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Oct 3, 2018 5:41 AM
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Very early and informative chapter.

So apparently it was indeed Toki( Odens wife) who had the ability to send people on a time travel.

We also learned more about the circumstances of Wano and what happened to Kinemons troupe, but I guess we will get an even more detailed version later. Preferably, in form of a flashback.

And especially interesting, they mentioned a samurai who was hold in high regards by Roger and Whitebeard. Well, I'm super curious now.

Last but not least, they dropped the date when they want to raid Kaidos hideout. HYPE !

There will be a break next week :/
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Oct 3, 2018 11:54 PM
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This chapter was okay. I had a feeling about something such as the Time Time ability or fruit whatsoever. I guess I am okay with it. But I feel like having time to be involved feels out of place. Anyways what's done is done. I expect the war to be very crazy. I mean Raid? I highly doubt a raid will be enough. And I hope to see Kaido's power. I mean The Strongest Creature needs to show his full on power in general. Even though we seen a little bit of it.
Oct 4, 2018 12:01 AM
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FMmatron said:

And especially interesting, they mentioned a samurai who was hold in high regards by Roger and Whitebeard. Well, I'm super curious now.


Pretty sure they meant Oden.
Oct 4, 2018 12:05 AM
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Crazy Crazy this Toki-sama,what did she do to Hiyori?,Where the hell is she?

Does any of these events have something to do with IM-Sama? that's one broken ass Devil Fruit.

And what are the Straw Hats gonna do in these 2 weeks or are we going to get the rest of Reverie?? doubt it though.

hmmm,many questions as always but let's wait and see what the Genius behind the work itself will do.
Oct 4, 2018 12:18 AM
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I’m guessing Toki will eventually come back.

A very interesting and informative chapter overall.
Oct 4, 2018 12:32 AM
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so, only to the future, and not from the past, which she already done few times.... kind of letdown just usual fruit power, but still interesting... now facing kaidou!
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Oct 4, 2018 12:43 AM
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As I expected, the fruit only has forward traveling power, there guys, I told you Oda knew what he was doing.

Now what will they do for 2 weeks?
Oct 4, 2018 12:53 AM
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If I had to guess, I would say that something will happen (*cough* Luffy *cough* Zoro *cough*) that will make them start their plans earlier.
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Oct 4, 2018 1:27 AM
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There are 3 silhouettes in one of the pages, and one of them looks a bit like Jack. The Disasters?
Oct 4, 2018 4:20 AM

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I guess it's almost time for Straw Hat Grand Fleet to mark on history and lead to the very big incident they were talking about in chapter 800

can't wait
Oct 4, 2018 5:57 AM
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I don't get it, if she have that kind of power why doesn't she send kaidou and orochi to the future and prepared a trap for them with some skill fighters
Oct 4, 2018 6:19 AM

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Ok looks like the time travel isn't too convoluted, just Oden's wife's DF power. Very interesting chapter that gives some history behind what's going on, as well as explaining how Kinemon's group got split up. I have a strong feeling Luffy will do something that'll force them to enact their plans earlier than scheduled. He doesn't seem to be the person to trust to successfully keep a plan like this secret for 2 weeks. I'm hyped for this raid though.
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Oct 4, 2018 6:32 AM

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Saithas said:
I don't get it, if she have that kind of power why doesn't she send kaidou and orochi to the future and prepared a trap for them with some skill fighters


The same reason as to why Law can't simply just split Kaido into pieces using his fruit ability and call it a day.

Or maybe certain circumstances just prevented her from doing it.
Oct 4, 2018 6:42 AM
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Very interesting and informative chapter. Lady Toki's Time-Time ability cannot send anyone back into the past and only sends a person into the future. I also like the panels that showcased how Kinemon's group split up, because it felt nostalgic seeing those arcs again (even though I didn't like Punk Hazard arc very much but it's still a relevant arc).

Kinemon stated that their forces need to be 5000 strong. I'm feeling confident that Oda-sensei would bring back the Straw Hat Grand Fleet in this arc sometime in the future. It's already composed of thousands of people who are under Luffy's command. And Boss Jimbe should be catching up to Wano as well, very soon. Oda is just setting up everything for the appropriate situation and excellent timing. :)
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Hey guys , i wanted to ask a question
In this chapter , when the samurai stand before the flaming castle and when they are bowing to lady toki , there is a fourth samurai wearing a round hat.Has this character been introduced before , am i missing something? Im asking because his hat reminds me of the hat that the guy who was drinking with Crocus wore. He is also absent when the samurai finish their time travel
Oct 4, 2018 9:44 AM

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^No, he's not been introduced before, and yeah, he's probably the same guy that was shown drinking with Crocus. Maybe he didn't travel to the future or was sent to a different time. He was right there in page 9, but not anymore in the next one.



