The score is lower than fuuka(If you had watched fuuka you know what this means), do you really think that these 2 episodes were so bad? I can't understand the hate
I dont think theres much hate on this particular series, its more becuz 1st ep was rather uneventful. Seems like 2nd ep didnt help it much either even tho it was viewed by many as a better episode.
Anyways, dw, if its a good series it'll rise eventually, much like that one Madhouse anime that aired last season. Started below 7.00 now its 7.7+
Just in general I would say the first 3 weeks score is something that isnt trustworthy
Robiiii said: I dont think theres much hate on this particular series, its more becuz 1st ep was rather uneventful. Seems like 2nd ep didnt help it much either even tho it was viewed by many as a better episode.
Anyways, dw, if its a good series it'll rise eventually, much like that one Madhouse anime that aired last season. Started below 7.00 now its 7.7+
Just in general I would say the first 3 weeks score is something that isnt trustworthy
Because the first two episodes are merely a prologue before the intrigue starts out. (for myself: because the illogicaly chained dialogues reminded me of Zeta Gundam)
I don't know. I was hooked up from the 1st episode, and it was one of the best 1st episode in my opinion. The anime feels similar to Charlotte but more serious
It's kind of slow and the characters didn't jump out as super interesting. The concept is pretty cool tho and it looks like it's going to be picking up with ep 3.
I never give votes to unfinished series, but if i had to give one right now, it definitely would be very low, it has an interesting premise but as of now the powers are there just to move the plot forward, the characters are sooooooooooooooo boring, for a show talking about emotions so much they sure don't show them a lot besides being sad and crying.
The animation is average at best and the story somehow feels at the same time fast and slow, they sure do things but at the same time in the first 2 episodes very little was truly meaningful to the plot and the "mistery" makes no sense as of now, it could get better, but right now i can't think of a single thing this anime does good
Zelev said: Scores don't mean much until after it finishes airing.
It really affects the amount of people who watch the show when it's airing tho. Most people judge whether to pick up a show by its rating for its first 1-3 episodes(for which MAL doesn't allow reviews for). And if the show turns out to be really good, it'd be a real shame.
It's even worse when the score is just pretty average tho, cuz then nobody would talk about it or try to justify the score and in the end the show would just be grouped with things that actually deserve that score, with barely anyone watching it afterward(likely fewer than when it aired, since it gets the most attention then), so the score would remain low, even if it has some redeeming qualities some people would watch for.
I've never give score to any unfinished series or finished season .
but when i see the score i'm just feel WT.... score is kind of low i would give this series 9/10 despise it not finished yet scores will be change in the future .
Maybe the question mark is more of Types or Styles more than quality of the anime
Well, episode one is indeed really stiff, progression and narration-wise. Haven't finished 2 yet since I couldn't find myself in the mood to finish it.
It is easy to understand why. Very viscous plot, emotionless dialogues, a very strange Hanazawa, sounding like a robot..And many people are already tired of such plots, since the time of Orange.
Zelev said: Scores don't mean much until after it finishes airing.
It really affects the amount of people who watch the show when it's airing tho. Most people judge whether to pick up a show by its rating for its first 1-3 episodes(for which MAL doesn't allow reviews for). And if the show turns out to be really good, it'd be a real shame.
It's even worse when the score is just pretty average tho, cuz then nobody would talk about it or try to justify the score and in the end the show would just be grouped with things that actually deserve that score, with barely anyone watching it afterward(likely fewer than when it aired, since it gets the most attention then), so the score would remain low, even if it has some redeeming qualities some people would watch for.
I don't know what to tell you? That's just how MAL works lol..
RobertBobert said: It is easy to understand why. Very viscous plot, emotionless dialogues, a very strange Hanazawa, sounding like a robot..And many people are already tired of such plots, since the time of Orange.
RobertBobert said: It is easy to understand why. Very viscous plot, emotionless dialogues, a very strange Hanazawa, sounding like a robot..And many people are already tired of such plots, since the time of Orange.
Dafaq does viscous plot mean o.O
In any case, I know of little anime, where 2-3 minutes last almost like 10.
The first episode was not really good to be honest, it was way to heavy on exposition and the flow of dialogue was completely unnatural. The way the main character introduced himself in front of his friend was cringe worthy.
It's not that they were bad. They were pretty good and the pace felt so good and relaxing~ plus it seems promising, 24 episodes based off a light novel. For now I could compare this anime to a lukewarm chamomile even with that death
But seriously, it's a somewhat interesting premise, but the wooden and stiff dialogue is off-putting. These teenagers act nothing like teenagers, including how they all talk to one another. And then you have the scene in episode 2 where the MC keeps cutting himself with the broken bottle in order to force the guy to go along with them, which was bizarre. They're all weirdoes.
