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Jun 11, 2017 8:04 AM
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wen294 said: logic340 said: wen294 said: - I legit don't even see how my post made you look bad tbh. It was just a reply to you: yes i had been going under the radar, yes you were free to ask questions. - idk - Not much. He made some posts that i thought were kinda nice EoD1, and then he made some posts that were bad again today. (sadface). - going with the flooow. That and pressure. I feel like i actually have a chance of getting something from him, unlike most others. - I kinda explained this already at some point in time. Short version: wasn't sure what to think of mil. I felt like he was just all over the place and had no clue if that was because he made no sense to me as a player or he had a reason to. That's also why i wanted to hear what his 'plan' was. To hear if it makes sense with what he did D1. - Yup. Since when have i ever wrote big replies to your isos? Oh wait, never. (well okey i might have done it like once or twice but not in any of our recent games). Beside that most of it was already general concecus or stuff i thought 'sounds about right' of. I don't see the need to comment to every little thing one by one if i don't think it's usefull tyvm. - idk, it just kinda did. Guess it has something to do with the fact that i'm kinda annoyed rn. - no clue what you mean with 'got the scum wall'. - idk. Not like i can look in the future. - you still didn't answer the question which is what was the purpose of this post. That's the important part. The way it looks to me you spun it back at me "you're not going to ask me questions" that's trying to make be look bad. And if you can't see it then I suggest you take this out of your game entirely. -sad....seen like you did hit the scum wall -I would say you were not able to get much out of iron Ace because of the actual level of effort you put into it. Had you went about it in a different way I bet you that you would probably understand or know a little more then you currently do. Hence why I called it a scummy attack D1. -other than offering up his boat day one can you give me examples of where he's just going with the flow? At this point I can kind of accuse you of that just going with the flow. -your approach to Militus is oddly different and this really does not explain why nor does it justify it. If you really want to figure Meletus out don't you think you should ask them some questions tag them quote something that they said and ask a question about it? These are the things that I wanted you to do with ironace that you didn't you're not doing them with Militus and you're not attacking Militus the way you did ironce? It's a strange distinction between two similar players? -why does what you've done in the past have anything to do with your lack of an answer to my ISO in this game? How is that alignment indicative or good defense? What I want to know is why and how you read that whole thing and have one thing to say about it? Should I just stop doing them then since it obviously was a huge waste of time if you only have one question and boo connects out of that whole thing? These things don't just give me reads on the people I do them on the way others react and respond to them also lets me read you all. -I'm annoyed rn too not sure if that came across in this post or not? -"hit the scum wall" sorry for the typos mobile sucks. Basically your motivation seens gone I see it happen to scum from time to time but generally but this early. -this reply really pings me for scum. No one expects you to look into the future but I do expect you to know what you're capable of and have a plan for what you going to do with the rest of this phase. So your answer is very disgusting and unappealing. In your own words "YUCK!!!" - I still don't get your point. It served no greater/ingenious purpose than to simply reply to you. Also i never said you weren't gonna ask questions. I said you were free to ask them so long as you cared about them. I asked penta if he wanted to ask me anything and he just said 'no'. - You should know by now that i'm more motivated as scum than town. - eh, fair enough. - Hmm, backreading through his posts there is indeed not much that points towards it. I did get that collective feeling from his posts though... might be because most of his posts not really getting attention except for the ones that one where he offered up his vote. My interaction with him wasn't much except for some fluff and the part about his voting that i thought was weird. Guess this is why people usually backread huh... unvote - Because i never give a "woooah" reaction to your isos. Why would i suddenly do so now...? I really don't get why you expect my behaviour towards them to be different than usual. Seriously why would i go "yeah sounds about right" about half of your points. What does that do except maybe making you feel good about yourself? I don't do much with your isos except read it through, if something stands out i comment on it (which usually isn't the case) and apart from that i sometimes make use of it as a means of replacing backreading. That's it. And if you want to stop doing them then that's your decision to make man. I'm fine with it either way. - a bit, yeah. - ah okey, clear. - Well that's the difference between "will you be making any contribution this phase" and "will you try to make any contribution this phase". Obviously i only know the answer to the latter. -My point isn't hard to get so I am not sure why you aren't getting it. My point is there was no point to your post asking me if I would question you. I had already questioned you and made my suspicions of you very clear so what more did you feel you needed from me in justifying my vote? It was a very bad attempt by you to make me look bad and now you are claiming ignorance. -While I can say that for Suzune I cannot say that for you not based off what I saw form you in EEM and Gakkougurashi as town. That self meta is trash never bring it out again. -Not sure how you missed this considering you grabbed the one about Abu 3 posts below. Look over these posts that Coelestin found then tell me what you think of Sakura Coelestin said: SuzakuTsubasa said: Hi~ logic340 said: @Militus, @SuzakuTsubasa, @PTYamin Hi I'm logic. I've never played with you 3 before. Do you have any prior mafia experience? Any thoughts on the players who have posted to this point? I have played several games before, haven't played in a while though. Since I don't know you either, what is your experience? I don't recall seeing you before so I could assume you started during my break, but I could be wrong. Right now I'm not too sure. Shinichi makes me think he's answering posts as he's reading them, which is as usual as far as I can remember. I see you poking and asking questions to everyone, which of course is a way for town to get info, but I also think that it's easy for scum to look townie day 1 that way, but since no one seem to find it unusual I guess it's your way of playing. Penta deceived me many times so I'm wary of him. I don't agree with Grr's idea of mass claiming that early, right now he's neutral to me. Ironace is new, so his behaviour isn't unexpected, but it's easy for a newbie to hide behind that reason later in the game so I'll be watching what he does starting day 2. SuzakuTsubasa said: "Knowing how you play" does that mean he's acting weird or is he just hard to read? SuzakuTsubasa said: Obviously naming you as town would be too easy. For now he has only been catching up the thread, but I think Shinichi is acting as usual with his regular posts so I would say he's my best town read. As for a scum, I'm far from being sure. Grr's mass claim idea still floats in my head as weird. Denja has only posted once and just fluff. These two are the ones I'm the most suspicious about. I was mostly trying to get info about you from players who might have played with you. Seems like it was quite unsuccessful though since they all say you're "hard to read." So I guess you're acting as usual since no one raised any suspicion, so back to neutral. By the way you didn't answer my question about your experience in mafia, or I just missed it? SuzakuTsubasa said: Wasn't this majority mostly made during RVS though? It doesn't seem like you care about who gets lynched. SuzakuTsubasa said: Militus said: logic340 said: Welp, Shinichi was picked out very quickly and with a majority, second being Abu who people find suspicious because of previous games. If Shinichi dies and is a townie, we can place the people who voted him first and started the trend under mafia suspicion, if he is scum we can clear those people of suspicion for the time being, narrowing our mafia search.Militus said: I can come to any conclusion I would like so I feel it's better you explain it to me because some of your posts read like scum posts I have seen in previous games. Like the one about D1 not giving any valid clues. This shows a mindset that isn't very town motivated to me.logic340 said: Read what you just said again, slowly, and you will see my motive.What if this majority is scum though? What do you think about the people on the train and Shinichi? I don't agree with you here. Town is blind, so when lynching a townie you can't blame everyone on the train. Scum can jump on a bus against one of their buddies if they're sure he can't be saved. If scum see a train against a townie is going well, they don't need to jump on it. Which means you can't blame a train for a mislynch and you can't clean everyone from a successful lynch. SuzakuTsubasa said: Militus said: SuzakuTsubasa said: Militus said: logic340 said: Welp, Shinichi was picked out very quickly and with a majority, second being Abu who people find suspicious because of previous games. If Shinichi dies and is a townie, we can place the people who voted him first and started the trend under mafia suspicion, if he is scum we can clear those people of suspicion for the time being, narrowing our mafia search.Militus said: I can come to any conclusion I would like so I feel it's better you explain it to me because some of your posts read like scum posts I have seen in previous games. Like the one about D1 not giving any valid clues. This shows a mindset that isn't very town motivated to me.logic340 said: Read what you just said again, slowly, and you will see my motive.What if this majority is scum though? What do you think about the people on the train and Shinichi? I don't agree with you here. Town is blind, so when lynching a townie you can't blame everyone on the train. Scum can jump on a bus against one of their buddies if they're sure he can't be saved. If scum see a train against a townie is going well, they don't need to jump on it. Which means you can't blame a train for a mislynch and you can't clean everyone from a successful lynch. Pardon me if I don't get the rules? Doesn't the mafia have their own secret chat? Yes they do. I'm not sure how that makes it different though. Town can be in a train against a townie, since they don't know who is townie. If scum see town going for a townie, why would they jump on the train? Even more when you say you're going to be suspicious of the people on the train if the lynch flips town. If town is going for a scum and nothing can be done about that, why would they stand out trying to defend him? SuzakuTsubasa said: logic340 said: Not voting: Shinichi-Kun, DenjaX, PTYamin, SuzakuTsubasa, ironace 3 out of these 5 have posted a bit. I would like to know why all of are you not voting as yet. @ironace you have had 22 hours to feel people out and make observations. I need you to tell us what you feel you have learned thus far. @Shinichi-kun please do not go the entire phase without voting. @SuzakuTsubasa No one worth voting for yet? I don't have any real scum feeling here yet. I rarely vote on day 1, mostly because I don't feel confident enough on my reads. If one of my suspicions grows enough I may vote, or if there's a tie to break (even more when the tie leads to a no lynch.) wen294 said: C'mon Tubacabra, use your voting powers! Haha so the name is decided. I have to agree that seeing "Suzu" in a post can be confusing. When you say it that way it makes me feel a bit guilty to not have voted yet. xD SuzakuTsubasa said: wen294 said: Ah ohkey Pyro, thanks for answering that. That's one worry less. logic340 said: Yeah i know, but i'm finding Mil's play so far to be so extremely weird that i'm having my reservations. It feels less like intentionally going under the radar and more.... idk.... just messing around. He just gives of the feeling that he's not serious at all. I don't really feel comfortable voting him, allthough i do really want to. This response instead of answering the question bothers me. Couple it with the post below where you tell Coelestin that yo missed it though you clearly didn't make you look really bad. very comfortable in doing this Unvote: Vote: Militus @wen294 that thing you are worried about ironace doing I think this is the one you need to be looking out for. The Shinichi vote is exactly the type of thing you were talking about in regard to going with the flow. The last time I remember playing with scum!mil he was completely inactive (actually the whole scum team was.) I find his behaviour quite suspicious too, but what bothers me is that he tried to give an idea, which he didn't do last time. Since I'm not sure how experienced he is in mafia I don't know if he's always lurking like that. SuzakuTsubasa said: logic340 said: Not voting: Shinichi-Kun, DenjaX, PTYamin, SuzakuTsubasa, ironace 3 out of these 5 have posted a bit. I would like to know why all of are you not voting as yet. @ironace you have had 22 hours to feel people out and make observations. I need you to tell us what you feel you have learned thus far. @Shinichi-kun please do not go the entire phase without voting. @SuzakuTsubasa No one worth voting for yet? I don't have any real scum feeling here yet. I rarely vote on day 1, mostly because I don't feel confident enough on my reads. If one of my suspicions grows enough I may vote, or if there's a tie to break (even more when the tie leads to a no lynch.) SuzakuTsubasa said: Karote said: @Shinichi-Kun, @AbuHumaid, @DenjaX, @Sleipnirr, @Suzune-chan, @grrr, @PTYamin, @Floofs, @Militus, @PentaFlare, @RE1031, @yurkin, @SuzakuTsubasa, @ironace, @Rinto-kun, @reiynii, @wen294, @Coelestin Give me your top 3 suspects and I'll possibly put them in a list tomorrow depending which 3 gets the most votes. Militus, DenjaX, Logic. That's probably one of my biggest problem in mafia game, I only talk when I have something to say. I may end up voting this day though, to me Mil was clearly anti-town in his posts. I think a townie acting anti-town is like a scum. SuzakuTsubasa said: Since Logic claimed do we continue with the idea and pressure someone else? I don't mind putting my vote if you think it'll help. SuzakuTsubasa said: I don't see the point in voting Logic as long as no one counter claim Vote lynch: reiynii SuzakuTsubasa said: Shinichi-Kun said: SuzakuTsubasa said: I don't see the point in voting Logic as long as no one counter claim Vote lynch: reiynii wrong cause in an open setup no ones gonna counterclaim this early its suicide and stupid for town to out themselves to catch mafia. But I still don't see the point in voting someone who claimed as long as there's nothing to prove it wrong. If the claim is fake it'll be revealed sooner or later. wen294 said: Hm? Why? Did you get what you wanted? If so what was that? Cause i haven't noticed much that could sway your opinion tbh so i don't get where this is coming from. I was voting him because of his vote on logic. As long as nothing comes to say he lied, I don't see any reason to lynch him. Vote lynch: Militus I'm not sure if I'll be back around phase change so I'm placing it here like I said. His posts were clearly anti-town to me. And he doesn't seem to come back today. SuzakuTsubasa said: logic340 said: RE1031 said: those two and PTY. logic340 said: gun to my head town. I'm more interested in the less active players honestly. Yeah, what's annoying is there's no strategy talk at night, so we can't post actions last minute to avoid interception. Especially Militus and Abu. Also I know Suzaku has posted some but I don't really have an impression. Offering their vote for claims is about all I remember? I guess I didn't do much more day 1. I offered to vote to help put pressure on people if we followed Penta's plan (though I never intended to end the day with a pressure vote.) I voted for Reiynii when he voted for you. Then I voted Mil. wen294 said: logic340 said: Yeah Tubacabra has been amazingly underwhelming so far :Also I know Suzaku has posted some but I don't really have an impression. Offering their vote for claims is about all I remember? I mean i haven't played with him in a year or so but from what i remember he was pretty okey? Well that was my first game and like i said long ago so yeh not like that holds much water. I can't really meta read him unfortunatly. I may not be as active as I used to be, even though I'm trying. I haven't played mafia in half a year, my last game was in October. I may be a bit slower to read and react. logic340 said: RE asked a question yesterday that I'd like to revisit. ironace was leading the vote and garnered suspicion from most yet no one had him in their "Captain's list" why is that? Maybe they thought he was going to get lynched anyway? When Karote asked for the list, Iron's train was quite big if I remember correctly. logic340 said: @AbiHumaid, @Militus, @PTYamin, @SuzakuTsubasa, and @ironace I don't do this often but I want reads from you five. Top 3 Town and top 3 mafia. They dying have to be correct but I want to know who you feel the easy you do about each. We need to see how you all are thinking. @Rinto-kun cine bake some observations and then drift back into obscurity. @Suzune-chan thoughts on my #1556 and the ensuing conversation with Shinichi? @DenjaX your needed on segregation duties stat! Sure. I'm excluding Karote from any "top town" obviously, and you as long as nothing comes up I don't see why we would suspect you. My top towns are: Shinichi, he spent the first day catching up, I was wondering how would day 2 be, to me it's starting good. I don't see him acting in an unusual way. Coelestin, she seems to be really scumhunting since day 1, her reactions give me a town feeling. Penta, it's more of a gut feeling, but he feels different from what I remember of scum!penta (I haven't played with him in a while though.) Top scums are: Yurkin, has voted PTYamin around the beginning of day 1, then went for quite some time talking about mechanics. When asked about her vote she only said "I don't see a reason to move it" but never gave any reason to have it to begin with. Seems extremely focused on PTY. Mil, he posted a bit day 1, but nothing useful, just fluff and vague stuff. I'm not even convinced that he has read the thread. I know, as Coelestin said, anti town =/= scum, but I think they can be a threat to town too, since they can take people's attention. Voting for him could be a waste though since we don't know when he'll come back or how he's going to play. I wonder if a night action wouldn't be the right thing to not waste a lynch, like vig shot or cop (maybe cop would be better investigating active players.) Third one would be Denja, but since he's playing now I'd like to see how he goes day 2 since we haven't seen him day 1. And I don't think any of grr's claim will be real, so maybe we shouldn't spend too much time on them. RE1031 said: logic340 said: it's probably Denja Not going to fight with it. Ok pretty certain it's not Militus at this point he didn't post. I need Militus to post asap. I don't exactly like his gameplay but I think he may be town which is a bad combination. What makes you think he's town? Is it just because he's "too scummy to be scum"? Oh, the post ended up bigger than I thought. Sorry about that. SuzakuTsubasa said: yurkin said: SuzakuTsubasa said: I don't want to spend the rest of the day phase with a vote on Mil while not knowing if he'll even show up and I'm not sure who to vote for yet. @yurkin Are you going to wait for PTY to show up like day 1? pfft lol maybe what i said d2 wasnt clear enough for you tsubasa? "pfft"? Indeed seems like it wasn't. Do you mean this? yurkin said: @logic340 Why vote yamin right away after the start of phase? He's probably not even here to answer similar to yesterday. It's the only post I found on day 2 telling a bit about what you think. With a couple saying how he's going to get replaced anyway. Vote lynch: yurkin Then let me ask another question: the usual "who are your top 3 towns and top 3 scums?" How the heck did I miss all of these posts from Suzaku? Just look at these posts guys, they feel sooooo smooth. Suzaku is like town's silent helper. You, I like you. -I am not asking for a whoa reaction I am asking you to read the entire thing and give some God Damned feedback. Not asking too much since that is what I need to do to figure people out. Your refusal makes it much easier to vote for you and gain the support I need for you lynch. "What does it do besides make you feel good about yourself" These are the types of useless comments you make to paint people. If you don't notice yourself doing it I am bringing it to your attention and telling you it needs to stop if you are town. This is some scummy as shit and a horrible way to defend yourself. -Smart ass answers don't help you cause either. You have a brain and I know you know how to use it so answering like this instead of answering the question you could have answered isn't cute it's annoying and something I expect from scum. |
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Jun 11, 2017 8:09 AM
#2052
wen294 said: SakuraTsubasa??? you don't know who the player you made up a name for is? Maybe use their real name instead of a made up name?logic340 said: Who is sakura?@wen294 what have you gotten out of Sakura? It seems to me that yurkin is doing more work there then you are and you proclaim to be able to get something out of him wen294 said: You don't have to use yourself as an example since you are the one that disagree you are the problem you so speak of with the plan. So I ask you to join hands with us and make it so you are not the problem it's that simple. If we get the majority to agree then the minority will have to work with us or face lynch. That's kind of how majority works.logic340 said: I'm just using myself as an example there, it could be anyone that doesn't agree with who is being lynched and the current playerbase - 5 is still bigger than 5.wen294 said: DenjaX said: it's cool to outnumber scum and all but it's not like all townies always agree on the lynch candidate you know?logic340 said: Karote, you(hider), Perkaholic and 2 who are willing to claim.me likey. Who do you consider confirmed besides Karote tho? So there should be a maximum of 5 confirmed town because it already outnumbers scum combined. I should have thought about this since day one but i was inactive but I am sure it is still not too late to propose it. So I actually want the Perkaholic to claim too to confirm that none of the players day 1 got the double voting perk today and make sure they dont attempt to get cute this phase in case they were scum. I don't really see why the rest should just agree with 5 peeps lynching somebody they don't want to see lynched. I'd rather have us not lynch a townie even if it means not getting a perk for the confirmed townies. In the end that means you might have to consider the posibility of needing more than 5 people to successfully lynch someone. This quote below is actual reasons for not wanting to do it not what you said sorry try again. |
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Jun 11, 2017 8:10 AM
#2053
