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Do you actually hate Studio Mappa??
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Nov 28, 2023 7:33 PM
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Welcome back, Dragevard!

And I guess I don't hate them, but I'm not a fan of them either. I don't think they write the anime they make; I think they just animate them and maybe put voices and music in. That being said, MAPPA did do a pretty bad job animating Yuri on Ice, so maybe they are no good. On the other hand, while I did not like Chainsaw Man overall, I thought that it was well-animated, so I guess MAPPA did good there.

But if I'm wrong, and the studio actually does contribute to the writing and story, then I guess I do hate Studio MAPPA. A lot of works from their studio are heavily Westernized works, but I'm not sure if MAPPA is to blame or not for that, or if they just happen to get the Westernized stuff from manga writers.

UPDATE: Just remembered about Studio MAPPA abusing their employees and underpaying them. Guess I do hate them after all.
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Nov 28, 2023 7:54 PM
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nah they're pretty good. but they can improve a lot if they give breaks to their animators and pay them enough. productivity will only increase by doing all that.

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Nov 28, 2023 8:21 PM
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No i don't actually hate studio Mappa.
Nov 28, 2023 8:44 PM
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crappa destroyed chainsaw man adaptation, no reason to like them unlike you, a fake fan who rated it 10/10 but hey, I guess you like censorship and bad cgi
Nov 28, 2023 8:49 PM
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Their last good anime was Idol Incidents
Nov 28, 2023 9:00 PM
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I don't hate their shows, but I do hate how they treat their animators. The abuse that animators at Mappa face is pretty common in the industry, although I am not sure if it is to the extreme that Mappa is. Mappa really needs to improve on how it treats the people who bring these shows to life, and the industry as a whole needs to change. The people making the shows we like shouldn't need to suffer while making them.
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Nov 28, 2023 9:01 PM
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They’ve been corporate sellout losers who only produce battle shounen trash ever since Maruyama left, so I certainly don’t love them.
Nov 28, 2023 9:11 PM
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No, I don't, because I recognize all they did was pick up things no one else wanted to touch and their animation isn't nearly as bad as these whiny fanboys make it sound.
Nov 28, 2023 9:53 PM
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"Do you actually hate Studio Mappa?"

No.
Nov 28, 2023 10:09 PM

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I don’t hate any studio, just certain people who work in the industry.
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Nov 28, 2023 10:23 PM
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just thank the staff of the anime they produce if you got a love and hate with mappa

like thanks chainsaw man staff or thanks jujutsu kaisen team but never thank mappa who deserves the hate

plus majority of the animators working on said anime like chainsaw man and jujutsu kaisen are freelancers anyway so they are not employees of mappa
Nov 28, 2023 10:29 PM

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Depends on what you mean tbh. As an animation studio, no. I don't hate them. Every anime I've seen from them looks great, and I think they did an incredible job at adapting Attack on Titan's ending, which I was already a fan of in the manga. But as a corporation, I hate them as much as I hate any other corporation. The abuse they put their animators through is terrible, but it's no different than what you see from like 90% of the triple A gaming industry. All corporations are inherently evil and driven by greed.
Nov 28, 2023 11:15 PM

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Yeah. The feud goes back centuries when my glorious ancestor Saint Jamal watched an opera adaptation of the passion of the Christ produced by MAPPA that had terrible CG that ruined the scene.
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Nov 28, 2023 11:23 PM

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You're back lol

No, not at all.

As far as big anime studios go, I think mappa is just what you expect. they don't really have a signature style or strength that makes me love the studio as a whole.

To me they are kind of like bones in that regard. All their productions are good, but only one or two of them really stands out to me (mob psycho and space dandy for bones, and jjk and csm for mappa). and even those two are at least partly because of their massive budget.

