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Nov 19, 2017 11:37 PM
#1
To be heartbroken. I am not sure I am ready to see this. I really am not. I cannot bring myself to think that this anime will come to an end. As someone who once abhorred the existence of this anime, just thinking that it will be coming to an end is just way too painful for me. All I know that a story that made me experience all the human emotions someone can experience will cease to exist. I won't shy away from admitting that the anime has not maintained the level it reached during the SA and FS arcs. But it doesn't take anything away from everything it has given to the fans over the years. I am earnestly hoping that the SS arc will reach the same heights or even better those of SA and FS arcs. |
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Nov 20, 2017 6:40 AM
#2
I read the manga, but the start is good, the middle dragged a little, but the Climax is SA/FS level imo |
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Nov 20, 2017 7:12 AM
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Nov 20, 2017 11:19 AM
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Nov 20, 2017 11:31 AM
#5
SA and FS arcs were masterpiese(especially FS). Rakuyou was weaker compared to them(And compared to most of other serious arcs as well). But my expectations from SS arc is still high even if I don't read manga. I hope that it can meet my expectaiton. I think that story will meet but I am worried about animation. Let's see what will happen. We will witness the end of a LEGEND. This legend definetly deserves the best final. |
Nov 20, 2017 11:39 AM
#6
it's super generic basic shonen arc, pretty bad. |
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Nov 20, 2017 11:45 AM
#7
medium expectations, shogun assassination and farewell shinsengumi were everything i wanted out of this shows finale but then rakyou was just kind of in the middle and lacking in memorable moments so im not going to get my hopes up too much. I also do not have high hopes the animation will be up to par for the task so my expectations are actually a tad below medium. All i want is a good final fight hopefully with takasugi participating, and all the characters getting some sort of closure |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Nov 20, 2017 1:29 PM
#8
I'm not ready for this! who is cutting onions inside my house? |
Nov 20, 2017 1:56 PM
#9
Really hope Fujita Yoichi returns as director... STOP WORKING ON OSOMATSU-SAN!!!! |
Nov 20, 2017 3:52 PM
#10
I'm not falling for this again! xD This is probably not going to be the end either.. lol |
Nov 20, 2017 4:43 PM
#11
VampireLine said: I can see Trust and Betrayal like anime OVA/Movie for Gintokis past comping a few years laterI'm not falling for this again! xD This is probably not going to be the end either.. lol |
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Nov 20, 2017 4:54 PM
#12
You guys hoping they go the Route with SA, FS, or RDB with animation? SA:The highest point in animation is better than FS and RDB higher's points, but you have to sacifrice so Episodes(like Episodes 303 and 306) FS: Where the lowest point in animation is better than SA and RDB's animation RDB: Where it's somewhere in the middle(doesn't have the Highest Points in animation, but doesn't have the lowest points in animation) Keep in mind, SS is like Yoshiwara in Flames, Kabuki 4 Devas, and Rakuyou level action(with the Boss fights, and Fodder fights) back to back to back |
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Nov 20, 2017 7:37 PM
#13
High expectations on this since it's the final arc, another entry(hopefully) of Gintama in top 10(salt thread will intensify) and because the characters from previous season from years ago (Ane and Mone, Tama and Kintama to name a few) will be back So pretty good. Draconix814 said: Really hope Fujita Yoichi returns as director... STOP WORKING ON OSOMATSU-SAN!!!! Second this, or Shinji Takamatsu. |
AntagonizedNov 20, 2017 7:40 PM
Nov 21, 2017 6:12 AM
#14
Get ready for #1 anime at MAL Top Anime? |
Nov 21, 2017 4:00 PM
