| Okay, I checked the manga few weeks ago and it have a good story so far. but when I saw the anime adaptation, it said it have "shoujo ai". in the manga section, it doesn't have shoujo ai tag. so does it actually have yuri or not? i'm confuse because i could smell the yuri when reading the manga but the tags for it made it seems like a bait P.S: I haven't continue the manga for months now. |
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| It is indeed shoujo-ai. Someone just didn't put the right tags on the website where you read manga. Can't promise that the romance plot will progress far in the tv series though; main characters obviously like each other and spend a lot of time staring at one another but they are way too busy exploring the Otherside and murdering monsters to address the issue. But to me personally this slow pace just makes the story better and... Convincing i guess. |
| read the light novel its a solid yuri |
| Light novel speaks Yuri,so basically its yuri.. just a slow burn.. |
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| Whether the anime will be Yuri or not is probably gonna depend on whether it's gonna be a 1 or 2 cour anime. If it's 1 cour, then I'm pretty sure they're only gonna adapt the first 2 volumes, which has pretty much no Yuri. Volumes 3 and 4 on the other hand, very nice Yuri. ^^ |
| Volumes 1 to 3 basically require you to crank up your yuri goggles to the max to see any. Then Volume 4 remembers that it has the tag to live up to, and goes full But since they're going to adapt two volumes at most (2 cour? Haha what's this, 00s?) - unless they have a butcher wish - you can pretty safely say that, nope, this season is not yuri. |
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Nanaca said: But since they're going to adapt two volumes at most (2 cour? Haha what's this, 00s?) - unless they have a butcher wish - you can pretty safely say that, nope, this season is not yuri. That makes me wonder whether I should watch it at all. The shoujo ai tag was what made me put this anime into my PTW list in the first place, watching a story nothing much more to it than two girls killing monsters is not something I would like to spend my time with. |
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| People saying there's no yuri in the first volumes are kind of exaggerating, there's no need for goggles to see it. There are some undertones, some stronger than others, yes, although I don't know how they'll get translated into the adaptation. |
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Ishitateso said: That makes me wonder whether I should watch it at all. The shoujo ai tag was what made me put this anime into my PTW list in the first place, watching a story nothing much more to it than two girls killing monsters is not something I would like to spend my time with. I wish I could reassure you. Make no mistake - the LN source is genuinely great, yuri aside. But it's also a piece that translates poorly to a visual medium and while a very talented team could still make it work, Liden Films and the gang they've gathered are anything but. So my expectations are rather low, although as long as they stick to adapting instead of indulging their miscreative fantasies (as happens all too often) it would be well worth watching still. |
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MossyNasi said: It is indeed shoujo-ai. Someone just didn't put the right tags on the website where you read manga. Can't promise that the romance plot will progress far in the tv series though; main characters obviously like each other and spend a lot of time staring at one another but they are way too busy exploring the Otherside and murdering monsters to address the issue. But to me personally this slow pace just makes the story better and... Convincing i guess. Shoujo ai is an artificial term that comes from stupid Americans who think yuri is lesbian porn. There is only yuri and that is the yuri title. Ishitateso said: Nanaca said: But since they're going to adapt two volumes at most (2 cour? Haha what's this, 00s?) - unless they have a butcher wish - you can pretty safely say that, nope, this season is not yuri. That makes me wonder whether I should watch it at all. The shoujo ai tag was what made me put this anime into my PTW list in the first place, watching a story nothing much more to it than two girls killing monsters is not something I would like to spend my time with. Stop. Are you going to watch it just because of the yuri and won't even take it if it's not there? Is that the only thing that interests you? Nanaca said: Ishitateso said: That makes me wonder whether I should watch it at all. The shoujo ai tag was what made me put this anime into my PTW list in the first place, watching a story nothing much more to it than two girls killing monsters is not something I would like to spend my time with. I wish I could reassure you. Make no mistake - the LN source is genuinely great, yuri aside. But it's also a piece that translates poorly to a visual medium and while a very talented team could still make it work, Liden Films and the gang they've gathered are anything but. So my expectations are rather low, although as long as they stick to adapting instead of indulging their miscreative fantasies (as happens all too often) it would be well worth watching still. I haven't read the original, but with LF's reputation as masters of school shonen-seinen in mind, I don't think they'll have much of a problem with that. Liden's guys are pretty good at work with moderate action and consistent storylines. |
