| another uneducated liberal parroting shit we've heard a ton of times yes trump is an asshole, no the media doesn't need extra encouragement to call him out on his bullshit. they already do that. i really wonder when these people will stop parroting shit and actually say something of use. last year leo gave a nice speech about climate change and everyone stopped giving a shit after a while |
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| I don't see anything wrong with being suspicious of Trump although she didn't really bring anything new to the table with her speech Though I don't really think Meryl Streep is your average Hollywood leftist activist (e.g. she identifies as a humanist rather than a feminist and thinks actions are more important than labels, contrary to many feminists) |
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| ..................who? Do I have to know who this person is? Sorry, I stopped watching TV altogether about 5 years ago. I found it better to search for info and news from various sources, indeally raw primary sources, throughout the internet instead. But speaking of Hollywood. This "response" video caught my attention: |
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 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| Oh wait, did she really say "principled press"? |
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| Better add them to your anti-Trump checklist. |
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| She must be still upset when eastwood side with trump. |
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| Another celebrity that feels the need to tell people what is right and what not. And, unsurprisingly, it's another woman. I wish they got off their high horse and took a step into the real world, because they clearly don;t know what it's like out there, else they'd be singing a different tune. |
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| lol liberals still thinking that the 2016 election was all about "muh hatred and muh raycissm" In more seriousness, I don't think her speech really adds anything to the table. |
| Haven't those dumb celebs yet figured out we don't give a damn about what they think? Go back to snorting coke and drink champagne, they're not a part of our real life, they are as fake as the characters they portray in their movies. |
| Signature? I ain't got no signature! I don't need no signature! I don't have to show you any stinkin' signature! |
| Meryl Sheep, just another Hollywood elitist completely disconnected from reality. Yawn. |
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SuperIdolNico said: The first part of that statement is very good and very appropriate. She only falls into the classic punditry failure of refusing to apply the standard to her attitudes toward the other side. After all, a huge portion of the disrespect and violence from this cycle has been coming from her side, which she chooses not to rebuke.http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/awards/meryl-streep-takes-donald-trump-golden-globes-n704571 In my opinion, this sounded very much like what Michael Moore said many moons ago.. "Disrespect invites disrespect. Violence incites violence. When the powerful use their position to bully others, we all lose," she added. "We need the principled press to hold power to account, to call him on the carpet for every outrage." So stunning, so brave. Preach it, woman! |
| Well....Fuck Donald Trump. Again....you have at LEAST half the nation (MORE in reality) who really don't like this man. We're not simply going to "come together" and unite under this buffoon. FUCK TRUMP! I hope he fails hard, and wish nothing but the worst for him. Yeah, go ahead call me salty...I give zero fucks. |
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| "Principled press?" Does such a thing exist? Is she talking about CNN? |
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JustALEX said: Well....Fuck Donald Trump. Again....you have at LEAST half the nation (MORE in reality) who really don't like this man. We're not simply going to "come together" and unite under this buffoon. FUCK TRUMP! I hope he fails hard, and wish nothing but the worst for him. Yeah, go ahead call me salty...I give zero fucks. 2nd stage of grief: "Anger". I give you credit that you were able to get past the 1st stage of "Denial". Many people are still stuck there. |
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Grey-Zone said: JustALEX said: Well....Fuck Donald Trump. Again....you have at LEAST half the nation (MORE in reality) who really don't like this man. We're not simply going to "come together" and unite under this buffoon. FUCK TRUMP! I hope he fails hard, and wish nothing but the worst for him. Yeah, go ahead call me salty...I give zero fucks. 2nd stage of grief: "Anger". I give you credit that you were able to get past the 1st stage of "Denial". Many people are still stuck there. lol. I think I was at anger a long time ago... In fact....I'm already at "Acceptance". I'm not one of these retards saying #NotMyPresident or whatever bullshit hashtag they got.. Trump won. He's our President for the next four years. I foresee this country going through a LOT of hardships because of him. And we got no one to blame but ourselves. |
