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Dec 14, 2008 12:49 AM
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1 more episode to go.. Gilgamesh's sword looks kinda cool.

Jan 24, 2009 6:51 PM
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It's a shame that the "final battle" seems extremely talky and tame compared to the awesomeness of Archer vs Berserker. Hopefully the last episode is a good one.
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Feb 5, 2009 1:25 PM
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dun dun dun
yeah, but they did seem to sort of drag out this final battle.
May 3, 2009 7:31 AM
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Silverhammer said:
It's a shame that the "final battle" seems extremely talky and tame compared to the awesomeness of Archer vs Berserker. Hopefully the last episode is a good one.


Yea Archer vs Berserker was the best. We need shirou to use the Unlimited Blade Works.

Did Rin die? I hope not, shes one of my favourites =(
Jul 5, 2009 11:39 PM
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halberdiers said:
Silverhammer said:
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Did Rin die? I hope not, shes one of my favourites =(


I don't think so, or just like you, I hope she didn't.
Jul 15, 2009 1:17 PM
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A depressing ending as I thought..

Aug 15, 2009 5:15 AM
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It's looking like comback city for Saber.
Oct 1, 2009 7:54 AM
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Looks like the ending is gonna be an anti-climax...
Oct 4, 2009 4:55 PM
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Lulz! The quote heard round the world! Oh, Shirou, stating the obvious as always

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Ow. My Heart. <3
Oct 7, 2009 10:14 PM

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Funny if screenshotted, not funny if you actually heard what he said before and after that line IMO.
Nov 22, 2009 10:02 PM

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Lol, as soon as I saw that scene I felt extreme deja vu! No wonder cause it's in every anime motivational poster!

But it actually works within the context of the scene.


Dec 1, 2009 6:54 PM

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brinan said:
Funny if screenshotted, not funny if you actually heard what he said before and after that line IMO.


This, I was surprised how much it made sense within context of the scene. I really hope Rin didn't die. But, Kirie saying Shirou is the last surviving master worries me.
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Dec 3, 2009 12:02 PM

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Selkaine said:

Lulz! The quote heard round the world! Oh, Shirou, stating the obvious as always


Genius,when I saw the place where they are,I have a strange deja-vu...no wonder it's in every motivator. XD
Jan 2, 2010 2:34 PM

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Kingwel said:
Selkaine said:

Lulz! The quote heard round the world! Oh, Shirou, stating the obvious as always


Genius,when I saw the place where they are,I have a strange deja-vu...no wonder it's in every motivator. XD
lmao!!
i seen this quote alot and now that i see which episode it started from.......nm
Jan 11, 2010 10:42 PM

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Definitely a tamed episode.... It was decent... not the best, not my cup of coffee but definitely a good one... Why? Well because it is simple the one before the last one!!! XD Adn the chat between Gilgamesh and Saber was good... I loved what Gilgamesh actually said.... Yes he is twisted and evil and all... but he is actually an egocentric prick... His worst trait imo.... He still wants Saber although she has clearly stated she doesn't want anything to do with him.... I hate that annoying guy... Well at least things dun look that bad

Yes Shirou was caught by the evil Curse of the Holy Grail, but I feel that he isn't dead.... not because Saber has said so... but because I feel he still has the Scabbard of Excalibur within him... or at least a part of it.... So then... how could you explain that Saber hasn't used it so far against Gilgamesh.... Yesh I know it doesn't have ay offensive properties, but in my POV she should have used it by now... just to keep herself on her feet... There is something wrong in these fights....

Kotomine you bastard... he is such a bastard... I wanna kill that fucker.... Really he is the worst... Saying that he loves humans.... yeah right... You love them so much that you actually wanna destroy their lives!!!! Go to Hell Frucker!

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Jan 24, 2010 5:07 AM

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Hmm i still wanna work out the connection between archer and emiya T_T..i wish archer hadn't died...Gilgamesh is actually so overpowered, im suprised he doesnt just kill them then and there...i mean he clicked his fingers and emiya almost died =.=
Feb 20, 2010 3:32 AM

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I wonder who's going to be the one to save the day...I also hope Tohsaka didn't die.
May 19, 2010 2:16 PM
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Ah, so the legendary " People die if they are killed" finally shows up. It actually makes sense if you watched the particular scene, but it can be easily taken out of context...
Sep 25, 2010 1:20 AM
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LoL at the "People die if they are killed". It does make sense.

I don't know if I'm the only one but I really enjoyed the fight between Saber and Gilgamesh. The talking was actually nice so I have no problem with that. The guy is just so damn arrogant, annoying, eccentric and seriously overpowered...

