nice too of Toori getting punched by Neito. Maybe more later.

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Oct 10, 2011 4:00 PM
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....roll back again..

Back in the days,human live in earth and they destroy it themselves.Hence, they move to heaven for a better place to live.When God are found in the heaven and its confirm they truly existed up there.The Major God of human(allah,jesus,buddha,and etc..) lose their formal authority power back then when they are on earth.Soon, they return back to earth.( sound like "journey to the east" lol)
Shinshu is too small to accommodate all the humans, so they duplicate the area and create "Juso Sekai" in a parallel world.Since the major god has lose their power, they now repeating the history in Seihu(testament) as their new form of religion instead of worshiping god.By repeating the history, human hope that fate will once bring them back to heaven by following the proper teaching from Seihu.For those VIP who die in history will be reused the same name and they will be concealed when the time of their death is arrive. same goes to like conquering and expanding a country must also abide to Seihu.
Both proceed with their plan in Juso sekai and Shinshu.When the reproduction proceeds to A.D. 1413, a war breaks out in Shinshu and Juso Sekai falls onto the original world.Juso Sekai lose their fall out because their sacred treasure that support them is not in place.The humans living in Juso Sekai lose their land and invade the original world(shinshu). People in Shinshu surrender and the land is divided by the invaders from Juso Sekai.The reason why Juso Sekai is not able to give full power in conquering Shinshu because Seihu did not mention such .So that why people like Toori is given a superior authority in governing part of Shinshu.(but in the end, the final decision is decided by the Musashi king brought from K.P.A italia. ... basically toori is almost powerless lol)

They try to resume the history reproduction from A.D.1457, but the update of the history terminates in A.D.1648. A rumor of apocalypse begins to spread the world.
 
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Oct 10, 2011 9:50 PM

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Seems like a crappy adaptation. Turned something somewhat serious into a crap filled fan service based anime.
 
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Oct 11, 2011 12:39 AM
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Feels like they're trying to rush this show too much. First episode was seemingly pointless, and now this episode seemed to be trying to jam too much in, the result being that nothing in it was particularly interesting.

Not impressed so far. Hopefully it'll get better.
 
 
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Oct 11, 2011 1:10 AM
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sigh this is a hard watch for me. it's so dialogue heavy
the only thing that makes this show better for me is aoi

dat scene TOO FUNNY
 
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Oct 11, 2011 2:50 AM
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mdz said:
Seems like a crappy adaptation. Turned something somewhat serious into a crap filled fan service based anime.
...ehh actually the original light Novel is 75%serious history/politic and 25% comedy/ecchi. I have not much complaint on the adaption of this, it is true that they omit a few important explanation but I bet they gonna add it while the story progress..
Seeing the reaction of how people watch this episode, I guess most people don't like heavy plot Anime with boobs/random comedy on it.

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/678/kyoukaisenjounohorizonc.jpg

who would even think that this book have any heavy plot in it and this book alone contain of 736pages, and the whole series contain almost 6000pages ...( normally LN only contain 300+ pages for each volume)
 
 
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Oct 11, 2011 3:09 AM

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what the fuck did i just watch? i cant even remember what i just saw in that episode except breast foddling! ..time to drop this peace of shit..
 
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Oct 11, 2011 4:52 AM

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A lot of background in this episode. I had to really focus to fully understand what was going on.
 
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Oct 11, 2011 5:16 AM

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This anime needs some good colour planner to tone down that vivid eye burning palette. Overall animation quality is above persona 4, but then again, alot of even garbage shows seem to have better budget. After one episode of fluff it was high time for plot to kick in. But it didnt.
 
Oct 11, 2011 5:54 AM

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2 eps and still dunno what's going on...
bad start for this series.
 
Oct 11, 2011 6:04 AM
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After one episode of fluff it was high time for plot to kick in. But it didnt.
the plot has already starting to kick in... Masazumi the person who aiming to be a politician said that she want to conquer Kyokutou in the end of this episode....

lol here is the name they took reference from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Masazumi
 
Oct 11, 2011 6:45 AM

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I may be forced to drop this series. It just doesn't make any sense to me, which is unfortunate because I was really enjoying some of the character designs.
 
 
Oct 11, 2011 8:05 AM
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I wish I had a oneechan like Kimi xD
 
Oct 11, 2011 8:41 AM

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This was so confusing. And the boobs scenes...ugh...how can people find it funny. It's so blah and cliched. I mean if you want to watch porn the go watch some real hentai, not some ecchi crap. On the other hand, I do feel like there's really a story that they're trying to tell us. However, by giving us too much information in 20 minutes, I can't remember anything, therefore, I still don't know what this is all about. I'll give it one more episode...or two if I'm really bored...
 
Oct 11, 2011 9:29 AM

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It seems this will be the most shallow anime of the season.

