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Apr 8, 2019 9:19 AM
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Looking back at it now, I changed my mind about this chapter. The manga isn't perfect but it knows what it's doing and this isn't a bad arc.
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Apr 8, 2019 11:11 AM
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Yikes the raws do not look good, feeling real bad for prez.
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Apr 8, 2019 10:04 PM
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I still thought this chapter was cute. Ice Kaguya putting ketchup on her lips to get Shirogane to kiss her. Still not sure why he fainted though. I guess he was too pressured. Then Ice Kaguya has a realization that if she stays the way she is then everyone around her will be in pain. I assume Shirogane will eventually kiss her and tell her that he likes the ice part of her too and her Yu-Gi-Oh personality will disappear.
Apr 8, 2019 10:20 PM
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Not sure what people are so upset over. Looks like standard laughs and great comedy from what I skimmed. I'll wait for the full translations to comment further but I like the author bringing back various gags from previous chapters, some recent and some from quite a while ago.

I will admit Miyuki's suffering a lot but I appreciate what Ice Kaguya is bringing to the table for her and his development. Her directness is going to seriously develop the two of them in the longrun and also make for some interesting moments when normal Kaguya remembers how she's acting now.

My opinion on Ice Kaguya is she has been interesting and funny in small doses, but I definitely want regular Kaguya to return soon.
Apr 9, 2019 5:23 AM
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Okay.
I was very optimistic about it, but I really think that this is my least favorite arc so far in the entire manga.
Their relationship has become so toxic that Shirogane freaking fainted. It's that bad.
Kaguya looked so proud of herself when she talked about how she changed to Shirogane's dad, but now she went full 180 back to square one and probably won't stop until Shirogane does what she wants.
It's like an awful AU.
I'm just going to wait until the end of this arc where they go back to being themselves.


Didn't Miyuki faint because he lacked sleep?

Apr 9, 2019 6:57 AM
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Okay.
I was very optimistic about it, but I really think that this is my least favorite arc so far in the entire manga.
Their relationship has become so toxic that Shirogane freaking fainted. It's that bad.
Kaguya looked so proud of herself when she talked about how she changed to Shirogane's dad, but now she went full 180 back to square one and probably won't stop until Shirogane does what she wants.
It's like an awful AU.
I'm just going to wait until the end of this arc where they go back to being themselves.


Didn't Miyuki faint because he lacked sleep?
Well Ice Kaguya IS the reason he can't get any sleep, because she has him all stressed out. So yeah she is the reason he fainted. Hopefully this will be a wake up call for her.
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Apr 9, 2019 8:28 AM
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It's from lack of sleep. The Korean scans made a joke by posting an image of her kicking him right after because it's amusing, but the beginning of the chapter makes it a point to emphasize his lack of sleep lately so there's no reason to assume otherwise.
Apr 9, 2019 11:06 AM
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He lacked sleep because of Kaguya tho...
It even said so in the beginning of the chapter, he couldn't sleep because of the stress caused by the situation he's going through.
The light at the end of tunnel here is Kaguya finally realizing that her methods have only hurt Miyuk, so hopefully things only go up from here.
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Apr 9, 2019 12:03 PM
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Yeah this chapter didnt do anything to really upset the last chapter for me at all especially after hearing a couple people freak out over it, it was pretty cute and the end was basically what this whole thing has been building up to of kaguya getting a bit of a wake up call over her actions.
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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Apr 9, 2019 12:31 PM
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HalfHalfBastard said:
He lacked sleep because of Kaguya tho...
It even said so in the beginning of the chapter, he couldn't sleep because of the stress caused by the situation he's going through.


Well okay I'm not denying that lol. Just saying it wasn't REALLY from the comedic kick even if it's funny to think it is.

Poor prez has had a rough time lately. I mean in my honest opinion I don't think either Miyuki or Kaguya deserve to be too harshly criticized because they're both in a state of transition and conflict atm. But I do think they need to grow from this chapter.

Funny thing is that in the chapter the narrator even directly points out that Miyuki is acting like "a dense romcom protagonist and used to not be this dense" so the author is clearly going for some intentional over-the top lengths to make both Kaguya and Miyuki seem worse than they are. They will probably grow out of it though.

Also a bit of a side note but I find it so amusing that at the start of the series Ishigami was always the one screaming and running home from Kaguya, and now that he's developed respect from her it's Chika and Ino always running home. Kind of would like to see some growth between Kaguya and those two tbh.
Apr 10, 2019 5:47 PM

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lmao, that food baiting, but last part tho, wtf?

also, man, THE QUALITY.
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Apr 10, 2019 7:33 PM

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Tsk Fujiwara u spoiled the fun.

That last panel though I wonder what happened to President or is it just a lack of sleep?
Apr 10, 2019 7:56 PM
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Please Aka stop Miyuki's suffering, it stops being funny when it actually hurts him.