I don't think Rin died. I mean, she's in the preview in a "non-flashback" scene or so it seems.

I'm just sad I'm almost finished watching. Just one more episode... I've loved everything up until now that I don't want it to end.
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There is no way Saber and Shirou can win this, though chances are they will and the show will have a horrible nonsense ending.


Dec 28, 2010 1:11 PM

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Ah finally, Shirou's famous line shows up. I was wondering when that was gonna happen. Surprisingly, given the context, it does make perfect sense ^^

It sucks that Saber vs. Gilgamesh only had like 1 or 2 nicely animated portions--on top of that it has WAY too much talking from Gilgamesh. This guy is one annoying, twisted fuck. Saber better kick his ass in the most awesome way possible. As of right now Archer vs. Berserker is still the best fight in the show.

I really hope Rin doesn't die and that a proper conclusion is given regarding Shirou and Saber. But something tells me that the ending is gonna be BS -__-
Nov 15, 2011 11:11 AM

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Once again, I hate Deen for fucking up one of my favorite battles in the VN. Seriously, the battle between Saber and Gilgamesh is freaking sweet in the source material. Let's see how they handle the end of the battle. It won't be well done, i'm sure.
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"I've had quite some time to think about this...about what I would do if you refuse this curse...how I'd pin you down and force you to swallow it. I'd shove so much down your throat you'd look pregnant. Unable to endure, you'd break down and grovel at my feet. I've longed to see that defiled look on your face!"

Are we still talking about a curse here? Because for just a minute, it sounded like Gilgamesh was rehearsing for a porn flick...
Jun 18, 2012 9:23 PM

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Kotomine you bastard! How dare you hurt my girl Rin like that! She better not be dead!
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Jun 30, 2012 9:40 AM

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I really hope Rin isnt dead :'( !!!!!!

I wonder how Ilya will make it out of this.

Shiro and Saber seem to be at a complete disadvantage but hey they are the main characters they obviously are going to become victorious. Probably by some non probable way but who knows.

I really hate how the creators made Gilgamesh so overpowered. I hate when people make the bad guy unbelievably godlike, its not fair nor is it realistic for normal humans or other lower class people to be able to defeat him.

Whatever happens im excited to see how this series will end. One last episode!
Oct 5, 2012 6:39 PM

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brinan said:
Funny if screenshotted, not funny if you actually heard what he said before and after that line IMO.

true dat
Oct 5, 2012 7:06 PM
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Villetta_Nu said:
"I've had quite some time to think about this...about what I would do if you refuse this curse...how I'd pin you down and force you to swallow it. I'd shove so much down your throat you'd look pregnant. Unable to endure, you'd break down and grovel at my feet. I've longed to see that defiled look on your face!"

Are we still talking about a curse here? Because for just a minute, it sounded like Gilgamesh was rehearsing for a porn flick...
Well, it IS a bunch of goo that spills from a cup. He will just make her drink a bunch of black goo (aka black semen).

Dec 5, 2012 2:51 PM

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Go Saber! Next is the climax of the whole story I wonder how they'll bring it to the viewer, lets hope that it will end with an epic battle! Up to the final episode!
Jan 27, 2013 2:01 PM
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I didn't understand the part about "destroying your own country".
Jan 27, 2013 2:35 PM

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I didn't understand the part about "destroying your own country".


It is implied that in Nasuverse, Gilgamesh's arrogance and greed brought about the downfall of his own kingdom.
Feb 6, 2013 10:05 AM

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"People die when they are killed" is just a bad fansubbing.
Feb 27, 2013 6:17 PM

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Oh they really didn't tap into the whole Rin/Kirei story. This felt dragged out a bit but still good. Let's hope they finally get their asses kicked.
Mar 5, 2013 12:30 PM

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I don't really see a way for Saber and Shirou to win.

Apr 12, 2013 1:17 PM

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Volt1993 said:
"People die when they are killed" is just a bad fansubbing.


This seems to be the case, regardless of whether or not it was just meant to be a joke. In the Geneon Entertainment/Funimation Entertainment version it's "If people are badly injured, they die," and I think there's only a slight chance they they altered the straight translation.

On an unrelated note, the blood formations have almost been a work of art in this series.
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PreFuturism-0 said:
Volt1993 said:
"People die when they are killed" is just a bad fansubbing.


This seems to be the case, regardless of whether or not it was just meant to be a joke. In the Geneon Entertainment/Funimation Entertainment version it's "If people are badly injured, they die. That's how it should be," and I think there's only a slight chance they they altered the straight translation.

