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Jun 30, 2015 10:35 PM
#1
i like "deep" anime too, but i can't answer this question myself, do you have any opinion? and why do people who like "deep anime" often associated as a cool person, i don't get it, i don't think watching certain anime make you cool person |
Jun 30, 2015 10:38 PM
#2
also wondering why "deep anime" didn't show in the title, |
Jun 30, 2015 10:40 PM
#3
Maybe because it isn't generic trash? Having some decent taste in anime is always good. |
Jun 30, 2015 10:42 PM
#4
Jun 30, 2015 10:45 PM
#5
Really? After browsing the AD board for some time, I rarely see anyone regarded as cool because they like "deep anime". Instead they usually just get called "pretentious" or "2deep4me". Lol OT: Watching "deep stuff" is fun because it makes your mind explode :) |
Jun 30, 2015 10:46 PM
#6
cuz it's not generic as you expected |
Jun 30, 2015 10:47 PM
#7
Firelilyx said: Really? After browsing the AD board for some time, I rarely see anyone regarded as cool because they like "deep anime". Instead they usually just get called "pretentious" or "2deep4me". Lol I've never been called pretentious or 2deep4me and I like Ikuhara anime. Granted, I think Ikuni is popular but his shows are definitely on the "deep" side. I think it just has to do with the attitude people have. |
Jun 30, 2015 10:56 PM
#8
Firelilyx said: Really? After browsing the AD board for some time, I rarely see anyone regarded as cool because they like "deep anime". Instead they usually just get called "pretentious" or "2deep4me". Lol OT: Watching "deep stuff" is fun because it makes your mind explode :) well, i usually get called pretentious too, but whatever. i mean people who watch deep anime usually consindering himself as a cool person sometimes intellectual person, |
Jun 30, 2015 10:59 PM
#9
lustylady said: people who watch deep anime usually consindering himself as a cool person sometimes intellectual person, That's why they get called 'pretentious'. |
Jun 30, 2015 11:01 PM
#10
I have never seen this. You can have good taste in anime but still be a pos. |
Jun 30, 2015 11:12 PM
#11
DrCoppelius said: Well, I kind of exaggerated a bit on specific people getting called out for being "pretentious". But, it seems like whenever the topic of "deep" or "mature" anime is brought up, some people get very passive aggressive and start throwing out words/phrases like "pretentious", "2deep4me", "elitists", "trying too hard", etc. Especially when someone says "x" anime is deep or w/e.Firelilyx said: Really? After browsing the AD board for some time, I rarely see anyone regarded as cool because they like "deep anime". Instead they usually just get called "pretentious" or "2deep4me". Lol I've never been called pretentious or 2deep4me and I like Ikuhara anime. Granted, I think Ikuni is popular but his shows are definitely on the "deep" side. I think it just has to do with the attitude people have. |
Jun 30, 2015 11:24 PM
#12
Firelilyx said: 3 reasons in my observation;Well, I kind of exaggerated a bit on specific people getting called out for being "pretentious". But, it seems like whenever the topic of "deep" or "mature" anime is brought up, some people get very passive aggressive and start throwing out words/phrases like "pretentious", "2deep4me", "elitists", "trying too hard", etc. Especially when someone says "x" anime is deep or w/e. 1) Most who does not agree that x is not deep are shounen fans who are fond of liking Naruto, SAO, AoT, etc. 2) Trolls who like to bait people 3) They are just joking |
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Jun 30, 2015 11:26 PM
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Jun 30, 2015 11:56 PM
#14
Dunno. I've always just watched what I felt like~ Which is of course, mostly trash~ |
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Jun 30, 2015 11:57 PM
#15
ichii_1 said: You mean bleachIt's like comparing classic literature to a superman comic, there's an obvious level of quality, but people these days hate anything that makes you think even a little bit. |
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Jul 1, 2015 12:21 AM
#16
TheGreatTiteKubo said: ichii_1 said: You mean bleachIt's like comparing classic literature to a superman comic, there's an obvious level of quality, but people these days hate anything that makes you think even a little bit. Aye mate, you're one of the 5% of readers that actually understands Kubo's way of writing as stated by the man himself. |
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Jul 1, 2015 1:02 AM
#17
Jul 1, 2015 2:04 AM
#18
What is deep anime? I feel like 'deep' is as pointless and meaningless as 'mature', 'edgy', 'pretentious'. Due to how they are used. |
Jul 1, 2015 2:12 AM
#19
Naisto said: Maybe because it isn't generic trash? Having some decent taste in anime is always good. How many iterations of a concept do you need to be done to consider it "generic"? Back up your buzzwords, please. |
Jul 1, 2015 2:17 AM
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Jul 1, 2015 2:19 AM
#21
It's like winning the lottery. You found THE ticket. There's plenty of anime series to keep you busy watching, but there are those "few" that stand out from the rest. |
Jul 1, 2015 2:24 AM
#22
Imaishi said: tsudecimo said: What is deep anime? I feel like 'deep' is as pointless and meaningless as 'mature', 'edgy', 'pretentious'. Due to how they are used. That's true as well, people seem to mistake 'deep' for 'smart', and really overuse the word. Enlighten me on the meaning of those words. Is deep emotionality and such that can be applied to Angel Beats while smart could be applied to errr....*zero anime comes to mind. You know what I mean. |
