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May 22, 2018 10:22 AM
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Welp, Tsutsui gets pushed into the waters.

It looks like the characters went outdoors for a little camping/fishing trip. Iroha looked very natural in her hairstyle imo. I actually thought it's kinda refreshing for the episode to take place outdoors rather than the usual school setting.

That Ayado girl should also be more careful with her hands tbh. The part with Itou and Iroha was noticable, feels like they're becoming better friends now.
May 22, 2018 11:32 AM
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Oh so it's camping trip now. I don't care about the anime since I've read the manga before and I know what will happen and I don't want to spoil here XD
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May 22, 2018 1:31 PM
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Okay...i know that Tsutsun got a good bit of flak by some people for his actions or rather non-actions.

But i feel like he got treated unfairly here, i can't see what he did wrong here other than maybe should have spend a bit more time with Igarashi.

He is too nice for his own good but really got shit on this episode for almost nothing.

I feel bad as well for Ayado and Ito.
May 22, 2018 1:36 PM
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Everyone was having a good time at the camping trip, until some dumb drama started happening smh. Ayado sure did made things a lot worse when she said she loves Tsutsui. Now he's going to have to go after Igarashi. Ishino resorting to violence is really annoying. Poor Itou.
May 22, 2018 1:57 PM
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Oh goddamnit they really ended it there? Before Tsutsui and Igarashi reunited and had a night of passion in the woods(hopefully :P)? Bah! Well anyway this was a very paint by numbers episode given last week's setup. Ayado established more flags with Tsutsui hurting Igarashi(and Ito.) And now the drama must be destroyed! Yeah, right.
May 22, 2018 2:03 PM
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WHY IT ENDED HERE

i dont want to wait another week ;w;
May 22, 2018 2:09 PM
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I usually have high tolerance,but even I thought that the drama was cringe worthy this time.

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May 22, 2018 2:44 PM
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Hmm a camping trip with friends and former enemies alike huh. Ishino is not giving up on this opportunity to get close to her target it seems. It was funny seeing Takanashi shrink in the face of Iroha's barrage though. Its nice that Hikari is enjoying himself camping though. Ayado getting ill sure dampened the mood. The problems in their relationship only got bigger with Ayado's confession and finally exploded. This is one big hurdle that the two have to overcome though.
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May 22, 2018 4:48 PM
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It's so annoying that they're all blaming Hikari and making it seem as if he's wholly in the wrong, as if he has an obligation to always just KNOW everything that goes in in Iroha's mind. It's her fault for not saying anything to him, keeping it all to herself, and then calling him an idiot and running off, making him have to chase after her when he's done nothing wrong.
May 22, 2018 7:03 PM
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I'm kinda confused due to the fact that all these people can't get what they want RIP
May 22, 2018 7:42 PM

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i totally was waiting Ito to talk with Tsutsui about him liking Ayado....until needless drama came up. its like didnt Ishino had a talk with Iroha like minutes before about her bottling things too much will make things bad? then they both immediately go "fuck that, let's blame" Tsutsui
May 22, 2018 8:12 PM

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Wow, animation took a big hit this episode. And the drama is stupid. Really no other word for it.

Takanashi got the feminine eyebrows for a second XD
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May 22, 2018 8:35 PM

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Another misundestanding? Again? And now the animation had a new low. In the past I stayed 'til the end with some bad shows, like King's Game, but I'm done with this one. As they say "it's never too late".
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May 22, 2018 9:13 PM

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It's so annoying that they're all blaming Hikari and making it seem as if he's wholly in the wrong, as if he has an obligation to always just KNOW everything that goes in in Iroha's mind. It's her fault for not saying anything to him, keeping it all to herself, and then calling him an idiot and running off, making him have to chase after her when he's done nothing wrong.


That's the problem with most of the girls out there. First talk then act i like to say. Of course the dude is gonna take the shit even if he is not in the wrong.
May 22, 2018 10:23 PM

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The drama is too much every single episode was drama I thought we were getting a break with camping trip Iroha with her new hairstyle but no more drama
May 22, 2018 11:11 PM

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Getting pissy at Tsutsui for tending to a girls burn is pathetic, I know Iroha is a nice enough girl to love him for who he is but this is some insane levels of jealousy.

