| because anonymity is a drug that people cannot stop sniffing so that they can say whatever they want Angelus_Lovell said: What is LOHG? is that anime or maybe a genre? Legend of the Galactic Heroes, it's an anime |
| Good question. Watching spaceships throwing rays at each other with elementary school child level strategies and tactics is anything but smart. |
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Theo1899 said: This is what happens when you base your identity on the crap you like. It's a good thing I don't show the fact that I like femboys. |
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Haneken2086 said: Is it though? The way I see it, Yang Wen-li is the clear protagonist of the series that makes everyone on the Galactic Empire side look like stereotypical one-dimensional villains that get easily outplayed if it weren't for their vast resources. And it's not surprising, considering the space epic is commonly an analogy of democracy or a revolution against an oppressive regime (e.g. Star Wars, et. al.). There's clearly no interest in seeing the perspective of fascists, unless their roles flip later on in the timeline or something.LOGH may not be for everyone, but it is objectively an incredibly well-written tale about a space war seen from both sides of the conflict, and the 80s anime adaptation boasts some great scenes for its age. |
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| It is common for people to assume that people who don't like the anime they thought were smart and clever are simply too dumb to understand it. It's an easy way to dismiss other opinions while still feeling superior. I've seen people do this with even the most basic of anime like Hunter x Hunter and Boku no Hero Academia. The truth is that any anime that would go above the heads of a significant portion of the community would not have a good reputation to begin with. |
| LotGH is a vanilla space Bildungsroman told for two main characters in parallel. It's long and has many characters, but one doesn't need to be overly smart to get it. Story telling is linear, strategies and motives are fully explained (sometimes overexplained even), and there's no symbolism or allegorical component which needed interpretation. Thus: the show requires readiness for adult themes such as politics and social justice, but the presentation needs no brain to follow the story. A good memory to deal with the plentora of side characters is a plus. |
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Mugiwara_Luffyy said: >why do they believe in such things? bcs they are dumb enough to not realise that it is dumb. actually it's a meme that watching logh make you smart. many people don't even watch it.... and just add in their favourite to look smart. if i remember correctly, """Legend of the Gaalctic Heroes ruined anime for me""" is meme by gigguk or trash taste, from then it has became quite popular in anime community Nemo_Niemand said: this. i want to add fate fans too, especially nasu's boot-lickers.Some people believe watching Monogatari makes them smart. Can you believe it? I know it's not the topic of the thread, but were have you seen these Fate fans that believe are smart because they like Fate? I have been in multiple subreddits, wikis, etc and have never seen anyone that likes Fate call themselves "smart" for liking it. |
| Because watching boring germans in space talking about actual politics is something that will alienate most audiences, specially because it is old and long, so you can just pull the "you didn't get it" without even needing to get it yourself. |
Ionliosite2 said: To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆IllyaMugiwara_Luffyy said: >why do they believe in such things? bcs they are dumb enough to not realise that it is dumb. actually it's a meme that watching logh make you smart. many people don't even watch it.... and just add in their favourite to look smart. if i remember correctly, """Legend of the Gaalctic Heroes ruined anime for me""" is meme by gigguk or trash taste, from then it has became quite popular in anime community this. i want to add fate fans too, especially nasu's boot-lickers. I know it's not the topic of the thread, but were have you seen these Fate fans that believe are smart because they like Fate? I have been in multiple subreddits, wikis, etc and have never seen anyone that likes Fate call themselves "smart" for liking it. |
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Ionliosite2 said: I know it's not the topic of the thread, but were have you seen these Fate fans that believe are smart because they like Fate? I have been in multiple subreddits, wikis, etc and have never seen anyone that likes Fate call themselves "smart" for liking it. I can tell you that. He hasn't. The reason that all these other people have magically seen the elitist boogeyman, and you haven't, is because they are all lying through their teeth to stick an image, and you are a normal human being. No, no fan of Fate has ever made that claim. Though unfortunately for Fate fans, it's doomed to be lumped in with this shit anyway because Nasu is a good writer. |
