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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Nice, this might be one of my favorite episodes for this season. The second cour really picked up pacing in terms of action. Such an intense amount of firepower displayed by certain weapons of war this episode too. I think Haku realizes what they are fighting against and is not a push over. Vurai is also one seriously tough bastard.  |
Stark700Jan 16, 2016 10:13 AM
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| HOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS EPISODE WAS TOO MUCH My reaction in a nutshell These generals are too OP.....The gore, the horrors of war...All that death and destruction, the reveal of the masks and the transformations, the individual fights, dem tactics, new alliances My God this episode was perfection.....These guys look even more broken than the crew in S1 |
TokoyaJan 16, 2016 10:11 AM
This episode was great, there is some thing the game did better though, next week more onsen?  |
| This was intense episode. I liked it, it might be even my favourite of this series. It looks like the war is over, well, the Pillars are not to be messed with. It looks like next episode gonna be SoL again, but I think, after at even greater mess will happen. |
| Well that was a senseless slaughter of innocents near the end there. I hope Haku at least lets the emperor know, but I doubt anything will be done about it. That Vurai needs to go down... |
| Pretty brutal. The connection to the first season seems more apparent now. A lot of unnecessary repeat cuts in this episode. Looks like it's heading back to silly in the next. |
| Sieg Zeon! |
| They did a good job at portraying the godly levels of power that mask wielders have. Those who watched the first season should already have quite a few ideas on what this means in the long run and what those masks mean, especially since it should be reminiscent of certain other country in the first show, for them. It also allows us to see the different side to Yamato - a side that Haku could not see by having warm baths and nice peaceful life - the frightening side of the destructive power that Yamato holds. A power to annihilate an entire war worth of enemy army in short amount of time. A frightening kind of strength that feels like the response was way too overdone. A darker and frightening side to Country's seemingly everlasting peace. Haku being touched and affected by what he saw here also is bound to have consequences. Haku built up a peaceful life, he never had any past horrors to be haunted by. All he had to do was to just do his job and enjoy the privilege of living in a rich and powerful country. Now, he got to see the different side of life and we are bound to deal with that. Next episode I guess will be interlude with some comedy, as well as characters reflecting on what they have seen. There are already a lot of foreshadowing for where this is going :) 10/10 animefan8800 said: Well that was a senseless slaughter of innocents near the end there. I hope Haku at least lets the emperor know, but I doubt anything will be done about it. That Vurai needs to go down... But does emperor not know? We only seen him interact with Haku and we KNOW he has ulterior motive with that. We do not know whether his behavior around Haku is his real personality or if its just a "false face". :) |
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| I'll be damned, it actually reached the Heavy Object level of stupidity in battles. Sure, it was flashy with lots of explosions and death but it was too stupid to enjoy the carnage. Arrows passing through branches, city engulfed by fire and explosions that should raze it, was left with just some parts collapsed, pillar guy attacking MC that is emperor's favourite, friendly fire (no pun intended) and many, many more. Rule of cool is one thing but when things get too far-fetched it just breaks the immersion and suspension of disbelief. Oh great, looks there will be more disgusting antics of perverted princess in the next episode. Because that's what you think hearing Utawareurmono. Fujoshi bait and bullshit battles. I really need to rewatch the first series to wash down the after-taste. |
Ii tenki desu ne... |
Antanaru said: Arrows passing through branches, Did you miss the fact that the archers were controlled by a some kind of psychic people which led to pretty much 100% aiming accuracy? pillar guy attacking MC that is emperor's favourite, friendly fire (no pun intended) Already foreshadowed before. Emperor did give Haku an almost perfect protection too. Not that we even know if Emperor is honest with Haku in terms of his motivation. and many, many more. Its nice to hate on a show as long as you have actual arguments. Oh wait. Oh great, looks there will be more disgusting antics of perverted princess in the next episode. Because that's what you think hearing Utawareurmono. Fujoshi bait and bullshit battles. I really need to rewatch the first series to wash down the after-taste. Those rose tinted nostalgia glasses must be painting quite a view. |
AhenshihaelJan 16, 2016 10:29 AM
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Fai said: animefan8800 said: Well that was a senseless slaughter of innocents near the end there. I hope Haku at least lets the emperor know, but I doubt anything will be done about it. That Vurai needs to go down... But does emperor not know? We only seen him interact with Haku and we KNOW he has ulterior motive with that. We do not know whether his behavior around Haku is his real personality or if its just a "false face". :) I'm assuming he doesn't, didn't they say something like that this episode? Maybe Haku said it and was wrong. If Haku learns he was aware he should just walk out of the whole shitty kingdom that condones such needless carnage, not that that'll happen. |
| Well that was... pretty devastating :o |
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animefan8800 said: Fai said: But does emperor not know? We only seen him interact with Haku and we KNOW he has ulterior motive with that. We do not know whether his behavior around Haku is his real personality or if its just a "false face". :) I'm assuming he doesn't, didn't they say something like that this episode? Maybe Haku said it and was wrong. If Haku learns he was aware he should just walk out of the whole shitty kingdom that condones such needless carnage, not that that'll happen. All the generals mentioned multiple times on following the Emperor's orders. "Emperor has ordered all of your deaths" |