Sometimes I get impressed not by Oda, but by the people that manage to find this kind of stuff relating to chapters that were released eons ago.

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Oct 4, 2018 10:48 AM

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wow, lots of information in this chapter!
as I figured, it was the Time Time Fruit that helped them travel to the future. and since they can't travel back in time, that will prevent a lot of possible plot holes that could have come up.
the main plot for the arc is starting to be established!! can't wait!!
Oct 4, 2018 12:38 PM
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Great chapter!

How Kin'emon and crew traveled through time is a very simple concept, and the exact opposite of convoluted, and that's good. Lot of people jumping the gun last week thinking One Piece just became Steins;Gate.
Oct 4, 2018 1:35 PM
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An interesting chapter, very informative on the history of Wano despite missing information on Orochi's betrayal of Oden. Curious on what direction Oda is taking with Zoro now that he's lost the group.... again.

I feel like one important detail is that Momonosuke has a sister and yet we have no idea where she is. Toki specifically said "Take care of Momonosuke" and not mentioning Hiyori. So I'm guessing Hiyori did not go into the future with everyone, and we could potentially see her as an adult. Or, if Hiyori did get sent to the future, she got separated somehow. Got lost, and goes under the name Tama. But Hiyori actually being Tama is unlikely.
Oct 4, 2018 5:13 PM
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Really interesting that Kaidou is in Onigashima..tying it together with Momotarou folklore.

This "open up the border" also reminds me of how Japan used to be before the Meiji Restoration. It's pretty much closed off to outside (other countries) as well. At that time, there's a really big change. So I expect something big will happen to OP's world after this arc. So...much...hype...Gosh!!
Oct 4, 2018 11:35 PM
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Can´t say anymore than this was competent. Cautiously excited for what´s to come, but half expecting to have Kaido being beaten off screen with all the post timeskip letdowns.
Oct 5, 2018 1:12 AM

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just like I predicted, there was a devil fruit involved. and it is confirm Lady Toki had the power (Toki Toki no Mi). as far as I know, she can only send people to future, but can't send them to the past. by this, I am sure she can only do it one way trip.

and I am a bit confused on page 7 (after the dog part). their face switched from joy to crying in a instant.

is this the right way to read the page?
Oct 5, 2018 1:46 AM
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SamBlack said:
wow, lots of information in this chapter!
as I figured, it was the Time Time Fruit that helped them travel to the future. and since they can't travel back in time, that will prevent a lot of possible plot holes that could have come up.
the main plot for the arc is starting to be established!! can't wait!!


DIO confirmed in One Piece.

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Oct 5, 2018 2:05 AM
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Oct 5, 2018 2:08 AM
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Am I the only one who find the double page where Kinemon tells about Oden's death very weird. Like Nami reacting before him telling he died. Or they had an ellipse in a really weird time, and didn't tell us a part of the story that should justify their reaction.


same as me , that page was weird..probably the scanlation miss a page ?
Oct 5, 2018 3:28 AM
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Hmmmm.. I just have 1 question running in my mind...
Does kaido know that kinemon and the gang is alive? Coz Jack is looking for raizo in Zou right? Why kaido didnt tell orochi that they are alive? Coz orochi believes that they are ghost already.
Oct 5, 2018 6:28 AM
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Hmmmm.. I just have 1 question running in my mind...
Does kaido know that kinemon and the gang is alive? Coz Jack is looking for raizo in Zou right? Why kaido didnt tell orochi that they are alive? Coz orochi believes that they are ghost already.


Why would you tell your dog his toy that pressumingly broke is still ok. He either won´t understand and should he´d bite you at best.
Oct 5, 2018 11:44 AM

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So tokitoki fruit..since the mother died..maybe someone else has it now or maybe no one has found it yet like ace's fruit... what not thinking of this though
Oct 5, 2018 4:56 PM

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Great chapter covering all the backstory we needed.

Glad to see that time travel was kept simple and probably can't happen again unless Lady Toki is alive somehow.

It felt like they kinda skipped some story about Oden, we just see Inuarashi talk about him and then Kinemon mentioned how he caught Roger and Whitebeard's eye and almost instantly they say that he died and everyone is in tears. I don't know but it sorta felt like there were panels skipped there. Like the transition was too sudden.

Was nice to see how Kinemon and co split up.

I'm more interested in these 9 sheaths and who they are given that we know only 4 of them or 5 is Momo is supposed to be one of them.

Kaidou in 2 weeks? I'm excited. XD
Oct 5, 2018 5:22 PM

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I wonder what they'll do in the 2 weeks time.
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Oct 6, 2018 5:35 AM

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It was weird how everyone started crying. One second they were okay, the other everyone was crying. Somehow that didn't fit there.