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Antagonized said: Draconix814 said: Really hope Fujita Yoichi returns as director... STOP WORKING ON OSOMATSU-SAN!!!! Second this, or Shinji Takamatsu. Actually, Shinji Takamatsu is still on the team for sound design, and he hasn't had any directing role for 200+ episodes now, so I doubt that possibilty. It seems the biggest influence in pretty much everything for Gintama's anime is Fujita Yoichi, so he should be the one to direct and finish it off, but it could be that he just finds himself more comfortable with comedies like Osomatsu-san and Gintama [former]. Really sad, because even though I have no idea what exactly is wrong with the new season, I really don't want those issues to plague final ark, of all things. I also happen to think the new director is rushing to get new content out as fast as possible too, which bugs me, to say the least. |
Nov 22, 2017 1:28 AM
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Detective1412 said: I'm ready for the shitstorm it's gonna bring once again lol.Get ready for #1 anime at MAL Top Anime? |
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Nov 22, 2017 9:33 PM
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joe_g7 said: one last shitstorm :(Detective1412 said: I'm ready for the shitstorm it's gonna bring once again lol.Get ready for #1 anime at MAL Top Anime? |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Nov 23, 2017 4:03 AM
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JizzyHitler said: shogun assassination and farewell shinsengumi were everything i wanted out of this shows finale but then rakyou was just kind of in the middle and lacking in memorable moments I can respect your opinion but I highly disagree, RDB has more memorable moments for me than those 2 arcs combined. |
Nov 23, 2017 4:20 AM
#19
Well like I've said a bunch of times by now, if Gintama is going to try to be serious then it better be on the level of SA or FS (or the 2nd film if that counts), otherwise it'll only feel like a waste of time and potential that could've rather been spent on comedy episodes instead But if it's really the grand finale of Gintama then I can only hope that it'll manage to somehow close the lid on the whole thing in a somewhat satisfying way; I'm just not sure how exactly one would do that considering the absurd extent and contents of the series |
Nov 23, 2017 9:36 AM
#20
HaXXspetten said: Silver Soul is a little different, in that the First half is gag comedy(if you saw the key visual, you'll know that a lot of comedy character are coming back( mixed with action for the most part, while the 2nd half of the arc would have a tone more close to SA, FS, and RDBWell like I've said a bunch of times by now, if Gintama is going to try to be serious then it better be on the level of SA or FS (or the 2nd film if that counts), otherwise it'll only feel like a waste of time and potential that could've rather been spent on comedy episodes instead But if it's really the grand finale of Gintama then I can only hope that it'll manage to somehow close the lid on the whole thing in a somewhat satisfying way; I'm just not sure how exactly one would do that considering the absurd extent and contents of the series |
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Nov 23, 2017 2:32 PM
#21
I'm rather highly expectant of this (final?) season for Gintama tbh I'm pretty sure my personal issues with the Arc should be "fixed" - better flow, gags working better. The story itself is fine, and the inclusion of the (seriously large) cast is done pretty well too. ie, most my issues with this arc falls under the curse of "weekly chapter updates" lol Plus, I don't really expect much original animation to be included - aside from animating the more serious fights. The story's quite large and the animation team won't have some ridiculous amount of episodes to span across. Not to mention there are fifty million new flashbacks they're gonna have to deal with too. I mean, I'd be glad if they manage some seriously well-done animation, but I don't expect that for the majority of the scenes. -- Basically, so long as they don't deviate much from the comic, I don't expect it to be poorly adapted. And since the story itself ain't a wreck, it shouldn't lessen the impact any, even with the likelihood of the final battle-whatever with Utsuro likely following the shonen tradition of anti-climatic. I do expect to cry tho I'm gonna be an empty shell for at least a week, unable to even look at fanworks in my despair |
Nov 26, 2017 3:16 PM
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How many episodes do you think that will have Silver soul arc? I really hope that there will have at least around 50. |