The animation took a hit it seems but that's hardly surprising considering this IS the studio responsible for Marchen Maedchan from last season and that series ended up on hiatus.

Maybe I should just dump the anime and read the manga instead so I don't need to deal with these shitty cliffhangers.
May 22, 2018 11:21 PM

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God this episode was so melodramatic that I was dying of the cringe. However, I did like Takanashi at the end berating Ayado for her move. I would have done the same thing if it happened in real life since she did not know her time and place to do this shit.
May 23, 2018 12:10 AM

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Oh Iroha, why? Why did you have to lose your cool at this very moment? The timing is just so bad for you to lose your cool you know.
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May 23, 2018 1:41 AM

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Wow, this was a dumb episode, really, really dumb. Not only was the melodrama utterly forced and stupid (seriously, getting jealous because Tsutsui treated Ayado's burn? How stupid is that, especially when everyone else just stood and watched?), but it's once again the ridiculous trope of needlessly blaming the male lead for everything as usual, even when he didn't really do much wrong.

I've been mostly on board with this show so far, but it's definitely starting to get worse by leaning on tired, forced melodrama cliches rather than the nuanced character writing we were seeing early on for Tsutsui and Igarashi. Not overly surprising, actually, but definitely disappointing.
May 23, 2018 4:31 AM

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Oh Iroha, why? Why did you have to lose your cool at this very moment? The timing is just so bad for you to lose your cool you know.


Whoa, long time no write, but cant help it this time.
I cant believe the flak this show gets. Certainly some of it is deserved, but at this point I find it hugely unterrated for what its worth.
I want to put aside how realistic the plot is for the characters to fit in. Its the situations that matter to me.

The problem this episode was even stated in a line from Iroha - its understandable that she got jealous (pretty normal), but the way things are she sees that Ayado is genuinely a good person and likes Tsutsui. I really doubt she feels uncertain at Tsutsui's feelings, but she knows, her relationship faces uphill battle if not outright breakup for the best, when she leaves in 5 or so months.
That is what is eating her and that is why she ran. I bet she is thinking the right thing to do here is make space for the girl who can stay with Tsutsui and make him happy, rather than drag this another 5 months and make it ever harder.
So, does she have the right to demand Tsutsui's belongs to her when she has no future with him? How many of you would do that in her place? I know I did not do it once in basically the same situation (I was the one leaving town while she wanted to stay with her parents) and let my girl go.

My 2 cents ofc.
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May 23, 2018 4:41 AM

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Having them all together in a single place like this is nice and all, but they are one seriously awkward group of people. Best part is how they were all split up into the proper ships at the beginning, I was just grinning like a creep the whole time because it was something I'd been waiting for for a while now... Now if we could juST AVOID MAKING THIS A STUPID LOVE TRIANGLE 8 EPISODE IN... That would be nice...
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May 23, 2018 8:49 AM

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They are at it again with this drama loop nonsense, once again Tsutsui "fucks up" Igarashi gets mad at him once again, she goes away as she makes Tsutsui feel guilty again, and they have the guts to stretch this for 2 episodes. If I were Tsutsui I would have dumped her a long time ago, It was a 6 month "romance" anyway.

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May 23, 2018 9:21 AM

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AlexGK said:
Mascera said:
Oh Iroha, why? Why did you have to lose your cool at this very moment? The timing is just so bad for you to lose your cool you know.


Whoa, long time no write, but cant help it this time.
I cant believe the flak this show gets. Certainly some of it is deserved, but at this point I find it hugely unterrated for what its worth.
I want to put aside how realistic the plot is for the characters to fit in. Its the situations that matter to me.

The problem this episode was even stated in a line from Iroha - its understandable that she got jealous (pretty normal), but the way things are she sees that Ayado is genuinely a good person and likes Tsutsui. I really doubt she feels uncertain at Tsutsui's feelings, but she knows, her relationship faces uphill battle if not outright breakup for the best, when she leaves in 5 or so months.
That is what is eating her and that is why she ran. I bet she is thinking the right thing to do here is make space for the girl who can stay with Tsutsui and make him happy, rather than drag this another 5 months and make it ever harder.
So, does she have the right to demand Tsutsui's belongs to her when she has no future with him? How many of you would do that in her place? I know I did not do it once in basically the same situation (I was the one leaving town while she wanted to stay with her parents) and let my girl go.

My 2 cents ofc.