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RobertBobert said: Ishitateso said: That makes me wonder whether I should watch it at all. The shoujo ai tag was what made me put this anime into my PTW list in the first place, watching a story nothing much more to it than two girls killing monsters is not something I would like to spend my time with. Stop. Are you going to watch it just because of the yuri and won't even take it if it's not there? Is that the only thing that interests you? Is that the only thing that interests me? No. But in this case that was the only thing that could catch my attention. I watched the trailer months ago, so there is not much that I can recall of it, but judging from that little "girls killing monsters in the otherworld" (or something along that line) is not my cup of tea in itself. |
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Ishitateso said: RobertBobert said: Stop. Are you going to watch it just because of the yuri and won't even take it if it's not there? Is that the only thing that interests you? Is that the only thing that interests me? No. But in this case that was the only thing that could catch my attention. I watched the trailer months ago, so there is not much that I can recall of it, but judging from that little "girls killing monsters in the otherworld" (or something along that line) is not my cup of tea in itself. In that case, no problem. I'm just very salty about people who are willing to watch and praise anything if it's yuri. Well, or yuri in their head. _Yurification_ said: For anyone doubting if it is Yuri or not https://teletype.in/@kati_lilian/SJA8KwjjN (Author's interview) This is not so much an interview as an essay about the author's vision of the genre. Which, ironically, contains both a rebroadcast of very interesting information about yuri and rather typical Japanese prejudices and fetishes. For example, when he first talks about the platonic yuri, and then about the fact that female characters should be in some kind of closed room, where not only should there be no male characters, but even the illusion of involvement of the male reader through the narration on behalf of the heroines should not be ... |
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RobertBobert said: I haven't read the original, but with LF's reputation as masters of school shonen-seinen in mind, I don't think they'll have much of a problem with that. Liden's guys are pretty good at work with moderate action and consistent storylines. Sometimes reading (even the synopsis) helps, as there's literally no school (and the university pretty much stays in the background). Not that it stops LF being talentless hacks which barely can scrape together a few decent titles in their not so long yet overly productive history, school, kindergarten or postgrad it be. |
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Nanaca said: RobertBobert said: I haven't read the original, but with LF's reputation as masters of school shonen-seinen in mind, I don't think they'll have much of a problem with that. Liden's guys are pretty good at work with moderate action and consistent storylines. Sometimes reading (even the synopsis) helps, as there's literally no school (and the university pretty much stays in the background). Not that it stops LF being talentless hacks which barely can scrape together a few decent titles in their not so long yet overly productive history, school, kindergarten or postgrad it be. I don't quite understand what this passive-aggressive tone is about, but modern Linden Films are mostly adaptations of school shonen and seinen with moderate action and without any serious fan service. The very discreet yuri LN, which is aimed at a wide audience (as opposed to most male-focused yuri) with uncomplicated action is not much different from what Linden usually do. And given their normal show budget, I don't think this anime will suck. Especially if you're originally a yuri or science fiction fan. |
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| Some sites list this as Shounen, some as Shoujo Ai. I assume it has a bit of both, but does it mix well? It's not like those genres are polar opposites, but are aimed for completely different audiences. Did anyone have seen an anime with such unusual combo? |
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Piromysl said: Some sites list this as Shounen, some as Shoujo Ai. Because the MANGA ADAPTATION is being published in a shonen magazine that's why some sites included the shonen tag with the MANGA. |
