| So I was having this discussion with a friend the other day and wanted to hear your thoughts on this matter. How would you feel if your favourite Mangaka, Seiyuu, or even director did something absolutely horrible or inexcusable? Will it affect the way you perceive your favourite anime? Will you stop buying their merchandise? Will you begin to hate what you once loved? Tell me your thoughts. |
| that's never happened to me, at least not when it comes to anime. the main songwriter of a band I like was accused of doing some bad things but I don't even know if it's true or just a vengeful ex telling lies. Regardless, I still listen to the music. |
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| nah, I think doing that is pretty lame |
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| No, but I could see someone saying that as an excuse to pirate the work. To not support them. |
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| Never ask an NGE fan about what Anno did to Asuka's Voice Actor. or a Kanye fan about the Alex Jones interview. |
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NorthmostIsle said: what did anno do to Asuka's voice actor?Never ask an NGE fan about what Anno did to Asuka's Voice Actor. |
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| In a word, no. When I watch anime I am having literally no thoughts about anyone involved in the creation. The one exception to this is if the news caused me to notice things about it that I never noticed before, which changed the way I viewed the show. But this is currently a hypothetical, never happened before. |
| I will continue to love the work and the author, and I would never separate the author from the work because the work is a piece of that being. I hope that if the author does something terrible, he can see it, regret it and try to stop it from happening again. |
| My answer to any variation of this issue is: if you would really scrutinise creators from any area, from entertainment to academics, and stop consuming stuff from people you consider to be despicable, you'd probably end up with barely anything to read or watch anymore. Artists and intelligent people overall tend to be very problematic. So yeah, that doesn't bother me in the least and I tend to not care about creators' personal life at all, unless they've done some pretty interesting things or wrote about themselves. |
| Stop liking the series: no Showing any support or spending money: yes Heavily encourage pirating of their work: absolutely |
| Definitely not. I honestly couldn't care less. And I don't even own any anime merchandise anyway. |
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| No I won't stop liking a series. I am liking a series not the author. Like what's the difference if the nice looking painting is made by no name or Adolf Hitler himself? Art shouldn't be connected to Artist, I don't mind if someone is searching for news from Author's tweets if they do something like that, but they are 2 separate stuff and should be judged seperately, if an anime is terrible but have a known author from let's say Death Note, you're gonna give it 10/10 just because of the Author? |
| No, because the actions of the author have nothing to do with the content of their creations. Like, if Hirohiko Araki said some incredibly fucked up racist shit, it wouldn't make JoJo's Bizarre Adventure suddenly a worse series. It'd still be my favorite series, and Stone Ocean's final fight would still be one of my favorite fights in the entire medium of anime. Plus, even if such a thing were to happen I wouldn't have to feel bad about supporting him, since parts 7 and 8 don't have an official English release, part 6 didn't have one when I initially read it, and part 9 won't have one when it starts, so I can only rely on fan translations on sites like Mangadex. |
epidemia78 said: I specifically requested not to be asked >:(NorthmostIsle said: what did anno do to Asuka's voice actor?Never ask an NGE fan about what Anno did to Asuka's Voice Actor. But just cuz it's you, epidemia78 I’ll tell you. Allegedly during the production of Eva, Anno wanted Asuka’s VA to act out a scene wearing nothing but a T-Shirt. That’s kind of gross and weird so of course she refused. Anno kept pressuring her to do it, however, and it got messy to the point where she started to fear for her safety for a while. This was a big thing a month or so back on r/evangelionmemes but a few users have questioned the article linked in the original post. The article is in Japanese so I can’t really dig into it all that well myself to give my thoughts. Still, Anno has gone on record stating he sees himself in his characters so if true it makes the whole hospital scene all that much more uncomfortable. I have not personally looked into it too much as I'm really hoping it's fake and don't think my fragile psyche could handle it if confirmed. here is the original reddit post that spawned the scandal Can I even call it a scandal if no one that matters actually seems to care? idk. |