And I too hopw that retarded guy gets rejected :P

 
Oct 11, 2011 10:04 AM

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Can anyone tell me what this anime is about???? i mean like, whats the point of it and when will we understand what the hell is going on???
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Oct 11, 2011 10:35 AM
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Wait a minute, isn't she a guy, she did mentioned that she had to undergo a sex change surgery in order for her family to be accepted in some kind of clan?
 
Oct 11, 2011 10:57 AM
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she almost undergo sex change surgery, so far she cut off her breast only.She is still a girl.
it really sound like people cut off its own penis+testicles to enter the forbidden city to become civil servant for the emperor.

<a href="">http://acc6.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~phalsall/texts/eunuchs1.html"&gt;http://acc6.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~phalsall/texts/eunuchs1.html</a>&amp;gt;
 
Oct 11, 2011 10:58 AM

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Somehow seems interesting yet i still have my thoughts about this.
Last week wasn't very good and this was doubtful as well yet there seems to be a very nice story to it.
And i have to say that the personal story of the girl this episode wasn't bad either.
 
Oct 11, 2011 11:02 AM

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How to fondle oppai according to this episode :
1) Get a need to fondle oppai
2) Find someone you want to fondle
3) Convince her to help you out fully
4) Fondle before she gets what you're talking about

And, 5) Avoid the reply hit, for all not M of S&amp;Ms.
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Oct 11, 2011 11:03 AM

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Wait a minute, isn't she a guy, she did mentioned that she had to undergo a sex change surgery in order for her family to be accepted in some kind of clan?


As long as she has no male thing then it's all good for me.

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Oct 11, 2011 11:05 AM
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2 eps and still dunno what's going on...
bad start for this series.

This :/
I know they mention a lot of background and all but I couldn't understand it.
Maybe if I keep watching I'll eventually get the story.
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Oct 11, 2011 11:27 AM

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Aversa said:
Somehow seems interesting yet i still have my thoughts about this.
Last week wasn't very good and this was doubtful as well yet there seems to be a very nice story to it.
And i have to say that the personal story of the girl this episode wasn't bad either.


i totally agree with this, i never so much enjoyed the 1 ep as i did with this one, even though the first episode i did laugh A BIT more than i did in this one!! XD
the OP is just great, and the preview looks awesome, cause they're seems to be a fighting scene, and also character introduction!!
 
Oct 11, 2011 11:37 AM

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after this episode (and the one confusing explanation of sorts earlier) I think I can see the major problem of this anime:

It TELLS instead of showing. And since there's so much to tell (and frankly, I didn't understand half of the things they actually told me. @_@), people get confused.
I feel like the first 2 or 3 hours into FF13 when they just threw random names and phrases at you, and you didn't find out what they meant until later)

I think the show would be much better (and easier) to understand if they just gave a lengthy prologue. and by lengthy I mean, a few episodes, maybe half (or at least a third of) a season worth of.

Ofc, that's impossible fir an anime that only has 1 season.
While some anime may feel like 'too thin soup', this one may very well feel like 'too thick soup'. Still, i give it one, maybe two more episodes to make sense.
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Oct 11, 2011 12:58 PM
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so whos the girl is he actually gooing to confess to??
 
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this ep was so convoluted and jam packed with information I didn't get anything. First ep was 90% filler/randomness, this ep was 90% back story and dialogue.... DON'T THEY KNOW HOW TO BALANCE?!? Next ep better be good or I'm probably gonna drop this.
 
 
Oct 11, 2011 1:08 PM
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mmm a rather boring ep. &gt;
 
Oct 11, 2011 1:50 PM

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This is amazing!!! Or at last that's what I should be saying right know..
Instead I'm trying to understand the plot, they abandon Earth, move somewhere, make a parallel world, that one crashes into the latest and it's now governed by some Italian guy..



Dude.....Can they make this series a 100+ episodes so we can understand something? man....this so had/has potential....

And I really like Toori...watching for him&lt;3


Btw, Who the heck Is horizon?
 
Oct 11, 2011 1:56 PM

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Nice episode! I like this a lot more then I thought I would. I really have to pay attention to every word though, I don't want to miss anything important.
 
Oct 11, 2011 2:37 PM

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after this episode (and the one confusing explanation of sorts earlier) I think I can see the major problem of this anime:
It TELLS instead of showing. And since there's so much to tell (and frankly, I didn't understand half of the things they actually told me. @_@), people get confused.
I feel like the first 2 or 3 hours into FF13 when they just threw random names and phrases at you, and you didn't find out what they meant until later)
I think the show would be much better (and easier) to understand if they just gave a lengthy prologue. and by lengthy I mean, a few episodes, maybe half (or at least a third of) a season worth of.
Ofc, that's impossible fir an anime that only has 1 season.
While some anime may feel like 'too thin soup', this one may very well feel like 'too thick soup'. Still, i give it one, maybe two more episodes to make sense.


actually they could have did that, I saw on another sight that they already have a season 2 set up for 2012. so they could have spent a little more time setting it up.
 
