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Dec 28, 2019 12:51 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I just love watching Toga and her little bit of expressions in this episode, especially when interacting with Twice. It's hard to take her seriously despite how dangerous she is.

The battles featured Mirio kicking some ass but even he knows how dangerous Overhaul is. Gotta admire Mirio's fighting spirit though. He's there to prove what a hero is :o

Dec 28, 2019 2:02 AM
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Togata Mirio , True Hero!!!
well that's just my opinion.....
Dec 28, 2019 2:16 AM
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Rip Mirio's quirk ;-;
Dec 28, 2019 2:19 AM
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I really hate it when there's so much emphasis on someone, build-up to get to know them, to create their character, everything, only for them to - end up being "disposable", basically. "Use" once, and that's all, they're gone. And I legit don't know whether this is the better case or the worse, being "only" his quirk, and not his life. x_x
Dec 28, 2019 2:22 AM
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I HAD GOOSEBUMPS THE WHOLE FIGHT. I was a little bit disappointed there was a picture slideshow at the end and not an epic fight.
BUT NOW IT'S DEKUS TURN. I waited sooooo long for these two following episodes. I can't contain myself!! aaah

►"The deeper the darkness the more dazzling the light shines." ◄
►"As you live you lose reasons and hope. But as you keep on going, you pick up new reasons and hope."◄
►"If I don’t stand up here… If I don’t reach higher here… When am I ever going to do it?"◄
Dec 28, 2019 2:22 AM
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A hero boundless by quirks. He truly answered the midoriya question about ''quirkless'' being hero
Dec 28, 2019 2:29 AM
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wtf, that great fight was shown in a slideshow manner
how great would it have been, how powerful it have been if the studio decided to bring the old director back and animate that precious fight
i am angry but the emotions were super high in this one
3/5 for not giving us proper animation
Dec 28, 2019 2:37 AM
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Lemillion a true hero . The MOTHERFUCKING 🐐
Dec 28, 2019 2:37 AM
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Definitely not the stylish, beautifully animated fight I foresaw but oh well. Lemillion is a beast, love the way he uses (used, rip) his quirk in combat. That cliff hanger though, about time reinforcements arrived.
Dec 28, 2019 2:41 AM

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Oh boy this episode was over as soon as I started it, Lemillion hype!! Mirio really gave it his all even without his quirk and now it's Deku's turn to kick Overhaul's ass. Can't wait for the next episode.
Dec 28, 2019 2:42 AM

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A bit different from what I imagined, but at least not at Meliodas vs Escanor level. Midoriya appeared, save the day. I hope we get at least one great sakuga moments for the climax of the arc.
Dec 28, 2019 2:42 AM
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Togata, MVP of Heroes.

Chisaki, MVP of Villains.
Dec 28, 2019 2:45 AM
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Man I hope the movie is slick af because if it isn’t I’m gonna be sorta pissed that season 4 got the cold shoulder with meh animation to what we are use to.
Dec 28, 2019 2:50 AM
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To any manga readers who may say that they butchered the fight, look at the chapter and you will see that Horkikoshi didn't attach any panels to the fight after he lost his quirk. He simply narrated it instead with a couple of text boxes. Bones added a lot to the end of the fight to add more emotion, slideshow or not.

Also there was no need to put endless sakuga in a fight that emphasizes on pure emotion, look at All for One vs All Might. There was practically no sakuga in that fight.

All in all, it was a good adaptation and it made me tear up. Lemillion saved one person, lets hope if he gets his quirk back that Lemillion can save 999, 999 more. 5/5
Dec 28, 2019 2:51 AM

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lol slideshow fight damn what happened to the sakuga

but its not bad though although its not great either

and obviously Mirio will get his quirk back somehow

Dec 28, 2019 2:53 AM
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This was quite good Ep.... Enjoyed it!
Dec 28, 2019 3:00 AM

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What an awesome episode, enjoyed it very much!!

I love the scenes with Twice and Toga!