Now since it appears we are retreading earlier chapters, I wonder if we are going to get a Kaguya visiting a sick Miyuki at his house next week.
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Even kissing her does not work
Apr 10, 2019 8:19 PM
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Even kissing her does not work
Poor boy collapsed before he could do so
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Apr 10, 2019 9:28 PM

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I really am not a fan of icy Kaguya. Thought it was going to be fun interactions but she is just hurting everyone around her.
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Apr 11, 2019 2:26 AM

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The beginning seemed it will be another stalling chapter, but in the end it was a development. And well out of it the obvious prediction Kaguya getting away or locked up to avoid everything. Might be something connected to her father.
Ice Kaguya is a bully =/
Apr 11, 2019 5:49 AM

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Wait what, what was that at the end???
"At some point, I stopped hoping."
Apr 11, 2019 8:48 AM

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I don't know how to feel about this, sure it was funny chapter but the plot progress is one step forward and 3 steps back , I'm not really feeling this arc tbh, at least the pay off better be great for this arc
Apr 11, 2019 9:16 AM

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Finally got around to read it!

四宮の口元のケチャップがあの四宮の会長の人生を終わらせるとは思わなかった (草)!!

This chapter was fun and scary at the same time! Kaguya (Ice) is dangerous! The way she held his hands yet told him to clean her ketchup was sexy and scary at the same time! Poor Prez was at his limits from sleep deprivation I guess. The way he was trying to buckle himself up with "Kibare... Kibare ore..." before collapsing was not a sight I was expecting. I hope this brings Kaguya (Ice) to her senses. Although the monologues at the end seemed to makd it clear that she wouldn't be changing on her own. :/
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Apr 11, 2019 10:42 AM
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Really hope she can go back to normal, she’s done 180 and has regressed as a character and it isn’t as fun to read
Apr 11, 2019 1:32 PM

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Wow! Just read the english (speed) translations. Yet another Korean to English garbage translation.

気張れ doesn't mean "to be courageous" ffs. Also, imagine Prez calling Kaguya "Idiot", in a situation he is at his wits end and trying not to displease her any further. Seriously, adding random out of character/ situation words don't improve the experience of reading. In case you guys are wondering, he just said 四宮も口元ケチャップ付いたぞ (Your lips too, Shinomiya. You have ketchup on them).

I feel a bit sorry for those who have little to no knowledge of the translations they are reading. I hope you guys read the usual translations when they are up. That's all I have to say.
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Apr 11, 2019 2:10 PM
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Can't believe they are resuing the old jokes again, will lower the score if they continue the same tropes in the following chapters.
Apr 11, 2019 2:18 PM

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I want my old Kaguya-sama back! This toxic relationship isn't fun to watch anymore. I was hoping for some progress this time.

Shirogane fainted? And what "terrible issue?" Is he terminally ill? Is he going to die? xD
I'm joking alright.
Apr 11, 2019 3:44 PM

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I think the ending was a bit disappointing.

I wouldn't say it's the weakest, but it is the weakest of the post fireworks bunch
Apr 11, 2019 3:58 PM

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I actually liked how this chapter contrasted to the first Kaguya Wants to Eat chapter. Hope Miyuki gets well soon though.

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Apr 11, 2019 4:05 PM
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Crappy scanlation. I would recommend waiting for the usual group to scan it.

On-topic though, indeed this relationship has gotten pretty toxic; thankfully the mangaka confirmed on the previous chapter that it's only going to last a volume. It's not a bad one per se, but it doesn't fit the romcom atmosphere that the series has been building up from the beginning.
Apr 11, 2019 4:44 PM
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Also apparently the manga will be on hiatus next week. So we got to wait 2 weeks to find out if prez survived.
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Apr 11, 2019 4:58 PM

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yeah, after the school festival arc this character development is more of a pain in the ass than something good of comedic value. seems like they're just trying to stretch this shit out with any developments at hand
Apr 11, 2019 7:29 PM

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No kidding, did Shirogane really faint?
Now this is becoming a toxic relationship. The way ice kaguya dissed fujiwara and iino pissed me off.
Apr 11, 2019 9:19 PM
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Much better translations finally. I for one enjoyed the comedy. Ice Kaguya is too blunt for her own good though.

Though let's be real. Chika sets herself up for it and Miko is unable to read the room.

At the very least Ice Kaguya seems to be melting and realizing. It might be a case where she had this realization to change a long time ago, and is now remembering those same thoughts.
Apr 11, 2019 11:38 PM

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Fujiwara deserves all the bullying
Apr 12, 2019 7:20 AM
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Also apparently the manga will be on hiatus next week. So we got to wait 2 weeks to find out if prez survived.