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| If my favorite Seiyuu do something absolutely horrible? since all my favorites are female, I would absolutely love them more... I love bad women... The more evil the better.. |
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| Probably yeah, thank god I’ve never been in such a situation and I don’t hope such a thing ever happens and even if it does, I hope it doesn’t reach my ears at least. Ignorance is bliss |
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| No, because I can separate a series from its author. Nothing against people who can't but I'm tired of people telling me I'm weird for liking Rurouni Kenshin or still listening to Kanye West's old bangers. |
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| Nope, i'd still enjoy the work regardless of what they did. |
| No, that's stupid. I'm a type of guy that can look at Hitlers paintings and say "That's much better than all of that modern AI generated art" |
| I do think seperating the art from the artist is valid. It also is gonna depend on if you personally are attached to the authors work, in terms of if you follow a lot of what they make because you like their unique perspective. However. If this did happen in happenstance. I would stop supporting financially and I think that's the least most people can do. I understand just dropping a series you spent years caring and loving is a hard thing to just automatically do if the author is a scum bag but it doesn't do any favors to keep financially affirming this authors practices with your wallet. |
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| I draw a clear line between the art and the artist and couldn't care less if the artist did something bad as long as it doesn't influence the art. |
| doesn't matter. i'll only care if that affects the author's works otherwise not. |
 The end of an era. Thank you Wit, Mappa and Isayama. Feeling half happy, half sad. Kawaii waifus and precious best girls <3333 |
| it's the opposite for me, the more horrible the mangaka is the more I like him/her. In my dreams, Ohtaka Shinobu will finally confess that she hates beautiful women and that she bullied cute girls to suicide when she was in high school, shit like that. Also, when will Mizukami confess he's a lolicon, his twitter is full of lolis in panties. |
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| something inexcusable? like, what? corruption? meh |
| I don't think I would since what I like would be the work itself right? so yeah |
| I've been lucky enough that nothing like that has happened with my favorite authors yet. Now while I believe in separating the art from the artist, if my favorite mangaka did something really heinous I'm not sure I could keep enjoying the series like I did before. I probably wouldn't hate the series itself, but I'd probably always be reminded of the bad things the author did which would certainly sour my experience. Also in that case I would no longer support the franchise by buying merch and stuff. Admittedly I already pirate everything I watch and don't buy lots of merch anyways so not much would change in that regard haha |
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| Lol, I can pretty much separate the author from their work. If I think they are pieces of shit, I dont think I would still have trouble separating their work. Now, if they do something irl and their work contains stuff like that say the author of a loli manga/anime being charged with possession of child porn or Tatsuki Fushimoto being charged with murder with evidence of killing people in his basement with a chainsaw, all i can really say is the signs were there in their works. |
"Perfection is perception. For me, humanity's imperfections is what makes it perfect"  |
| Nah, you have to separate art from the artist. Artist are human, so they'll always have flaws (some worse than others)... and some virtues. And besides, justice is there to make them pay, not us. And well, there are a lot of bad people doing great thing in history, art is just another thing that can be made by them. You can enjoy their stuff in pirate if you don't want to pay them anything, so you can enjoy it without guilt. But if they are in prison, I don't think that the money would help them that much, lol. |
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| No. It's not anime, but I love Yuji Naka's games. Just because he was caught for insider trading doesn't mean I appreciate his work less. |
| Probably no, just like what some have said, separate art from the artist. |
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| I can mostly separate the art from the artist, but in some pretty awful cases I can never look at something the same way again. While I never consumed Ruroni Kenshin, knowing what Watsuki did makes me very hesitant to even consider consuming that series. It's in the same vein that I wouldn't blame you for say, not listening to the band Lostprophets considering the depraved shit that band's singer did. |
| And at his feet they'll cast their golden crowns When the man comes around. |