The only thing that mappa has made that I genuinely hate how they went about it is AOT s4, specially part 1. and not just because of their lack of time and cgi, those were all improved or fixed after part 1, but because I genuinely think isayama's art is nowhere near as good as what wit had replaced it with, and I do not get why they thought changing to the manga art style was a good idea. Other than that, their work has been great, even if they aren't my favourite.
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Nov 28, 2023 11:24 PM

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There are better things to do instead of hating on a studio to which I don't pay a single coin to, the fact i am watching their content for free, that itself is a lot more than one could ask for.
Nov 28, 2023 11:29 PM

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They’ve been corporate sellout losers who only produce battle shounen trash ever since Maruyama left, so I certainly don’t love them.
@El001 Saying only is a bit unfair, they did just recently also make Maboroshi, vinland saga season 2, and Dance Dance Danseur. which were all very well received none battle shounens.

there was also that one cooking isekai.... but like.... it was a cooking isekai so who cares.
Nov 28, 2023 11:33 PM

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crappa destroyed chainsaw man adaptation, no reason to like them unlike you, a fake fan who rated it 10/10 but hey, I guess you like censorship and bad cgi
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a fake fan who rated it 10/10 but hey, I guess you like censorship and bad cgi


I had never heard about censorship of chainsaw man.

The cgi complaint I've heard a lot despite it's use being very limited to begin with, but this one is new. are you talking about the puke? cause that was uncensored for the Blu-ray version
Nov 28, 2023 11:34 PM

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I don’t hate any studio, just certain people who work in the industry.
@Old_School_Akira

I would say that before project 9. their work is the definition of "bland".

And they are the one studio that can turn me off a show just by their name being on it.
Nov 28, 2023 11:45 PM

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I feel Mappa had it coming for a while. The more popular they got and the bigger their anime became it was inevitable that people would start hating on them. Like any studio they have some good anime and and some bad. Would like if they didn't abuse their employees though, sigh.
Nov 28, 2023 11:50 PM

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They only made 1 actually good anime, and that was Idaten, CSM was surprisingly good, but with the caveat of having the worst action in anime I have ever seen, and that includes literal slide shows.
Nov 29, 2023 1:09 AM

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Mappa is my 2nd lowest rated studio (weighted score), but also one of the few studios that managed to make 5 good anime from different franchises.

Hit or miss. btw I can still like what they did with CSM even if an hypothetical adaptation with a more faithful style could have been even better.
Nov 29, 2023 1:16 AM

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I would'nt say hate but I definetly don't like them.

They kinda ruined chainsaw man so yeah.

Also I don't like CGI but that might just be me.

Nov 29, 2023 1:46 AM

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well considering mappa animates every anime no i don't hate them and they have the best animation
Nov 29, 2023 2:33 AM

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No, I hate CSM and it’s not mappa’s fault that its source material is shit.
Nov 29, 2023 2:53 AM

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I dislike them i but would not say that i hate them with passion like some other people do. The only anime from them that i like is Dororo.
Nov 29, 2023 4:28 AM

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I would'nt say hate but I definetly don't like them.

They kinda ruined chainsaw man so yeah.

Also I don't like CGI but that might just be me.
@Largo_ People really need to go back to a library to learn what "ruined" means.
Nov 29, 2023 4:34 AM

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I hate the higher-ups at studio Mappa, not the staff
Who are you and why do you show your hostility towards a complete stranger whom you've not once spoken with before. Are you seriously asking to get blocked? Well, if that's what your intent is; to tempt me into throwing hands with someone as lowly and insignificant as you, then i may grant your wish provided you articulate yourself a bit better when trying to spite a person of my wavelength.
Nov 29, 2023 4:42 AM

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Not too much. It's a studio that makes generally good animations. It treats its employees badly, but I am not that selfless to hate MAPPA just because of that. However, what they did with JJKS2 did change my mind about this studio in a bad way.
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Nov 29, 2023 4:54 AM
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no i don't actually hate them, but i think it's very fair to criticize their business practices and their inconsistent production quality.

also, i would very much like if instead of fucking up in some way or another every big action title they take on, they would finally give me my zombieland saga sequel movie but i guess that's not where the money is at.
Nov 29, 2023 5:02 AM

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I love KyoAni, and I like mappa too, but mappa need to focus work life balance.
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Nov 29, 2023 6:29 AM
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I hate their labor exploitation, but not them as a whole.
Nov 29, 2023 8:59 AM