I Disagree, Igarashi is not the only problem here, almost everyone is expecting Tsutsui to know exactly what's going on her mind and blames him for "fucking up" when the one at fault here is Igarashi because she won't fucking speak her mind and will always act like the victim while making Tsutsui look like the one at fault. This has happened a lot of times already and its getting old. I don't care if she's leaving after 6 months, this is infuriating and Tsutsui shouldn't tolerate this treatment from his "friends".
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May 23, 2018 10:24 AM

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Another useless drama ending... Damn we have to wait one week just to see an obvious end to this story.
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May 23, 2018 1:26 PM

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I feel no sexual attraction
You seem like a pain in the ass
You seem two faced
Dayum that was a critical hit.
May 23, 2018 1:53 PM

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Good lord, cut the guy some slack. Iroha can't speak up and then gets upset when the guy can't read her goddamn mind. I would've dumped her by now. I'm so tired of all this unnecessary drama.
May 23, 2018 5:22 PM
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I have yet to finish the episode but hooooolyyyyy shit is the animation shitty this week.

I like the show, but it's animation quality has not been fun.
May 23, 2018 6:39 PM

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I usually have high tolerance,but even I thought that the drama was cringe worthy this time.


Probably because it happens every god damn episode and you've finally hit the limit. I hit mine about 4 episodes ago, and at this point Im just watching because the OCD in me needs to finish it.

Nothing changes with this series. Every episode is exactly the same. They all know full damn well that Tsutsui doesn't know how to communicate well and doesn't have the same experience as other people do, but they keep bitching about it and it causes shallow drama every time.

I'll outline the next episode for you all.

1) Group does something together.
2) Tsutsui tries his best to be kind to others and enjoy the time they are spending together.
3) Iroha gets all pissy, refusing to communicate the problem with Tsutsui.
4) Tsutsui tries to apologize to Iroha.
5) Iroha and the other girl bash Tsutsui for not knowing what the problem is. They don't make the effort to teach him so it doesn't happen again.
6) Some third party comes in and does something.
7) Iroha realizes she is a bitch and apologizes to Tsutsui, once again not telling him anything.
8) Repeat.
May 23, 2018 7:45 PM
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Even though I have finished the manga, I still gave this episode a 1 and lowered my rating on the series from 7 to 5
May 23, 2018 11:52 PM

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@Shirasho

No,it's rather how it all started this time.Previously it was more or less reasonable and can happen with jealous gf.This time Igarashi just could've talked it out with Ayado instead of makikg such a fuss,she know's that Tsutsui didn't do anyhing wrong,but is blaming him anyway,cause it's easier for her.

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May 24, 2018 6:23 AM

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This episode really rubbed me the wrong way. Whatever point/theme that was attempted to be portrayed to the audience was overdone.
May 24, 2018 4:45 PM

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Iroha is acting all insecure now? It never ends...
May 24, 2018 9:30 PM
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So... this episode was only about the prota hating to be in a camp, everyone poking their noses in another person's relationship and the protas discusing about something they had already talked about. Very dislikeable.
May 24, 2018 11:35 PM
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time flies so fast. we really only have 4 episodes left.
May 25, 2018 5:57 AM

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I just realized it's hard to understand Iroha's behavior without knowing its reason. And with 4 episodes left, I hope they're going to show all of it. Otherwise, people would dislike her.
Well, now it's obvious, Ayado has a crush on Tsutsun (who's with Iroha) and Itou has a crush on Ayado. What a love rectangle it is!
On top of that, Ishino likes Takanashi but is not his type, hahaa... yeah, right...
Is it me or the animation was worse again?
May 25, 2018 7:06 AM
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The CAMP just became a place of AWKEARDNESS- tsuitsui x Ayado moments are killing iroha and Ito alive...

Im just sas though for Tsuitsui- he is always clueless why Iroha became angry at him all of the sudden. If she is just saying whats bothering her or making her angry atleast he could be more careful next time...

For ITo- sad one, he is starting to like ayado but then there is a moment where ayado share a story with them the she confess to iroha that she loves tsuitsui!!!