PentaFlare said: I don't think I was at risk of being lynched. I have faced much stiffer odds than that and survived so if you are going to use "logic was in danger of being lynched" as your argument I am going to call Bull Shit. I gave that information because I wanted not because I was in any danger...smhwen294 said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: AbuHumaid said: Vote: @PentaFlare You're currently my strongest scum read, why would you suggest the idea of claiming but you haven't even claimed yourself? Also i bet mafia knows that a mass claim would fk them up so pretending to support the idea of claiming will make people town read you right? I know that grrr also supported this idea but isn't that just him to claim? And for town reads RE1031, i have a feeling that you are Valkyrie, because of your question "did you use your ability last night?" Rinto, logic hid behind him but didn't die. I know that he might be SK but that's a very low chance town are like 13 and TPR is only 1 now Coelestin, i think you are anonymous based on the context and how active anonymous is I'm on the verge of giving up on this. This is absolutely ridiculous. 90% of my PO's this game are going to become me saying how I only want people to claim when under risk of being lynched and don't want everyone to claim. You are literally voting me because I haven't randomly claimed, which is completely against what I want. This vote is terrible. Whats wrong with the concept? If the person who makes a plan doesnt want to participate in the plan shouldnt we find that weird? How many times do I have to write my plan out for everyone so that they understand it? Obviously it will never be enough because everyone prefers just thinking that I'm promassclaim because is gives them reasons to suspect me. Me claiming would go against my plan unless I'm about to be lynched. I don't know what the vote count it, but if it looks like I'm on the verge of being lynched, I'm trying to claim my role in a way that only you would be able to understand. I should replace myself with a broken record player. I'm just repeating myself. logic had two votes, both with intent to lynch. I had one vote out of suspicion, one vote out of self preservation, and one vote from Shinichi being lazy. logic was in a position where he was going to get more votes soon because others suspected him too. Most other actually had slight townreads on me, so it would have been hard to push a lynch through against me when only Suzune-chan had a justified vote. logic was at risk of being lynched. I wasn't. |
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Jun 11, 2017 8:10 AM
#2054
who tf is sakura lmao if coelestin is actually anon, i will have a good laugh |
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Jun 11, 2017 8:12 AM
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@wen294 Sorry Sakura=Suzaku I was thinking Sakura from Tsubasa instead of Suzaku....LMAO. My bad. |
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Jun 11, 2017 8:13 AM
#2056
eh....on that note I am going to take a half hour break. |
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Jun 11, 2017 8:14 AM
#2057
logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I don't think I was at risk of being lynched. I have faced much stiffer odds than that and survived so if you are going to use "logic was in danger of being lynched" as your argument I am going to call Bull Shit. I gave that information because I wanted not because I was in any danger...smhwen294 said: PentaFlare said: You wanted logic to claim when he had 0 votes, and you yourself didn't want to claim when you were in a shared 1st place with 4 votes??Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: AbuHumaid said: Vote: @PentaFlare You're currently my strongest scum read, why would you suggest the idea of claiming but you haven't even claimed yourself? Also i bet mafia knows that a mass claim would fk them up so pretending to support the idea of claiming will make people town read you right? I know that grrr also supported this idea but isn't that just him to claim? And for town reads RE1031, i have a feeling that you are Valkyrie, because of your question "did you use your ability last night?" Rinto, logic hid behind him but didn't die. I know that he might be SK but that's a very low chance town are like 13 and TPR is only 1 now Coelestin, i think you are anonymous based on the context and how active anonymous is I'm on the verge of giving up on this. This is absolutely ridiculous. 90% of my PO's this game are going to become me saying how I only want people to claim when under risk of being lynched and don't want everyone to claim. You are literally voting me because I haven't randomly claimed, which is completely against what I want. This vote is terrible. Whats wrong with the concept? If the person who makes a plan doesnt want to participate in the plan shouldnt we find that weird? How many times do I have to write my plan out for everyone so that they understand it? Obviously it will never be enough because everyone prefers just thinking that I'm promassclaim because is gives them reasons to suspect me. Me claiming would go against my plan unless I'm about to be lynched. I don't know what the vote count it, but if it looks like I'm on the verge of being lynched, I'm trying to claim my role in a way that only you would be able to understand. I should replace myself with a broken record player. I'm just repeating myself. logic had two votes, both with intent to lynch. I had one vote out of suspicion, one vote out of self preservation, and one vote from Shinichi being lazy. logic was in a position where he was going to get more votes soon because others suspected him too. Most other actually had slight townreads on me, so it would have been hard to push a lynch through against me when only Suzune-chan had a justified vote. logic was at risk of being lynched. I wasn't. No. You totally were. You need to be careful not to be too cocky about your ability to avoid lynches. Knowing how to push through mislynches also teaches me how to read a thread to gauge who has a chance of being lynched. There was enough support for a train on you to make you the leading train, it would have just needed a more active town. |
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Jun 11, 2017 8:15 AM
#2058
Told you. She would have used >.< and not >_< |
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Jun 11, 2017 8:17 AM
#2059
PentaFlare said: No I totally wasn't and I am not being too cocky I am stating a fact that with 2 votes on me and little suspicion I was not actually feeling any danger at that point. I begged for my lynch and couldn't get it you think 2 votes is going to bother me knowing I have a good claim to fall back on? Stop it....logic340 said: PentaFlare said: wen294 said: PentaFlare said: You wanted logic to claim when he had 0 votes, and you yourself didn't want to claim when you were in a shared 1st place with 4 votes??Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: AbuHumaid said: Vote: @PentaFlare You're currently my strongest scum read, why would you suggest the idea of claiming but you haven't even claimed yourself? Also i bet mafia knows that a mass claim would fk them up so pretending to support the idea of claiming will make people town read you right? I know that grrr also supported this idea but isn't that just him to claim? And for town reads RE1031, i have a feeling that you are Valkyrie, because of your question "did you use your ability last night?" Rinto, logic hid behind him but didn't die. I know that he might be SK but that's a very low chance town are like 13 and TPR is only 1 now Coelestin, i think you are anonymous based on the context and how active anonymous is I'm on the verge of giving up on this. This is absolutely ridiculous. 90% of my PO's this game are going to become me saying how I only want people to claim when under risk of being lynched and don't want everyone to claim. You are literally voting me because I haven't randomly claimed, which is completely against what I want. This vote is terrible. Whats wrong with the concept? If the person who makes a plan doesnt want to participate in the plan shouldnt we find that weird? How many times do I have to write my plan out for everyone so that they understand it? Obviously it will never be enough because everyone prefers just thinking that I'm promassclaim because is gives them reasons to suspect me. Me claiming would go against my plan unless I'm about to be lynched. I don't know what the vote count it, but if it looks like I'm on the verge of being lynched, I'm trying to claim my role in a way that only you would be able to understand. I should replace myself with a broken record player. I'm just repeating myself. logic had two votes, both with intent to lynch. I had one vote out of suspicion, one vote out of self preservation, and one vote from Shinichi being lazy. logic was in a position where he was going to get more votes soon because others suspected him too. Most other actually had slight townreads on me, so it would have been hard to push a lynch through against me when only Suzune-chan had a justified vote. logic was at risk of being lynched. I wasn't. No. You totally were. You need to be careful not to be too cocky about your ability to avoid lynches. Knowing how to push through mislynches also teaches me how to read a thread to gauge who has a chance of being lynched. There was enough support for a train on you to make you the leading train, it would have just needed a more active town. A more active town and we would probably have a better suspect than me don't think just because activity was low means things would have stayed the same with increased activity. This is a hypothetical game we don't need to be playing here. |
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Jun 11, 2017 8:18 AM
#2060
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Jun 11, 2017 8:24 AM
#2061
logic340 said: PentaFlare said: No I totally wasn't and I am not being too cocky I am stating a fact that with 2 votes on me and little suspicion I was not actually feeling any danger at that point. I begged for my lynch and couldn't get it you think 2 votes is going to bother me knowing I have a good claim to fall back on? Stop it....logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I don't think I was at risk of being lynched. I have faced much stiffer odds than that and survived so if you are going to use "logic was in danger of being lynched" as your argument I am going to call Bull Shit. I gave that information because I wanted not because I was in any danger...smhwen294 said: PentaFlare said: You wanted logic to claim when he had 0 votes, and you yourself didn't want to claim when you were in a shared 1st place with 4 votes??Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: AbuHumaid said: Vote: @PentaFlare You're currently my strongest scum read, why would you suggest the idea of claiming but you haven't even claimed yourself? Also i bet mafia knows that a mass claim would fk them up so pretending to support the idea of claiming will make people town read you right? I know that grrr also supported this idea but isn't that just him to claim? And for town reads RE1031, i have a feeling that you are Valkyrie, because of your question "did you use your ability last night?" Rinto, logic hid behind him but didn't die. I know that he might be SK but that's a very low chance town are like 13 and TPR is only 1 now Coelestin, i think you are anonymous based on the context and how active anonymous is I'm on the verge of giving up on this. This is absolutely ridiculous. 90% of my PO's this game are going to become me saying how I only want people to claim when under risk of being lynched and don't want everyone to claim. You are literally voting me because I haven't randomly claimed, which is completely against what I want. This vote is terrible. Whats wrong with the concept? If the person who makes a plan doesnt want to participate in the plan shouldnt we find that weird? How many times do I have to write my plan out for everyone so that they understand it? Obviously it will never be enough because everyone prefers just thinking that I'm promassclaim because is gives them reasons to suspect me. Me claiming would go against my plan unless I'm about to be lynched. I don't know what the vote count it, but if it looks like I'm on the verge of being lynched, I'm trying to claim my role in a way that only you would be able to understand. I should replace myself with a broken record player. I'm just repeating myself. logic had two votes, both with intent to lynch. I had one vote out of suspicion, one vote out of self preservation, and one vote from Shinichi being lazy. logic was in a position where he was going to get more votes soon because others suspected him too. Most other actually had slight townreads on me, so it would have been hard to push a lynch through against me when only Suzune-chan had a justified vote. logic was at risk of being lynched. I wasn't. No. You totally were. You need to be careful not to be too cocky about your ability to avoid lynches. Knowing how to push through mislynches also teaches me how to read a thread to gauge who has a chance of being lynched. There was enough support for a train on you to make you the leading train, it would have just needed a more active town. A more active town and we would probably have a better suspect than me don't think just because activity was low means things would have stayed the same with increased activity. This is a hypothetical game we don't need to be playing here. I'm trying to help you here. There was more suspicion of you than you think. The number of townies approaching you cautiously and a few admitting they weren't comfortable with how you were playing. Your claim to fall back on was legitimate, but that was coming across in your play. The good claim was perfectly fine, and it is good that you were aware of it, but you should also know that you really didn't look shiny. |
