| Another day, Another harem thread.. @Manaban... You know the drill... yadda yadda |
| OSHIT WHADDUP, THE DUAL-HARAMBE MONKEY-MAN STRIKES AGAIN |
| There are also pseudo harems with male side characters but they are clearly less attractive or active as the MC like in Steins;Gate. |
zalJan 14, 2018 12:50 AM
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| Its simple if the number of girls who like the mc is >2, its harem.... |
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| Welcome back homie, tbh, I didn't even see that this thread was yours Obligatory @Manaban OT: Well, do more than 3 female character loves the MC? Then yeah. Though, tbh, I would solidify it when they are actually married, gtfo Nisekoi. |
 𝔚𝔞𝔫𝔫𝔞 𝔱𝔬𝔲𝔠𝔥 𝔶𝔬𝔲, 𝔚𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔦𝔫' 𝔶𝔬𝔲 𝔴𝔦𝔱𝔥 𝔞𝔩𝔩 𝔪𝔶 𝔪𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱 ______________________ |
| but we already have We Without Wings |
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| I think its important to distinguish also based on the amount of tropes used. because yes Tomoya is surrounded by girls and a few of them like him but Clannad doesnt focus on them chasing him around. plus there is main girl Same with ah my goddess he is surrounded by girls but main girl is his one and only compared to shows like zero no tsukaima where he is open to the possibility of another girl and focuses greatly on them chasing him around. from time to time its possible that he might get with another girl (for real). plus hes an accidental pervert they are all harem but one is greater than the other coz he touches boob, gets to hold panties, lives with the girls, they fight over him, Saito lives a great life with his waifus unlike the other losers who only think of one girl List of some of the harem tropes |
| Good lord thats a lot of text The show just needs to have 3 or more girls/guys romantically or sexually interested in one guy/girl to be considered a harem now if that harem is focused on or not is a different question really in terms of how much screen time each girl/guy gets and if its really prevalent or not. For example you have harems that are hardly focused on to the point like if its not a harem such as To Aru, Clannad, Code Geass and Toradora a few of which you mentioned in your post Then you have shows which are very harem narrative focused like Zero no Tsukaima, To Love Ru, DXD and OreImo |
DeknijffJan 14, 2018 1:21 AM
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| If we were to rank the most roundabout meaningless threads for you to spread your 2-6 ratio orgy kink this has to rank pretty highly. But just for fun let's punch some holes in there. 1. You unironically used Dragonball as an example of a series that managed multiple couples. A series that is not known for the romance in addition it took them a minimum of 200 episodes and like 3 times skips to establish those 3 couples. So if you're saying romance anime with hundreds of episodes should be more common that's just not happening. Unless it's hardly a focus to the point it's no longer a romance anime. 2. Jealousy, especially in harems, can be easily played to a comedy aspect and won't require an entire cour just to introduce the characters for the series. 3. Let's be honest the things people claim to hate in harems would only be made worse if there were more of them in a single series. No progress , double dense mc action, duplicate dere types assuming they don't just use every dere type every series, etc. So using your idea of "well people here hate harems anyway right?" is basically the equivalent of saying "I want harems to cater to my specific kink to such extremes that nobody can tolerate harems anymore." 4. Not to mention you'd have to have 2 separate endings unless they like split screen it which would beg the question why not just make a second series in the same universe? |
GamerDLMJan 14, 2018 1:22 AM
| there's only one kind of harem and that's the shitty harem |
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| I know I'm watching a harem anime when there is a good guy MC interacting with (usually helping out) different characters one by one and accomplishing some special chemistry and bonds between them. Also keeping things fresh as they are focusing on different characters every episodes (and may throw in some fan-service or comedy). Saekano, Oreimo, Monogatari, To love ru, also the first 10 episodes of SAO, are some major example of harem anime that utilize their strength. I don't know if I should define anime that possess that appeal as harem anime. But I think harem is kind of a negative term in this community, so I should take a narrower definition. For example like it's only a harem anime when there are at least 3 love interests towards the MC. Then anime like Demi-chan, Steins Gate and Papakiki will fall out of the definition since there is a lack of love interest, even though they feel like harem anime (in a good way). |
| There are two related phenomena both with the same name: what lies beyond "love triangle" once you go to three or more, and taking a protagonist of one gender and surrounding them with many attractive members of the opposite gender, deliberately for your audience of the first gender. Which actually gives you three categories; things with the first property, things with the second property, and things with both. |
| 3 or more love interests = harem. That's pretty much it, really. As for what kind of harem, that is obviously dependent on how things go. |
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| What anime and novel needs are the kind of Harem like in Sevens (Emperor Lyle Walt) Ninth Generation Head: (Fifth… harems really are nothing but trouble. If this was how it was going to be, I’d have preferred being an adventurer.) (Viscount Fredricks Walt) Fifth Generation Head (；゜д゜): “That’s why I told you! Harems aren’t a game! I said it! Let yourself be worn out, and you let your guard down. And what that leads to is nothing but trouble… do your best, you can do it Lyle!” (Knight Crassel Walt) Second Generation Head (；・∀・): “Boys are those that always dream. That’s why, that’s why… harems must by fluffy, with the sweet taste of candy, or it’s no good!” (Baronet Sleigh Walt) Third Generation Head ( ゜∀゜): “Harem stories are no good if they can’t give dreams to the good girls and boys! I’m worried that Lyle may dry up lol.” And Sevens shows characters with their own harem and partner, plus it's a psychological and political harem with badass girls...That's why Sevens is regarded as the No.1 Harem Webnovel... Sevens is the best example of perfect harem and not yours. |
youseikiJan 14, 2018 4:04 AM