JustALEX said: Grey-Zone said: 2nd stage of grief: "Anger". I give you credit that you were able to get past the 1st stage of "Denial". Many people are still stuck there. lol. I think I was at anger a long time ago... In fact....I'm already at "Acceptance". I'm not one of these retards saying #NotMyPresident or whatever bullshit hashtag they got.. Trump won. He's our President for the next four years. I foresee this country going through a LOT of hardships because of him. And we got no one to blame but ourselves. No that's still the anger stage. You are still treating this like a "game" or "competition" by saying things like "I want him to fail". Bargaining stage would be something like being cautiously optimistic about bi-partisian matters like the infrastructure bill that is in works. Depression stage would be something like foreseeing a bad results for the democrats in the 2018 mid-terms after acknowledging that the dems are being too extreme in doubling down on losing strategies. Acceptance stage would be to actually wish for the best results by the government, while, of course, still favoring one's own views on matters, but being open to methods that seem to work. To be fair, many Republicans didn't reach the Acceptance stage even after 8 years of Obama, so it's not that bad to be at the Anger stage when Trump didn't even enter office yet. |
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| Yeah whatever... Luckily, I understand that my life will not be vastly affected on a day to day basis... Some people out there are literally acting like the world is over. The reason I personally have such an adverse reaction to Trump is because of the long term effects. The GOP have shown over and over that they do NOT have average people's interests in mind. And I'm on of those "Average people". |
JustALEX said: Ironically, despite hating Trump and voting against him (twice), I can't be sure it won't affect me. Yeah whatever... Luckily, I understand that my life will not be vastly affected on a day to day basis... Some people out there are literally acting like the world is over. The reason I personally have such an adverse reaction to Trump is because of the long term effects. The GOP have shown over and over that they do NOT have average people's interests in mind. And I'm on of those "Average people". My core income (call it my day job) is still technically part time, and when the employer mandate was phased in, I suffered over a 5% drop in wages compared to the previous year - in spite of the usual raise. If that gets removed, either specifically or with the rest of the law, I could see my pre-ACA hours return (in fact, they could go higher since I live 15 miles closer now). That represents an income boost in the 4 digits just from the removal of the cap on my hours. As you might guess, I seriously don't think the Democrats have the "average" people in mind either. The sooner we get a viable third option, the better. |
| Lmao she's in her right to say whatever she wants. People saying actors shouldn't meddle with politics fail to realize Trump was a reality TV star. |
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| I'd rather watch American Football and Mixed Martial Arts than her terrible movies. |
| I thought it was great, pretty much hit the nail on the head about how disrespect and violence will breed more of just that. And when the paragon of hatred and bigotry is our president-elect, that's pretty startling. Definitely applaud her and anyone else for speaking out against him and his unacceptable, sociopathic behavior. Also find it hilarious that conservatives online and on Fox news are whining that the 'liberal hollywood elite' just don't get it and they're out of touch. If anything, they're the ones completely out of touch with the world around them. |
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| Meryl Streep should be dropped off in ISIS Syria and then we can watch her acting skills in one of their well produced films. Performance of a lifetime. |
| The football field isn't the only place where you could use a good line. |
| I'm about as dumb as they come and even I know better than to piss off the MMA crowd lol. |
| "Disrespect invites disrespect. Violence incites violence. When the powerful use their position to bully others, we all lose" Umm...hate to break it to ya Meryl, but the US have been doing that shit for ages. Long before the orange jackass was elected. |
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| See nothing inherently wrong with this, as I don't see anything wrong with using your resources (which fame is) for political activism , as a catalyst to speak about your political ideologies, or to support some cause. Of course your actions/words will and should be judged accordingly. For the most part I wasn't awed by her speech and I think talking about disrespect while shitting on other hobbies (football and MMA) was counter productive to say the least. I do wholeheartedly agree though that Trump's actions and words do embolden some behaviors that are not productive. |
| pretty much, i find it fucking hilarious people are commending her for her "bravery". brb going to yell out "black people deserve rights too" in front of the whole class next time I do a speech |
| We don't need Streep to denigrate Trump at the Golden Globes anyway, I read enough Letters To The Editor in the local newspaper trashing on The Poor Donald, and I live in Texas! |
| And he had to take to Twitter to whine about it. At least we know ahead of time what kind of president is about to take office. |
