Vinland Saga
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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Haha, this chapter was funny especially with how Thorfinn keeps refusing about bringing the sword to Vinland. At least he had his own reasons. Still a funny chapter all the way to the end. |
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| Decent chapter. The dialogue was a hit-miss for me but I did like the imagery of it. The ending with Gudrid being Gudrid with Thorfinn was really cute not going to lie. Whenever I see her, she's got that really charming and likable and caring attitude with her Thorfinn that kind of makes me feel good about myself so she saved it for me. |
| I don't understand how the author managed to turn this manga into such idealistic tripe. Embarrassing to say the least. |
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| Best Chapter in a while. Thought it was great. |
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| Thorfinn sure is reluctant LOL! |
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Hatsuyuki said: I don't understand how the author managed to turn this manga into such idealistic tripe. Embarrassing to say the least. I'm assuming you're being sarcastic ? Because that is what this manga has been building up to for years now. It doesn't come out of the blue, at all. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Thorfinn's ideology is stupid. 1/5 Wow, art in current chapters looks weak. |
Farabeuf said: Hatsuyuki said: I don't understand how the author managed to turn this manga into such idealistic tripe. Embarrassing to say the least. I'm assuming you're being sarcastic ? Because that is what this manga has been building up to for years now. It doesn't come out of the blue, at all. That's true, doesn't make it any less stupid though. When your real world ideals get in the way of actual good writing and you can see the author's intention through his fictitious work then it fails as fiction if you ask me. All this pacifism and tran inclusivity agenda he's been pushing extra hard after the Baltic War arc is just pure cringe and makes no sense in the context of the setting at all. "Waaahh wahhh but it doesn't have to be historically accurate AT ALL", yeah well, that's true, but this argument would stand if the author didn't specifically go out of his way to pick actual historical figures from that time period as the characters of his work. He also managed to build a pretty believable and politically interesting world up until recent chapters where it all went down the drain. What the series has become now in terms of writing is almost unrecognizable compared to the Prologue arc, i am honestly having a hard time thinking of a downgrade bigger than this manga. |
HatsuyukiMay 25, 2020 1:10 PM
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| Remember when vinland saga was a good manga? |
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| Hild saying the same shit over and over and over again. I honestly love this manga (recent chapters were meh though), but holy fuck Hild is such an annoying character. |
| %%% realism |
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| man i wanna like hild but can she chill the fuck out? |
AnimeFreak-San said: is this a male gender issure...human issue...mental illness perhaps? |
| Wee bit disappointed Hild is still being crusty, but she does have a point. Weapons are not the sole excuse for human nature. |
| I found this chapter quite profound. Thorfinn understands that the presence of such a weapon does nothing but escalate any situation, no matter how you justify its presence. It's disappointing to see comments about how "this manga sucks now," presumably because it isn't violent (at the moment). I still think there's a lot to look forward to; their inevitable adventure, Hild's character development, and the situations Thorfinn will have to negotiate without weapons. |
| It's called a trashCAN, not a trashCANNOT. |
| Why is Hild still here? What role does her continued presence in the story serve? She's done the same thing over and over and over again without any development whatsoever. And now she's throwing a fit over Thorfinn's attempt to explain his stance on weapons to Eyvar. And as funny as Thorfinn and Eyvar's exchange was, why can't Thorfinn just say that, though they don't have swords, they're still taking axes, bows and spears as they'll still need them to farm and otherwise protect themselves in Vinland? It's pure comedic fluff to waste time. |
| acotede said: I found this chapter quite profound. Thorfinn understands that the presence of such a weapon does nothing but escalate any situation, no matter how you justify its presence. It's disappointing to see comments about how "this manga sucks now," presumably because it isn't violent (at the moment). I still think there's a lot to look forward to; their inevitable adventure, Hild's character development, and the situations Thorfinn will have to negotiate without weapons. Nah the writing has just declined..and its not because of pacifist Thorfinn. The farm arc for an example was still amazing but since then it just feels more childish, dragged out etc. and the characters are not as compelling now |
Aardwolf94 said: acotede said: I found this chapter quite profound. Thorfinn understands that the presence of such a weapon does nothing but escalate any situation, no matter how you justify its presence. It's disappointing to see comments about how "this manga sucks now," presumably because it isn't violent (at the moment). I still think there's a lot to look forward to; their inevitable adventure, Hild's character development, and the situations Thorfinn will have to negotiate without weapons. Nah the writing has just declined..and its not because of pacifist Thorfinn. The farm arc for an example was still amazing but since then it just feels more childish, dragged out etc. and the characters are not as compelling now Stop reading and ignore this manga then,and don't bother who still enjoy it.Thanks. |
acotede said: I found this chapter quite profound. Thorfinn understands that the presence of such a weapon does nothing but escalate any situation, no matter how you justify its presence. It's disappointing to see comments about how "this manga sucks now," presumably because it isn't violent (at the moment). I still think there's a lot to look forward to; their inevitable adventure, Hild's character development, and the situations Thorfinn will have to negotiate without weapons. Agree,can't wait for the next chapters |
flipperblack said: Aardwolf94 said: Nah the writing has just declined..and its not because of pacifist Thorfinn. The farm arc for an example was still amazing but since then it just feels more childish, dragged out etc. and the characters are not as compelling now Stop reading and ignore this manga then,and don't bother who still enjoy it.Thanks. No I won't stop reading. Just because its not as great anymore doesn't mean its shit |
| Thorfinn's argument wasn't making any sense I mean what if the civilians of Vinland attack and they don't have any weapons as for some tools of knife and axe for lifestyle. |
| "nooo this manga now sucks ugh peace bad trans people bad" C'mon, the message has always been there since the beginning: "a true warrior needs no blade". This story has always been about the search for a land where the weak could live in peace, without having to deal with injustice and war. In crude terms: "SAFESPACE: The Manga". yeah, I agree that some of the philosophical views are heavily anachronistic. However, as someone here has mentioned, it's *fiction*. "But the author uses real historical characters, locations and events!" Well, that's true, but it doesn't mean that the author NEEDS TO be 100% accurate on everything. Jesus, I don't see anyone shitting on the FATE series when they change a historical figure's gender [JK, not serious, calm down!]. Now, seriously, the author has the right of creative freedom to put philosophical anachronisms in his fictional production. It is an action/adventure japanese comic book, not an academic history encyclopedia. >imo<, ppl who think the author has lost its way are being naive or just mad due to the progressive morals sustained by the narrative |
| Really don't know what the fuck people in this thread are whining about. Like yeah, the story is slow, but acting like there's been a gigantic dip in quality is just ridiculous. |
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| But if we had no swords how can we kill and enslave ze natives - Colombus maybe |
| Thorfinn is too idealistic no doubt lets see if it works out in the end weapons is use for killing for sure but weapons do protect people too |
| I always liked the pacifist theme of Vinland Saga, but this is too much. They're going to a land they're unfamiliar with, they have to have weapons for insurance. Also I don't feel so excited about their future arrival in Vinland, given how things ended up in real life, but I'm sure the author will create a lot of interesting conflict at least. |
| can dis sig fit |
| I'm so tired of Hild |
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| the brothers only think in himself!!! kekeke |
| I like how Thorfinn understands and agrees with Ivar's justifications for bringing his sword only to refuse the latter to bring it on this journey, feels basically like that one Patrick Star's wallet meme. On the other hand I'm getting frustrated with Hild's character who after two years of staying by his side seems to keep repeating that she can kill him any moment. |
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