S-quare22 said: You have the courage to post this , all my respect to you OP I know you'll be eaten by shaft haters but I'll respond seriously As a shaft hater , I don't see its animation good .. this studio stops the screen on a good picture and let the characters talk , this is called economy of the money , i know it's hard to undrstand This studio knows how to cheat on ppl by giving them shiny , bright and vivid colors and drawings .. also I don't usually judge a studio from the animation cuz it's pointless tbh , you should judge them from their produced shows , shaft only has the monogatari series (the eternal ongoing series) and mahou shoujo madoka which are not that amazing or that popular tho .. So I just want to answer your opinion with my opinion since at least you explained why and didnt post some random pics. This toic was doomed to become an classic opinion wars on MAL anyways. To me animations is never the important point of an anime(as for you it seems). For example ufotable. What makes them so popular is their animation. Other than that we are watching a eroge plot without eroge part. Nothing special imo. "I don't see its animation good" -> You are right. They are not good at animation. Because they choose to adapt show that require static movement. I am fine with it tbh. I also wonder how they will adapt the new Fate for that reason. "shaft only has the monogatari series (the eternal ongoing series) and mahou shoujo madoka" -> Have to point that out but this is being ignorant. "which are not that amazing or that popular tho" -> Both has a very big fanbase in Japan "and" also for the rest of the world. I dont know how many people you need to say this show is popular so yea. But again I think you are being ignorant again in here. |
Manaban said: I honestly don't know if the thread topic is more annoying or if the collective "reeeeeeee Madhouse is the best studio how dare you say otherwise" responses are more annoying DEEN masterrace amiright? Legit though, these topics are largely pointless since we should be talking more about directors and original authors than studios. |
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| Pierrot, A-1 and DEEN are all better. |
| Ehhhhhh shaft is nice But ufotable is an eyegasm |
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| I love Shaft but I'm not sure I would say they are the "best". Every studio has a mix of good and bad |
| Eh? I don't think so..Kyoto Animation is one of the best anime studio for me. |
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| I don't like Shaft. A lot. There are far better studios out there (Bones, Kyoro Aniamtion, etc.) |
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| what the fuck are you talking about? Shaft is the shitiest animation studio with wrecking neck |
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| Each to their own taste but SHAFT is one of my low anime studios. When I see a anime done by SHAFT, I am usually unhappy about it. Looking at the Fate series from SHAFT, I just dont feel like watching it. |
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| I dunno about absolute best, but if we were playing marry, fuck, kill and the options were Madhouse, Shaft, and I dunno, Production I.G., I'd marry Madhouse, fuck Shaft, and kill Production I.G. |
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| I think the appeal of Shaft is that their style is "different" and looks very "unique". Is it better than other animation styles? Personally, yeah, they are. I would see why people would disagree though. All the other animation studios (not all obviously) feel sort of the same in terms of style. A (bad) analogy would be that every (modern) pop song sounds the same. What I like about Shaft is that they are a breath of fresh air. Maybe like how rock and roll was a breath of fresh air in the past (again bad analogy) (maybe a better analogy would be prog rock but yeah). Context: I am an anime newbie; the only Shaft anime I watched is Monogatari (but yeah I hope my insight would be interesting/helpful nonetheless) (also even bad analogies present insightful comparisons) |
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| I would say they are one of the best. Profit is definitely the best parameter measuring a company's success. Shaft indeed made some of the best-selling series of all time. Bakemonogatari and Magic Madoka are ranked 2nd and 5th in term of average BD sales in Japan anime history. But Shaft is still a relatively new studio. Besides that 2 huge success, they only have about 4 other anime that are worthy mentioning: 1. Goodbuy, Despair-Sensei 2. Nisekoi 3. Hidamari Sketch 4. March's Lion This makes Shaft seem pretty weak compared to Kyoani or Sunrise who have a bunch of successful anime. I would say Shaft is one of the best, but I can't say it is the best. |
| Shaft has like 3-4 series with their ''iconic visuals'' that apparently really stand out, most of what they've produced is generic stuff that you wouldn't even guess it's by Shaft if you're only familiar with them due to Monogatari, Mekakucity Actors, Zetsubou Sensei, Nisekoi, Madoka Magica or 3-gatsu No Lion. They're still nowhere near giants like Sunrise or Kyoto Animation. As both of those have way more successful works in their repertoire. Besides, I don't think Shaft has really made anything that good. Monogatari series are just decent, Madoka Magica is a plot hole infested edgefest, Mekakucity Actors' structure is a mess, Nisekoi... we all know about Nisekoi, no need to even say anything. 3-Gatsu and Zetsubou-Sensei are probably the only things Shaft has done that I can think of as good. |