| I mean if it is like, a serious crime like pedophilia DEFINITELY YES. If it is something like open transphobia I would also say yes since I am a trans woman and don't feel comfortable supporting creators who hate the fact that I exist |
This post is brought to you by your local transfem gamer goblin. Will not tolerate bigotry and will fight against "anti-woke" sentiment to make the anime community a safer place.  |
| While it IS hard to separate the author/artist from the work, I doubt something like that will completely ruin the work for me. I obviously wouldn't be able to view the series in the same lens as I did before, but I would still remember the moments that I enjoyed. |
| Never. They could quite literally be a serial killer, baby rapist, and mass torturer. It has zilch to do with what value, if any, I see in their art and what it has to say; what it does for me and how it speaks to me. And watching and enjoying and appreciating an anime, cartoon, live action film or series, music, painting, novel, video game, architecture, sculpture, etc. and my decision to do so is in no way an inherent and implicit signal of agreement with or endorsement of either any single one or the entirety of the artist's thoughts and beliefs, voiced statements of opinion, and actions throughout their life. There is probably no one in existence in the entire span of human history and highly likely never will be someone with whom I would agree with and support every single one of their thoughts, statements, and actions. It's a ridiculously stupid and inane, impossible, mythical bar founded in irrationality from its very conception and based on self-righteousness and reflexive, kneejerk, puritanical tribal thinking. Art has no boundaries or limitations in its expression (other than technically materially, within the bounds of physics within our present universe, currently) and I would no sooner automatically shut out or shut down anything anyone at all created for any reason in their artistic endeavors because of who they were and whatever else they said, thought, or did (past, present, and future included) than I would close my ears in ignorance to whatever they had to say verbally, which is also something I will never do. Another reason why it's pointless and hypocritical - Do you pay taxes? If you don't work or have borrowed or devised some crafty method to skirt them, then forget income taxes, but almost everyone participating on the forum here probably paid sales tax in some form before, at least once, if not many many times. That tax goes to the state. And all governments to varying degrees have abused people, have persecuted the weak, have beaten up, intimidated, emotionally or sexually abused, tortured or killed others at home and/or abroad at some point (and no, I'm not an anarchist; far from it. It's just reality). Pretty much every government to have ever existed guaranteed has caused more harm to others in some way than any random private individual and yet we're all - those with running water and other utilities, internet, etc. plugged into society and the system in some way, through our own money or our families', complicit with and turning a blind eye to the trampling of others daily. It's human nature. But the holier-than-thou types shut that all out to construct a false persona of purity to themselves and others. |
WatchTillTandavaJan 6, 2023 12:47 PM
| absolutely not. unless what they did directly relates to the story that they wrote. but that wouldn't necessarily make the story worse. I certain cases, as horrible as this sounds, it might even make it better a horror thriller, would be a lot more terrifying if the author was a serial killer. |
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| it would probably be hard to love a series as much as I did before but I couldn’t just stop liking it unless the writer literally committed genocide |
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| I am grown up enough to separate art from the artist. For problems to emerge, the artist would have to spread his/her root through the art. For example, I have a massive... let's say... lack of respect... for rappers. While I like some hip hop, I despise how most glorify drugs, crime, gangs, sex trafficking and being a piece of shit. In those cases, I can't really separate the art and the artists, because they are both trash. But I don't really see what a mangaka or anime producer could do to make me... not respect them... |
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| I guess no. In general I separate the art from its author, unless the author includes their highly disturbing fantasies into their work, treating it as just another way of speaking out loud such things. |
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| I don't know who needs to hear this but SEPARATE THE ART FROM THE ARTIST/CREATOR |
“Maybe nothing in this world happens by accident. As everything happens for a reason, our destiny slowly takes form.” - Rayleigh  |
| Of course not, I only care about the content of the anime/manga itself not the author. I don't see what's so hard about separating the art from the creator, it's as easy as breathing. |
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