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Jun 11, 2017 8:26 AM
#2062
Being aware of how you appear to others is a really powerful tool because it helps you catch someone trying to force a mislynch on you or catch someone giving a townread that is way to strong for what you've done. Both of those players would be scum. |
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Jun 11, 2017 8:27 AM
#2063
wen294 said: My thing is how is it Role Fishing when the person in question asked them who they though he was? Also the fact that reiynii did something earlier that was actually a role fish compared to this yet you didn't bring it up is bothersome. This is why I feel like you are painting people rather than actually trying to figure them out. You told me about your town meta right well as town you don't have to paint people as scum that is from my meta on you so why are you doing it here?I doubt it and are you rolefishing here? |
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Jun 11, 2017 8:27 AM
#2064
Coelestin said: this is short sighted. Limit scumhunting? Did I tell everyone to stop scumhunting? We already have town representatives so all we need to do is have them lynch our target. Look at day 1. People are bandwagoning for free perk lottery. Where is the scumhunting there? We were lucky it was just a tpr. Im proposing this idea to control the free perk giveaway and have people to actually scumhunt. Also goodluck scumhunting inactives.@DenjaX It's absolute democracy vs representative democracy lol. Your plan is flawed by the fact that it will limit the realms of scumhunting in this game. The votes and actions of people say more than a thousand words. I know you're all gung ho about game mechanics n stuff, but giving up clues that could point to one's alignment is not worth the perks. Game mechanics is part of the game, but it's not all there is to it. Penta is already doing bad with him pressing charges that already lead to multiple roleclaims. If what im proposing cannot stop massclaims then what are you proposing to do? Massclaiming early is way worse imo. It is already happening and it is like a domino effect. If you want a reference, look at role ladness where you also played. Just look at the massclaims. |
Jun 11, 2017 8:27 AM
#2065
Re thats what togs would use... |
Jun 11, 2017 8:28 AM
#2066
PentaFlare said: Yes it's how I play and caught a lot of flack from SK Fo for in your Gakkougurashi game.Being aware of how you appear to others is a really powerful tool because it helps you catch someone trying to force a mislynch on you or catch someone giving a townread that is way to strong for what you've done. Both of those players would be scum. |
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Jun 11, 2017 8:31 AM
#2067
logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Yes it's how I play and caught a lot of flack from SK Fo for in your Gakkougurashi game.Being aware of how you appear to others is a really powerful tool because it helps you catch someone trying to force a mislynch on you or catch someone giving a townread that is way to strong for what you've done. Both of those players would be scum. Really? That's hilarious now that you mention it. It's probably because Fo was SK, because what I just said is advice he gave me way back. I think you have a tendency to give yourself too strong of a townread though, because you can see the town motivation behind everything you do, but a lot of it is NAI. |
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Jun 11, 2017 8:33 AM
#2068
logic340 said: - It's kinda funny how pissed you are with that because i actually didn't mean anything with it. Before you, penta came at me and voted for me, I asked if he had any questions and he said he didn't want to ask any questions. Then you come at me and say something about questions without asking any, so i wanted to know if you actually intended to ask questions or just vote me and nothing more like Penta did.wen294 said: - I still don't get your point. It served no greater/ingenious purpose than to simply reply to you. Also i never said you weren't gonna ask questions. I said you were free to ask them so long as you cared about them. I asked penta if he wanted to ask me anything and he just said 'no'. - You should know by now that i'm more motivated as scum than town. - eh, fair enough. - Hmm, backreading through his posts there is indeed not much that points towards it. I did get that collective feeling from his posts though... might be because most of his posts not really getting attention except for the ones that one where he offered up his vote. My interaction with him wasn't much except for some fluff and the part about his voting that i thought was weird. Guess this is why people usually backread huh... unvote - Because i never give a "woooah" reaction to your isos. Why would i suddenly do so now...? I really don't get why you expect my behaviour towards them to be different than usual. Seriously why would i go "yeah sounds about right" about half of your points. What does that do except maybe making you feel good about yourself? I don't do much with your isos except read it through, if something stands out i comment on it (which usually isn't the case) and apart from that i sometimes make use of it as a means of replacing backreading. That's it. And if you want to stop doing them then that's your decision to make man. I'm fine with it either way. - a bit, yeah. - ah okey, clear. - Well that's the difference between "will you be making any contribution this phase" and "will you try to make any contribution this phase". Obviously i only know the answer to the latter. -My point isn't hard to get so I am not sure why you aren't getting it. My point is there was no point to your post asking me if I would question you. I had already questioned you and made my suspicions of you very clear so what more did you feel you needed from me in justifying my vote? It was a very bad attempt by you to make me look bad and now you are claiming ignorance. -While I can say that for Suzune I cannot say that for you not based off what I saw form you in EEM and Gakkougurashi as town. That self meta is trash never bring it out again. -Not sure how you missed this considering you grabbed the one about Abu 3 posts below. Look over these posts that Coelestin found then tell me what you think of Sakura Coelestin said: SuzakuTsubasa said: Hi~ logic340 said: @Militus, @SuzakuTsubasa, @PTYamin Hi I'm logic. I've never played with you 3 before. Do you have any prior mafia experience? Any thoughts on the players who have posted to this point? I have played several games before, haven't played in a while though. Since I don't know you either, what is your experience? I don't recall seeing you before so I could assume you started during my break, but I could be wrong. Right now I'm not too sure. Shinichi makes me think he's answering posts as he's reading them, which is as usual as far as I can remember. I see you poking and asking questions to everyone, which of course is a way for town to get info, but I also think that it's easy for scum to look townie day 1 that way, but since no one seem to find it unusual I guess it's your way of playing. Penta deceived me many times so I'm wary of him. I don't agree with Grr's idea of mass claiming that early, right now he's neutral to me. Ironace is new, so his behaviour isn't unexpected, but it's easy for a newbie to hide behind that reason later in the game so I'll be watching what he does starting day 2. SuzakuTsubasa said: "Knowing how you play" does that mean he's acting weird or is he just hard to read? SuzakuTsubasa said: Obviously naming you as town would be too easy. For now he has only been catching up the thread, but I think Shinichi is acting as usual with his regular posts so I would say he's my best town read. As for a scum, I'm far from being sure. Grr's mass claim idea still floats in my head as weird. Denja has only posted once and just fluff. These two are the ones I'm the most suspicious about. I was mostly trying to get info about you from players who might have played with you. Seems like it was quite unsuccessful though since they all say you're "hard to read." So I guess you're acting as usual since no one raised any suspicion, so back to neutral. By the way you didn't answer my question about your experience in mafia, or I just missed it? SuzakuTsubasa said: Wasn't this majority mostly made during RVS though? It doesn't seem like you care about who gets lynched. SuzakuTsubasa said: Militus said: logic340 said: Welp, Shinichi was picked out very quickly and with a majority, second being Abu who people find suspicious because of previous games. If Shinichi dies and is a townie, we can place the people who voted him first and started the trend under mafia suspicion, if he is scum we can clear those people of suspicion for the time being, narrowing our mafia search.Militus said: I can come to any conclusion I would like so I feel it's better you explain it to me because some of your posts read like scum posts I have seen in previous games. Like the one about D1 not giving any valid clues. This shows a mindset that isn't very town motivated to me.logic340 said: Read what you just said again, slowly, and you will see my motive.What if this majority is scum though? What do you think about the people on the train and Shinichi? I don't agree with you here. Town is blind, so when lynching a townie you can't blame everyone on the train. Scum can jump on a bus against one of their buddies if they're sure he can't be saved. If scum see a train against a townie is going well, they don't need to jump on it. Which means you can't blame a train for a mislynch and you can't clean everyone from a successful lynch. SuzakuTsubasa said: Militus said: SuzakuTsubasa said: Militus said: logic340 said: Welp, Shinichi was picked out very quickly and with a majority, second being Abu who people find suspicious because of previous games. If Shinichi dies and is a townie, we can place the people who voted him first and started the trend under mafia suspicion, if he is scum we can clear those people of suspicion for the time being, narrowing our mafia search.Militus said: I can come to any conclusion I would like so I feel it's better you explain it to me because some of your posts read like scum posts I have seen in previous games. Like the one about D1 not giving any valid clues. This shows a mindset that isn't very town motivated to me.logic340 said: Read what you just said again, slowly, and you will see my motive.What if this majority is scum though? What do you think about the people on the train and Shinichi? I don't agree with you here. Town is blind, so when lynching a townie you can't blame everyone on the train. Scum can jump on a bus against one of their buddies if they're sure he can't be saved. If scum see a train against a townie is going well, they don't need to jump on it. Which means you can't blame a train for a mislynch and you can't clean everyone from a successful lynch. Pardon me if I don't get the rules? Doesn't the mafia have their own secret chat? Yes they do. I'm not sure how that makes it different though. Town can be in a train against a townie, since they don't know who is townie. If scum see town going for a townie, why would they jump on the train? Even more when you say you're going to be suspicious of the people on the train if the lynch flips town. If town is going for a scum and nothing can be done about that, why would they stand out trying to defend him? SuzakuTsubasa said: logic340 said: Not voting: Shinichi-Kun, DenjaX, PTYamin, SuzakuTsubasa, ironace 3 out of these 5 have posted