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nbyung09 said: 2. Nisekoi This makes Shaft seem pretty weak compared to Kyoani or Sunrise who have a bunch of successful anime. I would say Shaft is one of the best, but I can't say it is the best. Pretty much the only decent anime is Nisekoi as I've tried the other Shaft series and it was just BAD. |
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| I like Shaft too, but compared to Ufotable and KyoAni... |
| Shaft seems to be really good with shows that have a large amount of dialogues , like for example the gatari series which is indeed a great adaptation. Most of their works are moe animes tho , the most action packed thing i recall would be the gatari movies which recently aired. They're good but they don't excel in all types of anime genres |
Mefke said: Shaft seems to be really good with shows that have a large amount of dialogues , like for example the gatari series which is indeed a great adaptation. Most of their works are moe animes tho , the most action packed thing i recall would be the gatari movies which recently aired. They're good but they don't excel in all types of anime genres pretty sure most dialogue heavy shaft series is sayonara zetsubou sensei which pretty good while action heavy shaft is dance in the vampire bund which also does pretty shit... as for moe... oh well, it's really mixed bag, from hidmari sketch whcih pretty good to kofuku grafity which just stright insulting... |
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| only seen a few monogatari stuff and ef with a few handful of shows natsu no arashi looks interesting tho, might have to check that out |
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| If you are taking Shaft as the "best studio" because of Monogatari garbage/trash, you need to watch other/more anime. |
| Haters always gonna hate. |
| Kyoto ani, madhouse, white fox, jc staff and A1 are better imo then shaft and bones |
| Bro it not *the* best...but "one of the best". I don't wanna compete with the art style & signatures with other studio's. But shaft is really something that stands out. (Btw senjougahara is the best girl ever) |
kokuborou said: You must be joking, sir - no one holding such an opinion could be a reliable arbiter.the subtle use of the fanservice in their works. |
But yeah, it's too bad; shaft is wasted on ecchi garbage. |
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MortalMelancholy said: But yeah, it's too bad; shaft is wasted on ecchi garbage. Why you quoting yourself? Well.. I would say Shaft doing things cleverly, even the Ecchi. I don't really fond of fanservice yet Monogatari is still engaging and fun in their own way. I still look away if the scene is too erotic, though. Is it safe to assume the thread is dead the moment OP doesn't even bother comes from the first page? |
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| Judge a studio's "superiority" based on visuals, character dialogues and head tilts? Lul. |
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Karma-Kun_ said: Seeing those people throwing out their favorite studios in this discussion. I wish they could have give J.C. Staff a recognition (lol what a biased opinion I said there) B-But I did? J.C.Staff is the best studio :3 Gator said: Shaft is in my top 5 animation studios, but that's about it. Best animation studio to me is still J.C.Staff, just because I liked their anime the best overall. If we talk about animation quality only I would give it to Kyoto Animation. |
SigmaticDoc said: Madoka Magica is a plot hole infested edgefest When I see a plot hole criticism aimed at Madoka I get confused as I can't see any for the life of me. |
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RoryBurrows said: dvbx_073 said: Evangelion sold more then both & Kidou Senshi Gundam sold more then Madoka I think. There's a site I saw sometime on MAL forums displaying the top selling series and both of those were at top. Maybe Eva and Gundam outsold them in the DVD section? As they are both quite old anime They've outsold them in general. IIRC ,Monogatari and Madoka are the best sellers of this decade, from 2010 and up. |
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| Apart from the Monogatari series I haven't noticed Shaft much, that is until i saw Hidamari Sketch, i love that show with it's artistic flourish, cosy chats and calming pace. |
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Rayzer said: "Spread the Hate, Spread the Idiocy."If you are taking Shaft as the "best studio" because of Monogatari garbage/trash, you need to watch other/more anime. |
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| but studio shaft isn't the best anime studio though |
| Someone could please call me when Shaft will produce a good anime? |
| cuz the name of the studio is rather amusing |
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| They are good in their own way, monogatari series is amazing and I feel like other studios couldn't make it as good as shaft did. 3-gatsu no lion is amazing aswell just a really good studio. I think I like most anime studio's since they all have at least 1 amazing anime. |
| Shaft is my least favourite studio I prefer any studio over Shaft |
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