That last shot of Deku before the preview is wallpaper worthy!
AyyMayyDec 28, 2019 3:03 AM
#FreePalestine 🇵🇸
Dec 28, 2019 3:10 AM
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The diashow animation killed me.
Dec 28, 2019 3:15 AM

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It was an honestly amazing episode, but somehow I expected an even better fight. People were hyping up this part so much, like this was gonna be such an intense battle. Well, it was great anyway. I'm expecting a lot from Deku VS Overhaul now.

As others have mentioned, that slideshow at the end was not the best choice. That could've been an insane battle, like one at the level of Deku VS Muscular(which is the best fight of the entire anime IMO)...
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Dec 28, 2019 3:17 AM

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It was an honestly amazing episode, but somehow I expected an even better fight. People were hyping up this part so much, like this was gonna be an intense battle too. Well, it was still great. I'm expecting a lot from Deku VS Overhaul now.


ye as a manga reader it did not live up to the hype but its not that bad
Dec 28, 2019 3:21 AM

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Holy fucking shit does this anime even have animation anymore????? This episode was nothing but Powerpoint slideshows! What a letdown for Mirio's fight! FFS this is what I was waiting for!
Dec 28, 2019 3:45 AM

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This fight was awesome.
Also, Overhaul being transphobe "confirmed".
Just wait for shitstorm on Twitter.

Dec 28, 2019 3:47 AM
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TheOmnivert said:
wtf, that great fight was shown in a slideshow manner
how great would it have been, how powerful it have been if the studio decided to bring the old director back and animate that precious fight
i am angry but the emotions were super high in this one
3/5 for not giving us proper animation


You mean the animation director? Or the director who is credited as chif director . Also the movies been done and released in Japan hasn't it
Dec 28, 2019 3:48 AM

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It's been a while since I've watched subbed. It sounds so weird now lol

Easily the best episode of the season. I loved Mirio's determination in this episode. RIP permeation quirk.
Dec 28, 2019 3:54 AM

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Kami_sama_ said:
look at All for One vs All Might. There was practically no sakuga in that fight.

the best and most emotional moment in the fight (united states) was sakuga, and even so, i dont think that with good animation the fights would be better in this season. they just feel emotionless when compared to the previous seasons
Dec 28, 2019 3:59 AM

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yellowheartren said:
I really hate it when there's so much emphasis on someone, build-up to get to know them, to create their character, everything, only for them to - end up being "disposable", basically. "Use" once, and that's all, they're gone. And I legit don't know whether this is the better case or the worse, being "only" his quirk, and not his life. x_x


Isn't that the case for most BNHA characters tho ? The author loves introducing a huge cast of characters every arc just to never use them again after said arc ends.
Dec 28, 2019 4:01 AM

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My heart was thumping like crazy from beginning to end. I loved it!

Having that said tho, the episode wasn't as perfect as I hoped it to be. It felt rushed towards the end when Mirio's little backstory was skimmed through, and his desperate last stand at the end was reduced to a powerpoint presentation.

I just hope anime onlys really felt for Mirio. I mean, think about it. He took down two bullets, went toe to toe with Chisaki (without his quirk even! No fear!), and in the end sacrificed his quirk. It's really heavy stuff. His quirk took absolute mastery to utilize, and without all the sheer determination and struggle he went through in his youth, he wouldn't have made it as far as he did.

Those are the things I want people to take away from this episode that weren't emphasized enough. He gave up his dream, and confronted death in the eye. Nobody would have been able to achieve what he could with his effort, and ideals.

All this rambling could probably give Izuku a run for his money though.
Dec 28, 2019 4:04 AM

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the reason I love BHA bcz they give credit to the both side hero and villain... this episode proves that point.....




but I think this episode could have been better with more action........ overhaul is like a god he can't be defeated this easy.....
“You can always die. It's living that takes real courage." - Himura Kenshin”

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Dec 28, 2019 4:06 AM
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virg0 said:
Kami_sama_ said:
look at All for One vs All Might. There was practically no sakuga in that fight.

the best and most emotional moment in the fight (united states) was sakuga, and even so, i dont think that with good animation the fights would be better in this season. they just feel emotionless when compared to the previous seasons
Yeah I somewhat agree with that.