Jul 1, 2015 4:40 AM
#23
Imaishi said: What I find funny is how people associate 'deep' with 'good'. As if being deep made anime better by itself. 'Deep' is a desirable quality, like 'entertaining'. That said, just because an anime tries to be deep doesn't mean it is. Failing to be deep, especially when the show just pretends is awful. |
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Jul 1, 2015 5:38 AM
#25
TheBrainintheJar said: Imaishi said: What I find funny is how people associate 'deep' with 'good'. As if being deep made anime better by itself. 'Deep' is a desirable quality, like 'entertaining'. Not really. Being deep is just a characteristic, not a merit, not in a sense that not being deep is a flaw. All anime aim to entertain, while most don't aim (and shouldn't) to be deep. |
ImaishiJul 1, 2015 5:53 AM
Jul 1, 2015 5:59 AM
#26
Tbh the only time i read the word "deep" here in MAL is when someone says "2deep4u" or similars, no one takes that adjective seriously. |
Jul 1, 2015 6:03 AM
#27
Hulohot said: Tbh the only time i read the word "deep" here in MAL is when someone says "2deep4u" or similars, no one takes that adjective seriously. |
Jul 1, 2015 6:14 AM
#28
I gets really excited and passionate if its a hentai series. |
Jul 1, 2015 6:42 AM
#29
Imaishi said: tsudecimo said: What is deep anime? I feel like 'deep' is as pointless and meaningless as 'mature', 'edgy', 'pretentious'. Due to how they are used. That's true as well, people seem to mistake 'deep' for 'smart', and really overuse the word. They are similar though. "Deep"" anime go beyond what meets the eye, so they force you to use your critical thinking. |
Jul 1, 2015 7:33 AM
#30
Sounds like your trying to justify your own shit tatste. |
Jul 1, 2015 7:47 AM
#31
Imagine this. There's one thing that made you feel stuff, like really feel something. Be it anger or hate red or sadness or whatever. Now there's another thing, this thing gave you the amount of feels a rock get when someone walks past it (That's very, very, low feels, btw). Which one would you remember and talk about and defend/trash more passionately? This is a question with a really obvious question you know. You can do better, OP. |
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Jul 1, 2015 9:36 AM
#32
FireEmblemIke24 said: TheGreatTiteKubo said: ichii_1 said: It's like comparing classic literature to a superman comic, there's an obvious level of quality, but people these days hate anything that makes you think even a little bit. Aye mate, you're one of the 5% of readers that actually understands Kubo's way of writing as stated by the man himself. I didn't say bleach specifically now did I? :( But I'll have you know that Kubo is a huge Shakespeare fan, and it shows in his poems and dialogue which is top quality and would not even lose to the likes of Baudelaire. |
Jul 1, 2015 10:51 AM
#33
Imaishi said: TheBrainintheJar said: Imaishi said: What I find funny is how people associate 'deep' with 'good'. As if being deep made anime better by itself. 'Deep' is a desirable quality, like 'entertaining'. Not really. Being deep is just a characteristic, not a merit, not in a sense that not being deep is a flaw. All anime aim to entertain, while most don't aim (and shouldn't) to be deep. None of us bothered to define deep, which kind of ruins this discussion. I'll define 'deep' is trying to say something serious about life, or some other big topic. A 'deep' anime or novel or movie tries to equal philosophy essay. What's your definition? |
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Jul 1, 2015 11:33 AM
#34
TheBrainintheJar said: Imaishi said: TheBrainintheJar said: Imaishi said: What I find funny is how people associate 'deep' with 'good'. As if being deep made anime better by itself. 'Deep' is a desirable quality, like 'entertaining'. Not really. Being deep is just a characteristic, not a merit, not in a sense that not being deep is a flaw. All anime aim to entertain, while most don't aim (and shouldn't) to be deep. None of us bothered to define deep, which kind of ruins this discussion. I'll define 'deep' is trying to say something serious about life, or some other big topic. A 'deep' anime or novel or movie tries to equal philosophy essay. What's your definition? I would say it's simply a novel/anime/whatever that has more to it than the surface, moves some serious topic or gets some message across, something you shouldn't take at face value. But it doesn't really matter which definition we use. It's just not always a desirable quality, sometimes the opposite even. Depends on the genre and what the show wants to do. For example Black Lagoon. It's a simple, very entertaining action show. I don't want any serious topic and philosophy brought up there. It wouldn't make anything better, quite the opposite, it would only make it worse. |
Jul 1, 2015 12:10 PM
#35
Several people have confirmed that I have elite taste. I am still waiting to get invited to the cool kidz club though. |
Jul 1, 2015 12:14 PM
#36
Naisto said: Maybe because it isn't generic trash? Having some decent taste in anime is always good. |
Jul 1, 2015 12:32 PM
#37
