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Jan 7, 12:06 PM
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Like this is literally an objective scientifically proven fact.
Wikipedia said:
Sturgeon's law (or Sturgeon's revelation) is an adage stating "ninety percent of everything is crap". It was coined by Theodore Sturgeon, an American science fiction author and critic, and was inspired by his observation that, while science fiction was often derided for its low quality by critics, most work in other fields was low-quality too, and so science fiction was no different.

Therefore, 90% of anime is crap. If you're asking me, I'd even say it's a higher percentage like at least 98% of anime is crap.
Anyway, if you didn't already know this undisputed fact, maybe you should watch moar anime, and if you defy it, tell me your reason for doing so.
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Jan 7, 12:12 PM
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did you just learn this common scientific word right now?

anyway sturgeons law is a rule of thumb and not an actual strict rule and its more about "90% of anime are shows that i ignore or do not care about rather than actual hate"
Jan 7, 12:20 PM
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"ninety percent of everything is crap".

Indeed. Anime, movies, TV series, music, etc.

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Jan 7, 12:25 PM
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Definitely not as much as 90%. Looking at last seasons shows, out of around 100 airing/continuing anime, about 40-50 of them have a score >7. So there is a lot of shit anime out there, especially nowadays, but its not that bad.
Jan 7, 12:30 PM
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I'd say Sturgeon was far too conservative.
Jan 7, 12:32 PM
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[QUESTION #2]
What is the name of the paradox that the sum of the percentage of crap and the percentage of non-crap exceeds 100% somehow?
Jan 7, 12:34 PM
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I don't see where the objective scientific proof is. Just sounds like an assessment by some random sci-fi author, likely just trying to defend his own work by basically going "yeah, well, 90% of everything is crap, we can't all be in the 10% of authors writing anything worth reading"

The problem with asserting this as a "law" or as any kind of definitive factual statement is that there is very little objectivity in art.
Jan 7, 12:48 PM
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Very nice bait my friend very scientific.
Jan 7, 12:52 PM
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98% of anime are crap and since there are about 27840 anime... 556 anime aren't crap. Yeah, it might be true.
Jan 7, 12:54 PM

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bro just found out about sturgeons law and wants to post about it to feel cute 😭🙏
Jan 7, 12:55 PM

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This is some pseudo science Deg usually provides us with.
It fine dude^^ we already got that kind of guy covered, on MaL :)
Jan 7, 12:57 PM

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True,it goes for other industries as well

Difference is in viewpoint,there are some that are objectively garbage but the predominant number is in the eye of the beholder.Also the more shit you watch the more you get accustomed to it,to the point of numbness.

And then you just have people who are born without taste.
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Jan 7, 1:09 PM
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While I don't necessarily disagree with your premise, calling this an

LenRea said:
objective scientifically proven fact


is a bit too much for me.

Fun(?) Fact: there's a replication crisis in scientific research suggesting that an overwhelming majority of published research results cannot be replicated. In other words, most of what we know as "fact" has never been proven outside of a singular study and may actually have just been a confluence of randomness. (See, I can use big words too!).

In short, Sturgeon's Law could also be subject to Sturgeon's Law, meaning there's a ~90% chance it's crap.
Jan 7, 1:15 PM

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I would replace "90%" with "most" so that it sounds more credible.
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Jan 7, 1:21 PM

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90%'s too much i will say 80% in my opinion
Jan 7, 1:31 PM

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that good to bad ratio applies to pretty much everything, not just anime.
Jan 7, 1:32 PM

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Here's Tirinchas' Law: "The total added quality of anime produced per year is a constant. The more gets made, the lower the average."

(Stolen from the one that says that the total added IQ of the world's population is a constant, regardless of how much the population grows in number.)

Jan 7, 1:38 PM
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Sturgeon’s Law? Sorry, but I don’t believe in such things.
Jan 7, 1:42 PM

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Eh? It's more like 75% of everything rather than 90.
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Jan 7, 1:49 PM
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well I like more than 1 out of every 10 anime so sounds to me like ol Theodore is a fucking idiot
Jan 7, 2:24 PM

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well I like more than 1 out of every 10 anime so sounds to me like ol Theodore is a fucking idiot
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Theodore is a fucking idiot

Woah, no need to be so rude to a random Theodore.
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According to rating in Mal anything which is 6/10 is fine, 5.5-5.9 can be rounded to 6/10. I will use site ratings as that's the easiest way for this.

The very first anime which can't be rounded into "fine" category is in position 12062nd out of all anime. Not only that 5.49 isn't even equal to "shit", cause for that you need to be below 4/10. In myanimelist there are in overall around 27850 anime, 90% of that number is 25065, as said there are at least 12062 which could be defined as fine titles, below 4/10 without rounding up to bring more "shit" titles to maybe help the theory you're fascinated with, there are only 86 titles which you could have called officialy "shit". There are 14088 entries which are not rated, which is even more than all rated titles in this site.

So in overall @LenRea this is a scientific proof that you're wrong. [Also I don't know what science has to do with critics]
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According to rating in Mal anything which is 6/10 is fine, 5.5-5.9 can be rounded to 6/10. I will use site ratings as that's the easiest way for this.

The very first anime which can't be rounded into "fine" category is in position 12062nd out of all anime. Not only that 5.49 isn't even equal to "shit", cause for that you need to be below 4/10. In myanimelist there are in overall around 27850 anime, 90% of that number is 25065, as said there are at least 12062 which could be defined as fine titles, below 4/10 without rounding up to bring more "shit" titles to maybe help the theory you're fascinated with, there are only 86 titles which you could have called officialy "shit". There are 14088 entries which are not rated, which is even more than all rated titles in this site.