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| Favourites - LoGH, Ping Pong, Evangelion, Tenshi no Tamago, Ashita no Joe. Mean Score: 3 or 4 We have all seen one or two random users in this site with this very description or favourites. |
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| I don't think that's the case at large. There'll always be people who tie themselves with certain works , they like the idea of being seen as one who can appreciate an ''elevated work''. LOGH is amazing , so it's understandable that some elitism appears within the fanbase , no big deal |
DoisacChopper said: To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆Illya ZechTearz said: Dude, look at the poster right above you LOL. I think the real reason is that you two are abjectly blind.Ionliosite2 said: I know it's not the topic of the thread, but were have you seen these Fate fans that believe are smart because they like Fate? I have been in multiple subreddits, wikis, etc and have never seen anyone that likes Fate call themselves "smart" for liking it. I can tell you that. He hasn't. The reason that all these other people have magically seen the elitist boogeyman, and you haven't, is because they are all lying through their teeth to stick an image, and you are a normal human being. No, no fan of Fate has ever made that claim. |
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katsucats said: DoisacChopper said: To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆Illya ZechTearz said: Dude, look at the poster right above you LOL. I think the real reason is that you two are abjectly blind.I can tell you that. He hasn't. The reason that all these other people have magically seen the elitist boogeyman, and you haven't, is because they are all lying through their teeth to stick an image, and you are a normal human being. No, no fan of Fate has ever made that claim. Whatever, fuck it, I'll bite. This is the dumbest thing anyone has ever said in reply to me on the internet in my entire life. |
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ZechTearz said: Because it's so dumb to point out the fact that you failed to read the post above you before making your little rant... I guess you just don't have the high IQ needed to understand the show you're fanboying for then.katsucats said: Dude, look at the poster right above you LOL. I think the real reason is that you two are abjectly blind. Whatever, fuck it, I'll bite. This is the dumbest thing anyone has ever said in reply to me on the internet in my entire life. |
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Ionliosite2 said: here on mal and many times on /a/.but were have you seen these Fate fans that believe are smart because they like Fate? DoisacChopper said: Ionliosite2 said: To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆IllyaI know it's not the topic of the thread, but were have you seen these Fate fans that believe are smart because they like Fate? I have been in multiple subreddits, wikis, etc and have never seen anyone that likes Fate call themselves "smart" for liking it. katsucats said: sorry, if you all are being sarcastic, but some fate fans unironically believe that "you must very high iq to understand it" . i am not going to link all those post or @/users, so i am simply leaving this link to give you brief idea regarding it... DoisacChopper said: To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆Illya ZechTearz said: Dude, look at the poster right above you LOL. I think the real reason is that you two are abjectly blind.I can tell you that. He hasn't. The reason that all these other people have magically seen the elitist boogeyman, and you haven't, is because they are all lying through their teeth to stick an image, and you are a normal human being. No, no fan of Fate has ever made that claim. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1918279&show=90#msg63622061 To actually understand Shiro Emiya requires you to research Sigmund Freud and Jacques Derrida, which you would then use your intelligence to put Psychoanalysis and the concept of deconstruction philosphy into one. MAL users are just not smart enough for that. |
Mugiwara_LuffyyJan 9, 2023 1:22 AM
| i can only speak for my experience, LOGH episode discussions were fun an it had chill people, hell even the remake episode discussion were full of people that were enjoying it instead of complaining about the new artstyle we all did hate the Golden Wings movie though |
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ani147 said: idk what op fans you have met because the ones i did do attack you for not reading "goda"'s manga lol.Because they, similarly to One Piece fans, have the time and patience to invest into a long, slow and old anime maybe. The difference is, OP fans do not throw it down your troat and think that liking it makes them better than anyone else, while in real life they're probably stuck up and can't make a conversation for their life... But hey, that's just a theory :3 anyway i guess bc its not kinda popular with today's western base the few who did watch GED/LoGH start thinking things like "oh the others dont watch it because theyre tasteless and immature etc" to praise themselves and not care about it being much loved? idk |
