| I don't think I was that normal even before I started taking anime seriously.I was already destined to be a social recluse ever since I was young, due to my upbringing which was key in molding my extremely introverted and socially awkward nature.Anime is just something I identify with on a really deep level,and something I care about even if it adds to my already socially recluse status.I actually really enjoy relishing in my degeneracy, because at least I am being honest with myself and my interests. |
SummerynDec 30, 2019 6:16 AM
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| I think maybe. My tastes, hobbies and interests are very questionable AHAHHAHAHA |
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| Watching day to day reality makes me feel more uncomfortable than anime. Reality is more degenerate by a mile. Will someone insert a Tenko "degenerate males" video? I can't on my smapho. |
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The one and only Intern-kun. |
| It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person. |
| [Headnod] [Headnod] [Headnod] [Headnod] [Headnod] |
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| Yes, absolutely, and I can promise you that it's far more preferable to the alternative. |
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FlowersInTheRain said: Manaban said: Yes, absolutely, and I can promise you that it's far more preferable to the alternative. So you’re going to end the post right there? Somebody had to prompt you for the rest of the story? Come on Manaban spill it. What is the alternative. I’m intrigued (and a little frightened). Needless self repression over fucking graphite and paper/binary numbers due to social pressure and age-old fearmongering tactics? I mean, sure, let's cower in fear at everything sexually abnormal forever, especially when we're discussing non-living entities. Or we could just, y'know, not do that and do our own thing instead and have fun with in an environment conducive to it. |
ManabanDec 30, 2019 1:02 PM
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| Anyone who says's no is secretly a closet pervert, no debate. |
| "Well, she's flatter than a pancake" -Mimi Alpacas |
| No. None of you are degenerates. All of you are beautiful people. |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| I blame those 3 Suzuki mirano Clock-up Empress. |
JoyBoy_316Dec 30, 2019 2:16 PM
| I was actually more of a degenerate previous to watching anime. |
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| These types of threads are the exact reason why I switched to AniList. |
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| ahh again the loser ecchi/yaoi/yuri/all that wank fandom trying to claim degeneracy but did you know 12 yr old naruto frequently transformed into a smexy loli seducing his mentor who actually got aroused sometimes and spanked him. I watched that when I was 9 hahahha all you dudes thinking you're the real degenerates please y'all lameeeee got nothing on me bro do u know how many kids watched fairy tail that beats all your fake degenerate shit aimed at virgins we on that real perv shit here. spirited away was basically a 10 yr mc working in the red light district. team rocket raped pikachu multiple times but it was framed with subtlety. all you nibbas vanilla pretending to be perv |
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| I feel like degeneracy isn't a one way straight path to hell. I know that fetish is a reflection of someone's identity in real life. I just don't question the morality of someone when I saw them. >So that puts us on the fringes of society. Not only does consuming a lot of anime push us towards becoming socially reclusive but we also find ourselves enjoying things like harem, Ecchi, fan service, loli, hentai, yaoi, yuri, and so on. I think you're self projecting too much here, calm down isekai MC-kun. |
_Ako_Dec 30, 2019 7:46 PM
| Kinda surprised so many people said no :) I'm definitely a degenerate. We don't gotta talk specifics tho |
| grab life by the balls. make it your bitch and don’t be a degenerate while your hentai plays in the background |
| let's take a break from fapping over fictional characters and write a forum of how i am a degenerate. |
| Degeneracy depends on how much you allow yourself to succumb to corruption and insanity. It is important to take good care of your health (Physical; Mental; Spiritual; Sexual) than to be negligent. If there is something you crave, get it fixed while ensuring that your "fix" does not break the law or get someone killed. Having been there and done that, I am proud, standing tall, and happy to know that I found my True Calling. |
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GatesOfOblivion said: You're all degenerates for liking that garbage. Yes. You are degenerate for not liking that garbage. |
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| I don't really like that term in general. It strongly reminds me of Nazi terminology used against jews and homosexuals and it's generally a word that is mostly used by people with a political agenda who want to demonize anyone deviating from their personal beliefs. I don't want anything to do with that kind of mindset. And even in its core definition it doesn't really apply to what anime fans think it does (which seems to be any kind fetish or interest in sexuality that goes beyond missionary with one's wife). "decline or deteriorate physically, mentally, or morally." "an immoral or corrupt person" "having lost the physical, mental, or moral qualities considered normal and desirable; showing evidence of decline." I don't see how that applies to me, or most anime fans I know. Sexuality isn't immoral, masturbation isn't immoral, even having fetishes isn't immoral, unless you believe in thought crimes, in which case kys please. What we need to embrace is not this false label that tries to put sexuality in a box labeled 'degeneracy'. No, we need to embrace the fact that it's perfectly normal and there's nothing wrong with having a fetish or liking to masturbate or whatever else anime fans call themselves 'degenerates' for. It's not a bad thing, it's not even special. We need to embrace our normalcy. And I think 'being special' is the reason why people so willingly attach such a negative term to themselves. Everything to count as 'special' and 'different', even if you have to attach insults to your name... Personally I'd much rather change the perception of anything sexual being classified as 'degenerate' because I think that's a very problematic, unhealthy and toxic attitude in society and in the anime fandom. No matter what anime