They definitely put their best animators onto the movie, or at least placed a lot of their focus on the movie. Regardless, this arc wasn't highly admired by manga-readers anyway when it first came out, so as always, never listen to manga-readers about how hype a season will be.
Dec 28, 2019 4:06 AM

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virg0 said:
Kami_sama_ said:
look at All for One vs All Might. There was practically no sakuga in that fight.

the best and most emotional moment in the fight (united states) was sakuga, and even so, i dont think that with good animation the fights would be better in this season. they just feel emotionless when compared to the previous seasons


It’s emotionless because all might is not in the story anymore.



@Kami_sama_

They work on more than one anime. The best animators went to mob psycho season 2. Like in 2016 when MHA season 1 came out.
Old_School_AkiraDec 28, 2019 4:10 AM
HACKs! 🤢🤮
Dec 28, 2019 4:09 AM

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I agree that there should've been more sakuga in this fight, but holy shit, the feels were on point.

Mirio for Nr.1 ;_;

Now it's your turn Deku.

Edit: I hope they're going to do his fight justice.

FMmatronDec 28, 2019 7:25 AM

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Dec 28, 2019 4:13 AM
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Great Mirio moments, Overhaul was great too, the fight was awesome
Dec 28, 2019 4:15 AM
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Old_School_Akira said:
virg0 said:

the best and most emotional moment in the fight (united states) was sakuga, and even so, i dont think that with good animation the fights would be better in this season. they just feel emotionless when compared to the previous seasons


It’s emotionless because all might is not in the story anymore.



@Kami_sama_

They work on more than one anime. The best animators went to mob psycho season 2. Like in 2016 when MHA season 1 came out.

Good they did, Mob Psycho Season 2 was the most beautifully animated anime (for me) in 2019. I would sacrifice MHA's animation quality in a heart beat if it would repeat the animation of MP Season 2 for its third season.
Dec 28, 2019 4:20 AM

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Is it just me or was this episode pretty weak visually ?
I mean the final clash was just a slide show and the animation in the entire episode was rather limited, also correct me if I m wrong, but did they reuse that shot of the glowing fist from the earlier seasons?
Dec 28, 2019 4:22 AM

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What an outstanding episode. This is probably the best episode so far in the entire anime. I can't wait for the next one.
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Dec 28, 2019 4:23 AM

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Kami_sama_ said:
Old_School_Akira said:


It’s emotionless because all might is not in the story anymore.



@Kami_sama_

They work on more than one anime. The best animators went to mob psycho season 2. Like in 2016 when MHA season 1 came out.

Good they did, Mob Psycho Season 2 was the most beautifully animated anime (for me) in 2019. I would sacrifice MHA's animation quality in a heart beat if it would repeat the animation of MP Season 2 for its third season.


Mob pycho ain't getting a 3rd season
Dec 28, 2019 4:25 AM

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xShinigami3125 said:
Is it just me or was this episode pretty weak visually ?
I mean the final clash was just a slide show and the animation in the entire episode was rather limited, also correct me if I m wrong, but did they reuse that shot of the glowing fist from the earlier seasons?


Yes it's kidda weak and also yes the did reused
Dec 28, 2019 4:27 AM
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miros said:
Kami_sama_ said:

Good they did, Mob Psycho Season 2 was the most beautifully animated anime (for me) in 2019. I would sacrifice MHA's animation quality in a heart beat if it would repeat the animation of MP Season 2 for its third season.


Mob pycho ain't getting a 3rd season

There should be some sort of continuation on the way though, since there is more manga-content to be covered.
Dec 28, 2019 4:35 AM

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Kami_sama_ said:
miros said:


Mob pycho ain't getting a 3rd season

There should be some sort of continuation on the way though, since there is more manga-content to be covered.


not really there is like what less than 10 chapters in the manga left and nothing much happen in those

maybe if they reallllllllllllllllllllllllllly stretch it
Dec 28, 2019 4:38 AM
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Gj Bones. Ya ruined the best moment in this shitty arc. Quirkless Mirio. This could've been Deku. I would be had much more interest in this show than him just INHERITING the strongest power. Oh well. Guess the wanna save the Sakuga for the gay boy.
Dec 28, 2019 4:44 AM

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miros said:
Kami_sama_ said:

There should be some sort of continuation on the way though, since there is more manga-content to be covered.


not really there is like what less than 10 chapters in the manga left and nothing much happen in those

maybe if they reallllllllllllllllllllllllllly stretch it


err those final chapters of Mob Psycho has a lot of pages like in a hundreds per chapter
Dec 28, 2019 4:45 AM

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Kami_sama_ said:
miros said:


Mob pycho ain't getting a 3rd season

There should be some sort of continuation on the way though, since there is more manga-content to be covered.