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| You should ask that troll That Anime Snob here on MAL ( @ThatAnimeSnobRe ) He has a whole Youtube channel shiting on modern anime & manga. |
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Tsunamii_ said: What is LOGH btw ????????????????? Legend of the galactic heros A old OVA that would be way better as a yaoi.  |
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| I don't really know if people are like that, don't really know why anyone would think themselves to be smart for having seen it either. I mean they even take the trouble of explaining things for the viewer, you just have to pay attention while watching and try to remember who anyone is, much like watching a historical documentary really. I mean the narrator basically does most of the heavy lifting for you. |
kyonkyonkun said: Exactly. I should note that besides Re:Zero and JJK fans, I've gotten the most irrational rants from One Piece fans saying I'd never understand how deep it is, how sad all the backstories are, how all the characters are the epitome of adulthood, and why all the NPC children with sappy backstories make One Piece a Master Piece, etc. I've counted half a dozen people messaging me randomly with tear-filled rants. I had to turn my wall to private because of these people.ani147 said: idk what op fans you have met because the ones i did do attack you for not reading "goda"'s manga lol.Because they, similarly to One Piece fans, have the time and patience to invest into a long, slow and old anime maybe. The difference is, OP fans do not throw it down your troat and think that liking it makes them better than anyone else, while in real life they're probably stuck up and can't make a conversation for their life... But hey, that's just a theory :3 |
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katsucats said: eeeh isnt there a way to block ppl there? :0 strangekyonkyonkun said: Exactly. I should note that besides Re:Zero and JJK fans, I've gotten the most irrational rants from One Piece fans saying I'd never understand how deep it is, how sad all the backstories are, how all the characters are the epitome of adulthood, and why all the NPC children with sappy backstories make One Piece a Master Piece, etc. I've counted half a dozen people messaging me randomly with tear-filled rants. I had to turn my wall to private because of these people.idk what op fans you have met because the ones i did do attack you for not reading "goda"'s manga lol. |
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| Isn't that with all "big brain" series? Evangelion, LOGH, Steins;Gate? |
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CyberLucy said: It's objectively a fact that watching LOGH adds braincells.So i was scrolling through the forum and i came across a thread where people were calling those who dont like LOHG are idiots, and they failed to comprehend it. This is not the first time when i read something like that. I often come across such discussion regarding LOGH on MAL, twitter or anywhere else, where people are label as "dumb" or "having bad taste" for not liking logh. Has anyone else noticed this? what do you think, why do they believe in such things? |
| That people never read Politics by Aristotle or any Greco-Roman war/politics/history related book neither post middle ages books of that type (Leviathan, Social Contract, The Spirit of the Laws, etc), so when they see a decent use of political concepts in an anime, they think the anime is a masterpiece just because of that but isn't even close to it, also the use of classical music in the OST helps to increase that misleaded opinion. Anyways LotGH will never come even close to things like Romance of the Three Kingdoms, The Bible, The Iliad, Njals Saga, Muqqadimahs though for an anime it is definitely an above average work. |
Catalano said: This was my reason for dropping it. I thought the point of this show was to be smart, yet I felt dumber watching it. One might as well watch Code Geass instead.I don't know, I watched the show and it was bad, the conflicts and the politics make no sense, it's stupid and full of plot holes -Xenophon- said: Then why do anime adaptations of those works have lower scores? Serious question.Anyways LotGH will never come even close to things like Romance of the Three Kingdoms, The Bible, The Iliad, Njals Saga, Muqqadimahs though for an anime it is definitely an above average work. https://myanimelist.net/anime/970/Yokoyama_Mitsuteru_Sangokushi https://myanimelist.net/anime/2282/Tezuka_Osamu_no_Kyuuyaku_Seisho_Monogatari__In_the_Beginning |
LucifrostJan 9, 2023 8:30 PM
