| Fate/Zero i belive. Because that's how the show got more critics. |
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| Because waifus and the h-scenes in the VN, thats why |
| Because of MANA-TRANSFER scenes in the VN. Plus, Saber was insta-waifu'd by many in Japan, and they wanted more of her. Although, it all started from Kara no Kyoukai and that doujin-game Tsukihime. |
| Personally, I think it's the idea of servant and master system ingrated with Shiro (who is in the present) and Saber's (from the past or legend) fated encounter. I don't know, but it's a romantic idea to me. |
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| Its all about Fate/Waifu and Fate/Doujin. |
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| Uhh probably the premise of historical figures being summoned as anime-style-characters to kill each other in a battle royale sounding appealing. Also a harem of girls with super powers. It had everything to catch people's attention and it certainly did... The first anime had also a nice mythical feeling thanks to Kawai Kenji's OST (something that Ufotable couldn't bring to the table until now), even if it was quite convoluted. I really used to like it back when it aired on TV here in my country Helios92 said: Fate/Zero i belive. Because that's how the show got more critics. It was popular before /Zero existed. Definitely not the reason |
| It caters to everyone while not being offensively bad, waifuism as said above, the spanning worldbuilding through multiple series and mediums, the little nods which only fans get. Kinda like Monogatari. The huge fanbase helps too, since not only it helps spread the word, but it attracts newcomers that wish to be a part of something like that. |
| Because Fate/Grand Order. Seriously everything by Type-Moon are garbage with zero redeeming qualities. Fate/Grand Order is a shitty game and Azur Lane is superior because of way better gameplay and it shows the greatness of the America! |
| Anime sucks, all of them are bad and that's a fact! |
| F/GO is one of the most popular game in Japan and worldwide too. |
| Unfotable IMO, the unlimited budget made it popular. Besides, fate zero had a pretty nice cast that made everyone jump in... I think, I'm not a sociologist. |
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| Because it's good I guess. I got into the Nasuverse through Tsukihime, then in 2006 I watched Fate/Stay Night because someone said it was set in the same universe. All of them are usually great, but The Garden of Sinners is my personal favorite of the lot. |
| "The name's Gambit. Remember it." -Gambit "X-Men '97"  |
| Because it's a rebranding of Pokemon, basically. |
Kerylon said: It was already huge, but Fate G/O made it even crazier (Also most of the fates are shit compared to Kara no Kyoukai, don't @me) @Kerylon Kara no Kyoukai is pretentious garbage. Nasu just used it as an outlet for a pedestrian philosophical wankfest. Now, UBW on the other hand is an incredibly introspective psychological philosophical tale about unique broken people, self-destructive flawed nature of humanity, lovecraftian eldritch horrors and magic concepts rooted in western and hindu occult. |
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| I believe Fate/Zero is what made it popular in the West. |
Frostbytes said: Kerylon said: It was already huge, but Fate G/O made it even crazier (Also most of the fates are shit compared to Kara no Kyoukai, don't @me) @Kerylon Kara no Kyoukai is pretentious garbage. Nasu just used it as an outlet for a pedestrian philosophical wankfest. Now, UBW on the other hand is an incredibly introspective psychological philosophical tale about unique broken people, self-destructive flawed nature of humanity, lovecraftian eldritch horrors and magic concepts rooted in western and hindu occult. thank you, I didn't know I needed that |
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| Because of magic, action and waifus |
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Kerylon said: Frostbytes said: @Kerylon Kara no Kyoukai is pretentious garbage. Nasu just used it as an outlet for a pedestrian philosophical wankfest. Now, UBW on the other hand is an incredibly introspective psychological philosophical tale about unique broken people, self-destructive flawed nature of humanity, lovecraftian eldritch horrors and magic concepts rooted in western and hindu occult. thank you, I didn't know I needed that You're quite welcome. I learned everything regarding Fate from @Ahenshihael, so if you need any more enlightenment about the franchise, direct questions to him. :) |
