| I feel like a strong female anime lead is one that can take care of herself and also to break free from the stereotypes that they were made from and actually get proper characterisation and development. Name some examples of strong female anime leads as well. What really comes up to my mind at the moment is The Major from Ghost in the Shell, Horo from Spice and Wolf, San from Princess Mononoke and I'm not sure if you consider it, but Rin from Usagi Drop. |
| I don't mind stereotypes, but I would like my female characters non-sexualized. My favorite female character as of now is Noda Megumi from Nodame Cantabile, she's not particularly strong willed, but it is what makes her, her. I wouldn't say that Rin was well written. Horo was fine but sometimes it gets a bit annoying when she relied too much on Lawrence, when she couldn't get her love she goes emo and shit (season 2 bruh). Her teasing was amusing but that's all. |
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| One that is just a good character. I don't really get why female characters need to jump through extra hoops and arbitrary criteria, to be considered good and strong. Double standards smh. As for examples: Senjougahra Hitagi (my favorite character ever) Mogami, Kyouko from Skip Beat Hana from Wolf Children Maka from Soul Eater etc |
tsudecimoJun 21, 2015 2:06 AM
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tsudecimo said: One that is just a good character. I don't really get why female characters need to jump through extra hoops and arbitrary criteria, to be considered good and strong. Double standards smh. kinda this |
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| given the fact that women are always portrayed as defenseless little things because of their weak body structure i am inclined to say that characters like Tomiko Asahina from SSY and Balalaïka from black lagoon are more empowering to women , they are unique in the way they develop and acquired their status and they have achieved this not through brute strength but other means. Dont get me wrong , i like characters like Erza and Nico Robin, but they are hardly "out of the ordinary" and character status wise, they dont really stand out that much despite the fact that people tag them as empowering for women just because they are more capable "physically" then other characters in their respective universe. imo~~ |
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ZA_WAYD said: given the fact that women are always portrayed as defenseless little things because of their weak body structure i am inclined to say that characters like Tomiko Asahina from SSY and Balalaïka from black lagoon are more empowering to women , they are unique in the way they develop and acquired their status and they have achieved this not through brute strength but other means. Dont get me wrong , i like characters like Erza and Nico Robin, but they are hardly "out of the ordinary" and character status wise, they dont really stand out that much despite the fact that people tag them as empowering for women just because they are more capable "physically" then other characters in their respective universe. imo~~ Don't understand your critique of Erza and Nico. They were both developed characters. Them being strong physically is just one aspect. I don't keep up with FT and I haven't in awhile but you could look at Erza from the beginning to the Tower of Heaven arc where she was mainly a strict no bullshit type of person. Then made vulnerable by her friends she left when they were slaves. Which was symbolized in her wearing armor to close everything out. I stopped after Tenrou and she became more open to others and ironically less self aware of her state of dress even telling Lucy if she could she'd walk around the guild naked. I could explain Robin but that would take me longer. You give credit to Balalaika for having strength outside physical and she's intelligent and diplomatic yet the same could be said for Erza and Robin especially. |
angeleye02 said: The same things that make a strong male lead.What makes a strong female anime lead? Best examples: Oscar François de Jarget (Rose of Versailles) Nadia (the secret of blue water) Makise Kurisu (Steins;gate) etc |
| Shiki is a strong female lead She's also my waifu but that's not my point |
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angeleye02 said: THISI'm not sure if you consider it, but Rin from Usagi Drop. no pedo I'm also going to add those female characters from Honey & Clover (Hagu, Ayuu, etc.) I like those type of strong girls who are strong in dealing with their everyday depression, regrets, sorrows, etc. I don't care if she's strong willed coz being strong willed =/= strong IMO |
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| I hate strong female leads. I want my female characters to be well-developed, complex and interesting. 'Strong' characters are boring. Show me how the character struggles with its flaws. It's deeper, more entertaining and there's more to do with it. Cut the 'strong female' crap. Changing the gender of a generic action hero doesn't change the fact he's a shell. |
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Agafin said: Best examples: Makise Kurisu (Steins;gate) e_e |
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| a strong female lead would be a female character who is strong. E.G they don't always play the damsel in distress role. |
| I think the key to making empowering female characters is for them not be submissive when faced with psychological hurdles, but also the hurdles need to seem real and strong. Right now I'm watching Revolutionary Girl Utena and Utena is having a difficult time but she keeps finding the courage to push on. Major Kusanagi and Shiki (KnK) aren't binary female, so it's hard to feel the same about them. Claire from Claymore and that show in general has an interesting concept where basically the I think in the end that is a much more true portrayal of female strength than simply giving male characteristics like physical strength. |
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Lancehot said: A strong chin & powerful thighs [img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-pD-4nUUAE-6Z9.png[/ig] See her literally bursting out of expected gender roles! LOL |
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| Plain and simply, being proactive. Making decisions by her own and depending on herself in the context she develops, be it war or a school club. However, this is not necessarily what makes a good character. |
| Lots of screentime, good character exploration, brave and solid impression are what makes a strong female lead. Ange from Cross Ange |
| Being Revy. |
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| In my opinion, A good strong female lead is like Balsa Yonsa from Moribito or Erin from Kemono No Souja. A bad strong female lead is like Erza Scarlet from Fairy Tail or Lightning from Final Fantasy. |