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Lucifrost said: Catalano said: This was my reason for dropping it. I thought the point of this show was to be smart, yet I felt dumber watching it. One might as well watch Code Geass instead.I don't know, I watched the show and it was bad, the conflicts and the politics make no sense, it's stupid and full of plot holes -Xenophon- said: Then why do anime adaptations of those works have lower scores? Serious question.Anyways LotGH will never come even close to things like Romance of the Three Kingdoms, The Bible, The Iliad, Njals Saga, Muqqadimahs though for an anime it is definitely an above average work. https://myanimelist.net/anime/970/Yokoyama_Mitsuteru_Sangokushi https://myanimelist.net/anime/2282/Tezuka_Osamu_no_Kyuuyaku_Seisho_Monogatari__In_the_Beginning Isn't even only anime adaptations, most of any kind of adaptation from those books weren't remarkable, in general they are too complex, boring, unappealing, dense, intricated that they would only work in the book format, any other kind of adaptation would 99.9% of the time fail to reach the levels of the original. I checked that Bible adaptation and it's oriented to children while the original source of the adaptation (Genesis and Exodus) isn't exactly family friendly and excesively complex for childrens to understand, so already the rating of the adaptation is compromised. In the case of LotGH, it happens that the original material fits very well into being adapted to anime (that speaks for itself) and yet you will find people who will say that the original source is better. |
-Xenophon- said: you mean "The Bible" as in THE Bible?That people never read Politics by Aristotle or any Greco-Roman war/politics/history related book neither post middle ages books of that type (Leviathan, Social Contract, The Spirit of the Laws, etc), so when they see a decent use of political concepts in an anime, they think the anime is a masterpiece just because of that but isn't even close to it, also the use of classical music in the OST helps to increase that misleaded opinion. Anyways LotGH will never come even close to things like Romance of the Three Kingdoms, The Bible |
TRC_Randy said: -Xenophon- said: you mean "The Bible" as in THE Bible?That people never read Politics by Aristotle or any Greco-Roman war/politics/history related book neither post middle ages books of that type (Leviathan, Social Contract, The Spirit of the Laws, etc), so when they see a decent use of political concepts in an anime, they think the anime is a masterpiece just because of that but isn't even close to it, also the use of classical music in the OST helps to increase that misleaded opinion. Anyways LotGH will never come even close to things like Romance of the Three Kingdoms, The Bible Old Testament specifically to be more precise but yes, I am atheist btw, I don't believe in God nor UFO, Ghost, Karma, Demons, the Soul and Spirit or any of that hippie sh*t. |
-Xenophon- said: oh. Why do you think it's a great work (or at least better than lotgh)?TRC_Randy said: you mean "The Bible" as in THE Bible? Old Testament specifically to be more precise but yes, I am atheist btw, I don't believe in God nor UFO, Ghost, Karma, Demons, the Soul and Spirit or any of that hippie sh*t. |
| I find the argument that is you didn't like an anime in general then you are labeled as dumb. Smart people can not like intelligently written stories because there is this key thing and it's called entertainment. So what am I stupid for not liking something that is well written but fails to entertain me. Well then what's the point there were plenty of moments I was bored out of my mind watching Monster I wouldn't call me or any other that feels the same way stupid. As for LOGH I have no desire to watch nor care too. |
TRC_Randy said: -Xenophon- said: oh. Why do you think it's a great work (or at least better than lotgh)?Old Testament specifically to be more precise but yes, I am atheist btw, I don't believe in God nor UFO, Ghost, Karma, Demons, the Soul and Spirit or any of that hippie sh*t. The combination of historical elements plus mythology, symbolism, philosophy and judicial/law status. I remember when I was a kid, I took Adam and Eve story as snakes are looked in bad ways since old times and humans like to deceive their faults to other animals/people, then latter I read an interpretation saying that the snake represented sexual desire and that fits very well also but isn't neither a perfect interpretation, tons of stories in the book have multiple meanings just like that, I wouldn't lie to you and say I understand them all. I also liked the prose, I would love being able to talk like that. Reading it also helps you to foresee tons of classic and modern stories influenced by the book (that's if you are able to remember all the characters and names), while also understanding the references made by the authors. |
-Xenophon- said: Someone on this site recently complained about people who don't watch influential anime, but he showed no concern when I pointed out they don't read the Bible either.Reading it also helps you to foresee tons of classic and modern stories influenced by the book (that's if you are able to remember all the characters and names), while also understanding the references made by the authors. |