Ohh yeah! Love sure is complicated! Lets see the remaining episodes!!!
May 25, 2018 11:01 AM

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Just a question to the manga readers, after 8 episodes done do you think that thr whole manga will get adapted in next 4 eps ? Btw I've read the manga but I'm not watching the anime.
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May 25, 2018 11:22 AM
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Just a question to the manga readers, after 8 episodes done do you think that thr whole manga will get adapted in next 4 eps ? Btw I've read the manga but I'm not watching the anime.


How is that even possible? Anime 8 episode = Manga chapter 15
May 25, 2018 11:37 AM

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MOB_ABOMINATOR said:
Just a question to the manga readers, after 8 episodes done do you think that thr whole manga will get adapted in next 4 eps ? Btw I've read the manga but I'm not watching the anime.


How is that even possible? Anime 8 episode = Manga chapter 15
oh i see, well I didn't knew only 15 chapters have been covered. I'm not watching the anime. Btw Thnx.
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Aug 8, 2018 7:30 PM

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While a nice episode, quite a big bunch of drama... which was expect able in this situation but still a shame really! Let's see what's next.
Aug 14, 2018 12:03 AM

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well the camping trip begins and things suddenly get awkward…
Dec 5, 2018 6:13 PM
Another awful episode. The drama is over the place lmao. Iroha being jealous to that extent is so stupid...Ishino and Takanashi can all just go fuck themselves. This is so frustrating to watch.
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Jan 19, 2019 5:02 PM
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You love her, she loves him, and he loves somebody else, you just can't win.....face it, Love Stinks (apologies to J Geils Band)

Mar 27, 2019 9:28 PM

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Relationships are difficult. Particularly for the three otaku in this show, who just don't pick up on some of the non-verbal cues and lack the ability to be forthright and express their feelings. And when they do, like Ayado, they just seem to do it at exactly the wrong time or in the worst way.

And although she isn't an otaku, Igarashi shares some of these characteristics. Of course (benefit of a couple of decades of hindsight here) she should be more explicit at sharing her feelings with Tsutsui (in part because he's so dense), but if she does that, she might let some of the things slip that she's kept hidden thus far. She clearly is a lot more fragile than she appeared in episode one.
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Apr 5, 2019 12:14 AM

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Soo bad. The blonde jock and Ishino are the only ones with sense. Iroha is so beautiful so she gets a free pass no matter what. The others are trash...I guess just the male and female dweebs. Can't stand them.
Jun 11, 2020 5:32 AM

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The moment they try to bring this Ayato into the friend group she just trashes through all of them cutting relationships and being an annoyance to everyone, heh.

Cant that blonde friend of tsui just take this annoying girl with him and both disappear from the show
Mar 19, 2021 5:04 AM

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Guess we know who's karen in this show, Ishino. Somebody need to purge this *****
May 1, 2021 4:08 PM

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"Hey why are you upset"

"I'm going to run out without saying what it is"

"Hey why is she upset"

"I'm going to kick you because you haven't figured it out"

This is literally "I expect the people around me to be mind readers" the anime
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Drama episode. Had to happen.

Tbh, nothing here was out of the ordinary. It was the usual suspects that made an appearance. More so hope for a heartwarming resolution to be executed since we all kinda know there will be one.

It is a little annoying how Iroha expects Tsutsui to just know everything, but I think that is the thing with relationships, the failure to getting to understand as if you are not connected enough, something silly like that. Idk why people are getting upset. Isn't this just normal relationship bs? Well, I've never been in one myself oof.
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the one thing i find funny is that people seem to forget these people are all teenagers. because it is too much drama over a little situation, but i’ve been sixteen before and i could see this happening then.
i wonder if we have so much shoujo made in high school because that’s the time of life all of this happens… so it’s acceptable to write all this drama over relationships. we do feel like the world is ending over so many silly things at that age.
one thing that bugs me is how everyone expects tsutsui to know what’s going on even if he clearly states he’s bad with people and has no experience with relationships. the guy barely has friendship experience up until this group of friends. so they say she feels burdened about it. i can understand too how frustrated she feels. and that’s probably why she’s acting up like this. iroha knows that a lot of what she’s feeling just has no answer. she loves him because he’s kind, but it’s that kindness that can make people get confused about how they feel about him and she gets jealous. she trusts him, but that doesn’t make the bad feeling go away.
one thing i like about this anime in the end is that despite all the teenage drama, people talk. and when they talk, they get to understand each other. that’s pretty healthy for a bunch of teenagers.
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