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Fai said: animefan8800 said: I'm assuming he doesn't, didn't they say something like that this episode? Maybe Haku said it and was wrong. If Haku learns he was aware he should just walk out of the whole shitty kingdom that condones such needless carnage, not that that'll happen. All the generals mentioned multiple times on following the Emperor's orders. "Emperor has ordered all of your deaths" This was definitely overboard even by that standard. I think it was one of the girls who says the emperor wouldn't want this, but I'd need to go back and check for sure but...meh. Either way Haku's clearly disgusted by the end as well he should be. EDIT: Yeah the one says it at 18:02 mark. |
animefan8800Jan 16, 2016 10:37 AM
Antanaru said: Talk about pointless nitpicking lolI'll be damned, it actually reached the Heavy Object level of stupidity in battles. Sure, it was flashy with lots of explosions and death but it was too stupid to enjoy the carnage. Arrows passing through branches, city engulfed by fire and explosions that should raze it, was left with just some parts collapsed, pillar guy attacking MC that is emperor's favourite, friendly fire (no pun intended) and many, many more. Rule of cool is one thing but when things get too far-fetched it just breaks the immersion and suspension of disbelief. Oh great, looks there will be more disgusting antics of perverted princess in the next episode. Because that's what you think hearing Utawareurmono. Fujoshi bait and bullshit battles. I really need to rewatch the first series to wash down the after-taste. |
Fai said: Perfect aim doesn't remove the obstacle. They can aim all they want but trees are still there making such arrow rain impossible.Antanaru said: Arrows passing through branches, Did you miss the fact that the archers were controlled by a some kind of psychic people which led to pretty much 100% aiming accuracy? pillar guy attacking MC that is emperor's favourite, friendly fire (no pun intended) Already foreshadowed before. Emperor did give Haku an almost perfect protection too. Not that we even know if Emperor is honest with Haku in terms of his motivation. and many, many more. Its nice to hate on a show as long as you have actual arguments. Oh wait. Oh great, looks there will be more disgusting antics of perverted princess in the next episode. Because that's what you think hearing Utawareurmono. Fujoshi bait and bullshit battles. I really need to rewatch the first series to wash down the after-taste. Those rose tinted nostalgia glasses must be painting quite a view. |
Ii tenki desu ne... |
| Talk about a showcase of strength, the generals were literally an one man army that breaks all the laws regarding the art of war, as they are the main force itself. That was pretty ruthless though to kill anyone that is in their path, even if the reasoning of "I would've done the same in your shoes". That was quite the honourable fight when the two sides went all out fighting fair and square. Gosh, I feel like a Three Kingdom nerd, but it was nice to see that when the man kept guard on the bridge and then broke it to protect his lord, just like what Zhang Fei did at the Battle of Changban, if they were the protagonist in some hypothetical show, things would've turned out a whole lot different. |
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FatefulLove said: Gosh, I feel like a Three Kingdom nerd, but it was nice to see that when the man kept guard on the bridge and then broke it to protect his lord, just like what Zhang Fei did at the Battle of Changban, if they were the protagonist in some hypothetical show, things would've turned out a whole lot different. UTWR franchise is strongly inspired by the feel and idea of romance of three kingdoms(hence why the main character always has a fan and is more of a tactician type of character than a fighter and why each part of the story has a subtitle(like chapters in the romance of three kingdoms) instead of being named Utawarerumono 2, Utawarerumono 3, etc) |
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| DAMN! That was brutal AF! Vurai is ruthless. Gotta admit he looks awesome tho. Really didn't expect the twins to be that strong tho. They friggin stopped that :O These friggin generals are OP. The feats Munechika and Oshutoru showed were crazy too. And they did them so nonchalantly like nothing. U don't want to f*** with Yamato. Really wonder how this will affect Haku's character from her onward. |
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| So the masks give the Eight Pillar Generals special powers then? That's an interesting idea, but do they all transform like Vurai does? Cos the guy with the map was clearly using some kind of psychic powers to control his men and Munechika was killing soldiers with glowing forcefields. Anyway, all of the battles were pretty interesting and, in the case of Vurai's massacre, downright brutal. At least the characters now understand the reality and brutality of war, given how little they seemed to take it seriously before. And seeing how all this affects Haku's character will definitely be the most interesting part. It's just a shame that the preview makes it look like next week will go back to the crap that ruined the first half of the show. Sure, a break in tension is nice and all, but when this show has already wasted so many episodes in the same way, I really have to question it and express my disappointment. |
| Now this is what I'm talking about. Vurai is a bitch. The Emperor is obviously psycho too. He totally knows they're being brutal. With so much power there was no need to eliminate even the hostages. I mean Vurai decimated the entire city yo, you're telling me all the children and babies there were traitors too? I hate how only Haku's the one who's seriously showing disgust. Everyone else is like oh well, that's war. I wanna see Haku's interaction with Oshutoru after this. |