Nov 26, 2017 5:41 PM
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Alberrti said: rakyou was about half the chapter count and adapted 4 chapters or so translating to 12 episodes.How many episodes do you think that will have Silver soul arc? I really hope that there will have at least around 50. So don't expect more than 24 episodes, it'd probably be downright disastrous to do any more. Maybe, just maybe a 3 cour if they pace it right but i highly doubt that would work. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Nov 26, 2017 9:45 PM
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Nov 27, 2017 5:11 PM
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JizzyHitler said: Alberrti said: rakyou was about half the chapter count and adapted 4 chapters or so translating to 12 episodes.How many episodes do you think that will have Silver soul arc? I really hope that there will have at least around 50. So don't expect more than 24 episodes, it'd probably be downright disastrous to do any more. Maybe, just maybe a 3 cour if they pace it right but i highly doubt that would work. I tried to do my best, but if it's 2 cour I expect the pacing to be like this Episode 1=Chapters 596-598 Episode 2=Chapters 599 and 600 Episode 3=Chapters 601 and 602 Episode 4=Chapters 603-605 Episode 5=Chapters 606-608 Episode 6=Chapters 609-611 Episode 7=Chapters 612-614 Episode 8=Chapters 615-617 Episode 9=Chapters 618-621 Episode 10=Chapters 622-625 Episode 11=Chapters 626-628(first half) Episode 12=Chapters 628(end half)-630 Episode 13=631-633 Episode 14=634-637 Episode 15=638-640 Episode 16=641-644 Episode 17=645-648 Episode 18=649-651 Episode 19=652-654 Episode 20=655-657 Episode 21=658-661 |
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Dec 3, 2017 1:27 PM
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JizzyHitler said: I kinda hope SS has small spurts of things like this(to show the scale of a big war in small bits)Alberrti said: rakyou was about half the chapter count and adapted 4 chapters or so translating to 12 episodes.How many episodes do you think that will have Silver soul arc? I really hope that there will have at least around 50. So don't expect more than 24 episodes, it'd probably be downright disastrous to do any more. Maybe, just maybe a 3 cour if they pace it right but i highly doubt that would work. https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/35337 https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/33018 |
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Dec 4, 2017 9:43 PM
#27
Draconix814 said: More like the production Committees pick and choose when the series comes out(and how much episodes) for anime in general, I just hope we get a 3 month break in April-June, then get a Final cour(2nd half of SS arc) in Summer 2018 anime seasonAntagonized said: Draconix814 said: Really hope Fujita Yoichi returns as director... STOP WORKING ON OSOMATSU-SAN!!!! Second this, or Shinji Takamatsu. Actually, Shinji Takamatsu is still on the team for sound design, and he hasn't had any directing role for 200+ episodes now, so I doubt that possibilty. It seems the biggest influence in pretty much everything for Gintama's anime is Fujita Yoichi, so he should be the one to direct and finish it off, but it could be that he just finds himself more comfortable with comedies like Osomatsu-san and Gintama [former]. Really sad, because even though I have no idea what exactly is wrong with the new season, I really don't want those issues to plague final ark, of all things. I also happen to think the new director is rushing to get new content out as fast as possible too, which bugs me, to say the least. |
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Dec 6, 2017 3:35 AM
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SenpaiJay98 said: Draconix814 said: More like the production Committees pick and choose when the series comes out(and how much episodes) for anime in general, I just hope we get a 3 month break in April-June, then get a Final cour(2nd half of SS arc) in Summer 2018 anime seasonAntagonized said: Draconix814 said: Really hope Fujita Yoichi returns as director... STOP WORKING ON OSOMATSU-SAN!!!! Second this, or Shinji Takamatsu. Actually, Shinji Takamatsu is still on the team for sound design, and he hasn't had any directing role for 200+ episodes now, so I doubt that possibilty. It seems the biggest influence in pretty