fans tell themselves about being different from normies, in the end they still silently accept these false labels and standards and even proudly wear them instead of objecting and trying to change the underlying perceptions that lead to these problematic mindsets in the first place. That's the wrong approach as far as I'm concerned. If you really think After all, almost everyone in society is a degenerate in one way or another. then it should be obvious that something with our definition of 'degenerate' is wrong and should be fixed. If everyone is degenerate because we treat normal and harmless things that have nothing to do with morality as 'degenerate', then noone is degenerate. Because degenerate specifically means 'not' being normal, deviating from the norm, so if everyone is degenerate, degeneracy IS normal and therefore noone is degnerate. In my opinion it should be a term reserved for people who actually commit immoral or corrupt acts. It cannot and should not be applied to fantasies or fetishes, and definitely not to any kind of sexual interest in general. What people actually DO defines whether they are morally degenerate or not, not what they think or fap to. OP reads like a hardliner christian when he lists all the things that he thinks makes us 'degenerate' and it's just a list of thing loosely related to sexuality one way or another. Sorry, but I'm not religious so I don't buy that bs about anything sexual being morally tainted and making everyone who doesn't strictly avoid it a 'degenerate'. |
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FlowersInTheRain said: Thumbs up to that! But isn’t there a concern that people will eventually just act like Donald Trump and grab bitches by the pussy whenever they feel like it without consent? I'm sorry, but I'm not paranoid enough to make breaches of liberty in what can be portrayed in sexualized fiction because of the *potential* that somebody could get a bastardized view of personal space through it. Which, mind you, I don't think is especially likely or common in the first place, especially considering that there's a difference between straight up noncon/even just dubcon and the type of scenarios portrayed in this. Noncon/dubcon is a lot more prominent in Yuri/Yaoi than ecchi, where usually the worst is camera zoom-ins and angles or fucking accidents. FlowersInTheRain said: Maybe that’s the real issue. And I actually don't think it's wrong for somebody to feel that way and take personal issue with it, even if I don't agree with it being pronounced enough to warrant it. I wouldn't bother fighting it, it's not a battle worth having. But if they want to make the "muh potential rapist!" argument, which is literally the age-old fearmongering tactic I was referencing, "muh potentially creating (near-universally condemned action)!" then they can blow it out of their ass. It's not at all different from the shit the religious right tries pulling about media and they should be completely grouped in with them due to the baseline concern of potentially encouraging behaviors they consider immoral. It's moral authoritarianism and people who unironically support it should take a short drop and sudden stop in my book. I won't respect the argument in the context of "we should use it to change/alter the way media portrays things." FlowersInTheRain said: But then again as others have pointed out other mediums also show a lot of degenerate stuff. But I think they usually show it with consent being given for the most part. I think it's like, 3/5 of women or something admitted to having had rape fantasies as part of a case study, from some sex psych journal I read a while back. Does this mean those 3/5 of the women from that sample are okay with being raped? That we should track down their identities and rape them and they'll like it? Of course it fucking doesn't, because while fiction can influence our perception of reality, it doesn't inherently fucking do so and people are more than capable of recognizing things like "ok just because I shoot somebody in GTA doesn't mean I can go around killing people irl" or "just because I find this noncon/dubcon kind of hot doesn't mean I can go around raping people." And that's what a lot of things don't really factor in when they push these rhetorics against something - it states that they *can* be influenced, not that they *will* be influenced in reality by something they saw in fiction. And we're often talking about absolute extreme examples with stuff like murder and rape, and all but the most mentally unwell individuals can construct boundaries between fiction and reality when it comes to the acceptability of things like murder and rape. The bigger question isn't "Does art influence reality," the question is "Should we get uppity about fiction because of this percent of a percent of a percent of a percent who *might* be detached from reality enough to *maybe* use it as a casus belli to commit disgusting acts?" If your worldview is black and white enough to say yes to the latter, you're fucking paranoid and your opinion shouldn't be taken into consideration. |
ManabanDec 31, 2019 10:06 AM
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| No, "degenerate" is a nonsensical term that doesn't mean anything. |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
| I'm a little into the loli and furry fetishes, so yes, I'm a degenerate I suppose. But remember, the true rotten people are the ones who move this degeneracy to the real world. |
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| Define 'degenerate'. :/ People being judged for the fiction they consume is just bullshit. Our preferences do not define who were are. What's important is how we act in the real world. |
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shirakawa_megumi said: Who are you to say that sibling can't have sex? I like how people are fine with things they do themselves, angry when more conservative people think it's perversion, but at the same time find something to judge others for. Putting people in jail for fucking with sister? Regime. And not even start with genetics disorders, because in today's world fetus is considered to have zero value, so if not contraception, then quick abortion will solve this problem. Woah. I absolutely give you right on that. I'm absolutely pro-everything if it happens consensual and with no one getting harmed. I'm also Anti-Abortion. |
MySweetLuciferJan 18, 2020 12:01 PM
| A couple of hours ago I watched an episode about different penis sizes and how that would affect fucking fairies but that's just normal stuff right......... right? |
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