Hoppy said: Bet the same people claim there 10 harem shows each season and they sell too well - aka people who talk crap with nothing to back up what they are saying, so nobody I would take seriously. Hell I haven't seen that much moe in never shows...kamisama751 said: How is moe killing the anime I like when there is no moe show I like? People complain about their favorite dark, story driven anime not selling when moe series are selling 6k+ or complaining that the influx of moe will phase out those dark, story driven anime. |
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| What a stupid thread. We all have different tastes. I hate moe, you like it, and that's okay. I won't watch an anime with moe things because I think they ruin the entire series, and you'll watch it because you like it. It's not official because a person said so, every person has their own opinion. |
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tragedydesu said: Try watching Shirobako. It's a moe anime about the production of moe anime. It's one of the best anime. You appear to have liked Angel Beats which is pretty moe.cookies0 said: just a mediocre serious anime is so much better than the best Moe ever createdPeople who hate moe anime are just jealous because their favorite shows are objectively inferior. |
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| @zombie_pegasus ok i will watch it im not a moe hater i just hate when anime have no plot twgok is full of moe and still one of my favorites |
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On_the_Lam said: zombie_pegasus said: Moe essentially means "cute". It's a feeling of wanting to protect someone or something. Liking cute things is a trait that makes men good fathers. Gakkougurashi, Madoka Magica, Shirobako, and Toradora are the anime we have both seen that have a lot of moe. There is also something people refer to as "moe anime" which is an unofficial subgenre of slice of life about cute high school/middle school girls who share some interest and do related activities in a cute way. Madoka uses the moe designs as a facade, if anything. I would have liked the series even better if it had a different style. The problem is, it can't. It is the subversion (not quite actually, more like a darker tone) of Mahou shoujo genre, which is mainly within the 'cute' domain, or what you'd called as 'moe' anime. A more successful subversion of CGDCT is Gakkougurashi. |
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Temmie said: Did I hear moe?  In all seriousness after reading these posts I don't give a fuck about moe. Just keep it away from my favorites. I don't give a fuck about dark edgy teen anime. Just keep it away from my favorites. The fact of the matter is ANYTHING can kill the industry. If there's only ONE type of anime being made i.e. moe anime; dark edgy anime; yaoi anime; etc. then that will only attract certain people to certain anime. Too much of a good thing = bad, but no variety = bad as well. Not only do I agree with everything ya said - but I just finished watching JoJo's and to see that image again... ah you made my day~ <3 |
| @kamisama751 im pretty sure that anime have no plot i just want to know why it get a lot of praise |
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ilovewendy16 said: Kyoto Animation:Comic_Sans said: Don't disrespect Kyoto Animation and their superior artwork.IKRI am an atheist, not a satanist and thus it wouldn't make much sense for me to have satanist anime in my favorites Not to mention that Akashi from YST is cuter than all of KyoAni's moe blob lolis Madhouse: I'm sorry, did you say something about superior artwork? |
Comic_SansApr 20, 2016 1:20 PM
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
azzuRe said: As dark as people may call it, it's a fairly common trope in magical girl anime for the protagonist to sacrifice herself for the good of others. One main difference is that usually only the protagonist dies and they're even usually reincarnated afterwards in one way or another. Most magical girl anime have at least some death in them. From Cardcaptor Sakura with her dead mother to Nurse Angel Ririka where there was a possibility of the entire planet being destroyed there will usually be some death. Just like in Madoka the most powerful magical girls are the ones who have to sacrifice themselves. On_the_Lam said: Madoka uses the moe designs as a facade, if anything. I would have liked the series even better if it had a different style. The problem is, it can't. It is the subversion (not quite actually, more like a darker tone) of Mahou shoujo genre, which is mainly within the 'cute' domain, or what you'd called as 'moe' anime. A more successful subversion of CGDCT is Gakkougurashi. |