much everything for Gintama's anime is Fujita Yoichi, so he should be the one to direct and finish it off, but it could be that he just finds himself more comfortable with comedies like Osomatsu-san and Gintama [former]. Really sad, because even though I have no idea what exactly is wrong with the new season, I really don't want those issues to plague final ark, of all things. I also happen to think the new director is rushing to get new content out as fast as possible too, which bugs me, to say the least. No, I'm completely against that. If they're going to adapt the final ark, they should adapt it all at once. No more of this splitting seasons bullcrap, it's doing nothing but ruining Gintama's momentum, and it hurts even more thanks to the latest season's sub par directing. |
Dec 6, 2017 5:48 AM
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Draconix814 said: Bro...there is no way that SS can be have a stable production when it's 3 Cours straight(counrimg Porori), since SS is like Yoshiwara in Flames, Kabuki 4 Devas, FS level action back to back to backSenpaiJay98 said: Draconix814 said: Antagonized said: Draconix814 said: Really hope Fujita Yoichi returns as director... STOP WORKING ON OSOMATSU-SAN!!!! Second this, or Shinji Takamatsu. Actually, Shinji Takamatsu is still on the team for sound design, and he hasn't had any directing role for 200+ episodes now, so I doubt that possibilty. It seems the biggest influence in pretty much everything for Gintama's anime is Fujita Yoichi, so he should be the one to direct and finish it off, but it could be that he just finds himself more comfortable with comedies like Osomatsu-san and Gintama [former]. Really sad, because even though I have no idea what exactly is wrong with the new season, I really don't want those issues to plague final ark, of all things. I also happen to think the new director is rushing to get new content out as fast as possible too, which bugs me, to say the least. No, I'm completely against that. If they're going to adapt the final ark, they should adapt it all at once. No more of this splitting seasons bullcrap, it's doing nothing but ruining Gintama's momentum, and it hurts even more thanks to the latest season's sub par directing. |
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Dec 7, 2017 4:01 PM
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@SenpaiJay98 Bro...there is no way that SS can be have a stable production when it's 3 Cours straight(counrimg Porori), since SS is like Yoshiwara in Flames, Kabuki 4 Devas, FS level action back to back to back This is why I said this: I also happen to think the new director is rushing to get new content out as fast as possible too, which bugs me, to say the least. The new director of Gintama doesn't seem competent in fully managing everything on his own. Gintama was always had 50 episodes or more for its seasons, except for Overdrive. If he decided to wait a little longer to air the Rakuyo ark, he would have gotten out that ark plus the Silver Soul ark without ruining Gintama's momentum. but no, he rushed to get the Rakuyo ark out, and he didn't have enough time to animate the rest of Silver Soul, so he pumped out the Porori season just to keep us occupied until he can get the rest done. All the shit he pulled up to now would be for nothing if he decides to break the seasons up further because regardless of the quality of directing Gintama has in the Silver Soul Ark, Gintama wouldn't be able to have enough momentum to build up sufficient hype for itself. In my opinion, the anime should have just waited a little longer before airing the Rakuyo ark, airing both arks in one season. Then after everything is over, they should have said "Wait! There's more!" and then adapt the unadapted arks, so that it doesn't feel like a cheap method to stall for time. I repeat: I hope to god that Fujita Yoichi returns for Gintama's final ark. I heard Osomatsu-san isn't airing into the Winter 2018 Season (I could be wrong though), so we might actually have hope for the possibility that he might've returned to supervise Gintama SS. Time can only tell. |
Draconix814Dec 7, 2017 4:06 PM
Dec 7, 2017 4:21 PM
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Dec 7, 2017 5:35 PM