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While i do love their work i just can't respect the people who run the studio given how many of the animators are treated and how overworked they are. I just can't respect that.
Nov 29, 2023 9:25 AM

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Nov 29, 2023 9:54 AM
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What would be the point of hating a studio? If they screw up an adaption you looked forward to, then it's more directors fault or am I tripping?
If an adaption is badly made, like CSM like some said, then CSM sucks itself. Which it did and does since I've read and watched both.
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Nov 29, 2023 1:19 PM

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No.
Anime just doesn't hit the same without that little pinch of slave labor :(
Nov 29, 2023 1:26 PM

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Wait, do people hate MAPPA, or just the guy in charge?

MAPPA has a lot of very talented animators. They deserve to be treated way better.
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Nov 29, 2023 1:47 PM

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Dragevard said:
Do you actually hate Studio Mappa??


This might be hard for some to believe but most Users probably don't obsess about Animation studios. The last Anime I watched specifically by Mappa was "Hell's Paradise" and the only reason why I know this is specifically because you Dragevard created this thread (I quickly checked to see what they actually released recently). I would have never even realized "Hell's Paradise" was produced by Mappa otherwise.

You ask if I hate Mappa? No. I really don't have much of an opinion about Mappa other than it's just like any other Animation studio. Just it seems to be talked about more on a place like MAL than something like say as an example Studio Fantasia. Animation studios technically don't really make an Animation, it's actually the staff that does the grunt work. If you know anything about the people who actually work on any given project, they basically float around from project to project other than the key players like the Chief Animation Director and it's not like they even stay localized to the same studios. Any given project produced by the same studio never has the exact same staff either.

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Nov 29, 2023 2:29 PM

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hate is a strong word
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Nov 29, 2023 2:50 PM

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No I don't hate anyone, I haven't been and seen them work so I have no opinion in this matter but... from what I have heard which is hearsay I don't agree with their actions and current treatment in the work environment + I dont know how Japans current state of economy is so I don't wanna say much about their pay but if it's true that they are under paid, they should try to find a new job.

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Dec 1, 2023 10:46 AM

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Nyo. Hate is a strong word, and I don't use hecking strong words.
Dec 1, 2023 10:56 AM

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I've heard their work ethic is pretty bad and their staff is often underpaid, but that's an issue that's rampant in the entire industry. So I wouldn't say I hate them but it is something that should be improved on.

As for the works they've released, no I don't hate them, I've liked quite some of their works.
Dec 1, 2023 11:40 AM

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lmao what does it matter if a bunch of people on a random website hate a whole ass production company?

but to answer your question, no.
Dec 1, 2023 11:49 AM

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No. But they need to work on improving the working conditions for there workers.


Dec 1, 2023 12:07 PM

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No, i dont hate them they are a really good studio but i just wish they would give their animators a break because they don’t treat them right.
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Like most people/users here said, I don't hate MAPPA as they're a good studio and need to treat their staff better or improve working conditions.
Dec 1, 2023 12:31 PM
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i hear they also fucked up Jigokuraku, so its not wonder it sold even worse than CSM

the day animators learn to strike... or shit.. start their own studios is the day the industry can be fixed

Dec 1, 2023 1:12 PM

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If they treat their staff better and give them a little more time to animate, they'd be cooking.

If it hadn't been for them, Attack on Titan might still be sitting in limbo right now and we'd have never gotten a completed series. Vinland Saga might not have gotten a second season either.
Dec 1, 2023 1:17 PM
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I could not give less of a fuck about CRAPPA.
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I find the people that think the studio is flawless or try to excuse their mistreatment of workers more frustrating. Though the entire industry is full of mistreatment of animators and production staff outside of a very small number of exceptions so it's not really productive to fixate on and hate one studio for something that's unfortunately commonplace. They've made things that I love and things that I'm not too fond of like any other studio, so I don't have many strong feelings about the studio as a whole. They aren't the saviors of the industry or anything that hyperbolic; they're just a studio that typically puts out works with a higher production value.
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