On an unrelated note, the blood formations have almost been a work of art in this series.

But Shirou did die before and lived although unrelated to Avalon.And injuries like the one from Berserker are instant kill for the Servant-like Shirou(Heaven's Feel spoiler),just imagine what it is for the normal one, so thank God for Avalon.It isnt bad fansubbing.
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First of all I trimmed the quote I took from the DVD as it wasn't equivalent to the fansub one.

Okay ssjokg, you made a good point. I didn't think about the [grand voice] POOWWEERRSS OOOOF AAAAAVVAAALLOONNN...AVALON! [/grandvoice][/professional wrestling reference]. I think the problem I--along with many other people--have with the line is that Shirou comes across as stupid with saying that line and that isn't the case, it's just how the fansubbers have portrayed him. The line "People die when they are killed," actually makes more sense than "If people are badly injured, they die." as there are many cases where badly injured people live so the translator has overgeneralised there. However nothing else appears with the former line onscreen and so viewers will naturally latch on to it and question it. I think what the fansubbers should have done is connect the next sentence, "That's how it should be," to it (to form "People die when they are killed, that's how it should be") and so it clarifies--more immediately--what Shirou is thinking.

The following has been edited as ssjokg showed me in his reply below that my sloppy writing was leading to misunderstandings: I know this is a petty issue but Shirou gets a lot of undeserved hate. Gilgamesh is the real discriminatory one for example.
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PreFuturism-0 said:

I know this is a petty issue but Shirou gets a lot of undeserved hate.

Believe me when I say that people dont hate Shirou(of the anime) because of that line.
Apr 18, 2013 7:08 AM
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Shirou gets hate because the anime didnt portray him properly , the way Shirou thinks. In the original source material, we get to see Shirou's monologue and thus we are given explanations and Shirou's viewpoint on it. As far as I have seen, Anime Shirou gets hate because of these 3 points-
1. Stupid. 2. Sexist. 3. People die if they are killed( a little less)
The VN Shirou... is a badass though..
Apr 21, 2013 7:39 AM

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I hope that Rin doesn't die; she started off being a bitch but I've grown to like her a great deal.

I hope that the last episode goes out with a bang and not a whimper, although judging from the prelims it feels that way.
Jun 13, 2013 10:11 PM

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that bastard kirei trying to kill rin.. I'm relief when shirou and saber are arrived home fast.. :3

btw final fight now.. damn its cool.. especially when kirei throwing those angra manyu :3

1 episode to goo
Sep 8, 2013 9:04 AM

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Finally some episode they did right! I just hope they end it well too.
Sep 20, 2013 6:52 PM
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Did Rin die?
I'm assuming she did because people die when they are killed.
Sep 20, 2013 7:30 PM
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Did Rin die?
I'm assuming she did because people die when they are killed.

Nope.


Yeah, I finished the anime and found that out XD
May 18, 2014 8:31 AM
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well 1 more episode to go and things are heating up.
Aug 25, 2014 7:43 AM

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First aid to a heavily wounded person by sword:

Wipe the blood on her cheeks, so that in case she dies, she dies beautifully.
Feb 25, 2015 2:53 PM

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There's only one thing to say after this episode:
"People die if they get killed"
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The Classic Dialogue ~ . Last battle !!
The Chosen Epoch . The Holy Grail Completion .
VERY GREAT EPISODE . "A King before a Woman."
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This bastard injured Tsunderin and abducted Lolisviel. Unforgivable.

So, Mother Saber handles Gigadouche and Shirou goes after Komine.

The upcoming fights seem to be promising.

Hopefully, Mother Saber and Shirou can stop the holy grail without causing another catastrophe.
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Penultimate episode and I have not the slightest idea about the villain's goal/motivations. Talking about Father Kotomine here. Gilgamesh is no problem, being as plain as can be (with that and his design, I can't understand how he can be perceived as cool).
@CodeBlazeFate Is this gloomy christian supposed to be nothing more than a mad man? I know this isn't some deep work but to go through a story who happens only "just because" is rather disappointing. What a bad joke if this is the case.

The dying Tôsaka scene was a real joke. If it wasn't supposed to be sad, then it's a success (between the actions and some lines).

What was this thing about Arturia being "send back to her time"?? They kept saying that the Servants were deceased people from the past or present days. Shouldn't she stay "dead" until the next summoning?

2/5, 3 if I just misunderstood the poor priest.


Is this "People die if they are killed" some inside joke? Because the closest thing I met in this episode was something along those lines: when people are severely injured/hurt, they die" (unlike him til now).
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