So apparently the time-traveling is limited. Everyone was worried last week, but now we know that it only works in one way. There are still some things we do not know. Where's Kinnemon's sister, the other 4-5 samurai, and what happened to Toki? I also wonder if Toki had done something other very important thing using her power.

It was nice seeing how Kinnemon ended up on Punk Hazard. I almost forgot how they met with Luffy, it's been so long since then.

2 weeks, and they invade Kaido's island? In One Piece that's a lot of time, especially when they're in the territory of the enemy. I don't know what they're going to do for 2 weeks, and if Luffy or Zoro will start an all-out war way before the end of that 2 weeks. These kind of plans don't often go as planned. We'll probably see Jack and the other disasters soon. I'm excited!
Oct 6, 2018 5:53 AM

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It was weird how everyone started crying. One second they were okay, the other everyone was crying. Somehow that didn't fit there.


I hope we will get a flashback about that part Kinemon skipped out.

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Oct 6, 2018 6:05 AM
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So what now? they're going to infiltrate Kaido's place in 2 weeks, but what will they be doing until then?

Also, i hope that we'll see more of the reverie.
Oct 6, 2018 6:08 AM

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It was weird how everyone started crying. One second they were okay, the other everyone was crying. Somehow that didn't fit there.

I also thought that was weird. At first I thought I wasn't reading the panels in the correct order...
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AshitaNoJonas said:
Slim_Lamie said:
It was weird how everyone started crying. One second they were okay, the other everyone was crying. Somehow that didn't fit there.

I also thought that was weird. I first I thought I wasn't reading the panels in the correct order...
Kinemon Told them about oden's full past or something, but Oda probably doesn't want us to know all the details atm because it will probably be better revealing that later in the story.
Oct 7, 2018 3:36 PM

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I'm loving all the context and all the information that is being presented for now in this arc.
Excited about what is gonna happen next.
Oct 7, 2018 6:01 PM

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Ahhh! break!

This is really staring to light up, invading the castle should be awesome.
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Oct 7, 2018 6:21 PM

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Finally knowing that events up to now all started from punk hazard in 2012, and it's reaching the end really makes me hyped. I bet Wano will be long though, there are still many things to be explained and backstories to have.
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Oct 9, 2018 12:17 PM

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Cant forget how people bashed Oda in the previous chapter for introducing a time devil fruit saying how it wasn't fitting either in the whole OnePiece world or how it would be completely overpowered and what not. Come on.. its Goda we are talking about here, the way he presented the power of the fruit was really satisfying for me personally as it closed a lot of potential 'plot holes'
Oct 12, 2018 2:16 PM

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Little reminder but we are 1/5th of the way till One Piece reaches THE BIG 1000!
Oct 18, 2018 10:56 AM

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An amazing chapter indeed, as the previous few ones, too. The weak (for the standards of the latest chapters and the Reverie arc) beginning paved the way for some really interesting chapters and the whole story will be really amazing from now on! Anyway, almost no chapter had any "super" beginning. It makes sense.

The only thing I consider a drawback, though a little one, is the fact that a time-power has been introduced in the series, whereas there might be some other ways to tell the same story. Recently, I discovered a post in which the writer mentions that Kinemon and co. could have traveled through time with the assist of a conservation power. What I mean is that the characters of the past could have been in a hibernating cryostasis-like state and waken up in the present. I'd really prefer this version. After all, the fruit itself is the time-fruit, not the future-fruit. Never mind! I strongly trust the talent of Oda and his goals regarding the story!
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I'm sure Toki knows what will happen with the upcoming battle, hopefully no lives will be lost!
Dec 20, 2018 2:40 AM

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Yeah... Looks like another arc I can gloss over.
Jan 1, 2020 4:01 AM

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Loving the information we got this chapter. Makes sense they time travelled to the future this way then. Really mysterious this Toki, I wonder what more we will learn about her.
Jun 15, 2020 11:10 PM

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Aye, going full Momotaro.
Nov 12, 2022 12:08 PM

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Seeing as you can only travel to the future, it doesn't seem like it will be very convoluted. She probably came from the void century.

Also, it seems like Kaido is hiding stuff from the Shogun.




Dec 24, 2022 9:21 PM

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can't help but love the chapters that are just pure lore dropping
Jun 10, 2023 10:29 PM

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wow so really Wano has been getting built up to ever since Punk Hazard... heavy man, heavy
uh oh... it's Luffy's job to keep quiet about the plan LOL
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This is one of the few times Luffy has actually sat through someone's backstory, his usual philosophy is, "i don't care what brought us here, all I care is helping out my friends do what they want now".

Luffy's come a long way

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