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Draconix814 said: And I already said that the Production Committee's picks and chooses the air times and episode numbers, NOT the director https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2017/05/02/what-is-an-animes-production-committee/@SenpaiJay98 Bro...there is no way that SS can be have a stable production when it's 3 Cours straight(counrimg Porori), since SS is like Yoshiwara in Flames, Kabuki 4 Devas, FS level action back to back to back This is why I said this: I also happen to think the new director is rushing to get new content out as fast as possible too, which bugs me, to say the least. The new director of Gintama doesn't seem competent in fully managing everything on his own. Gintama was always had 50 episodes or more for its seasons, except for Overdrive. If he decided to wait a little longer to air the Rakuyo ark, he would have gotten out that ark plus the Silver Soul ark without ruining Gintama's momentum. but no, he rushed to get the Rakuyo ark out, and he didn't have enough time to animate the rest of Silver Soul, so he pumped out the Porori season just to keep us occupied until he can get the rest done. All the shit he pulled up to now would be for nothing if he decides to break the seasons up further because regardless of the quality of directing Gintama has in the Silver Soul Ark, Gintama wouldn't be able to have enough momentum to build up sufficient hype for itself. In my opinion, the anime should have just waited a little longer before airing the Rakuyo ark, airing both arks in one season. Then after everything is over, they should have said "Wait! There's more!" and then adapt the unadapted arks, so that it doesn't feel like a cheap method to stall for time. I repeat: I hope to god that Fujita Yoichi returns for Gintama's final ark. I heard Osomatsu-san isn't airing into the Winter 2018 Season (I could be wrong though), so we might actually have hope for the possibility that he might've returned to supervise Gintama SS. Time can only tell. Learn about this before you start saying things you might not know about AND there is a Animator Shortage in Japan right now, that's why Most animes now are either 10-13 episodes, 2 cour, or Split Cour http://goboiano.com/anime-industry-faces-animator-shortage-crisis-that-could-damage-future-productions/ |
SenpaiJay98Dec 7, 2017 5:51 PM
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Dec 10, 2017 1:08 PM
#33
Episode 1=Chapters 596-598 Episode 2=Chapters 599 and 600 Episode 3=Chapters 601 and 602 Episode 4=Chapters 603-605 Episode 5=Chapters 606-608 Episode 6=Chapters 609-611 Episode 7=Chapters 612-614 Episode 8=Chapters 615-617 Episode 9=Chapters 618-621 Episode 10=Chapters 622-625 Episode 11=Chapters 626-628(first half) Episode 12=Chapters 628(end half)-630 3 Month Break? Episode 13=Chapters 631-633 Episode 14=Chapters 634-637 Episode 15=Chapters 638-640 Episode 16=Chapters 641-644 Episode 17=Chapters 645-648 Episode 18=Chapters 649-651 Episode 19=Chapters 652-654 Episode 20=Chapters 655-657 Episode 21=Chapters 658-661 Episode 22=Chapters 662-665(I have a feeling 664 and 665 will involve something that 663 set up) Episode 23-25(I need to see the rest of the manga chapters) |
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Dec 10, 2017 1:30 PM
#34
My expectations are high as hell, but it's Sorachi sensei so I doubt it'll disappoint. I feel bad for the mangaka in a way. Writing a satisfying ending that brings closure to so many different characters is not easy! |
Dec 11, 2017 3:46 AM
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Look at that rating, who decides the rating? R+ is elfenlied and attack on titan have such rating, how bloody will it be? Wow, ican't wait for the silver soul, but i also don't wanna watch it once a week :/ i don't know if i'll wait for summer to start it or not :/ Also, if we get 2 separate seasons each 12 ep, will the budget and thus the quality of anime increase? |
Dec 11, 2017 3:54 AM
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SenpaiJay98 said: do we get something like an arc ending in chapter 630? It seems shit starts to go down after 630Episode 1=Chapters 596-598 Episode 2=Chapters 599 and 600 Episode 3=Chapters 601 and 602 Episode 4=Chapters 603-605 Episode 5=Chapters 606-608 Episode 6=Chapters 609-611 Episode 7=Chapters 612-614 Episode 8=Chapters 615-617 Episode 9=Chapters 618-621 Episode 10=Chapters 622-625 Episode 11=Chapters 626-628(first half) Episode 12=Chapters 628(end half)-630 3 Month Break? Episode 13=Chapters 631-633 Episode 14=Chapters 634-637 Episode 15=Chapters 638-640 Episode 16=Chapters 641-644 Episode 17=Chapters 645-648 Episode 18=Chapters 649-651 Episode 19=Chapters 652-654 Episode 20=Chapters 655-657 Episode 21=Chapters 658-661 Episode 22=Chapters 662-665(I have a feeling 664 and 665 will involve something that 663 set up) Episode 23-25(I need to see the rest of the manga chapters) |