You've got to be kidding me... Do we know the reason for it?
Apr 12, 2019 7:30 PM

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Ice-chan is as savage as always. And yeah, this relationship has become kinda toxic one. Ice-chan gave Miyuki too much pressure and I think she realizes that her approach is "not right" and can only hurt people around her. About Miyuki fainted, is it part of the gag or is it because of his lack of sleep or even he had some kind of disease(Nah, maybe not)?
Apr 12, 2019 9:02 PM

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"she can be cute even when she is acting cold" yes Prez, you teached that to Ishigami, that's way he was able to feed her this chapter, btw, that was too cute. But anyway good to know we are exiting the dense protagonist you're not.
"(Ice) Kaguya-san sounds just like Ishigami-kun!" oohh, I see, so that's why I like her LOL
Tsundere Iino? wow

Anyhow, I still am greatifull for this arc and this chapter specifically, this is the turning point for the growth that will make a heathy relashionship possible.
Yes, Ice is awfull, but we already knew that, Kaguya stated that herself and only with the worst that she has, only now, she realizes that she needs to change, 'cause falling in love did not made her a better person, it only showed her cute sides more often. The Shinomiya blood that makes everything you desire yours is still there, untouched, even when she already acknowlegdes that this way is horrible (when she decided to confess). And for Miyuki, he needs to change as well, that inferiority complex is no joke, but, I think that this change will come only after Kaguya resolve herself and becomes his emotional support. She is the one that worsened it (I mean from the begining) so only she will be able to mend it.
This is already the second time that Prez spends nights without sleep because of Kaguya (first was at that TRUE LOVE chapter), this did not happend cause Ice is here, but exactly because she is here that she will be able to do something about it. Or at least I'm still gambling on it.
Apr 13, 2019 3:38 AM

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Ligkonakos said:
-Mahesvara said:
Also apparently the manga will be on hiatus next week. So we got to wait 2 weeks to find out if prez survived.


You've got to be kidding me... Do we know the reason for it?


Yeah no new chapter next week and no new chapter the week after the next chapter.
Apr 13, 2019 4:51 AM
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You've got to be kidding me... Do we know the reason for it?


Yeah no new chapter next week and no new chapter the week after the next chapter.


I want to die, so I'm going home.
Apr 13, 2019 5:27 AM
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This chapter is the perfect setup for when Kaguya-Sama thaws out and visits the Shirogane home and apologize. Furthermore we need to see more of Kei-chan! So far I think we might even see tons of progress in the next chapter.
Apr 13, 2019 6:56 AM

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Fujiwara deserves all the bullying
Glad some people see the truth.
Apr 13, 2019 8:53 PM
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Oh damn. Well at the end of the month it's the inevitable Golden Week break for all manga magazines.

Ugh two weeks... That is really going to suck on a cliffhanger like this!!
Apr 14, 2019 11:31 AM

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He lacked sleep because of Kaguya tho...
It even said so in the beginning of the chapter, he couldn't sleep because of the stress caused by the situation he's going through.
Dont forget that Kaguya went all chibi mode because she couldn't sleep because of prez too. I'm saying they both went through shit lol.
Apr 14, 2019 1:30 PM

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Not really liking how suffering has increased in the manga. Kaguya/Prez both suffering. Few jokes here and there but it kind of feels like the manga will no longer be the same and the story will shift to a more serious tone.

Eventually, i'm sure there will be A LOT of tears. Prez will have to take action into his hands to finally win Kaguya over, but Kaguya will most likely have a VERY TOUGH battle with her father to make Kaguya x Prez a reality. Right now, the only REAL threat is not the misunderstanding between the two, nor the distance and a different college, but Kaguya's father. Oh boy, it will be a tough one, but i'm sure it's still far away. The story should return to being funny for now. I just hope it does soon.
Apr 19, 2019 5:12 PM

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I've thought this arc was pretty bad since it started, but it hasn't even been particularly funny.
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We need more ishigami & miku ship
Apr 25, 2019 1:37 AM

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The amount of overreacting in this thread is ridiculous.

Apr 25, 2019 5:08 AM

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Kaguya is facing herself huh. Good thing it's starting improve again. Ever since the Dual Confessions arc ended, things were too dull. I was even getting bored.

Can anyone tell me which chapter that doctor was in? I remember seeing him in a chapter before but can't remember what happened. Wanna re-read it.
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I think what so many people have missed is that neither Kaguya or the Prez have actually changed. All the important character development that has happened to both of them occurred before the first chapter as seen in the flashbacks. However, even that change pretty much amounted to both of them putting a mask over their worst parts. The central issue that has prevented their relationship from progressing much sooner is they are both denying who they are. Kaguya is a legitimately evil person. She has no qualms in using whatever underhanded means are necessary to achieve her objective, which was perfectly seen in the school election arc. The Prez's problem is that he is not nearly as competent as he presents himself as, which is perfectly seen by all the tutoring lessons Fujiwara has given him in fields outside of academics. It's already clear that both characters are willing to accept the worst part about the other, but they still have been unable to accept the worst part about themselves.
Apr 28, 2020 2:59 PM
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I'm so Hungry, lol... Poor kaguya

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Aug 21, 2020 7:19 PM

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Kaguya really did seem like Ishigami in this chapter.

Hopefully Shirogane collapsing will snap Kaguya out of this.
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Lots of collateral damage this chapter. Ice Kaguya got no chill xD But Shirogane had it bad for real, not to mention Kaguya herself.

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