| Well their counter offensive will work wonders with how brutal the attacks were. No one in their right mind should want to try and invade them anytime soon. Oshutoru's sword battle was pretty interesting. Soon as there was a hint of a slight bit of danger his attack power just skyrocketed to finish the fight. Also in the end only ~40% of the city ended up getting decimated. Most of it looking to be a less populated (building wise) possible trade or high class district. Looks like Haku and the Kamunagi of Chains paid off in being there for the non-combatants. |
Although slice-of-life Utawarerumono is fun to watch, I much prefer when the plot is serious. We finally saw just how over-powered and merciless the mask wielders are in the battlefield. I expect Haku's experience in this war to change him in some way.  |
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| I didn't expect much from this series guess this prove me wrong vurai is a fucking eva lmao the eight generals were too op dekoponpo really doesn't belong there I'm excited on how the story would progress and what changes would happen to haku |
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| Mikazuchi and Oshutoru fighting all those guys by themselves was badass. The last few minutes were intense and damn those generals are op. |
| Oh good, we're finally getting back to bathing next episode. I was getting worried. This is the most episodes we've had without a soak all season. |
straggy said: Oh good, we're finally getting back to bathing next episode. I was getting worried. This is the most episodes we've had without a soak all season. Considering Haku's reaction at the end and through the episode, expecting it to be a normal SOl tone is silly. |
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| Nope nope nope NOPE, not this shit again. And lol at the preview. AgK will haunt me forever... |
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| Best episode so far, holy shit was that intense. However I've got a suspicious feeling about that Virai general, Seems rather weird or unstable in a way. |
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| Very brief war with 8 pillar generals that were a tad bit hacked. It was similar to using a magnifying glass on a line of ants, something you may or not have done during your summers of your youth. Next episode we return to SoL. Hopefully the next trigger occurs after that SoL episode. Something like this should happen: Dekoponpo should lose his position and since the Emperor acknowledges Haku as man of character and trust, he should appoint him as one of the 8 pillar generals. |
| Elementary my dear Watson, Elementary... |
| Holy ShEEEt Yamato is OP to the max. WTF is this shit. damn it i love this. |
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| Dude with the half mask descending in slow motion was epic af. White haired chick is OP as fuck. Some dudes were pleading for help and half mask guy literally just swings his arm and fucks them all up. Holy shit. Been saying this almost every post but... I'll say it again and again. I fucking love this anime! |
| That was one most amazing episode. The Eight Pillar Generals are seriously terrifying, and that is one heck of an understatement. I knew they were stong, but this went beyond that. That was complete annihilation, and brutal at the same time. The war is just hell. Looks like we'll get a chill episode next time, not that I mind. |
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| The 8 Pillar Generals are certainly ruthless. It makes me wonder if they are the true villains of this story. |
| Pretty intense episode overall. I hope Haku understands what situation he's in. 5/5 |
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| That's really intense! Perhaps Haku will do something about the merciless killings. Next episode, back to normal (so fast). |
| notice Vurai attacked Haku, even though he knew he was favored by emperor. He may have attacked Haku out of envy/jealousy and the emperor anticipated this and gave to Haku the twin priestess to protect him. Vurai seems the source of conflict and may lead to lead to greater conflicts. This goes back to further, Vurai gave Haku a death stare in their first meeting, when the 8 pillar generals were formally introduced. I wondered why that was, but now it's born fruit. Something more telling was that he was not in any bezerker state, in that form he listened to his soldiers. He went ahead and annihilated Yamato civilians without any remorse. He has shown us that he is a tragically flawed character, similar to Brolly in the DBZ verse. This one episode above all else told us the future. |
ScotlandYardJan 16, 2016 8:05 PM
| Elementary my dear Watson, Elementary... |
| The Emperor and the Generals just don't give a shit, do they? Damn. That was a massacre. Speaking of which, does Vurai lose himself when he's in that form, or is he completely conscious of his own actions? Anyway, brutal episode. Based on the preview, I hope next week's episode is on the light side. We kind of need it... |
| Intense, really intense! Haku finally sees what war really is, and now seeing a lot innocent people dying right in front of his eyes really hit him hard. Maybe this experince will further his character development so I'm interesting what he's going to do. Too bad he fail to save that little boy and that girl but at least Saraana and Uruuru save him. Now next week episode we're going to have another onsen filler episode? I guess they all could use some some relaxing after what just happen. Can't wait to see what happens next!!! |
| Is it just me or are there a lot of people commenting about how this show "works" when if they'd seen the first season they wouldn't even be asking those questions. Kinda annoying when people pick up a show halfway and question how it works, but not much you can do about that. |
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| That was overkill. I'm mostly curious as to how this battle changes Haku's character. What is Haku going to do from this point onward? |
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| What a drastic tonal change. Impressive animation, love the multiple camera angles of the same action used 3 times this episode. |
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