Dec 11, 2017 4:29 AM
#37
I’m kinda sad seeing this series end, but I’m more worried about how the studio is going to do this. I didn’t dig the way they rushed Rakuyou and I’m scared that they’re going to do the same with the SS arc. |
Dec 11, 2017 5:49 AM
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Salamak said: 630 ends at a good spot for a 3 month break instead of a cliffhanger, but if their is no 3 month break...then I think episode 12 will end on chapter 631(since it brings back a fab fan character at the end)SenpaiJay98 said: do we get something like an arc ending in chapter 630? It seems shit starts to go down after 630Episode 1=Chapters 596-598 Episode 2=Chapters 599 and 600 Episode 3=Chapters 601 and 602 Episode 4=Chapters 603-605 Episode 5=Chapters 606-608 Episode 6=Chapters 609-611 Episode 7=Chapters 612-614 Episode 8=Chapters 615-617 Episode 9=Chapters 618-621 Episode 10=Chapters 622-625 Episode 11=Chapters 626-628(first half) Episode 12=Chapters 628(end half)-630 3 Month Break? Episode 13=Chapters 631-633 Episode 14=Chapters 634-637 Episode 15=Chapters 638-640 Episode 16=Chapters 641-644 Episode 17=Chapters 645-648 Episode 18=Chapters 649-651 Episode 19=Chapters 652-654 Episode 20=Chapters 655-657 Episode 21=Chapters 658-661 Episode 22=Chapters 662-665(I have a feeling 664 and 665 will involve something that 663 set up) Episode 23-25(I need to see the rest of the manga chapters) |
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Dec 11, 2017 6:17 AM
#39
I'm not ready to be destroyed but I'm also excited for what might be one of the greatest experiences of my life. |
Dec 11, 2017 6:40 AM
#40
I'd lower my expectations in anime since I didn't like how the studio rushed the rakuyou arc, but I don't doubt Sorachi-sensei's writing. And Time to read the salty comments of salty fanboys next year |
Dec 11, 2017 7:26 AM
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This anime really like no other. a one of a kind masterpiece that will forever be remembered. I'm sure most will say the same exact if they've come along this far. |
Dec 11, 2017 9:25 AM
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LalatinaDarkness said: I really dont think id call rakyou rushed especially after my rewatch of it. If anything id argue its faults were poor pacing on the manga part due to alot of unnecessary fluff and then rushing stuff like oboros anticlimactic fight which the anime actually extended a small bit. Rakyou held up alot better on a rewatch, but generally the arc itself is at fault, the anime doing a shit job animating it didnt help, only the katsura fight and the final episode looks particularly good they dropped the ball hard on shit like takasugi's return and the kamui fight with the amount of still frames and derp models.I'd lower my expectations in anime since I didn't like how the studio rushed the rakuyou arc, but I don't doubt Sorachi-sensei's writing. And Time to read the salty comments of salty fanboys next year Rakyou just felt poorly planned, like sorachi didnt really know fully how to end kamui's conflict in this finale so they go out of their way and kind of mess up the flow of the previous 2 story arcs to try and wrap this plotline up. It really feels like the intention originally after farewell shinsengumi was to delve right into the stuff with utsuruo and oboro's past but they had to go wrap up the kamui stuff first. I really think rakyou should of been shorter cutting out the entirety of the 3 jobber fights sakamoto gin and katsura had, then focused only on kamui and his past, then had its own indivdual arc with oboro as the antagonist of said arc as the penultimate section of the series. Combining the 2 just felt messy. |
JizzyHitlerDec 11, 2017 9:28 AM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Dec 11, 2017 1:35 PM
#43