Comic_Sans said: basically how i feel, i think the only reason this is being brought up is the anti-trump people are getting confirmation bias through way of an echo chamber, and the insecure pro-trump people are finding more reasons to strawmen. Its just twisting things for political benefit on both sides with neither being particularly better than the other.I don't see anything wrong with being suspicious of Trump although she didn't really bring anything new to the table with her speech Though I don't really think Meryl Streep is your average Hollywood leftist activist (e.g. she identifies as a humanist rather than a feminist and thinks actions are more important than labels, contrary to many feminists) That said i would say meryl streep is in the "wrong" just cause she really isnt saying anything new or noteworthy, just kind of reiterating a pretty popular and honestly pretty fair criticsm. |
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Hias said: I thought it was great, pretty much hit the nail on the head about how disrespect and violence will breed more of just that. And when the paragon of hatred and bigotry is our president-elect, that's pretty startling. Definitely applaud her and anyone else for speaking out against him and his unacceptable, sociopathic behavior. Also find it hilarious that conservatives online and on Fox news are whining that the 'liberal hollywood elite' just don't get it and they're out of touch. If anything, they're the ones completely out of touch with the world around them. dont you think her flat out saying that would've been better instead of singling out the next president and pretty much encouraging the press to be hard on him. like, don't you think it's really ignorant of her to use her voice and influence on people to call out trump for something he's already been called out on, instead of adressing a serious hate crime that occurred during the week, that could partially be blamed on the fear mongering the media do against trump, whites, and republicans? she's genuinely just parroting opinions to garner popularity, and i dont really care about that cause why wouldn't she, but applauding her isn't really something people shouldn't be doing. |
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| also, liberals in hollywood are some of the most ignorant out of touch with reality people you'll find. even more so than conservatives most times, cause atleast conservatives try to educate themselves on politics. |
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Yomiyuki said: she's genuinely just parroting opinions to garner popularity I'll just ignore the rest of the post. I highly doubt 1/Meryl Streep needs a popularity boost and 2/Trashing an elected president (this one didn't get the majority of american electors, but it's still close) is such a good idea to garner popularity. I don't know, you're making it sound like it's obviously a great marketing strategy, when it actually looks kinda dangerous and stupid if you put some thought into it. |
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Clebardman said: Yomiyuki said: she's genuinely just parroting opinions to garner popularity I'll just ignore the rest of the post. I highly doubt 1/Meryl Streep needs a popularity boost and 2/Trashing an elected president (this one didn't get the majority of american electors, but it's still close) is such a good idea to garner popularity. I don't know, you're making it sound like it's obviously a great marketing strategy, when it actually looks kinda dangerous and stupid if you put some thought into it. i worded that wrong i mean she's just another spoke on the wheel, parroting liberal ideologies for the sake of virtue signaling. nothing was gained from her doing that, and it did nothing. encouraging the press to be prejudiced against trump does absolutely nothing. i like meryl a lot but this blatant ignorance of the state of our country is one of the dumbest things we'll see this year, i guarantee it. |
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Yomiyuki said: dont you think her flat out saying that would've been better instead of singling out the next president and pretty much encouraging the press to be hard on him. like, don't you think it's really ignorant of her to use her voice and influence on people to call out trump for something he's already been called out on, instead of adressing a serious hate crime that occurred during the week, that could partially be blamed on the fear mongering the media do against trump, whites, and republicans? she's genuinely just parroting opinions to garner popularity, and i dont really care about that cause why wouldn't she, but applauding her isn't really something people shouldn't be doing. Does it matter? We all knew who she was talking about, I thought it was a little classier than just saying "fuck Donald Trump" in a blunt way. I don't see it as fear mongering, fear mongering implies that it's not nearly as bad as they make it out to be; except a Trump presidency IS terrifying and we should be scared. The majority of Americans did not vote for him, he did not win the popular vote. Hell, just the other night, the Republicans are doing what they can to repeal and destroy the ACA, potentially leaving millions of Americans without health insurance, that's pretty fucking scary to not have any insurance and you need to go see a doctor or visit a hospital. Why would she need to garner popularity now of all times? That just tells me that people are people are pushing the real issues aside in order to whine about the 'liberal elite' once again. Yomiyuki said: also, liberals in hollywood are some of the most ignorant out of touch with reality people you'll find. even more so than conservatives most times, cause atleast conservatives try to educate themselves on politics. haha, no they don't. How? By watching Fox News and reading Breitbart articles? Also fake facebook articles, Right Wingers love using facebook as a news source for some inexplicable reason. |