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| Dont pretend OP, you dont care about our opinions, you never quote to anyone in your threads, you dont want discussion you just smashing one post from your head after another. I'm wondering when MAL start to consider spam of threads as real spam, same as char limit. If we can be banned for evading char limit, and it is considered a s spam why not this ? But hey first mods need to actually read forum. |
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| Everything with more than one girl going after a guy during the entire anime is a harem. |
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CoolitzHubertXVI said: Most MCs in Textbook Harems will be oblivious or ignore the approaches from most of the girls in his Harems, because if the MC chooses one, then the rest will stop their approaches and respect the MC-Heroine coupling and not disturb the MC's relationship with his girlfriend anymore. If only that was true, but sadly the girls will still keep pushing on the MC even after he chose. That's why harems are garbage. |
That description above might become mixed up with CGDCT genre, but on the other hand, nobody would agree that an Anime would not be classified as Harem just because the MC has one main girl or official girlfriend/lover. Try telling that to MAL's database >_> though honestly lowkey kind of don't mind this thread. Reading it, I'm not really seeing anything particularly annoying (aside from "it's another harem thread from this guy" which is inherently annoying at this point) and honestly given how many people try to figure out exactly what constitutes a harem to begin with as is, something actually useful might come of it For once, Hubert made a thread that doesn't make me want to shave my balls with an ice pick, so kudos to him ------------------- wait no nevermind CoolitzHubertXVI said: Light Novels in the Fantasy and Action genres should also feature less harem settings for one Male MC and more on either of these 2 alternative options below : 1. That new LN/Anime series should focus on 2 Male Characters each getting their own Harems instead, with 1st Protagonist getting 4 girls and 2nd Protagonist getting 3 girls, as an example. With this setting, most people who hate Single Male Harems out of jealousy at that one guy will not feel jealous if it is 2 Males each getting their own group of cuties. This kind of 2 Harem Group setting is perfect to be incorporated into a series with Action and Fantasy genres. 2. That new LN/Anime series should focus on Multiple Couples instead. An example of an Action Anime with Multiple Couples is the current season's show, Darling in the Franxx. Old animes with such a setting is Dragon Ball Z, with up to 3 Main Couples involving 3 male characters, Goku, Vegeta, and Krillin. Even if the romance element is just a minor sub-plot, such a setting would be a million times better than Harem crap. Most people here on MAL do hate Harems, right ? As for me, I only hate Harems if it's just one Male character getting a Harem. If it's 2 or more males each getting their own respective harems, like in the manga, World's End Harem, and like in the Visual Novel, Venus Blood Ragnarok, then I can accept them happily, as my main point is : I hate it if only 1 male character in any Anime or fictional stories gets all the romance or luck with ladies. fucking goddammit all |
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| Lol I actually like your interpretation. Kudos. |
| Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
| The only kind of pseudo-harem is one where the other guy gets a girl!!! Unacceptable!! In all seriousness it was actually a decent read, not a bad thread. Maybe minus the whole "best friend gets a girl" and "multiple couple" part. I mean these are basically non-harem anime, so there's almost no relevance to the topic at hand. Harem is defined as having 3 or more characters that are potentially a love interest that surrounds the main character. As such if a large portion of such an anime is such that the main character is not surrounded by girls, then it isn't a harem. |
| If your favourite character is Tsutsukakushi Tsukiko, you are my soul mate. Been a long time since I've been here, I'll continue expressing myself freely and believe everyone should too. My MAL Interview |
| trash tier harem : Mc is beta cuck who chose a disgusting tsundere at the end |
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| I think by your very own definition, you can have two male MCs and still let it be harem... Can it be applied for 3/4 male MCs too? |
| clannad is a harem but it isn't labelled as one for some reason. |
Edward Elric > your waifu  |
| 3 or more girls either living with the MC or falling in love with him. There should also be no other male characters except for one butt monkey. |
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| YES! Moar harem threads! You never get tired, do you? Holy fuck that's a great wall of text. I sincerely applaud your dedication to harems.  I'll humor you. Take 3+ girls and make them attracted to some brickhead MC for little to no reason. Done. |
| Three or more girls who have a romantic interest in the male lead is a harem. Only two girls with a romantic interest in the male lead is a love triangle. |
| Pseudo harem seems to be a better fit since a lot harems don't have any actual relationships, either of a romantic or sexual nature. Such as infinite stratos , for example. Then there are series that have a main couple and/or love triangle with a few orbiters, and those don't go anywhere (okusama) |
| A new Hubert Harem thread and I missed it? Damn. Oh well, I'm sure I'll be around for the next 10 iterations of this thread |
-Spades- said: A new Hubert Harem thread and I missed it? Damn. Oh well, I'm sure I'll be around for the next 10 iterations of this thread They are all the same, you didn't miss much. OP is rolling his own show. |
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Swagernator said: -Spades- said: A new Hubert Harem thread and I missed it? Damn. Oh well, I'm sure I'll be around for the next 10 iterations of this thread They are all the same, you didn't miss much. OP is rolling his own show. He needs his own forum subtopic lol. |
| At least three of the girls have to have some form of romantic interest in the mc is what I mostly have feel like what a harem is. |
| The MC has 3 or more girls he could easily get with even though he’s a shy loser |
| look at the genres or seeing there is 1 male character & 3-4+ females= harem |
| I'm going to say this nicely, but it honestly seems like you make too many threads about harem... You don't have to deconstruct the word harem down until it's nothing but a pile of ashes. If you have 3 or more characters liking the same mc, it's probably harem. You look like you already know everything there is to know about harem (considering all your harem related posts), anyway. |
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