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| @katsucats Going in blind, I hope we Lydian enjoyers are the highest IQ people out there. I've got a thing for Lydian b7 and the IVth degree of minor harmonic too, but I guess they don't go that far. *insert monocle emoji here* edit: skimmed through the second one, it's like "people who enjoy minor chords and tonalities are more introspective than others" minor chords and tonalities: Everywhere in approximately every style except major blues and the Ramones. edit2: lmao I'm not trusting that one about music genres. Maybe it's me being a science denier, but I find it very interesting how it lumps all the black music together at the bottom of the chart. You can't tell me anyone with two neurons firing up would prefer Coldplay to Coltrane (((^: |
DeathkoJan 10, 2023 10:20 AM
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| Cuz LOGH fandom is the face of elitist fandom along with other elitist mainstream old anime fandoms like Cowboy Bebop and Eva. I read they were complaining a lot once since 2018 due to the remake modern designs (either look younger, how is that a issue? or a more faithful adaptation). Ironically, the remake made LOGH a bit more popular since its more friendly to new anime fans. The funny part the LOGH fandom are OVA elitists rather than source elitists, the new adaptation is more faithful to the original source than the OVA. I remember they were making a big fuss about any remake decision different than the OVA no matter if the OVA decision was even anime-original or it was just a different character interpretation. That's why I avoid anime fandom at all costs especially if its from an old anime. |
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| As a certified NGE fan, I laugh softly and sip tea in the shadows everytime someone mentions it with tears of frustration in his voice. And let me tell you, after nearly a decade here, I'm seriously addicted to tea. The irony is that actual NGE fans love you all, even with your insecurities and random hatred UwU |
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TRC_Randy said: i found that funny, i ead the Bible a few years ago an its a chore of a book, the Book of Numbers in particular is among the most boring things you can possibly find-Xenophon- said: oh. Why do you think it's a great work (or at least better than lotgh)?i found that funny Old Testament specifically to be more precise but yes, I am atheist btw, I don't believe in God nor UFO, Ghost, Karma, Demons, the Soul and Spirit or any of that hippie sh*t. still never thought that someone d want to compare LOGH to the Bible |
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| I screenshotted this literally just yesterday cuz the signature is hilarious but true. LOGH fans are nowhere as annoying as pretentious Evangelion fans who believe they're superior cause they understand the entire lore [font="\"Proxima Nova Regular\", \"Helvetica Neue\", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"]  [/font] |
Old_School_Akira said: A old OVA that would be way better as a yaoi. I heard it has so many bromance scenes and homoerotic elements, so in a way it wouldn't be wrong to call it as soft yaoi. Not gonna lie, I'd watch it if it was more yaoi-centered. It could be more entertaining than edgy drama about space war, in my opinion. At least that's what I heard about LotGH's plot. |
AdnashJan 10, 2023 4:37 PM
| LOGH's fanbase is still alive, imagine that. I figured that last season that came out, a year or so ago wouldn't amount to much. But apparently it's fans are still squirming heh. Don't think to deeply about it, a toxic fanbase here and there are a given. They just want to get attention drawn to them, so that they can believe they're opinion matters. It's the case for all fanbases of that nature. |
| Is LoGH smart? Yes. Im not trying to be an *sshole here. Yes, I think its smart. Most of the time. Are you an idiot if you dont like LoGH? Enjoying smart stuff isnt necesarilly linked to being smart. So NOPE. But theres a detail here: LoGH has to do more with endurance. LoGH has bricks of text and the direction is too damn rigid. The only way you can enjoy such a tiring experience is if you are actually captivated by the characters and have fun with the the politic conspiracy since the beginning. Anyway, If you end up disliking it after watching some of it, thats ok, but no one should avoid an anime just because some of the fanbase is annoying. |
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| It is a genuinely sophisticated show and it's got an elegant, regal aesthetic which emphasizes that. But yeah, watching a smart show doesn't make you smart. Just look at the most vocal fan of the show online, for example. He's a 40-something permavirgin with the maturity and self-awareness of a teenage /a/ lurker who spends all of his time chasing clout and picking fights with teenage shounen fans. So no, liking LoGH doesn't automatically make you smart despite it being one of anime's crown jewels. |
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| Because people are elitists they feel better/more important by belitteling others. I have no problem when someone likes it, after all everyone has different taste but for me it's a boring unwatchable show. |
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