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| I hate moe, I can't stand it. Watch it if you want, and let me watch what I want. ilovewendy16 said: Hoppy said: I hope moe completely annihilates the stupid dark edgy teen anime. i hope it all gets replaced.People complain about their favorite dark, story driven anime not selling when moe series are selling 6k+ or complaining that the influx of moe will phase out those dark, story driven anime. "Stop liking what I don't like!!!!" I can do the same as you, "I hope shows with thought completely annihilates the stupid self insert self serving moe anime" I don't care if you don't like certain shows, but quit being an elitist and quit acting like a child. |
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| HIDEAKI ANNO SAID THAT ANIME WILL DIE SO THEIR OPINION IS SHIT |
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NateMKII said: I don't think that's true either. I think anime is fine as it is currently, the current target audience likes the current shows, and the future current demographic will probably like their shows, this is something that goes well and that's ok. What I think is killing anime is the strain inside the studio itself. This is just what I think though, I don't do much research on the "anime-killer" topic. the industry does not owe whiny ass people anything, more people are watching anime now than every before, so clearly nothing is "killing anime". if you won't watch something cause it has one element in it that you don't like, then you probably shouldn't be watching the medium at all yea the studios are grimy as hell as far as how they treat their workers, but thats not the actual "anime" lol -Maz said: Nothing is killing anime, contrary to a vocal minority's crying and mewing. you know me, i can't fucking stand people who complain about anime, if all you wanna do is complain, stop watching, its not that hard |
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It seems you haven't seen Nichijou It's an ugly moe blob loli with alien eyes, a hole instead of a mouth and no nose who's shooting with a machine gunBehold KyoAni's Master Race animation [img*]https://49.media.tumblr.com/5ebceb4a9d581687c4070405a3820258/tumblr_o3eccuLsTp1umw6dto1_500.gif[/img] Meanwhile, at Madhouse INC Good animation? ✓ Good and interesting art style? ✓ Variety? ✓ What does KyoAni have apart from its animation? Nothing |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Comic_Sans said: It's an ugly moe blob loli with alien eyes, a hole instead of a mouth and no nose who's shooting with a machine gun Meanwhile, at Madhouse INC Good animation? ✓ Good and interesting art style? ✓ Variety? ✓ What does KyoAni have apart from its animation? Nothing All I see is meme art styles as typical from Memehouse >Hasn't seen a single one of the anime I listed and only has anime from the 70s-80s in his favorites Well meme'd my friend |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Hoppy said: Doesn't Steins Gate have the tuturu chick? That's like saying Hyouka isn't moe. Most modern anime are moe, plotless, or sometimes both.Not all anime made in the 2010's is moe or plotless. Watch some Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Btooom, and Robotics;Notes. |
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ilovewendy16 said: Surprisingly enough, moe doesn't have a direct effect on quality. Moe makes bad shows easier to watch, but there are plenty of good shows that are moe and plenty that aren't.NateMKII said: I didn't tell anyone to stop liking what i don't like. I'm just saying that the days of crappy non-moe anime are over. We shall forever live in a moe utopia.I hate moe, I can't stand it. Watch it if you want, and let me watch what I want. "Stop liking what I don't like!!!!" I can do the same as you, "I hope shows with thought completely annihilates the stupid self insert self serving moe anime" I don't care if you don't like certain shows, but quit being an elitist and quit acting like a child. |
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ilovewendy16 said: NateMKII said: I didn't tell anyone to stop liking what i don't like. I'm just saying that the days of crappy non-moe anime are over. We shall forever live in a moe utopia.I hate moe, I can't stand it. Watch it if you want, and let me watch what I want. "Stop liking what I don't like!!!!" I can do the same as you, "I hope shows with thought completely annihilates the stupid self insert self serving moe anime" I don't care if you don't like certain shows, but quit being an elitist and quit acting like a child. "I hope moe completely annihilates the stupid dark edgy teen anime." Can you not see what you're doing? |