Don't care about that stuff, don't care about the labels and shit and you're good to go. Immerse yourself in the anime, enjoy the content as it is and it's very execution. And have people refrain from spouting shit like (SEL and Tex) the labeled 2deep4u stuff not really being "enjoyable" from a subjective standpoint. Nothing has to necessarily result in something else or mean something by watching certain anime and what not, so labeling and generalization shouldn't be something people should even think about. |
Jul 1, 2015 1:29 PM
#38
Jul 2, 2015 2:34 PM
#39
Imaishi said: TheBrainintheJar said: Imaishi said: TheBrainintheJar said: Imaishi said: What I find funny is how people associate 'deep' with 'good'. As if being deep made anime better by itself. 'Deep' is a desirable quality, like 'entertaining'. Not really. Being deep is just a characteristic, not a merit, not in a sense that not being deep is a flaw. All anime aim to entertain, while most don't aim (and shouldn't) to be deep. None of us bothered to define deep, which kind of ruins this discussion. I'll define 'deep' is trying to say something serious about life, or some other big topic. A 'deep' anime or novel or movie tries to equal philosophy essay. What's your definition? I would say it's simply a novel/anime/whatever that has more to it than the surface, moves some serious topic or gets some message across, something you shouldn't take at face value. But it doesn't really matter which definition we use. It's just not always a desirable quality, sometimes the opposite even. Depends on the genre and what the show wants to do. For example Black Lagoon. It's a simple, very entertaining action show. I don't want any serious topic and philosophy brought up there. It wouldn't make anything better, quite the opposite, it would only make it worse. It's important we'll know what the words we're using means. Else we're talking about nothing. I see your point and I kind of agree. I'd say adding this depth (what you defined) to a series that has a fun tone to it causes a clash. A show needs to know what it's doing - is it trying to say something profound or is it just want to have a good time? When a series doesn't know what it wants and half-heartedly does either, you're getting crap. |
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Jul 2, 2015 2:42 PM
#40
A deep and well planned out story that don't leave breadcrumbs large enough that pre-teens can follow it. Character development that unravels like a real life connection. A well crafted world that has mystery in it after the anime has finished and that makes you want to read the lore. |
Jul 2, 2015 5:25 PM
#41
Jul 2, 2015 5:57 PM
#42
I guess something like Cute High Earth Defense Club LOVE! don't come often in their lives that's why most people seems to treasure it. |
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Jul 2, 2015 6:26 PM
#43
NK_500 said: I guess something like Cute High Earth Defense Club LOVE! don't come often in their lives that's why most people seems to treasure it. Haven't seen it, so I can't say. In case this was directed at my post, I was implying that the rare and unique thing is specifically in this case, depth. |
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Jul 2, 2015 6:50 PM
#44
lustylady said: well, i usually get called pretentious too, but whatever. i mean people who watch deep anime usually consindering himself as a cool person sometimes intellectual person, I think you need to split the hair there. Are there pretentious people who like anything because it is "deep"? Absolutely. ANN reviewers were loaded with them (haven't been there in 2 years so it may have changed, though I doubt it). But people also get passionate about things they like, and "deep" shows do tend to be more interesting than generic shows (not always or even vastly though), so it is only commonsense that someone would get excited by a show that interests them (source: me) The way to differentiate between the two is simple. First, the posers will like ANY show they think is deep, Second, they will dump on shows just because they are popular. Third, when they try to explain why they like the show they will talk about depth generally, not specifically, so when you press them their argument will be reduced to a tautology: I like it because it is deep, it is deep because I like it. The fan who likes it because it is interesting can go on, at great depth, about what specifically they like about the show (again, source: me). |
Jul 2, 2015 7:52 PM
#45
Zergneedsfood said: Why not just ask why people get excited and passionate about anything? What a stupid thread. |
Jul 2, 2015 8:14 PM
#46
Zergneedsfood said: Why not just ask why people get excited and passionate about anything? What a stupid thread. well, sorry for the stupid thread, because i'm stupid person. i just want to asking something, thats what stupid people do. sorry if i can't make a smart thread. |
Jul 3, 2015 5:31 AM
#47
There are a lot of bad anime in any given year which could be why some people find a sense of superiority when they find an anime worth watching. The "deep" anime usually have above average plot development and avoid relying too much on anime tropes. Most anime end as a cliff hanger to buy the manga, falls apart in the second half, the characters do stupid things for the sake of the plot, bad fan service, random harems, etc. When people find an anime that has barely any of those things listed, they probably found a good anime that is worth showing to someone that is not an Otaku. |
Jul 3, 2015 5:34 AM
#48
Jul 3, 2015 5:40 AM
#49
Serial Experiments Lain has great art, but come on, it has no real plotline |
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