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do you have a problem with considering Korean and Chinese animation ''anime''

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May 1, 2021 9:59 AM
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I my self don't have a problem recently i have been seeing people angry for considering those anime
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May 1, 2021 10:09 AM
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I don’t personally consider them anime, but I don’t care if others do. It’s way too trivial to get “angry” or have any strong feelings about.
May 1, 2021 10:11 AM
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They should be called anime-style or anime-influenced animation, just as Avatar: TLA and others like that.

I do think that one day the definition of anime outside of Japan will change to encompass both Japanese animation and animation influenced by Japan, but that's not how things are right now.
May 1, 2021 10:18 AM
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Anime quite literally means animation from Japan and has for a long time, the words original definition was animation but given the unique and distinctive form it took on has become the Anime we know today that is only produced in Japan. Similar to how Manga and Comic Books can be similar, they are not the same thing.

It would be like saying pie and cake are the same because they are both baked, desserts and generally sweet.

Another way to put it is all anime is animation but not all animation is anime, similar to the all thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs. Distinctions are important.

I don't care if they are on the site but words have definitions for a reason, with out them language is just random shit people say that has no meaning.
May 1, 2021 10:20 AM
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Don't care. The usage of the word anime in the west is different from the japanese usage.


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May 1, 2021 10:21 AM
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Yes I do. I really don't understand where this whole expanded definition of anime came from. The english language use of the word describes japanese animation. China and Korea are not Japan.
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May 1, 2021 10:35 AM
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if you rly care about it you should go outside lmao
May 1, 2021 10:40 AM
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Like someone else already mentioned anime means animation in Japanese but it's become so big that it's turned into it's own separate artistic medium. I consider anime to be mostly Japanese, though I've seen a Chinese animation that was almost just like normal anime, except that they were talking in Chinese.
May 1, 2021 10:52 AM
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To me, if I can go into it blind and think that it seems to be anime, then it counts for me. I would even count series like Avatar and RWBY, since they feel like anime.

But I wouldn't count something like Superbook, for example, because I didn't even realize it was from Japan until years after I first watched it.

Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but to me, it's less about the nationality of the creators and more about the style and things like that.




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May 1, 2021 10:52 AM
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Yup especially from china, coz china animation mostly made in doll form not much different from their games

May 1, 2021 11:00 AM
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Nah i dont really care too much about it. For me, anime is about enjoyment and not biasing on where the anime came from
May 1, 2021 11:01 AM

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Don't care, I would still call something like tog an anime just for convenience sake.
May 1, 2021 11:11 AM

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I don't really care about Korean and Chinese animation so i don't care if they are anime or not.
May 1, 2021 11:12 AM
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I don't care if they are on mal or not tbh




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May 1, 2021 11:12 AM

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I have watched one of each Korean and Chinese animation... both got a 1/10.


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May 1, 2021 11:15 AM

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I never consider them to be anime.
To me,if they are anime then American cartoons are anime too.

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May 1, 2021 11:16 AM
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Donghua and shit like that? Never really watched one and Im not planning to either, most of them are yaoi and historical, i am not into the genres tho i would watch it if it was yuri or shojo ai and most importantly wholesome. Other than that, I do consider them anime and I am ok with them being added to the database
May 1, 2021 11:17 AM

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China has been pretty core to the foundations of anime for a long time.
https://animationresources.org/category/wan-brothers/
It'd be really tough to argue China doesn't count. I don't know enough about Korea's connections to argue either way though.
May 1, 2021 11:18 AM

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no, it's just that i rarely watch them
May 1, 2021 11:23 AM

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Yes. Japanese animation, made in Japan, is anime. Chinese animation, made in China, is called donghua. Chinese don’t call it anime in the first place. Just call it as it is. I don’t see why it’s so hard.

What Korean anime are you referring to? If you’re referring to those manhwa being adapted into Japanese like Noblesse, Tower of God, then yes, I do see those as anime. If not those that are made in Korea are probably just called Aeni (from 애니메이션) I’m guessing. Not too sure haven’t seen much of those.







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May 1, 2021 11:40 AM
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ribbonaffair said:
Yes. Japanese animation, made in Japan, is anime. Chinese animation, made in China, is called donghua. Chinese don’t call it anime in the first place. Just call it as it is. I don’t see why it’s so hard.

What Korean anime are you referring to? If you’re referring to those manhwa being adapted into Japanese like Noblesse, Tower of God, then yes, I do see those as anime. If not those that are made in Korea are probably just called Aeni (from 애니메이션) I’m guessing. Not too sure haven’t seen much of those.


I question why Donghua series have pages in MAL then if they aren't considered Anime at all.
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May 1, 2021 11:51 AM

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ribbonaffair said:
Yes. Japanese animation, made in Japan, is anime. Chinese animation, made in China, is called donghua. Chinese don’t call it anime in the first place. Just call it as it is. I don’t see why it’s so hard.

So we should go with what the Japanese call anime? Oh wait, All animation is anime.

From Wikipedia:
Donghua, in English, refers to animation made in China. Although in China and Chinese, donghua is used to describe animation from no particular country.

It still has the same definition problem.
May 1, 2021 12:21 PM

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GreenPlatinum said:
From Wikipedia:
Donghua, in English, refers to animation made in China. Although in China and Chinese, donghua is used to describe animation from no particular country.

It still has the same definition problem.