Comic_Sans said: literally all of that was shit. literally. actually. And who needs variety when its perfect already.It seems you haven't seen Nichijou It's an ugly moe blob loli with alien eyes, a hole instead of a mouth and no nose who's shooting with a machine gunBehold KyoAni's Master Race animation [img*]https://49.media.tumblr.com/5ebceb4a9d581687c4070405a3820258/tumblr_o3eccuLsTp1umw6dto1_500.gif[/img] Meanwhile, at Madhouse INC Good animation? ✓ Good and interesting art style? ✓ Variety? ✓ What does KyoAni have apart from its animation? Nothing |
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@Comic_Sans Madhouse like this? There are plenty of cute anime from Madhouse like Cardcaptor Sakura, No Game No Life, Chobits, Allison to Lillia, Chi's Sweet Home, and Di Gi Charat. |
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| no...seriously, how many times i said this words -_- "just make your own fucking studio or somethin if you don't want to see MOE in anime. if you can't, you can make a manga where you can put whatever you like in it and toss away things that you hate, same with LN. rather than complaining, why not make a studio in japan ? 'pain in the ass to make one' ? then stop fucking complaining. Anime is not for you!!!" just seriously, please share those words to Moe haters so that they will stop complaining and do their jobs instead complaining. too fucking annoying hearing those complains again and again every year. |
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@Comic_Sans Did I say that Madhouse never has produced moe blob anime?Madhouse like this? There are plenty of cute anime from Madhouse like Cardcaptor Sakura, No Game No Life, Chobits, Allison to Lillia, Chi's Sweet Home, and Di Gi Charat. I didn't Did I say that Madhouse has more variety? I did |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| @Comic_Sans Madhouse isn't that much better at detail:  |
| Actually, yes they are I have already posted various examples that disprove your claim and I don't see why I should have to do it again Anyway, I don't want to derail this thread, so if any of you KyoAni fans still have something to say then I suggest you comment on my profile |
Comic_SansApr 20, 2016 2:47 PM
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| I kind of went off anime a whie back because it seemed ot be all dark brooding stories with un relate able characters dying dramatically but leaving me cold. (Then years later I found out many people felt the same way about X the movie) Moe got me back into anime with it's fun characters and stuff. One of my favourite ones is L L is moe right? |
siccoyote said: L is moe in an "ugly cute" way. TVTropes says he's an "anti-bishounen".I kind of went off anime a whie back because it seemed ot be all dark brooding stories with un relate able characters dying dramatically but leaving me cold. (Then years later I found out many people felt the same way about X the movie) Moe got me back into anime with it's fun characters and stuff. One of my favourite ones is L L is moe right? |
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siccoyote said: I kind of went off anime a whie back because it seemed ot be all dark brooding stories with un relate able characters dying dramatically but leaving me cold. (Then years later I found out many people felt the same way about X the movie) Moe got me back into anime with it's fun characters and stuff. One of my favourite ones is L L is moe right? Well he does enjoy tea and cake just like most moe characters. |
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Comic_Sans said: It seems you haven't seen Nichijou It's an ugly moe blob loli with alien eyes, a hole instead of a mouth and no nose who's shooting with a machine gunBehold KyoAni's Master Race animation [img*]https://49.media.tumblr.com/5ebceb4a9d581687c4070405a3820258/tumblr_o3eccuLsTp1umw6dto1_500.gif[/img] Meanwhile, at Madhouse INC Good animation? ✓ Good and interesting art style? ✓ Variety? ✓ What does KyoAni have apart from its animation? Nothing 1# from Mousou Dairinin OP seriously 2# yep much details 3# a movie who took 7 years to came out (and you didn't compare it to k-on movie at the very least) 4#see nichijou for reference 5#too much colors see nichijou 6#is that's kaiba!yep much details in there too Ok I come up with two possibilities you either a troll or ignorant but I'll go with both |