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| @Yomiyuki I have to agree that hearing rich actors or musicians telling me what I should do for my own good is pretty tiring, but I got the same reaction when I hear politicians or CEOs too. Money goes to money, and I don't see why I should trust the people who are at the end of the food chain. |
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Hias said: Yomiyuki said: dont you think her flat out saying that would've been better instead of singling out the next president and pretty much encouraging the press to be hard on him. like, don't you think it's really ignorant of her to use her voice and influence on people to call out trump for something he's already been called out on, instead of adressing a serious hate crime that occurred during the week, that could partially be blamed on the fear mongering the media do against trump, whites, and republicans? she's genuinely just parroting opinions to garner popularity, and i dont really care about that cause why wouldn't she, but applauding her isn't really something people shouldn't be doing. Does it matter? We all knew who she was talking about, I thought it was a little classier than just saying "fuck Donald Trump" in a blunt way. I don't see it as fear mongering, fear mongering implies that it's not nearly as bad as they make it out to be; except a Trump presidency IS terrifying and we should be scared. The majority of Americans did not vote for him, he did not win the popular vote. Hell, just the other night, the Republicans are doing what they can to repeal and destroy the ACA, potentially leaving millions of Americans without health insurance, that's pretty fucking scary to not have any insurance and you need to go see a doctor or visit a hospital. Why would she need to garner popularity now of all times? That just tells me that people are people are pushing the real issues aside in order to whine about the 'liberal elite' once again. Yomiyuki said: also, liberals in hollywood are some of the most ignorant out of touch with reality people you'll find. even more so than conservatives most times, cause atleast conservatives try to educate themselves on politics. haha, no they don't. How? By watching Fox News and reading Breitbart articles? Also fake facebook articles, Right Wingers love using facebook as a news source for some inexplicable reason. i mean that i think it would've been better for her to say what you said "we need to stop bigotry, violence only breeds more violence, etc"because when she says "we need to stop this man and watch him like a hawk for every little thing he does" it's not really about standing up to someone, which a lot of people already have; it has a far smaller effect, then if she had said "we need to stop the racism, against all races, stop the violence, stop the hate, etc" which is a message to unite people. trump does not have complete power over making laws. as incompetent as he seems, he's not gonna nuke countries, he's not gonna lock up gays, he's not gonna deport anyone, except maybe muslims. i understand hating him, i really do, but we are far better off as a country with an asshole in charge, than a corrupt, delusional, criminal psychopath in hilary and all the corruption she brings with the democratic party in office. people whine about the liberal elite cause they need to be called out when they do ignorant things like this. no, im pretty sure pushing the agenda that trump is racist, and that his supporters are white supremacists, and that all white people are to blame for him winning, etc. is fear mongering, and pushing people to be racist, and pushing people to act like assholes to others simply cause of who they voted for; that's fear mongering too. and please, i'd like to hear what you think are the real issues in this country. no... i'm pretty sure conservatives know more about politics than your average liberal denizen of hollywood. not from fox news, or breitbart which i doubt they read, but from common sense. |
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Clebardman said: @Yomiyuki I have to agree that hearing rich actors or musicians telling me what I should do for my own good is pretty tiring, but I got the same reaction when I hear politicians or CEOs too. Money goes to money, and I don't see why I should trust the people who are at the end of the food chain. especially when they choose to ignore an obvious hate crime to instead focus on stupid things that can get them praise from every pc policeman. while if the tables were turned, you'd best believe they'd be the first to call for every white person in america to apologize for being white; you gotta get your virtue signal in any way you can. |