a bit. I would like to know why all of are you not voting as yet. @ironace you have had 22 hours to feel people out and make observations. I need you to tell us what you feel you have learned thus far. @Shinichi-kun please do not go the entire phase without voting. @SuzakuTsubasa No one worth voting for yet? I don't have any real scum feeling here yet. I rarely vote on day 1, mostly because I don't feel confident enough on my reads. If one of my suspicions grows enough I may vote, or if there's a tie to break (even more when the tie leads to a no lynch.) wen294 said: C'mon Tubacabra, use your voting powers! Haha so the name is decided. I have to agree that seeing "Suzu" in a post can be confusing. When you say it that way it makes me feel a bit guilty to not have voted yet. xD SuzakuTsubasa said: wen294 said: Ah ohkey Pyro, thanks for answering that. That's one worry less. logic340 said: Yeah i know, but i'm finding Mil's play so far to be so extremely weird that i'm having my reservations. It feels less like intentionally going under the radar and more.... idk.... just messing around. He just gives of the feeling that he's not serious at all. I don't really feel comfortable voting him, allthough i do really want to. This response instead of answering the question bothers me. Couple it with the post below where you tell Coelestin that yo missed it though you clearly didn't make you look really bad. very comfortable in doing this Unvote: Vote: Militus @wen294 that thing you are worried about ironace doing I think this is the one you need to be looking out for. The Shinichi vote is exactly the type of thing you were talking about in regard to going with the flow. The last time I remember playing with scum!mil he was completely inactive (actually the whole scum team was.) I find his behaviour quite suspicious too, but what bothers me is that he tried to give an idea, which he didn't do last time. Since I'm not sure how experienced he is in mafia I don't know if he's always lurking like that. SuzakuTsubasa said: logic340 said: Not voting: Shinichi-Kun, DenjaX, PTYamin, SuzakuTsubasa, ironace 3 out of these 5 have posted a bit. I would like to know why all of are you not voting as yet. @ironace you have had 22 hours to feel people out and make observations. I need you to tell us what you feel you have learned thus far. @Shinichi-kun please do not go the entire phase without voting. @SuzakuTsubasa No one worth voting for yet? I don't have any real scum feeling here yet. I rarely vote on day 1, mostly because I don't feel confident enough on my reads. If one of my suspicions grows enough I may vote, or if there's a tie to break (even more when the tie leads to a no lynch.) SuzakuTsubasa said: Karote said: @Shinichi-Kun, @AbuHumaid, @DenjaX, @Sleipnirr, @Suzune-chan, @grrr, @PTYamin, @Floofs, @Militus, @PentaFlare, @RE1031, @yurkin, @SuzakuTsubasa, @ironace, @Rinto-kun, @reiynii, @wen294, @Coelestin Give me your top 3 suspects and I'll possibly put them in a list tomorrow depending which 3 gets the most votes. Militus, DenjaX, Logic. That's probably one of my biggest problem in mafia game, I only talk when I have something to say. I may end up voting this day though, to me Mil was clearly anti-town in his posts. I think a townie acting anti-town is like a scum. SuzakuTsubasa said: Since Logic claimed do we continue with the idea and pressure someone else? I don't mind putting my vote if you think it'll help. SuzakuTsubasa said: I don't see the point in voting Logic as long as no one counter claim Vote lynch: reiynii SuzakuTsubasa said: Shinichi-Kun said: SuzakuTsubasa said: I don't see the point in voting Logic as long as no one counter claim Vote lynch: reiynii wrong cause in an open setup no ones gonna counterclaim this early its suicide and stupid for town to out themselves to catch mafia. But I still don't see the point in voting someone who claimed as long as there's nothing to prove it wrong. If the claim is fake it'll be revealed sooner or later. wen294 said: Hm? Why? Did you get what you wanted? If so what was that? Cause i haven't noticed much that could sway your opinion tbh so i don't get where this is coming from. I was voting him because of his vote on logic. As long as nothing comes to say he lied, I don't see any reason to lynch him. Vote lynch: Militus I'm not sure if I'll be back around phase change so I'm placing it here like I said. His posts were clearly anti-town to me. And he doesn't seem to come back today. SuzakuTsubasa said: logic340 said: RE1031 said: those two and PTY. logic340 said: gun to my head town. I'm more interested in the less active players honestly. Yeah, what's annoying is there's no strategy talk at night, so we can't post actions last minute to avoid interception. Especially Militus and Abu. Also I know Suzaku has posted some but I don't really have an impression. Offering their vote for claims is about all I remember? I guess I didn't do much more day 1. I offered to vote to help put pressure on people if we followed Penta's plan (though I never intended to end the day with a pressure vote.) I voted for Reiynii when he voted for you. Then I voted Mil. wen294 said: logic340 said: Yeah Tubacabra has been amazingly underwhelming so far :Also I know Suzaku has posted some but I don't really have an impression. Offering their vote for claims is about all I remember? I mean i haven't played with him in a year or so but from what i remember he was pretty okey? Well that was my first game and like i said long ago so yeh not like that holds much water. I can't really meta read him unfortunatly. I may not be as active as I used to be, even though I'm trying. I haven't played mafia in half a year, my last game was in October. I may be a bit slower to read and react. logic340 said: RE asked a question yesterday that I'd like to revisit. ironace was leading the vote and garnered suspicion from most yet no one had him in their "Captain's list" why is that? Maybe they thought he was going to get lynched anyway? When Karote asked for the list, Iron's train was quite big if I remember correctly. logic340 said: @AbiHumaid, @Militus, @PTYamin, @SuzakuTsubasa, and @ironace I don't do this often but I want reads from you five. Top 3 Town and top 3 mafia. They dying have to be correct but I want to know who you feel the easy you do about each. We need to see how you all are thinking. @Rinto-kun cine bake some observations and then drift back into obscurity. @Suzune-chan thoughts on my #1556 and the ensuing conversation with Shinichi? @DenjaX your needed on segregation duties stat! Sure. I'm excluding Karote from any "top town" obviously, and you as long as nothing comes up I don't see why we would suspect you. My top towns are: Shinichi, he spent the first day catching up, I was wondering how would day 2 be, to me it's starting good. I don't see him acting in an unusual way. Coelestin, she seems to be really scumhunting since day 1, her reactions give me a town feeling. Penta, it's more of a gut feeling, but he feels different from what I remember of scum!penta (I haven't played with him in a while though.) Top scums are: Yurkin, has voted PTYamin around the beginning of day 1, then went for quite some time talking about mechanics. When asked about her vote she only said "I don't see a reason to move it" but never gave any reason to have it to begin with. Seems extremely focused on PTY. Mil, he posted a bit day 1, but nothing useful, just fluff and vague stuff. I'm not even convinced that he has read the thread. I know, as Coelestin said, anti town =/= scum, but I think they can be a threat to town too, since they can take people's attention. Voting for him could be a waste though since we don't know when he'll come back or how he's going to play. I wonder if a night action wouldn't be the right thing to not waste a lynch, like vig shot or cop (maybe cop would be better investigating active players.) Third one would be Denja, but since he's playing now I'd like to see how he goes day 2 since we haven't seen him day 1. And I don't think any of grr's claim will be real, so maybe we shouldn't spend too much time on them. RE1031 said: logic340 said: it's probably Denja Not going to fight with it. Ok pretty certain it's not Militus at this point he didn't post. I need Militus to post asap. I don't exactly like his gameplay but I think he may be town which is a bad combination. What makes you think he's town? Is it just because he's "too scummy to be scum"? Oh, the post ended up bigger than I thought. Sorry about that. SuzakuTsubasa said: yurkin said: SuzakuTsubasa said: I don't want to spend the rest of the day phase with a vote on Mil while not knowing if he'll even show up and I'm not sure who to vote for yet. @yurkin Are you going to wait for PTY to show up like day 1? pfft lol maybe what i said d2 wasnt clear enough for you tsubasa? "pfft"? Indeed seems like it wasn't. Do you mean this? yurkin said: @logic340 Why vote yamin right away after the start of phase? He's probably not even here to answer similar to yesterday. It's the only post I found on day 2 telling a bit about what you think. With a couple saying how he's going to get replaced anyway. Vote lynch: yurkin Then let me ask another question: the usual "who are your top 3 towns and top 3 scums?" How the heck did I miss all of these posts from Suzaku? Just look at these posts guys, they feel sooooo smooth. Suzaku is like town's silent helper. You, I like you. -I am not asking for a whoa reaction I am asking you to read the entire thing and give some God Damned feedback. Not asking too much since that is what I need to do to figure people out. Your refusal makes it much easier to vote for you and gain the support I need for you lynch. "What does it do besides make you feel good about yourself" These are the types of useless comments you make to paint people. If you don't notice yourself doing it I am bringing it to your attention and telling you it needs to stop if you are town. This is some scummy as shit and a horrible way to defend yourself. -Smart ass answers don't help you cause either. You have a brain and I know you know how to use it so answering like this instead of answering the question you could have answered isn't cute it's annoying and something I expect from scum. - heh sorry but i know my own meta better than you do. - I did not miss it but i knew coelestin left some of his posts unquoted. - okey i only read the personal comments part. But the part that was in a spoiler tag was probably a list with his posts and in short what they contained, because that's usually what you put there. What posts you were referring to was clear enough just from reading your comments though tbh. Also didn't read the questions part. They won't matter if they don't get an answer and if they do get an answer i'll find out what the question was anyway. Still don't know what you want in terms of feedback, or why you suddenly demand it from me now when you normally don't. What's the point of saying "yup yup, right on track logic"? Oh and i even say stuff like "not like it's gotta do much except maybe give a pat on the back of your own ego" in real life so no i don't intend to paint people with it, allthough i am somewhat aware i'm pretty capable of getting people angry. I myself don't see stuff like that as offensive at all though so it's pretty hard for me stop. Most people i interact with don't get offended by that kind of stuff either and my sister is practically even worse with it than me so yeah, that's a thing. - Then don't ask pointless questions. If you ask "will you try to be usefull" in a game like this the only possible reply you're gonna get is either a positive or a smart ass answer. Who in their right mind is gonna say "nope i'm gonna try and sabotage this entire day phase" |
Jun 11, 2017 8:37 AM
#2069
Also, my plan also serves a purpose on pressuring scum to git gud. They have to really make a fake case in order to force a mislynch. By setting this proposal in motion, people will have to think twice and make sure what theyre doing legitimate, otherwise, things wil become questionnabke later on. I dont mind not voting again so that the votes will be more apparent. I can just defend myself anyway if I get POEd. |
Jun 11, 2017 8:40 AM
#2070