So in overall @LenRea this is a scientific proof that you're wrong. [Also I don't know what science has to do with critics]
@Zettaiken What a loser he used mal ratings as the criteria for science. 😂👆
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The problem of sturgeon's law with anime is that anime is made for many demographics. The stuff you consider trash is likely enjoyed by someone else. A lot of low rated anime are actually fun in my experience.
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@Zettaiken What a loser he used mal ratings as the criteria for science. 😂👆
@LenRea Using American critics for any criteria.

If you're so eager than watch all anime, rate them as you aren't rating anything and than prove by yourself that 90% is equal to shit, but you need to watch everything even lost media or not available online. Otherwise you're weak and gay.

Jan 7, 2:44 PM
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"Logic and truth are two very different things, but they often look the same to the mind that's performing the logic."
-- Theodore Sturgeon

Did you know 100% of animes are not Fellini?

If I was you, I would not raise the bar too high, reserving myself the right to have fun.
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Jan 7, 2:52 PM

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On the other hand, people will find 90% of anime pure gold, which in turn make that Sturgeon's law another make-believe under Barnum effect.
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Jan 7, 3:43 PM

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Of course, it is all garbage. Solution? Don't watch it.
Jan 7, 3:55 PM
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Anything rated below a 8.4 is dogshit.
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Ofc it is, that's why i only watch the good 10% (with some exceptions)
Jan 7, 4:13 PM

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so basically just like everything else ever.
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Whole Entertainment is whole Dumb,fun, stupid and full of crap from video game, movies tv series, books and Anime

And why people consumed because is Dumb Fun Stupid and people love crap.

Don't want crap Entertainment then just replace them it full of twilight zone industry so that people convert to lunatic.

Jan 7, 6:22 PM
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Bro was an author not a fucking scientist. It's literally just an iconic phrase not a scientific fact. And even so, who cares?
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Bro was an author not a fucking scientist. It's literally just an iconic phrase not a scientific fact. And even so, who cares?
@Izac_Kak Can we denormalize the term "bro" on the internet?
Jan 7, 6:43 PM

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LenRea said:
Therefore, 90% of anime is crap.
I'd apply Sturgeon's law foremost to MAL forum postings.

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Who the fuck cares about what Sturgeon said, it's literally the worst fish and he wrote crappy scifi. If it was Trout, now we would be talking.

Jan 7, 7:11 PM
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Who the fuck cares about what Sturgeon said, it's literally the worst fish and he wrote crappy scifi. If it was Trout, now we would be talking.

@Satyr_icon Missed opportunity to say "Cheers to anyone who got this carp" lmao
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Not sure if this is supposed to be a controversial or insightful comment...

Even if they've never heard of the name, I thought most people instinctively understood this. At least anyone who dug even a little bit into anime or any other forms of media.

I'm not too upset about this "law." I just take it as a given and don't even think about it a lot of the time.
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You guys do know that 90% of all animays are shit, right?

Lol.
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Sure, Sturgeon's Law might have a point in many fields like medical field, but , when it comes to anime, that rule goes right out the window. We're talking about a world where creativity knows no bounds, and the quality is often off the charts. I mean, have you seen my jaw-dropping waifu in "jujutsu kaisen"? Or the intricate storytelling in "Hyouka"?
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I'm aware. A lot of the ones I've seen are shit. Did you also know that more than half of anime are only 1 episode long? The really atrocious ones never see the light of day, meanwhile you have people who believe that Sword Art Online or Rent a Girlfriend are the worst possible anime because they aren't willing to sift through the real pond scum.

Obviously the 90% rule is a subjective measure. It doesn't mean that the top 2700 anime ranked on MAL are the 10% that are good. There will be anime in that section that you don't like and ones below that you do. I think if you watched a truly random sample of anime entries then being able to call 10% of them "good" would be pretty reasonable. I think for some individuals it might be higher or lower than that, but for your average viewer it would probably be close to 10%.
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something something Aikatsu!
something something drugs
something something you're all poorer than me

Bum-fuck losers the lot of you
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If 90% of my crap is crap, does that mean the rest of the 10% isn't crap? If the 10% isn't crap then what is it...
Jan 7, 11:57 PM
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90% of anime watchers are also retards who rate shit like One Piece or Naruto 10/10
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Scientifically proven my left nut. The only thing I know is shit is Sturgeons Law itself. If I go to 100 random pizza places, they could all be awesome, they could all suck, it could be a 50/50 split, or anything in between.

Now let me dive deeper into this "of everything" part. What if I take this as literally as possible just to make a point of how dumb I think this sounds. Yeah...I'm applying this to actual literal shit. If I take this, and apply it to literal shit, that would mean that 10% of my shit isn't shit. Now I know this likely isn't the intention, but that's how stupid this sounds to me when I give it any amount of thought.

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@Satyr_icon Missed opportunity to say "Cheers to anyone who got this carp" lmao
@Heavenly47 ...aw, pollocks

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Definitely not as much as 90%. Looking at last seasons shows, out of around 100 airing/continuing anime, about 40-50 of them have a score >7. So there is a lot of shit anime out there, especially nowadays, but its not that bad.
@Jhearn16 Objection. lots of 7- anime on MAL are awesome, lots of 8+ anime are shit. Mean score doesn't mean much.
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I could say 90% of all facts on Wikipedia are inaccurate, or 90% of all threads on mal are made by bots. Can you prove me wrong? Same with saying 90% of anything is crap, who can say they have seen 100% or even close to 100% of any medium and therefore be in a position to objectively judge and make this conclusion (also one person's taste would be subjective and their opinion and not an objective fact).

Utter nonsense my dear chap (or chappess), or bot.
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All mainstream media is garbage. Television is bad quality stuff.
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