Oct 11, 2011 2:51 PM

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As much as this series has to go through it's ridiculous fanservice ways in order to fulfill the otaku's dream of seeing that happen, it's tremendously flawed as there is NO story yet...

This series won't last if they continue the anime this way.


 
 
Oct 11, 2011 3:06 PM

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No idea whats going on, but at least still enjoying the show.

Again, pointless censorship.
 
Oct 11, 2011 3:42 PM

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This took awhile to get subbed, and now I can see why.
This show had so, so much potential and it decided to throw it out the window. Seriously, as far as I'm concerned this is a fail.
 
Oct 11, 2011 3:49 PM
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Yeah this show is total fail, its repeating what happen in Itsuka Tenma no Kuro-Usagi. Same principle as that show, hard to understand the plot.
well I think this anime is better that Itsuka Tenma no Kuro-Usagi but we will see.
 
Oct 11, 2011 5:18 PM

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Probably the first time I'm going to give up understanding what the show is about and just watch it for the characters doing silly things.
 
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There may have been a lot of information presented but the sub was so bad and disjointed it was incredibly hard to follow. It feels like there could be a story hook buried somewhere here (the forced sex change, the confession to a dead girl, whatever mayhem the "fireworks" will bring--in fact there could be so many hooks they get in each other's way) but it is awfully difficult to puzzle it out. Sometimes more is not better, it's just more. If there isn't a bit of clarity, a coherent story line, and some identifiable attractive lead characters by next episode this will probably be dropped early.
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Oct 11, 2011 7:17 PM

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I'm sorry to say this, but only a 'tard' could enjoy this. It doesn't make sense. Form episode 1 to episode 2 had no relevance to each other whatsoever!!! I want to drop this SO badly. It hurts. This is gonna be a long series. Not looking forward to the next!
 
Oct 11, 2011 8:00 PM

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ugh info dump episode so confused
 
 
Oct 11, 2011 9:15 PM
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Fleiya said:
so whos the girl is he actually gooing to confess to??


Holy shit pay attention...
 
Oct 11, 2011 9:21 PM

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This show is just terrible...dropped
 
Oct 11, 2011 9:31 PM

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Not really sure what to think of this. There's just so much shit happening all at once and a bunch of characters just being thrown around.
 
Oct 11, 2011 9:33 PM

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Thanks to MorningGlory, that was a really good way to put things.

I have to agree with many people here, the show is doing a terrible job introducing the plot. It goes really slow and then it just throws information at you. I guess its target is people who have already read the novels, since without any kind of background it takes a lot of extra reading to comprehend what is going on.

Anyways to soon to drop it and hopefully it will get better ^^
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Oct 11, 2011 9:51 PM

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My favorite girl Futayo shows up.
 
 
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A stupid, chaotic mess. I'm dropping this show and being thankful I don't have any sort of minimum episode requirement for leaving a show in the dustbin. Pity, as this was one of the shows I was most looking forward to because of the world setting.

The wall of exposition was not only boring but so horridly translated all I could make out was that the inhabitants of some country banished everyone from all other countries to another dimension, and then the two dimensions merged back together and destroyed most of both. Which I guess is why everyone now lives in spaceships in the sky. Again, a nice idea but gods I hate the execution.

2/5, dropped with 4/10.
 
Oct 11, 2011 9:57 PM

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I'll be honest, the fact that I think this show is so bad makes me want to watch it even more
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Oct 11, 2011 10:45 PM
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I'm appalled at the sheer number of people who give up so easily at a series that forces the viewer to use their heads a little.
 
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FABULOUS
 
 
Oct 12, 2011 2:07 AM

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this show has a pretty interesting backstory and cast which is what keeps me going, but like everyone said the plot is horribly explained, but after reading around i finally get (i think) wtf is happening. i'll keep going til the end with this show unless there is some gawd awful thing that happens.
 
Oct 12, 2011 2:09 AM

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Still have no Clue whats going on But i'm still enjoying it more then i thought i would,but just to make sure this series in the LN was pretty Deep with story but so far we've only been given Alot of comedy and fanservice right?

PS really enjoying the characters haven't seen a sister like that before that engurage her bother to fondle other girls boobs instead of wacking the hell out of him.
 
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The rating for this Anime is almost as worst as hentai...
I think I chosen the most unpopular Anime as my favorite for this season orz.
Well, who cares .nice background story, nice character, nice plot,nice drama&amp;comedy, (i don't really like history and politic but that is just a small matter).I can't find a better Anime than this in this season .
 
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