JizzyHitler said: LalatinaDarkness said: I really dont think id call rakyou rushed especially after my rewatch of it. If anything id argue its faults were poor pacing on the manga part due to alot of unnecessary fluff and then rushing stuff like oboros anticlimactic fight which the anime actually extended a small bit. Rakyou held up alot better on a rewatch, but generally the arc itself is at fault, the anime doing a shit job animating it didnt help, only the katsura fight and the final episode looks particularly good they dropped the ball hard on shit like takasugi's return and the kamui fight with the amount of still frames and derp models.I'd lower my expectations in anime since I didn't like how the studio rushed the rakuyou arc, but I don't doubt Sorachi-sensei's writing. And Time to read the salty comments of salty fanboys next year Rakyou just felt poorly planned, like sorachi didnt really know fully how to end kamui's conflict in this finale so they go out of their way and kind of mess up the flow of the previous 2 story arcs to try and wrap this plotline up. It really feels like the intention originally after farewell shinsengumi was to delve right into the stuff with utsuruo and oboro's past but they had to go wrap up the kamui stuff first. I really think rakyou should of been shorter cutting out the entirety of the 3 jobber fights sakamoto gin and katsura had, then focused only on kamui and his past, then had its own indivdual arc with oboro as the antagonist of said arc as the penultimate section of the series. Combining the 2 just felt messy. I wouldn't really blame Sorachi for that as he was running out of time, he needed to start the final arc as soon as possible or he might've gotten the Bleach/Toriko treatment. I think the Joui 3 fights were important since many wanted to see those characters in serious fights and it also gave them character development. I never felt like the Kamui situation was weird, it felt planned, because of all the set up from Umibozu arc and Yoshiwara in Flames arc(Umibozu telling Gintoki that he might be able to arrive at a different answer), I agree that Oboro's case could've been better, but as I said he probably felt the need to wrap up all the remaining plotlines before the Silver Soul arc and in many people's views, the Oboro chapters were very good in the manga(it was my favorite part of Rakuyou), but the Anime episode didn't feel as strong for some reason. But I agree that the Anime didn't rush it at all. |
Dec 11, 2017 2:33 PM
#44
I don't read the manga (so is obvious that I don't want any type of spoiler), and the final arc is supossed to be released on January 7, a question for the people who reads the manga. It feels like the manga will end soon? If not, then this season may not be the last. |
AlberrtiDec 11, 2017 2:39 PM
Dec 11, 2017 10:02 PM
#45
Alberrti said: This is the final arc, but we don't know if the anime will be a 2 cour or Split courI don't read the manga (so is obvious that I don't want any type of spoiler), and the final arc is supossed to be released on January 7, a question for the people who reads the manga. It feels like the manga will end soon? If not, then this season may not be the last. |
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Dec 11, 2017 10:19 PM
#46
JizzyHitler said: I feltLalatinaDarkness said: I really dont think id call rakyou rushed especially after my rewatch of it. If anything id argue its faults were poor pacing on the manga part due to alot of unnecessary fluff and then rushing stuff like oboros anticlimactic fight which the anime actually extended a small bit. Rakyou held up alot better on a rewatch, but generally the arc itself is at fault, the anime doing a shit job animating it didnt help, only the katsura fight and the final episode looks particularly good they dropped the ball hard on shit like takasugi's return and the kamui fight with the amount of still frames and derp models.I'd lower my expectations in anime since I didn't like how the studio rushed the rakuyou arc, but I don't doubt Sorachi-sensei's writing. And Time to read the salty comments of salty fanboys next year Rakyou just felt poorly planned, like sorachi didnt really know fully how to end kamui's conflict in this finale so they go out of their way and kind of mess up the flow of the previous 2 story arcs to try and wrap this plotline up. It really feels like the intention originally after farewell shinsengumi was to delve right into the stuff with utsuruo and oboro's past but they had to go wrap up the kamui stuff first. I really think rakyou should of been shorter cutting out the entirety of the 3 jobber fights sakamoto gin and katsura had, then