What I meant is, we don’t call donghua “anime”. As in like, Chinese people don’t call it anime. In Korean it’s called 애니메이션 (literally the Konglish for animation), in Chinese it’s called 动画 which both means animation. I’m just saying that we don’t refer to it as “anime” so why would you call it anime? :O

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I question why Donghua series have pages in MAL then if they aren't considered Anime at all.


........? Because MAL doesn’t want to create a different server just for donghua? Maybe you should check with MAL lol







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May 1, 2021 12:26 PM

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I don't do the separation myself. And it's not as if they have nothing in common.


May 1, 2021 12:28 PM

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Because it's not anime, and it has no place on this site.

May 1, 2021 12:29 PM

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I really don't care whether they are anime or not. Tell me if they're good. I am really at a loss these days coz of the lack of good things to watch. IDC if it's Korean or Chinese or Bulgarian... It should be good.
May 1, 2021 12:30 PM

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It seems a tad... Strange. Korean and China are not Japan so why are we clumping their animation into a single, Japanese category?
May 1, 2021 12:33 PM
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Don't care. The usage of the word anime in the west is different from the japanese usage.

Didn't ask. Anime refers to different things when asked to different people. For some it's strictly originational, for some it's stylistic. When you say "I can draw an anime version of you if you want!" you're using the second one, so in theory if you use it in this manner you should be okay with considering any Western/Eastern work in certain style as anime.
May 1, 2021 12:35 PM

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if chinese/korean shit is considered anime so should avatar the last airbender
May 1, 2021 12:46 PM

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Auron_ said:
Lunilah said:
Don't care. The usage of the word anime in the west is different from the japanese usage.

Didn't ask. Anime refers to different things when asked to different people. For some it's strictly originational, for some it's stylistic. When you say "I can draw an anime version of you if you want!" you're using the second one, so in theory if you use it in this manner you should be okay with considering any Western/Eastern work in certain style as anime.
I was asked. Correct, you're just describing the different usages i referred to.


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May 1, 2021 12:47 PM
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Lunilah said:
Auron_ said:

Didn't ask. Anime refers to different things when asked to different people. For some it's strictly originational, for some it's stylistic. When you say "I can draw an anime version of you if you want!" you're using the second one, so in theory if you use it in this manner you should be okay with considering any Western/Eastern work in certain style as anime.
I was asked. Correct, you're just describing the different usages i referred to.


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May 1, 2021 12:51 PM

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"do you have a problem with considering Korean and Chinese animation ''anime''"

I don't make huge problem out of it...still I don't call it anime and I prefer people not calling it such...

And yeah, MAL has strange rules regarding - skipping genuine anime (made with significant japanese creative input) but adding chinese and korean titles.
May 1, 2021 12:53 PM

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Yeah! I got a problem and I have yet to see a Korean or a Chung King commie cartoonist make more dark, gritty "anime" than the ones we have right now.
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Anime belongs to Japan.
Everything else is a cartoon wanting to be an anime.
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May 1, 2021 1:10 PM

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I don't really care I even have one in my favorites.
May 1, 2021 1:15 PM

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People can say what they want to. Doesn't change the fact only Japanese cartoons are anime.
May 1, 2021 1:35 PM

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I really don't care whether they are anime or not. As long as they are good I don’t care,
May 1, 2021 1:38 PM

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I have a HUGE problem with it.
We shouldn't allow other countries and their culture saturate and decrease what's unique to Japan. This is like introducing an Invasive Species to an ecosystem. What's at stake here is Japan's culture being under siege by foreign influence.
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May 1, 2021 1:40 PM

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anime-japanese animation

donghua, cartoon-chinese animation

tho they sometimes market themselves as anime to the west so I guess it's a bit flexible after all
May 1, 2021 1:41 PM

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I consider them as anime so no problem with me. but I will not watch any of it if not produce by Japanese studio.
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To me, animation made in Japan is anime just like cartoons are animation made in the West. As a matter of clarification (to me anyway) Chinese and Korea should call their animation something other than anime and/or cartoons. I'm sure they have a domestic label for it. I would hope they would prefer to distinguish their style/type/classification of animation from everyone else.

Having said that, do I get upset if Chinese or Korean animation is called anime? No.
May 1, 2021 2:01 PM

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Berry-Vodka said:
if you are telling me that they are definitely adding straight the animation made purely by a foreign country

Of course there are some co-productions and japanese projects subcontracted to China and S Korea...but MAL also adds purely chinese and korean stuff.
Other sites like AniDB are doing the same.

I watch and like some chinese cartoons but I don't log them here.
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Next thing you know atla, shrek and cory will actually be added. And not on april lmao
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May 1, 2021 2:44 PM
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Honestly, don't care
while Im sure I aint watching them!
May 1, 2021 2:51 PM

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Don't care. I myself don't call non-japanese cartoons anime, but if someone else does that's their right to do so. In the end they're all part of the same medium that is animation.
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I don't have an interest at all in Korean or Chinese animation.


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At this point I'm too lazy to learn what the terms for Korean anime is, so I just call it anime out of pure laziness, and a hint of spite for the people who care way too much about this shit. Chinese animation is so different that I did actually go out of my way and learn that it's called donghua and use it more regularly, though I still forget to use it quite a bit.
May 7, 2021 12:31 PM
Nah, they're Asian at least. I have more issues with people saying their beloved western cartoon is anime.
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May 7, 2021 12:46 PM

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I enjoy some of them and they can be on here, but they are literally not anime by definition. I don’t get why there’s a debate, they objectively aren’t anime.
May 7, 2021 2:07 PM

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No, all asian cartoon are considered anime just like all asian hurricanes are considered typhoons!
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