DenjaX said: Also, my plan also serves a purpose on pressuring scum to git gud. They have to really make a fake case in order to force a mislynch. By setting this proposal in motion, people will have to think twice and make sure what theyre doing legitimate, otherwise, things wil become questionnabke later on. I dont mind not voting again so that the votes will be more apparent. I can just defend myself anyway if I get POEd. how many more ppl u need to claim |
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Jun 11, 2017 8:46 AM
#2071
logic340 said: But that's like a vig saying "if you don't agree with me i'll shoot you" ;w;wen294 said: You don't have to use yourself as an example since you are the one that disagree you are the problem you so speak of with the plan. So I ask you to join hands with us and make it so you are not the problem it's that simple. If we get the majority to agree then the minority will have to work with us or face lynch. That's kind of how majority works.logic340 said: wen294 said: While this is a reason it's not a valid reason because you are the one working against the plan actually working. You cannot make yourself the problem with the plan then say hey there's a problem. If you are down with the plan then we don't have to worry about more then 5 votes so stop being the issue and help out?DenjaX said: it's cool to outnumber scum and all but it's not like all townies always agree on the lynch candidate you know?logic340 said: Karote, you(hider), Perkaholic and 2 who are willing to claim.me likey. Who do you consider confirmed besides Karote tho? So there should be a maximum of 5 confirmed town because it already outnumbers scum combined. I should have thought about this since day one but i was inactive but I am sure it is still not too late to propose it. So I actually want the Perkaholic to claim too to confirm that none of the players day 1 got the double voting perk today and make sure they dont attempt to get cute this phase in case they were scum. I don't really see why the rest should just agree with 5 peeps lynching somebody they don't want to see lynched. I'd rather have us not lynch a townie even if it means not getting a perk for the confirmed townies. In the end that means you might have to consider the posibility of needing more than 5 people to successfully lynch someone. This quote below is actual reasons for not wanting to do it not what you said sorry try again. *sigh* well whatever. logic340 said: My thing is how is it Role Fishing when the person in question asked them who they though he was? Also the fact that reiynii did something earlier that was actually a role fish compared to this yet you didn't bring it up is bothersome. This is why I feel like you are painting people rather than actually trying to figure them out. You told me about your town meta right well as town you don't have to paint people as scum that is from my meta on you so why are you doing it here? Hmkey i can see where you're coming from here. I did not take anonymous' "who do you think i am huehuehue" serious so trying to actually guess who he/she was didn't really cross my mind. That's why yurkin's post felt like it came out of nowhere to me. Somebody, i think RE but not sure, already pointed that out shortly after i made the post. |
Jun 11, 2017 8:50 AM
#2072
wen294 said: logic340 said: wen294 said: I doubt it and are you rolefishing here? Hmkey i can see where you're coming from here. I did not take anonymous' "who do you think i am huehuehue" serious so trying to actually guess who he/she was didn't really cross my mind. That's why yurkin's post felt like it came out of nowhere to me. Somebody, i think RE but not sure, already pointed that out shortly after i made the post. I just want to say you are using the wrong context here. When yurkin made that guess, it was because ironace was hinting at his role, not because anonymous was messing around with the messages. ironace said something along the lines of "my role loses its power if it becomes known" or something like that. I came to a similar conclusion as yurkin, so I don't think she was rolefishing as ironace intentionally hinted at his role. |
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Jun 11, 2017 8:55 AM
#2073
wen294 said: - It's kinda funny how pissed you are with that because i actually didn't mean anything with it. Before you, penta came at me and voted for me, I asked if he had any questions and he said he didn't want to ask any questions. Then you come at me and say something about questions without asking any, so i wanted to know if you actually intended to ask questions or just vote me and nothing more like Penta did. - heh sorry but i know my own meta better than you do. - I did not miss it but i knew coelestin left some of his posts unquoted. - okey i only read the personal comments part. But the part that was in a spoiler tag was probably a list with his posts and in short what they contained, because that's usually what you put there. What posts you were referring to was clear enough just from reading your comments though tbh. Also didn't read the questions part. They won't matter if they don't get an answer and if they do get an answer i'll find out what the question was anyway. Still don't know what you want in terms of feedback, or why you suddenly demand it from me now when you normally don't. What's the point of saying "yup yup, right on track logic"? Oh and i even say stuff like "not like it's gotta do much except maybe give a pat on the back of your own ego" in real life so no i don't intend to paint people with it, allthough i am somewhat aware i'm pretty capable of getting people angry. I myself don't see stuff like that as offensive at all though so it's pretty hard for me stop. Most people i interact with don't get offended by that kind of stuff either and my sister is practically even worse with it than me so yeah, that's a thing. - Then don't ask pointless questions. If you ask "will you try to be usefull" in a game like this the only possible reply you're gonna get is either a positive or a smart ass answer. Who in their right mind is gonna say "nope i'm gonna try and sabotage this entire day phase" -I am not pissed an you know that. You saw pissed logic in gakkougurashi! I am going a very good job of keeping my composure this game. As stated I changed my vote and went to bed. I had asked plenty of questions so why are you asking me if I was doing what Penta did when it clearly was not? -I don't ever trust self meta whether you think you know it better or not. Just like I don't expect you to trust my self meta. -What is the point in saying this? Are you going to quote the posts and say that Coelestin left them out because they didn't support her narrative? If not what is the point of this other than slander and to make others look bad? I would think this is your game had I just went through two town games where you didn't do it. -The thoughts section could have gotten more attention than you gave it. Why demand from just you? I asked Shinichi multiple time, I have posted the actual ISO or a link ot it something like 5 times and tagged everyone about it. I am on you because we are currently talking. You could ask other why they haven't commented but maybe that is doing too much to figure others out for you? -Letting people know what you agree and disagree with amounts to a lot more than a pat on the bag (which I do not want). It amounts to a read on you based on what you put into the thread but you feel like you need to hide what you feel and limit what you put out there. This is behavior I expect form scum not from town. -How you going to tell me not to ask pointless questions when I have caught you doing it multiple times here? Hypocrite much? I am more than happy to lynch your ass today. |
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Jun 11, 2017 8:55 AM
#2074
RE1031 said: I didn't see that as a hint towards anonymous at all tho. Imho the role won't even change all that much if it's known who the player is.wen294 said: logic340 said: wen294 said: My thing is how is it Role Fishing when the person in question asked them who they though he was? Also the fact that reiynii did something earlier that was actually a role fish compared to this yet you didn't bring it up is bothersome. This is why I feel like you are painting people rather than actually trying to figure them out. You told me about your town meta right well as town you don't have to paint people as scum that is from my meta on you so why are you doing it here?I doubt it and are you rolefishing here? Hmkey i can see where you're coming from here. I did not take anonymous' "who do you think i am huehuehue" serious so trying to actually guess who he/she was didn't really cross my mind. That's why yurkin's post felt like it came out of nowhere to me. Somebody, i think RE but not sure, already pointed that out shortly after i made the post. I just want to say you are using the wrong context here. When yurkin made that guess, it was because ironace was hinting at his role, not because anonymous was messing around with the messages. ironace said something along the lines of "my role loses its power if it becomes known" or something like that. I came to a similar conclusion as yurkin, so I don't think she was rolefishing as ironace intentionally hinted at his role. |
Jun 11, 2017 8:57 AM
#2075
wen294 said: What are you even talking about? reiynii was dead by the time Anonymous started in with the guess who I am shit. You have completely misrepresented what I was saying and showed that you have no idea what I am talking about.logic340 said: wen294 said: I doubt it and are you rolefishing here? Hmkey i can see where you're coming from here. I did not take anonymous' "who do you think i am huehuehue" serious so trying to actually guess who he/she was didn't really cross my mind. That's why yurkin's post felt like it came out of nowhere to me. Somebody, i think RE but not sure, already pointed that out shortly after i made the post. |
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Jun 11, 2017 9:06 AM
#2076
wen294 said: RE1031 said: I didn't see that as a hint towards anonymous at all tho. Imho the role won't even change all that much if it's known who the player is.wen294 said: logic340 said: wen294 said: My thing is how is it Role Fishing when the person in question asked them who they though he was? Also the fact that reiynii did something earlier that was actually a role fish compared to this yet you didn't bring it up is bothersome. This is why I feel like you are painting people rather than actually trying to figure them out. You told me about your town meta right well as town you don't have to paint people as scum that is from my meta on you so why are you doing it here?I doubt it and are you rolefishing here? Hmkey i can see where you're coming from here. I did not take anonymous' "who do you think i am huehuehue" serious so trying to actually guess who he/she was didn't really cross my mind. That's why yurkin's post felt like it came out of nowhere to me. Somebody, i think RE but not sure, already pointed that out shortly after i made the post. I just want to say you are using the wrong context here. When yurkin made that guess, it was because ironace was hinting at his role, not because anonymous was messing around with the messages. ironace said something along the lines of "my role loses its power if it becomes known" or something like that. I came to a similar conclusion as yurkin, so I don't think she was rolefishing as ironace intentionally hinted at his role. The fun of it would be gone, for anon. For the rest of us, a goddamn relief. I mean, to each and their own. I thought ironace might have been anon from that, as yurkin did. So I didn't find it suspicious at all. Plus I would not put that post in the realm of rolefishing because rather than trying to find out who is which role, she was just trying to find out ironace's role (who, again, intentionally made it a point for us to guess his role). |
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Jun 11, 2017 9:11 AM
#2077