Mormegil said: Because it's not more JoJo. For shame, David Pro.
But seriously, it's a somewhat interesting premise, but the wooden and stiff dialogue is off-putting. These teenagers act nothing like teenagers, including how they all talk to one another. And then you have the scene in episode 2 where the MC keeps cutting himself with the broken bottle in order to force the guy to go along with them, which was bizarre. They're all weirdoes.
lol that scene was ridiculous, I agree, I was "wtf is he doing, doesn't make any sense" :v
The show simply is awkwardly handled, episode 2 was a massive improvement but it kind of tows the line between having and atmosphere and being outright boring, It has potential and I'm hoping it does improve upon itself now that the set up is done but the show does deserve the reaction its got due to its shotty directing and pacing. Again the fact that ep 2 was so much of an improvement gives me hope but its also not very hard to top the first ep.
_Ako_ said: And here I thought the OP was Tyrel-senpai... xD
Damn...
I too was thrown way off by this
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,
tokiyashiro said:
Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me
RobertBobert said: It is easy to understand why. Very viscous plot, emotionless dialogues, a very strange Hanazawa, sounding like a robot..And many people are already tired of such plots, since the time of Orange.
Dafaq does viscous plot mean o.O
In any case, I know of little anime, where 2-3 minutes last almost like 10.
Interesting definition of "viscous plot" haha
But I'm glad to see someone also thought it felt much longer than it should...
smartie344 said: I kinda don't get why people score after the first few episodes? Like, what's the point? I would wait until almost halfway in.
Yes! If the anime will get 12/22/24/25 episodes, why people don't wait? lol
Exactly! It's really unfair to the staff who worked hard. It just has a slow start. That's really it.
Keep in mind the first 1-2 episodes of a show are supposed to be the ones that pull in the viewers in Japan. This is why there is that well-discussed issue with production where the first couple episodes may look great visually and then we start to see a falling off on the animation quality.
The thinking here is likely "well, if the show doesn't really grab me now (visually or plot-wise), how much more slow will it get down the line?" That's not really wrong,.especially for shows that are only one cour to start with. If it takes more than a third of the show's run (3-4 eps) to really get into the story, there's something wrong with the writing at that point.
RobertBobert said: It is easy to understand why. Very viscous plot, emotionless dialogues, a very strange Hanazawa, sounding like a robot..And many people are already tired of such plots, since the time of Orange.
Dafaq does viscous plot mean o.O
In any case, I know of little anime, where 2-3 minutes last almost like 10.
Interesting definition of "viscous plot" haha
But I'm glad to see someone also thought it felt much longer than it should...
Just as it seems to me, kuudere characters are not very well combined with long philosophical monologues. Because of this, viewing this title turns into quicksand.
Well, the first 2 eps the MC was basically able to completely understand everyone else after talking with them for 5 minutes, not to speak of Sumire, who knew information that she shouldn't have been able to as a high schooler.
Then, MC can completely understand how a mother feels after losing her child? The characters are pretty unrealistic altogether actually. I don't think I have to detail Haruki after these. Also, there is no explanation whatsoever about how they figured out Haruki's ability, since she only met the MC recently as the show started.
To me the scoring seems quite alright. Let's see how the time-skip fixes these issues, but it will probably just be a bandage on a griveous wound for me. So far it was basically high-schooler playing psychotherapist with the edgiest personalities possible and they try to fix this with a time skip. ^^
I normally try to refrain from judging a show too much after seeing just a few episodes of it, but the exposition in Sakurada Reset is just terrible like almost no other show I've ever seen.
For example, take the scene where the Tomoki and Kei are playing basketball in the first couple minutes of episode one. Maybe there were translation issues, but I've written out some of the dialogue from that scene:
- "There's a weird girl in your class, right, Tomoki?"
- "A weird girl? Oh, yeah! That weird chick with long hair. She's kinda like you."
- "Like me?"
- "She hardly ever talks, and she's stone-faced. She doesn't seem interested in the people around her. Her name's Misora Haruki."
- "If you ask me, I'd say I'm on the talkative side, and I'm pretty expressive. My name is Kei Asai. What's so similar about us?"
- "You both have similar auras! You guys seem insincere about all sorts of things."
- "Is that so?"