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| Everything started with the memes of Deen Fate/stay night on 4chan (People die if they are killed, Mou Ikkai, Sakurafish...), then got more mainstream in the west with Fate/Zero, unleashing a horde of secondaries followers through the hemisphere, that became bigger when the ufo UBW anime became a thing, and it reached its peak with Fate/Grand Order, when all the thirsty weebs jumped to the waifu vagon, and nowadays the franchise is basically Typemoon's cashcow franchise, leading to the decline of other projects like the Tsukihime remake. Frostbytes said: This. UBW is a true deconstruction of the ideals of the hero and his struggle with the grimm reality he has to face. A true magnum opus made by the Gods themselves, before Typemoon went full otakubait, pleasing the mundane of the sheeple. A true tragedy indeed.Now, UBW on the other hand is an incredibly introspective psychological philosophical tale about unique broken people, self-destructive flawed nature of humanity, lovecraftian eldritch horrors and magic concepts rooted in western and hindu occult. |
IllyricusDec 10, 2018 12:26 PM
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| Doujin circles, Type-Moon produced many works, firstly, Tsukihime, Fate, and Kara no Kyoukai. They sold well, really well, became one of the biggest franchise in the VN industry and spread on many media. Its the works of initial success into money cash cows. Its like dem DLCs and microtransaction. And gacha, can never forget gacha. |
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Illyricus said: Everything started with the memes of Deen Fate/stay night on 4chan (People die if they are killed, Mou Ikkai, Sakurafish...), then got more mainstream in the west with Fate/Zero, unleashing a horde of secondaries followers through the hemisphere, that became bigger when the ufo UBW anime became a thing, and it reached its peak with Fate/Grand Order, when all the thirsty weebs jumped to the waifu vagon, and nowadays the franchise is basically Typemoon's cashcow franchise, leading to the decline of other projects like the Tsukihime remake. Frostbytes said: This. UBW is a true deconstruction of the ideals of the hero and his struggle with the grimm reality he has to face. A true magnum opus made by the Gods themselves, before Typemoon went full otakubait, pleasing the mundane of the sheeple. A true tragedy indeed.Now, UBW on the other hand is an incredibly introspective psychological philosophical tale about unique broken people, self-destructive flawed nature of humanity, lovecraftian eldritch horrors and magic concepts rooted in western and hindu occult. Amen, my friend. But to be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand UBW. The monologues are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the sequences will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Shirou's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these monologues, to realize that they're not just meaningful- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike UBW truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the meaning in Archer's existential chant "Unlimited Blade Works," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Kinoko Nasu's genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them. And yes, by the way, I DO have a Rin tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. It's really nothing personnel, just straight facts~ |
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Frostbytes said: r/iamverysmartIllyricus said: Everything started with the memes of Deen Fate/stay night on 4chan (People die if they are killed, Mou Ikkai, Sakurafish...), then got more mainstream in the west with Fate/Zero, unleashing a horde of secondaries followers through the hemisphere, that became bigger when the ufo UBW anime became a thing, and it reached its peak with Fate/Grand Order, when all the thirsty weebs jumped to the waifu vagon, and nowadays the franchise is basically Typemoon's cashcow franchise, leading to the decline of other projects like the Tsukihime remake. This. UBW is a true deconstruction of the ideals of the hero and his struggle with the grimm reality he has to face. A true magnum opus made by the Gods themselves, before Typemoon went full otakubait, pleasing the mundane of the sheeple. A true tragedy indeed. Amen, my friend. But to be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand UBW. The monologues are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the sequences will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Shirou's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these monologues, to realize that they're not just meaningful- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike UBW truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the meaning in Archer's existential chant "Unlimited Blade Works," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Kinoko Nasu's genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them. And yes, by the way, I DO have a Rin tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. It's really nothing personnel, just straight facts~ The themes aren't that complex at all, the ideals and philosophies of the characters and dynamics between them are spelled out very clearly by them so it's very easy to follow. You can stretch depth with anything as there isn't a thing that hasn't been philosophically broken down at some point, they don't exist for this purpose but only use it as a tool to entice a rich story, which it has. |