Both seasons of Mob bombed in Japan. There's no way that manga is getting more anime.
Dec 28, 2019 4:51 AM
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Mad respect to Mirio, or Lemilion, this episode!

Even going as far as to resist despite losing his quirk was really touching and his backstory coupled with that just made it all the more impactful imo. I've a feeling he'll eventually get his quirk back though over time. Chisaki fought really as well managing to withstand that ferocious attack but I feel like he could've pushed a bit more especially with the spikes which seemed to just about penetrate Mirio's body and not finish him off effectively.

Mirio taking care of the two Hassais effortlessly at the start was awesome to watch as well, especially that scene of him dodging the bullet and knives and then going to the offense in a split second. Even the villian there praised Mirio in the end, he really fought his heart out.

Meanwhile, Deku spotting the Hassai member and quickly taking care of him on the other hand was really cool too! I wonder what the League of Villains is up to during this eventful raid.

Deku appearing last second there in the nick of the moment was freakin' lit, always a fan of these xD! Can't wait to see Deku vs. Overhaul up next! PV 5 promised we'll be seeing some fabulous animation in store so super hyped to see that! Next episode preview suggested something with the Nighteye couldn't predict Eri and Deku's futures so I'm curious to see what that's all about.

I've to say the slideshow in the end there was indeed disappointing especially compared to the exhilarating fights we've had in this series in the past but it wasn't half bad so I'm not too ticked off honestly. Hopefully, we'll be seeing something special next week though!
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Dec 28, 2019 4:53 AM

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It’s emotionless because all might is not in the story anymore.

what? i'm talking about the fights
Dec 28, 2019 4:55 AM

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I'M CRYING

WHY DID THEY HAVE TO DO THAT TO MY CUTE BARA BOI WHYYYYYYYYYYY

Please tell me he gets better or his quirk back.. Please.. T~T
God I love him so much.. He's in my favourites now!


Dec 28, 2019 5:02 AM

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The art was beautiful this episode, but the static images were genuinely concerning. The director's choice here actually felt more of a stopgap to the suspense occurring in the second half of the episode.
Dec 28, 2019 5:02 AM

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TheOmnivert said:
wtf, that great fight was shown in a slideshow manner
how great would it have been, how powerful it have been if the studio decided to bring the old director back and animate that precious fight
i am angry but the emotions were super high in this one
3/5 for not giving us proper animation


You mean the animation director?

Yeah the animation director
Dec 28, 2019 5:07 AM

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This is why Mirio is my favourite character in this show. His development and depth are all created perfectly to fit into the dynamic tone of MHA. I'm really excited to see what happens in his story next - hopefully he isn't disposed.

We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths.
As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are.
That's what death is, don't you think?


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Dec 28, 2019 5:08 AM

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I am going to say something weird

The "Animation" part is just a part of an "animated" show, not the most important one. If people only care about animation then there is no reason for this medium to exist, or to create interesting story/characters who actually *Blend* with the animation style
Gintama doesn't have crazy animation, and it doesn't need it(Crazy Sakuga would ruin it)
Am i trying to be defensive? No, i don't even think i am a huge fan of MHA, i am just tired of people whining about animation, from OPM S2 (negatively) to Demon Slayer(positively)

Were S2 and S3 animated better? Yes
Do i care? No

What about the episode?
Like always, i watch MHA for the writing, world building and storytelling
And, like always, i liked all of it, Mirio is a great character and some consequences will be felt
Animation wise? I thought it was good, especially the slideshow part, a quirkless guy shouldn't fight with cfazy flips or incredible action, he is just a normal dude, the most important part was the meaning behind it
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Dec 28, 2019 5:10 AM

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So if Mirio fought Overhaul one on one,Mirio should be able to beat him.
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