| The same thing that makes a strong male lead. Someone who is not just an amalgamation of a few character traits and stereotypes. Someone who has their own thoughts and reacts to their environment in a believable way. Someone who has their own motivations, fears and worries and whose value is not dependent on another character. Something like that. |
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| Not to be a over sexualized and be strong and independent. |
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Exowave said: Being Revy. |
Exowave said: Being Revy. No. |
StandoffishMan said: Exowave said: Being Revy. No Yes |
guywholikesanime said: StandoffishMan said: No Yes No she is the definition of a stereotype. Balalika is where it's at. |
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| Akatsuki no Yona. |
| A strong female character is all about the muscles. But being a female character that avoids all possible tropes also helps and being independent, too... LIKE HAMAN KARN! |
| I don't know if this is the best example, but the first character that came to mind when I saw the title of this thread was Re-l Mayer from Ergo Proxy. She's quite the badass, fully capable of acting on her own, and her personality has depth. She's neither a damsel in distress nor a stoic killing machine, and you watch her character grow as the series progresses. Lancehot said: A strong chin & powerful thighs [img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-pD-4nUUAE-6Z9.png[/ img] See her literally bursting out of expected gender roles! Lmao |
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| i think some people are misinterpreting the word "strong". I'm pretty sure the OP means empowering female leads with inner strength, not necessarily physical strength. For me, characters like Claire - Claymore Michiko - Michiko to Hatchin Utena - Revolutionary Girl Utena and most ghibli leads. Going through my anime list, I am actually kind of shocked at how few compelling female leads there are outside of the world of ghibli.... non leads Ringo - Mawaru Penguindrum Kurumi - Kimi ni Todoke I don't agree with Revy or Motoko Kusanagi. Both lack the complexities/subtleties of women and seem fairly one dimensional with little to no character development. (I haven't seen Sac season 2 btw.) On the fence about Madoka for a few reasons... |
vodall said: Trentor11 said: Because God forbid strong characters in general need to lean on others right? This way of thinking has to go You are interpreting 'strong' to mean well-written, but in this context, it means independent. Why do we talk more about 'strong female leads' than 'well written female leads'? |
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| Isayama Yomi from Ga-Rei: Zero. One of my most favorite females. Makise Kurisu. She may not be strong physically but she proved to be a strong person threw her support and actions. Tsumura Tokiko. A sweet strong girl. Kiryuuin Satsuki. Very strong person, whether mentally or physically. Igawa Asagi after having her sensitive rise at incredible numbers and being raped to shit she still have the consciousnesses to fight. That is one tough ninja cookie. |
LeFlower-kun said: Akatsuki no Yona. I can't even imagine Yona by the end of the series, she's gonna be phenomenal. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: I hate strong female leads. I want my female characters to be well-developed, complex and interesting. 'Strong' characters are boring. Show me how the character struggles with its flaws. It's deeper, more entertaining and there's more to do with it. Cut the 'strong female' crap. Changing the gender of a generic action hero doesn't change the fact he's a shell. I agree with this. I also feel that same way about male leads. |
PoeticJustice said: nigga i am black, do you think my ass would fit in? "Oh look it is negro kun." Hell no. |
waterfallsxo said: TheBrainintheJar said: I hate strong female leads. I want my female characters to be well-developed, complex and interesting. 'Strong' characters are boring. Show me how the character struggles with its flaws. It's deeper, more entertaining and there's more to do with it. Cut the 'strong female' crap. Changing the gender of a generic action hero doesn't change the fact he's a shell. I agree with this. I also feel that same way about male leads. I haven't seen a 'strong male' that's praised as a great character. They're praised as cool badasses, but the male leads that actually important are those with an interesting personality - Max Cohen (Pi), Portnoy (Portnoy's Complaint), Holden Caulfield (Catcher in the Rye) come to mind. Margaret Atwood is one of the few that lets women be human, and not just damsels in distress or 'strong female characters'. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: I hate strong female leads. I want my female characters to be well-developed, complex and interesting. 'Strong' characters are boring. Show me how the character struggles with its flaws. It's deeper, more entertaining and there's more to do with it. Cut the 'strong female' crap. Changing the gender of a generic action hero doesn't change the fact he's a shell. it makes no sense to dismiss a female character just for being physically strong. A female character can be both physically strong and complex, just like male characters. |
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Trentor11 said: Because God forbid strong characters in general need to lean on others right? This way of thinking has to go No, like vodall said, it's just that strong =/= well-written. There are tons of great characters who need to lean on others at some point of their lives, but the OP didn't ask for them. |
| Kino. Kino makes a strong female lead. |
| I think the question should be worded "What makes a strong anime lead?" I feel like the same qualities apply to both genders. For me it is independent, someone who takes action, reliable, wise and uncompromising. Very few anime MC's have all or one of those qualities because in most cases the characters are in their teen years and therefore vulnerable and insecure. Of course there's the exception to the rule, when a character is just well written regardless of their qualities. StrawberryRain said: Being like Ange from Cross Ange. This, as far as female characters go she was refreshing. |
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Fullmetal89 said: I think the question should be worded "What makes a strong anime lead?" You could make your own thread about it then... |
| i don't care if the character strong or weak. independent or not. ETC. all i need is well writen character development. |
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Unyilkdr said: i don't care if the character strong or weak. independent or not. ETC. all i need is well writen character development. So you don't prefer a certain archetype? |
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