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| of course it go popular, its digimon with heroes of legend plus its a dating sim, full of waifus for all the weebs |
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| It's popular because the mainstream folks love poorly written flashy stuff with smut inserted in-between (case in point, Aniplex's other cash cow series, Sword Art Online). The mobile game also has a lot to do with it. It's like Pokemon, except you are collecting a bunch of fanfiction versions of historical figures. No one actually gives a cow's ass about the crappy worldbuilding. It's all about waifus and abusing your typical otaku's lack of self control. |
| The "sex sells" angle is definitely a thing here; why else would they basically have like fifty versions of this one character, to represent everyone from Nero to King Arthur? Not to mention I heard that the main protag was originally gonna be female and the King Arthur character originally a male, and then they changed it to a male protag and a female King Arthur character, because they figured it'd appeal. And oh boy did it appeal, for better or worse. Psajdak said: Don't they come from a vending machine nowadays? :POne of my most favorite things is that writers added that simple important detail of Servants being updated with the current world, so as not to get crazy when they see a vending machine. |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
GlennMagusHarvey said: Not to mention I heard that the main protag was originally gonna be female and the King Arthur character originally a male, and then they changed it to a male protag and a female King Arthur character, because they figured it'd appeal. And oh boy did it appeal, for better or worse. Reversal role might be a thing to the mass, I guess. A female protecting male instead of the common stereotype of men protecting women is new to me when I watched F/SN 2006. |
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yuccasnpk said: Yeah I guess that that's an interesting thing too in its own right.GlennMagusHarvey said: Not to mention I heard that the main protag was originally gonna be female and the King Arthur character originally a male, and then they changed it to a male protag and a female King Arthur character, because they figured it'd appeal. And oh boy did it appeal, for better or worse. Reversal role might be a thing to the mass, I guess. A female protecting male instead of the common stereotype of men protecting women is new to me when I watched F/SN 2006. |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| It's becuz of ITS FUCKING WAIFU,and that's a fact |
| Like many people have said, i honestly think it's for the waifus. Saber and Rin have great character designs. There's a reason there's so many Saber clones in the Fate universe. |
| Because people like saber for some reason |
| Well, I think most people's first impression of the Nasuverse came from Fate/Zero, and that's a fantastic show, so the rest of the franchise gets some goodwill based on that alone. And then the fans tend to go out into three groups: Those who love the idea of the historical figures fighting and enjoy not only the Fate/Stay Night Visual novel but also all of the spinoffs and such because of that cool idea. 2. Those who love the themes and exploration of Heroism in the Visual Novel and Fate/Zero. And 3. Those who really just like Fate/Zero. There's also a lot to consume in the Nasuverse, so there's kinda something for everyone, to an extent. |
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Chromephone said: Read The VN my dude, its a classic for a good reasonBecause people like saber for some reason |
fatboyftw said: I mean i really like Fate UBW a lot and its exploration of heroismWell, I think most people's first impression of the Nasuverse came from Fate/Zero, and that's a fantastic show, so the rest of the franchise gets some goodwill based on that alone. And then the fans tend to go out into three groups: Those who love the idea of the historical figures fighting and enjoy not only the Fate/Stay Night Visual novel but also all of the spinoffs and such because of that cool idea. 2. Those who love the themes and exploration of Heroism in the Visual Novel and Fate/Zero. And 3. Those who really just like Fate/Zero. There's also a lot to consume in the Nasuverse, so there's kinda something for everyone, to an extent. |