When I watch anime, I want to actually watch a story unfold, not read a story unfold. The point of exposition in a show is to explain detailed or complicated story points in an expedient fashion to move the story along- the point is not to cheat on things like character development!
In the above section of dialogue, the show is telling the viewer the personalities of the main characters instead of showing us their personalities through storytelling or show progression. Successful character development, in 99% of shows, does not stem from exposition. What's worse, in Sakurada Reset, they're trying to tell us the personalities of main characters we haven't even seen, yet. It's incredibly difficult to relate in any way to a character or their personality when you've yet to even see who they are.
So, the show has started off with abysmal character development. This is especially troubling for a show like Sakurada Reset that relies heavily on character interaction. Sadly, it also would seem that the show won't be going back to do proper character development, as evidenced by
the fact that they went and added a kiss scene in the second episode. No show should try to insert a romance before properly establishing the characters to the point where the viewers care about the romance, yet Sakurada Reset seems to believe it's already reached that point.
What really stuck with me, though, is the line where Kei tells his friend his name when there was zero reason for him to do so in context. What kind of a normal person just randomly tells their friend their name in the middle of a conversation about someone else entirely?! The only reason that line is in the show is as an excuse to tell us the name of the main character, but the placement and execution of the dialogue was horrendous. Not only that, but
after the reset, they even repeat the scene and the line!
As you can tell, I am not a fan of the way Sakurada Reset has handled exposition, dialogue, and character development through the first two episodes. The premise may be very good, but without a certain level of competency in execution, the show will still fall flat, and the first two episodes have not in the slightest convinced me that the level of competency required has been reached.
"I shall grieve, and I shall weep. But I shall never regret." ~ Rider, Fate/Zero ~
SkyDrop said: Most people are impatient so dropped with '1' score by judging based on 1 episode.Too shame.
I don't think I've ever seen an anime that didn't hook me in with the first episode and turned out to be good. After a few hundred series I can tell from the first episode if something appeals to me or offers any kind of experience I'm interested in. Not to mention there are 60 new TV anime this season. I can check out, but can't follow everything.
Though I rarely rate something I dropped. Especially if I dropped it before finishing a quarter of the episodes.
The first episodes are the 'invitiation card' of a show
This one presented lifeless evironments, weird and boring characters and is relying on cliffhangers plotwise.
The score is just a reflection of that and I can see why it's not worth for many to keep watching it.
I agree with you guys. The anime isn't any masterpiece. I just think that it doesn't deserve to be lower then a few animes that are the scum of the world
I hate it when people are quick to judge a first episode because "it was too slow."
I think in this case, subtle would be a better description than "slow" or boring. The subtlety was actually what kept me interested for a first impression; and it fits together perfectly with the stiff character types.
As for the "stiff" "emotionless" "dull" characters, this is intentional; they arent just poorly designed characters; theyre supposed to be that way. And it is the interaction between Kei and Haruki which is driving this series. Souma is also rather intriguing in her own way.
And for a show with a "slow" start, the plot surprisingly seems to have a clear direction; whereas every other new show Ive started this season, I have no clue where they are going.
As for the "stiff" "emotionless" "dull" characters, this is intentional; they arent just poorly designed characters; theyre supposed to be that way.
That is even worse if true.
dull, unexcitable character =/= shallow, static character design
There are plenty of well-made characters who are non-energetic/show little emotion
-Oreki from Hyouka
-Tanaka from Tanaka-kun is Always Listless
-Nagato from Haruhi
m-i-c-h-a-e-l said: I think in this case, subtle would be a better description than "slow" or boring. The subtlety was actually what kept me interested for a first impression; and it fits together perfectly with the stiff character types.
As for the "stiff" "emotionless" "dull" characters, this is intentional; they arent just poorly designed characters; theyre supposed to be that way. And it is the interaction between Kei and Haruki which is driving this series. Souma is also rather intriguing in her own way.
A agree. Except I don't think characters are exactly emotionless. They seem either suppressing emotions (Haruki) or being strangely good at keeping appearances. But as I read dialogues, watch their actions, I can't imagine that they don't feel anything. They care too much for this to be true.
There are plenty of well-made characters who are non-energetic/show little emotion
-Oreki from Hyouka
-Tanaka from Tanaka-kun is Always Listless
-Nagato from Haruhi
Do the creators give you a reason to care about those non energetic emotionless characters? can they hold a show on their own if the rest of the cast is just as dull? context matters here and in the context of this show we have dull characters in a dull story in a dull setting, not to mention the pacing is really bad, it might get better but for now there are no reasons given to care about these characters.