wen294 said: So the way to look at this is as if we all agree. What happens when one person steps out of line on something we all agreed upon? Mafia cannot agree to this or they limit themselves to NK and are at the mercy of town during the day and SK at night. From a town perspective this plan is a masterpiece and should have no one against it unless your selfish pride is more important than our shared win condition?logic340 said: But that's like a vig saying "if you don't agree with me i'll shoot you" ;w;wen294 said: logic340 said: I'm just using myself as an example there, it could be anyone that doesn't agree with who is being lynched and the current playerbase - 5 is still bigger than 5.wen294 said: While this is a reason it's not a valid reason because you are the one working against the plan actually working. You cannot make yourself the problem with the plan then say hey there's a problem. If you are down with the plan then we don't have to worry about more then 5 votes so stop being the issue and help out?DenjaX said: it's cool to outnumber scum and all but it's not like all townies always agree on the lynch candidate you know?logic340 said: Karote, you(hider), Perkaholic and 2 who are willing to claim.me likey. Who do you consider confirmed besides Karote tho? So there should be a maximum of 5 confirmed town because it already outnumbers scum combined. I should have thought about this since day one but i was inactive but I am sure it is still not too late to propose it. So I actually want the Perkaholic to claim too to confirm that none of the players day 1 got the double voting perk today and make sure they dont attempt to get cute this phase in case they were scum. I don't really see why the rest should just agree with 5 peeps lynching somebody they don't want to see lynched. I'd rather have us not lynch a townie even if it means not getting a perk for the confirmed townies. In the end that means you might have to consider the posibility of needing more than 5 people to successfully lynch someone. This quote below is actual reasons for not wanting to do it not what you said sorry try again. *sigh* well whatever. |
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Jun 11, 2017 9:12 AM
#2078
RE1031 said: DenjaX said: Also, my plan also serves a purpose on pressuring scum to git gud. They have to really make a fake case in order to force a mislynch. By setting this proposal in motion, people will have to think twice and make sure what theyre doing legitimate, otherwise, things wil become questionnabke later on. I dont mind not voting again so that the votes will be more apparent. I can just defend myself anyway if I get POEd. how many more ppl u need to claim @DenjaX |
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Jun 11, 2017 9:17 AM
#2079
Where did Karote and his lists go? Thinking... |
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Jun 11, 2017 9:33 AM
#2080
PentaFlare said: Yeah it was part of the reason I scum read him before my death since he discredited it but I felt it was a great way to get reads on people who just saw my scum game in EEM. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Being aware of how you appear to others is a really powerful tool because it helps you catch someone trying to force a mislynch on you or catch someone giving a townread that is way to strong for what you've done. Both of those players would be scum. Really? That's hilarious now that you mention it. It's probably because Fo was SK, because what I just said is advice he gave me way back. I think you have a tendency to give yourself too strong of a townread though, because you can see the town motivation behind everything you do, but a lot of it is NAI. |
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Jun 11, 2017 9:38 AM
#2081
yurkin Day 1: #232 - Asks logic if executioner is something like a bomb #241 - Tells ironace it's fun to vote I RVS she fell asleep and missed her chance. #249 - Says she agrees with Shinichi about not mass claiming. Says some roles lose their worth. #253 - Tells RE she doesn't understand how the Executioner deters role claiming. #260 - Tells Karote she thought to vote Yamin in RVS but RVS is over. #261 - Tells RE that logic may know more about Executioner but she though strongman of sorts though she doesn't see why that would e hidden. #266 - Thanks Karote for giving his blessing and votes Yamin #275 - Tells Coelestin that leaving the door open is better than locking it on town #278 - Tell Penta she is ot so sure about the jumper because it sounds complicated. Could see (?) being a countermeasure thinks it should pressure as well to be vialed. #279 - Tells Floofs it was good of them to take the initiative in asking Abu questions. Says he died to earl to get to know him last time and she wants to ask him some herself. #280 - Asks Abu to answer floofs #277, says she is really curious to hear the answer. #292 - Asks for clarification on what ironace meant by neutral. #299 - Tells Karote it seems better to save the Captain's list for later but if it was her she would use it because it looks Fu. #314 - Tells ironace the Miller seems useless. He is basically vanilla town who checks mafia. #317 - Tells wen she has been doing the same thing he is calling ironace out for. #326 - Explains to Karote why quoting doesn't work for her. #358 - Tells logic she finds it weird she isn't I his list of suspicions (inactive) people. #383 - Tells reiynii she sees where Abu is coming from I regard to logic considering they were scum team in EEM. Logic is someone to wary of but he feel like usual town logic, also admits to e wrong often. #386 - Asks logic if Coelestin is dangerous says she hadn't heard of that. #399 - Explains to sleipnirr about ironace being suspicious of grrr ad ot voting him. Says the game will turn into a sheep fest for the perks. Says she wants to see what Coelestin thinks #409 - Says Militus is here and wonders when Yamin will show up. #432 - Tells sleipnirr that she hadn't though about people experience to their advantage like that. Says he theory could works also as she doesn't want to exclude possibilities. #435 - Tells logic she knows ironace was suspicious of grrr and Penta she was referring to his comment about Shinichi being either town or mafia but ow TPR. Says she doesn't know where Coelesti asked him to vote Shinichi with her. #437 - Tells Miitus we have discussion so we don't lynch a random person. Asks if their plan needs Shinichi to die or if any sacrifice will do. #714 - Tells Coelestin she sees no reason to move her vote from PTYamin #721 - Tells Karote Penta, Militus, PTYamin for the Captains list #722 - Tells logic she isn't intentionally benig under the radar. #724 - Says grrr is a funny guy. Asks him for reads because she refuses his offer. #725 - Agrees with RE that with mafia and TPR running around Karote should e wary of top 3 vote getters for list. Says Karote should use his ability how he sees fit. #730 - Tells Floofs given that perks are given out RNG it seems to her that town has a better chance due to numbers. She can see how people going after perks would screw with vote analysis. She's not a fan of jumping random trains as it feels like taking orders and wants people to decide for themselves. #739 - Tells Coelsetin that she doesn't like to change her vote unless she changes her mind. She will keep her vote on PTYamin until they show ad change her mind or she fids a better suspect. #758 - Says that Castle Panic and EEM were both open setup. Explains how she believes Penta's plan works. #763 - Tells Penta she doesn't feel her vote will cause much pressure as she doesn't like to use her vote like that. She doesn't mind questioning and will do that. Only flaw is people like Yamin we cannot get answers from. #768 - Asks Penta since he plays open-setup else where what is the win/loss ratio. Asks shouldn't it e impossible for scum to win? #770 - Says if Penta's idea rums well then town should have an easy win #861 - Explains to Shinichi why she feels logic revealing his role was good for town. #873 - Tells Karote she wonders why no one suspects her RE and Coelestin either. #921 - Informs Penta that the interrogators ability unlocks on D3 so grrr cannot be checked until then. #939 - Tells ironace she thinks he is Anonymous. #946 - Agrees with wen telling ironace it's bad to ask people to guess his role but she loves guessing stuff and cannot help it. #954 - Tells grrr while his offer is tempting to use it on someone more important the her. Says she likes watching him claim. #962 - Tells wen she was not role fishing as ironace asked people to guess his role. reiynii made a similar guess that yurkin as Anonymous #977 - Tells RE she doesn't see how she sounds similar to reiynii and asks where what sounds similar. #983 - Tells logic he provably cannot tell when she is joking. Says she finds grrr's claiming shenanigans amusing. #991 - Tell wen she has sounded like that for quite a log time now. #1005 - Tell ironace the word choice/usage is why she thinks he is Anonymous. #1007 - Asks if Anonymous is Pyro #1025 - Tells ironace it's the word choice, but not to get to serious as she likes to guess but is often wrong. #1083 - Answers reiynii's call for help asks how she help him. #1109 - Says she did not expect so many claims ad she doesn't know now to react to the TPR claim. Day 2: #1333 - Tells logic she guesses he hid behind Yamin #1340 - Tells Abu logic would be dead if he hid behind Floofs and to make another guess. #1377 - Says no point I speculating night kill and it's good that there was only one kill. #1394 - Asks grrr if he scum reads her now. Asks him to explain what he thinks happened. #1404 - Asks grrr if he thinks mafia killed Floofs says she doesn't see a reason why Floofs of all people. #1414 - Asks logic why vote for Yami right away when they probably wont be around this phase either. #1427 - Questions logic saying that the "Plenty of Time" post was the scummiest thing he has seen? Asks if he feels he was trolled by Militus but they are in his town list. #1435 - 2am going to bed #1442 - Says she didn't see where Militus claimed Anonymous and says she thought it was obvious. Questions him further about Yamin. #1451 - Tells ironace he doesn't lose much from not knowing who Anonymous is since their opinions were all jokes anyway. #1457 - Tells logic there could e plenty of IRL circumstances for Yamin's from posting. She isn't defending them but hasn't seen logic like this before. #1464 - Going to sleep for real #1598 - Still hasn't read everything but sees logic is doing an ISO on her. Says she was sick D1 and doesn't remember much of what she had written. #1601 - Tells logic reading her ISO would be awkward there is a reason she doesn't read her own posts. #1603 - Tells logic she thinks he hid behind Yamin and is playing theatre game. #1606 - Tells logic she feels he's messing around which she is not used to from him. Says she is trying to interpret it. #1609 - Tells logic she will take him at his word for now but still doesn't understand it. Asks if PTY is SK or Mafia won't they get modkilled. #1612 - Tells logic she feels silly she forgot about replacements #1613 - Asks logic what Este Kuchi Kuchi is since Denja isn't around to answer. #1618 - Tells logic she doesn't know whether to feel good or bad that Denja doesn't want to tickly her. #1621 - Tells logic she doesn't know and it could be anything since it's Denja. #1638 - Asks Denja why he will tickle anyone besides her. #1639 - Explains to Suzaku why she left her vote on Yamin D1, says if they find it scummy she can't do anything about it. #1731 - Tells Suzaku that maybe what she said D2 about Yamin wasn't clear enough #1753 - Says she wants to answer Suzaku but she is going to bed. #1959 - Tells Denja she likes his proposal. Says it's easier to play as vanilla town and she doesn't care much for the perks. Says she is fine with the perks landing in the hands of confirmed town. #1961 - Tells logic that the difference between them is huge when it comes to correct reads. Finds it hard to believe he only has 2 scum leans this far into the game. #1975 - Asks Tsubasa if they scum read her to her for not moving her vote and anything else. Explains again why she didn't move her vote. Says she said it earlier and feels that Tsubasa ignored it. #1983 - Asks logic who he wants to join him. Asks if it was only to conf town since he liked Denja's plan #1999 - Says she scum reads Penta and wen. Says she believes they are unaligned so SK/mafia if both scum but she has her doubts. Says that Militus behavior is scummy and she doesn't want to ignore scum in plain sight. Says she feels Penta is being hypocritical this game and says his play feels similar to other mafia she has seen in past games. #2007 - Says she like Coelestin and RE for town. She wants to place grrr their but says he feels a bit unusual this game. #2065 - Tells RE that >___< is what Togs would do. Thoughts: #260 and #266 - Says she wanted to vote Yamin in RVS but it's over still votes Yamin 6 post later? #279 - Says she wants to ask Abu questions lets see if she follows up. #292 - Asks for clarification but doesn't tag the person who needs to clarify it. Look for follow up to this. #317 - I really like this post and I will have to look for wen's response later. I think she gets tow points for this? She could have just let this slide here's no need for mafia to point this out. #326 - Though she misunderstood what I was doing there I get the same feeling as #317 #437 - Kind of like this line of questioning wish I would have see more interactions right after. #722 - After seeing all these posts I am believer in this. #730 - Generally I feel like scum would feel pressure to move here in an effort to try ad look tow but yurkin doubles down on her vote. #946 - More unneeded attention I dot think scum bring on themselves? #954 - Not sure what to make of this one. Could be mafia not wanting attention but feels more like just knowing there are other better roles than hers. #962 - Great defense against a bogus claim form wen. #1414 - I really like this post and what followed for a few reasons. 