| Fate wasn't that strong on popularity prior to 2011/2012 (Fate/Zero anime) and the VN's sex scenes are the subject of (in)famous memes. Waifus weren't exactly the reason the series blew up in popularity, Fate was infact largely eclipsed by Code Geass, Gundam 00/Seed, etc in its earlier years. What got Fate popular was Fate/Zero's anime, the light novel (2006-2007) from which it was based was not written by Nasu, but instead by Urobutcher who not only steered clear of the hentai scenes but also tried to write an actually meaningful story. Before this, Both the original FSN VN and Hollow Ataraxia sequel featured sex scenes. From this point on, most things that came out for Fate stopped including sex scenes. Just ecchi/fanservice at most. Fate/Apocrypha, Extra, Prillya, etc. Fate/Grand Order in 2016 brought in a lot of waifu simps and people who never saw any of the anime let alone the original FSN VN. A fate fan today might be a fan of the OG VN, or a fan of the game/waifus, or a fan of the deconstructive Zero, etc. Basically, as Fate branched out as a franchise, it appealed to different sectors of the general populace and ceased to be a title appealing to horny teenbois by simulating a dark fantasy dating experience with a cardboard, a tsundere and a can of worms. @Psajdak |
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FateMadMan said: fatboyftw said: I mean i really like Fate UBW a lot and its exploration of heroismWell, I think most people's first impression of the Nasuverse came from Fate/Zero, and that's a fantastic show, so the rest of the franchise gets some goodwill based on that alone. And then the fans tend to go out into three groups: Those who love the idea of the historical figures fighting and enjoy not only the Fate/Stay Night Visual novel but also all of the spinoffs and such because of that cool idea. 2. Those who love the themes and exploration of Heroism in the Visual Novel and Fate/Zero. And 3. Those who really just like Fate/Zero. There's also a lot to consume in the Nasuverse, so there's kinda something for everyone, to an extent. Oh I do too, Shirou is one of my favorite characters ever. |
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Lunilah said: Obviously They were exaggerating but he's right how symbolic Archers character from his character, to his abilities, chant etc.The thing is that UBW is only the second part of a route and without understanding shirou as a character you will not understand why it is pretty complex, so in my opinion is the ideal are pretty neat and awesomeFrostbytes said: r/iamverysmartAmen, my friend. But to be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand UBW. The monologues are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the sequences will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Shirou's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these monologues, to realize that they're not just meaningful- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike UBW truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the meaning in Archer's existential chant "Unlimited Blade Works," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Kinoko Nasu's genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them. And yes, by the way, I DO have a Rin tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. It's really nothing personnel, just straight facts~ The themes aren't that complex at all, the ideals and philosophies of the characters and dynamics between them are spelled out very clearly by them so it's very easy to follow. You can stretch depth with anything as there isn't a thing that hasn't been philosophically broken down at some point, they don't exist for this purpose but only use it as a tool to entice a rich story, which it has. |
| because waifus and fate doujins, nothing else. |
| Because it's a genuinely fantastic series |
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| I put fate into my favorites because the worldbuilding , it's my #1 favorite worldbuilding in anime so far |
| Хайде, хайде, хайде, това е първата зона, брато, първа зона, първа зона, добре, добре, добре, това става тук горе, отива тук горе, само спокойно, само спокойно... Ха, отдясно е, навсякъде отдясно отдясно къде е дясното ти о да добре добре добре тихо мълчаливо не успях да се съсредоточа върху това ЕХ ТЪПАК КОГАТО СИ БАВНО БАВНО ... ой е путката на моето момиче прасе куче, аз Чувствам се добре, о, мамо, *шамар*, какво е това госпожице татко- |
| Honestly the Nasuverse is one of my favorite fictional universes for a lot of reasons but the main one is you can do so much with the world that was build. It has so many different things that each series that comes out is something new. Sure some of them are bad and some are great but each show has some level of risk. Plus the waifus/characters. |
| Because it's full of waifus, shounen bullshit and good animation, basically the 3 things the average fan cares about, it even has an entry that the big brain deep thinkers can enjoy. Fate has an entry for everyone. It's mainly the waifus tho. |
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