RobertBobert said: Shoujo ai is an artificial term that comes from stupid Americans who think yuri is lesbian porn. There is only yuri and that is the yuri title. I despise the idea of using "shoujo ai" as some sort of "light yuri," but this statement isn't quite accurate. Shoujo ai as a term for lesbian media came from a time when yuri basically was just lesbian porn and actual queer people wanted a term for their own stuff that wouldn't associate them with that. It hasn't been used that way in over a decade so sites like MAL really need to get rid of it, but you should still properly know the history. |
Piromysl said: Some sites list this as Shounen, some as Shoujo Ai. I assume it has a bit of both, but does it mix well? It's not like those genres are polar opposites, but are aimed for completely different audiences. Did anyone have seen an anime with such unusual combo? Since when does shoujo ai go bad with shounen? Florete said: RobertBobert said: Shoujo ai is an artificial term that comes from stupid Americans who think yuri is lesbian porn. There is only yuri and that is the yuri title. I despise the idea of using "shoujo ai" as some sort of "light yuri," but this statement isn't quite accurate. Shoujo ai as a term for lesbian media came from a time when yuri basically was just lesbian porn and actual queer people wanted a term for their own stuff that wouldn't associate them with that. It hasn't been used that way in over a decade so sites like MAL really need to get rid of it, but you should still properly know the history. Lol, modern fanboys are even trying to push shoujo ai as a loophole to rationalize their search for yuri subtext. But one way or another, this term was originally deadborn, since the very essence of yuri and lily symbolism is feminine purity and innocence (yes, I understand all the implications of labeling lesbian relationships as pure and innocent and I condemn it). The rest is just culturally insensitive. _Yurification_ said: I would like to add that Yuri fans should definitely not miss this one.It has been a long time since we got an anime with Adventure and Sci-fi with Yuri(last was flip flappers I think).And from the first episode it looks really good. FF was never marketed as a yuri, let alone science fiction. It's pure fantasy with yuri elements, which the director talked about quite openly in his BD brochure. |
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RobertBobert said: Piromysl said: Some sites list this as Shounen, some as Shoujo Ai. I assume it has a bit of both, but does it mix well? It's not like those genres are polar opposites, but are aimed for completely different audiences. Did anyone have seen an anime with such unusual combo? Since when does shoujo ai go bad with shounen? I never even made that statement. |
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RobertBobert said: Lol, modern fanboys are even trying to push shoujo ai as a loophole to rationalize their search for yuri subtext. But one way or another, this term was originally deadborn, since the very essence of yuri and lily symbolism is feminine purity and innocence (yes, I understand all the implications of labeling lesbian relationships as pure and innocent and I condemn it). The rest is just culturally insensitive. I mean...I do more-or-less agree with you. I'm often first on the scene when someone tries to say that something is shoujo ai instead of yuri. I'm just pointing out that saying shoujo ai "comes from stupid Americans who think yuri is lesbian porn" is misinformed, not to mention needlessly insulting. |
| For the Gods sake, let's define it without the pretentious cringe weeb "japanese terminology". Does it have romance between 2 girls? Yes, right? Does it have explicit sex or sensual scenes between 2 girls? No, right? That's enough to define it for me. |
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"I assume it has a bit of both, but does it mix well? It's not like those genres are polar opposites, but are aimed for completely different audiences. Did anyone have seen an anime with such unusual combo?" _Yurification_ said: RobertBobert said: Since when does shoujo ai go bad with shounen? Lol, modern fanboys are even trying to push shoujo ai as a loophole to rationalize their search for yuri subtext. But one way or another, this term was originally deadborn, since the very essence of yuri and lily symbolism is feminine purity and innocence (yes, I understand all the implications of labeling lesbian relationships as pure and innocent and I condemn it). The rest is just culturally insensitive. FF was never marketed as a yuri, let alone science fiction. It's pure fantasy with yuri elements, which the director talked about quite openly in his BD brochure. Hey now, I never said that it was marketed as Yuri or sci-fi but you can't deny those aspects(you can if you are desperate though).I too love love love love my friend. The Yuri genre and the yuri element are two different things. Not to mention, again, this is not science fiction. Not all that is unrealistic is science fiction. Florete said: RobertBobert said: Lol, modern fanboys are even trying to push shoujo ai as a loophole to rationalize their search for yuri subtext. But one way or another, this term was originally deadborn, since the very essence of yuri and lily symbolism is feminine purity and innocence (yes, I understand all the implications of labeling lesbian relationships as pure and innocent and I condemn it). The rest is just culturally insensitive. I mean...I do more-or-less agree with you. I'm often first on the scene when someone tries to say that something is shoujo ai instead of yuri. I'm just pointing out that saying shoujo ai "comes from stupid Americans who think yuri is lesbian porn" is misinformed, not to mention needlessly insulting. Considering my experience of such disputes, yep, it was the "dumb americans" who came up with this. This is especially true when people try to argue that shows like Hibike are shoujo ai because they have a yuri subtext. |