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Yomiyuki said: i mean that i think it would've been better for her to say what you said "we need to stop bigotry, violence only breeds more violence, etc"because when she says "we need to stop this man and watch him like a hawk for every little thing he does" it's not really about standing up to someone, which a lot of people already have; it has a far smaller effect, then if she had said "we need to stop the racism, against all races, stop the violence, stop the hate, etc" which is a message to unite people. trump does not have complete power over making laws. as incompetent as he seems, he's not gonna nuke countries, he's not gonna lock up gays, he's not gonna deport anyone, except maybe muslims. i understand hating him, i really do, but we are far better off as a country with an asshole in charge, than a corrupt, delusional, criminal psychopath in hilary and all the corruption she brings with the democratic party in office. people whine about the liberal elite cause they need to be called out when they do ignorant things like this. no, im pretty sure pushing the agenda that trump is racist, and that his supporters are white supremacists, and that all white people are to blame for him winning, etc. is fear mongering, and pushing people to be racist, and pushing people to act like assholes to others simply cause of who they voted for; that's fear mongering too. and please, i'd like to hear what you think are the real issues in this country. no... i'm pretty sure conservatives know more about politics than your average liberal denizen of hollywood. not from fox news, or breitbart which i doubt they read, but from common sense. But she did basically say that? She's saying that we elected a man who normalized racism, bigotry, hatred etc. I don't see how she said otherwise. I don't see how it's lame or warrants criticism at her for criticizing the president-elect, she can say what she wants. Just because the media gives him shit doesn't mean no one else shouldn't. The man should be held accountable for everything he says and does. And yes, hatred, violence and racism towards anyone regardless of race, gender and sexuality is messed up and awful. But criticizing the man who has been a huge influence on those things is warranted. Hate crimes and horror stories of minority children in schools being harassed and mocked have been steadily rising since the day he won. and please, i'd like to hear what you think are the real issues in this country. Rising racial tensions Police officers murdering people for mere traffic violations, or for just no reason other than being black. income inequality a joke of a public educational system that does not prepare students, where schools only get funding through good test scores, forcing teachers to spend their curriculum preparing for tests and not actually teaching them things they should be taught. rising college tuition costs, forcing millions of young adults to go into thousands and thousands of dollars of debt mass shootings and an obsessive gun culture, there is no other country in the world that puts up with mass shootings on a daily basis like we do. out of control healthcare costs a war on drugs that's done nothing but drain our resources and attack minority neighborhoods. leaders in power who deny that climate change is a real thing Those are what I can think of off the top of my head |
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| Every time a person who is not a politician, not a political activist, nor a (ex-) member of the civil service himself, but enjoys the popularity and fame in quantity and quality of the popularity and fame of a politician, starts making political statements, needs to be jailed or at the very least fined in a very hurtful manner. What's even the point of having politicians, if singers/actors are the ones who aspire to sway and lead the public? I think the impact of celebrities' attempts to hijack politics is under-addressed, and some serious lawmaking needs to happen across planet earth to bar these idiots from causing irreversible harm to society. |
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DateYutaka said: Tsundereppoi said: Every time a person who is not a politician, not a political activist, nor a (ex-) member of the civil service himself, but enjoys the popularity and fame in quantity and quality of the popularity and fame of a politician, starts making political statements, needs to be jailed or at the very least fined in a very hurtful manner. What's even the point of having politicians, if singers/actors are the ones who aspire to sway and lead the public? I think the impact of celebrities' attempts to highjack politics is under-addressed, and some serious lawmaking needs to happen across planet earth to bar these idiots from causing irreversible harm to society. so your pro censorship I'm against people abusing power, which is exactly what these celebrities are doing. |
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DateYutaka said: Tsundereppoi said: I'm against people abusing power, which is exactly what these celebrities are doing. i m pro freedom of speech simple as that there fee ot have there views as are you as am i as is every one Haven't you heard? "With power comes responsibility." They can have whatever they want, but if they're going to abuse the power of their popularity to attack politics, then they're assholes. Simple as that. Also, please stop responding to my messages from now on. The outrageous lack of intelligence in your posts has been cancerous for the past few months I've interacted with you. |
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