focused only on kamui and his past, then had its own indivdual arc with oboro as the antagonist of said arc as the penultimate section of the series. Combining the 2 just felt messy. JizzyHitler said: LalatinaDarkness said: I really dont think id call rakyou rushed especially after my rewatch of it. If anything id argue its faults were poor pacing on the manga part due to alot of unnecessary fluff and then rushing stuff like oboros anticlimactic fight which the anime actually extended a small bit. Rakyou held up alot better on a rewatch, but generally the arc itself is at fault, the anime doing a shit job animating it didnt help, only the katsura fight and the final episode looks particularly good they dropped the ball hard on shit like takasugi's return and the kamui fight with the amount of still frames and derp models.I'd lower my expectations in anime since I didn't like how the studio rushed the rakuyou arc, but I don't doubt Sorachi-sensei's writing. And Time to read the salty comments of salty fanboys next year Rakyou just felt poorly planned, like sorachi didnt really know fully how to end kamui's conflict in this finale so they go out of their way and kind of mess up the flow of the previous 2 story arcs to try and wrap this plotline up. It really feels like the intention originally after farewell shinsengumi was to delve right into the stuff with utsuruo and oboro's past but they had to go wrap up the kamui stuff first. I really think rakyou should of been shorter cutting out the entirety of the 3 jobber fights sakamoto gin and katsura had, then focused only on kamui and his past, then had its own indivdual arc with oboro as the antagonist of said arc as the penultimate section of the series. Combining the 2 just felt messy. I felt like if Rakuoyu would have been 2 different arcs, then you would need a hella complicated situation for Oboro and Kamui to be in different planets with Utsuro being somewhere else(including getting rid of Harsume also) I wonder why Rakuyou didn't get 13 episodes, I felt like 1 more episode(and cut the Pakuyso gag from 322) would have been almost perfect pacing for Rakuyou BTW Me and a couple other people (who gave me their opinions and critcisms) made a list for Gintamas animation levels, and I feel like people were too harsh on Rakuyou's production(still one of the weaker animated arcs but not shit throughout, the best Consistent animated arc was probably Kabuki 4 Devas, or Yoshiwara in Flames), this list is based off of judging the Whole episode...NOT scenes(and if they're is like Over almost 4-5 minutes of Reused footage then a episode gets Penalized(like a episode with a meh/bad animated first half with a good/great animated 2nd half would be on the same level as a episode with a Solid/ok First and Second Half), or if something was like the Kagura vs Kihetai scene in Episode 59 with amazing animation for 2 minutes...but after that was mostly a a dull looking(directed) episode with barely animation in it Keep in mind that I always though Gintama has average animation for the most part(with a few highlight episodes), and the ranking is based off of Gintama only/standards(not in general with other anime) SS+=Movie 2 SS= hopefully a Movie 3 in the future to fill this spot SS-=Movie 1 S+=235(lol, but it's Top tier) S=180, 305 S-=145, 214, 246, 304 A+=211, 142, 320 A= 61, 104, 178, 301 A-= 60, 141, 213, 260, 280, 314, 328 B+ 103, 105 144, 179, 215, 259, 279, 308, 313, 317, 319, 323 B= 59, 143, 177, 245, 281, 295, 312, 315, 324, 326 B-= 58, 102, 163, 244, 257, 261, 311, 321, 335 C+=140, 212, 245, 258, 307, 310, 316, 318, 325, 334 C= 101, 139, 181, 210, 302, 309, 322, 327 C-= 146, 300, 303 D+= 306 D=337 D-= 27 F+=84 F=156 F-=209(entire recap) |
SenpaiJay98Dec 12, 2017 4:16 PM
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Dec 12, 2017 4:07 PM
#47
SenpaiJay98 said: You mean 337, right?D=338 |
Dec 12, 2017 4:16 PM
#48
Yes, I messed up there lol |
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Dec 13, 2017 11:46 AM
#49
Well, haven't got high expectations because of disappointment that I got from watching RDB Arc.. but I secretly hope for something as good as SA Arc |
Dec 13, 2017 5:57 PM
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SenpaiJay98 said: Random, but where would you rank Episode 332 at?(Final episode of Homeless arc)Yes, I messed up there lol |
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