1. She is wondering why I am parking my vote on an inactive player that we have no read on. She voted them yesterday but sees the futility in this effort. 2. I am basically confirmed town at this point and she is not afraid to call me out for BS (something town should be doing). 3. Because it's someone she voted all D1 she is brining negative attention to herself by even questioning me (SuzakuTsubasa was drawn that way). #1638 - Doesn't look like much but I like that she asked Denja why she is the exception. #1731 - Doesn't seem like the type of response that would come from scum given that Suzaku misrepresented her though it's possible. #1975 - Trying to understand Tsubasa's mindset is a townie thing. #1999 - Reads as asked for by Tsubasa these feel good not following others or going with the flow. #2007 - Reads as asked for by Tsubasa these feel a bit safe but I can understand them. Questions @yurkin: I didn't realize Yamin was basically a RVS vote for you. Why is it you felt there was no one better to vote for in #714? Why leave an RVS for an entire phase I will need evidence of where you have done this in other games. What are your suspicions of Penta for? What are your suspicions of wen for? How do you currently feel about ironace? Conclusion: So the yurkin train stared up before I finished this. There are some really town looking posts D1 and there is the RVS vote that lasted all phase and not much in the way of reads D2. I would say slight town lean based on liking the townie things more than the Vote. They are way more active than we have given them credit for. Not seeing any major scum markers as the RVS not moving imo is more likely to come from town. @Shinichi-kun it's done |
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Jun 11, 2017 9:47 AM
#2082
Well from the looks of it i won't avoid a lynch without a claim so I have to do this sooner rather than later: I'm Tachanka, the vigilante Did not use night action N1, if there's anyone you wanna see dead just gimme a heads up before N2. If you wanna check you can just cop me or hide behind me or whatever really. |
Jun 11, 2017 9:50 AM
#2083
Oh btw @logic340, as for that question of older games where Yurkin left RVS vote for entire D1: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1614195&show=0 I looked it up earlier when she said she did that, cause i couldn't really remember her doing so. Not sure about other games but it checks with that one. |
Jun 11, 2017 9:51 AM
#2084
Anonymous: The way people are opposing denja's plan, they can be scum read. The situation here calls for denja's plan to be put into action. Any other way and we will be running in circles. If we lynch a townie, we will have a smaller list of possible suspects for later. |
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Jun 11, 2017 9:56 AM
#2085
Votes so far! ironace (1) - ( Rinto-kun) DenjaX (1) - (Karote) SuzakuTsubasa (1) - ( Suzune-chan) grrr (1) - (Sleipnirr) Yurkin (1) - (grrr) AbuHumaid (1) - (RE1031) wen294 (4) - (coelestin,Shinichi-kun,Logic340,Pentaflare) Pentaflare (1) - Abuhumaid) Not voting: PTYamin, Militus, yurkin, DenjaX, ironace,SuzakuTsubasa,Wen294 Time until Night 2! TIMER! |
Jun 11, 2017 10:01 AM
#2086
Uncountered Claims: Logic - Hider - Hid behind Rinto N1 Shinichi - IQ - Wen got Double Tap PentaFlare - Doctor Wen - Vig Unvote: wont be voting an uncoutntered vig or doc claim time to move to my neutral pile or back to my neutral pile? |
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Jun 11, 2017 10:02 AM
#2087
Jun 11, 2017 10:11 AM
#2088
wen294 said: Same thing again here so it's NAI since she always does it. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1604888&show=700#msg50269256Oh btw @logic340, as for that question of older games where Yurkin left RVS vote for entire D1: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1614195&show=0 I looked it up earlier when she said she did that, cause i couldn't really remember her doing so. Not sure about other games but it checks with that one. |
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Jun 11, 2017 10:15 AM
#2090
Votes so far! ironace (2) - ( Rinto-kun, grrr) DenjaX (1) - (Karote) SuzakuTsubasa (1) - ( Suzune-chan) grrr (1) - (Sleipnirr) AbuHumaid (1) - (RE1031) wen294 (2) - ([Shinichi-kun, Pentaflare) Pentaflare (1) - Abuhumaid) Not voting: PTYamin, Militus, yurkin, DenjaX, ironace, SuzakuTsubasa, wen294, Coelestin, logic340 Time until Night 2! TIMER! |
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Jun 11, 2017 10:23 AM
#2092
grrr said: Coelestin said: grrr said: I am too tired. I will try to catch up later. But I agree with choine on this one. lynch: Shinchi He has to be stopped! Just kidding. Vote: grrr I think I get it now why your behavior seems so different than in Bungou Stray Dogs. In Bungou Stray Dogs, you were really forceful with your plan. Here, you were just aimlessly trying to get people to claim. There's a big difference. Typical traitor lol! And typical kaito ... I want to ask eventhough you reacted to these votes why didnt you react to mine? |
Jun 11, 2017 10:29 AM
#2093
grrr said: my vote keeps moving. I mean it could always find its way back to you while I keep searching for who is actually scum here?after 45 hours of day 2 we have 9 non voters ... |
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Jun 11, 2017 10:36 AM
#2094
DenjaX said: Coelestin said: this is short sighted. Limit scumhunting? Did I tell everyone to stop scumhunting? We already have town representatives so all we need to do is have them lynch our target. Look at day 1. People are bandwagoning for free perk lottery. Where is the scumhunting there? We were lucky it was just a tpr. Im proposing this idea to control the free perk giveaway and have people to actually scumhunt. Also goodluck scumhunting inactives.@DenjaX It's absolute democracy vs representative democracy lol. Your plan is flawed by the fact that it will limit the realms of scumhunting in this game. The votes and actions of people say more than a thousand words. I know you're all gung ho about game mechanics n stuff, but giving up clues that could point to one's alignment is not worth the perks. Game mechanics is part of the game, but it's not all there is to it. Penta is already doing bad with him pressing charges that already lead to multiple roleclaims. If what im proposing cannot stop massclaims then what are you proposing to do? Massclaiming early is way worse imo. It is already happening and it is like a domino effect. If you want a reference, look at role ladness where you also played. Just look at the massclaims. Sighs. Nothing can replace votes. A person intent always shines through the most in their votes. If we only let these 5 vote we're going to run into a wall eventually because it'll be easy for the others to pretend to be scum hunting and shift momentum. And yeah, I might as well be biased here cause I love scum hunting and getting reactions with my vote. I am willing to compromise though, if you can come up with a plan that still includes a voting system or something similar to it and your initial plan of using a town block to use the full potential of perks etc. then I think peeps like Suzu, Penta and I will be more open to it. And I never said that I have a plan against all this mass claiming, if you've seen my reaction to Penta's shenanigans then you know that I'm against it, but it doesn't mean that your plan is the right way to go either. |
Jun 11, 2017 10:38 AM
#2095
ok i i roughly read the posts but this is becoming stupid. Everyone is claiming as soon as they get under slight bit of pressure. I was going to vote for penta but since he claimed and and so has wen, so our list of suspects grows smaller. Has grrr claimed? I do think his plan of mass claiming worked in a roundabout way.And i dont like that. If everybody is claiming the game no longer becomes fun. vote:grrr Also, i dont remember who asked me this question but the reason i chose to deem suzaku and suzune as town is because i just cannot see then as scum for now. Maybe that will change later but for now i will lean towards them being town . |
Jun 11, 2017 10:40 AM
#2096
Votes so far! ironace (2) - ( Rinto-kun, grrr) DenjaX (1) - (Karote) SuzakuTsubasa (1) - ( Suzune-chan) grrr (2) - (Sleipnirr, ironace) AbuHumaid (1) - (RE1031) wen294 (2) - ([Shinichi-kun, Pentaflare) Pentaflare (1) - Abuhumaid) Not voting: PTYamin, Militus, yurkin, DenjaX, SuzakuTsubasa, wen294, Coelestin, logic340 Time until Night 2! TIMER! |
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Jun 11, 2017 10:46 AM
#2097
@Logic340, in your iso in #954 yurkin is talking about players not roles. She is usually (no offense here yurkin) not really a driving force for town, so i think she's referring to that. I don't think there's a hint to her role there, but i personally kinda feel that such a post would sooner come from town than scum. ironace said: Yeah that was me, was there any specific reason or post that gave you the impression or is it more akin to gut feeling?Also, i dont remember who asked me this question but the reason i chose to deem suzaku and suzune as town is because i just cannot see then as scum for now. Maybe that will change later but for now i will lean towards them being town . |
Jun 11, 2017 10:46 AM
#2098
Sleipnirr said: grrr said: Coelestin said: grrr said: I am too tired. I will try to catch up later. But I agree with choine on this one. lynch: Shinchi He has to be stopped! Just kidding. Vote: grrr I think I get it now why your behavior seems so different than in Bungou Stray Dogs. In Bungou Stray Dogs, you were really forceful with your plan. Here, you were just aimlessly trying to get people to claim. There's a big difference. Typical traitor lol! And typical kaito ... I want to ask eventhough you reacted to these votes why didnt you react to mine? I dont consider you being neither traitor neither kaito. Why would I react to you ? |
Jun 11, 2017 10:46 AM
#2099
vote: ironace I really hate to have go back to where I started. But if wen is telling the truth, then ironace has a higher chance of being scum. If he's not, well, like grrr says, let the real vigilante shoot him. And 2 of ironace's votes have been on players who voted for him first right before. Also I have little intention of going along with Denja's plan because he's given me little reason to actually trust him + he's not here. If he shows up maybe that'll be another story. Plus I have some thoughts on why grrr is acting this way. And I'd like to keep him alive. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Jun 11, 2017 10:46 AM
#2100
The_Pyromaani said: Anonymous: The way people are opposing denja's plan, they can be scum read. The situation here calls for denja's plan to be put into action. Any other way and we will be running in circles. If we lynch a townie, we will have a smaller list of possible suspects for later. Ahh yes, let's scum read people for having an opinion. It's like yesterday where people judged Penta for trying to force people into claiming. It's not alignment indicative. And I can tell you from experience that Suzu is often if not always against that kind of stuff. |
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