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RobertBobert said: "I assume it has a bit of both, but does it mix well? It's not like those genres are polar opposites, but are aimed for completely different audiences. Did anyone have seen an anime with such unusual combo?" I'm pretty sure that I know better what I meant and it was a question, not a statement, because I don't recall seeing an anime with shoujo ai and shounen combo. At least not in the tags. |
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| Yuri should be seen as an umbrella. Its a term that covers anything that have lesbians in it, in anime and manga . It doesn't matter if the lesbians just hold hands or having sex . Both are still Yuri's. Shoujo Ai on the other-hand is a incorrect term and shouldn't be used Is Urasekai Picnic a Yuri? Well I think so. Sorao seems to be hitting it of with her new girlfriend and the Yuri vibes are there . And its only been one episode in, give my lesbians some time and who knows they might even kiss in the future,,,,YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES  |
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_Yurification_ said: Also what is not science fiction? Again, don't confuse science fiction and unrealistic setting with science fiction elements. Urasekai Picnic is a sci-fi yuri, while FF is mostly just fantasy. |
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| I just want to know if it is queer baiting or if they actually canonly get together/have a romance |
_Yurification_ said: Seijatachiiii said: I just want to know if it is queer baiting or if they actually canonly get together/have a romance It isn't baiting at all but the romance develops slowly and we might not be able to reach the parts of LN(from which anime is being adapted) where the real romance start.THIS IS NO QUEER BAITING!Read author's interview and you will understand it isn't baiting. Oh okay, thank you for letting me know. I might watch this when its finished airing then |
_Yurification_ said: @RobertBobert Na, you ain't a homophobic but you definitely have gripe against Yuri fans. Well, if you want to say that all yuri fans are weirdo who wishful thinking and only look at things through yuri goggles, then okay, that's up to you. People who know how to separate actual content and their hobbies do not interest me. _Yurification_ said: Seijatachiiii said: I just want to know if it is queer baiting or if they actually canonly get together/have a romance It isn't baiting at all but the romance develops slowly and we might not be able to reach the parts of LN(from which anime is being adapted) where the real romance start.THIS IS NO QUEER BAITING!Read author's interview and you will understand it isn't baiting. Well, to begin with, his interview does not contain any justification for why this is yuri. If only because this work is an official yuri and it is not necessary. To be honest, I absolutely do not understand why people still argue about this. |
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| [quote=_Yurification_ message=61600130] RobertBobert said: _Yurification_ said: @RobertBobert Na, you ain't a homophobic but you definitely have gripe against Yuri fans. RobertBobert said: Well, if you want to say that all yuri fans are weirdo who wishful thinking and only look at things through yuri goggles, then okay, that's up to you. People who know how to separate actual content and their hobbies do not interest me. I never said those things, please stop projecting yourself~ You were the one who tried to translate my dislike of werdos throughout yuri fandom as a whole. _Yurification_ said: "Well, to begin with, his interview does not contain any justification for why this is yuri." Um ok but do you know it is not for you to decide if it justifies or not because I am pretty sure you aren't the only one who has a functioning brain so let them see for themselves if it justifies for whether this series is Yuri or not. You deliberately quoted only the first part of my sentence in order to accuse me of something with the help of a completely inverted meaning? Okay. If you haven't noticed, then I write further that this series is official yuri and I don't see any reason to argue about it. |
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have you read the manga? does the manga protray the yuri aspect of it as solidly too? |
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