1# from Mousou Dairinin OP seriously ... It's from Paprika2# yep much details YST does have much details, also animating a sequence like that takes time3# a movie who took 7 years to came out (and you didn't compare it to k-on movie at the very least) Doesn't matter, it still disproves wencylover's claims about KyoAni and the moe art style being the magnum opus of anime4#see nichijou for reference ?5#too much colors see nichijou There's about 30+ people in that picture, yes, of course there's gonna be a lot of colors6#is that's kaiba!yep much details in there too Yes?Ok I come up with two possibilities you either a troll or ignorant but I'll go with both "That person has an opinion that differs from mine, damn it must be a troll"All of these anime have a very detailed art style, a detailed color scheme and/or even make use of the art style to present the basis of certain symbolism Majority of KyoAni's anime, however, have a very generic art style (their backgrounds look nice but that's it), a pretty basic color scheme and rarely make use of the art style to convey symbolic messages I am not saying this because I am ignorant or a troll, I am saying this because it's true And like I said earlier I don't want to derail this thread, so if any of you KyoAni fans still have something to say then I suggest you comment on my profile |
Comic_SansApr 20, 2016 3:14 PM
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
monali said: Comic_Sans said: It's an ugly moe blob loli with alien eyes, a hole instead of a mouth and no nose who's shooting with a machine gun Meanwhile, at Madhouse INC Good animation? ✓ Good and interesting art style? ✓ Variety? ✓ What does KyoAni have apart from its animation? Nothing 1# from Mousou Dairinin OP seriously 2# yep much details 3# a movie who took 7 years to came out (and you didn't compare it to k-on movie at the very least) 4#see nichijou for reference 5#too much colors see nichijou 6#is that's kaiba!yep much details in there too Ok I come up with two possibilities you either a troll or ignorant but I'll go with both lol not sure why her examples mean she is either trolling or being ignorant, nor am I sure of how nichijou's animation is the most superior of all. All of those series are very detailed with their color schemes, as well as how some present the basis of their symbolism through their art style as a whole. If you like the way nichijou looks more, den oh wellz I suppose. zombie_pegasus said: siccoyote said: L is moe in an "ugly cute" way. TVTropes says he's an "anti-bishounen".I kind of went off anime a whie back because it seemed ot be all dark brooding stories with un relate able characters dying dramatically but leaving me cold. (Then years later I found out many people felt the same way about X the movie) Moe got me back into anime with it's fun characters and stuff. One of my favourite ones is L L is moe right? L is bishounen because he's not bishounen, nah mean? |
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| I don't even watch that many moe anime, so I don't care. |
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| Damn, anti-moe people have got a stick up their arse as usual. This doesn't mean everyone who doesn't like moe. It means the people who go out of their way to state that they strongly dislike/hate moe at every possible opportunity. It's annoying seeing these people all the time, they are basically the bronies of the anime community. Well done, you special snowflakes, you. |
| MFW people ditching nichijou animation O_O. sure the art style is simple, but i never see TV series as good as them in pure animation fluidity. they also has very detail animation too and soo many sakuga.... anyways, waiting patiently for yotsuba anime adaptation.... haters gonna hate... |
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| I certainly won't miss moe centric shows. #Noses. |
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BatoKusanagi said: @romagia what do you mean yet? it's already... do you read jump version?"Moe is not killing anime, just go watch show from 10 years ago that are not being made anymore!" Seriously, who's that chick? Anyway, she's not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed, is she? This picture actually gave me cancer.  i can feel the popcorn burning already... |
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Wensbane said: people doesn't know what animation quality is. flashy clash, wow explosion, much action = good animation. faceplam....Kuma said: MFW people ditching nichijou animation O_O. sure the art style is simple, but i never see TV series as good as them in pure animation fluidity. they also has very detail animation too and soo many sakuga.... anyways, waiting patiently for yotsuba anime adaptation.... haters gonna hate... No joke. I don't give a shit about animation and even I was impressed... Yotsuba& adaptation will never happen. It would be too good. All other anime would look like crap after it, it would destroy the industry. then it's good thing. i can also get shirogane no nina anime adaptation too... |
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