Mobile is killing gaming in Japan Metal Gear Solid ;_; |
| A drama has a progressive thought, an emotional climax and a resolution, but our lives aren't like that. All we get day after day, are a bunch of vague anxieties that are never really resolved. - Yamazaki Kaoru (Welcome to the N.H.K) |
Unyilkdr said: Ah, gomen.Cabron said: i know, i only want to see it seppuku/sodoku joke image,It was meant to be a joke. |
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
Nicoreos said: Guilty pleasures are for the weak. Just go with what your heart likes is how I'd consider a fan to be respectable. Depriving yourself of liking something is unhealthy. There's absolutely no reason why you should think the way you do not. I know why I don't like my low-graded shows. I know why I love all of the 10s I have. I've got reasons, just ask me why and I'll explain so. I'm a methodical person as it is. I don't completely agree. I want something more than enjoyment from what I read and watch. So I'm not just a fan. Edit: here's what Nico was replying to, mod deleted it, even though it's relevant: Miyazaki/Anno could always... just do something to the anime industry if they truly feel it's "dying." Problem with these situations is that these people blasting them are usually lazy rather than making a difference. Forget Rebuild, Anno's currently doing the best thing he possibly could to help the industry, so I'm quite surprised at his pessimism. |
MiporinMay 26, 2015 11:32 AM
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Nicoreos said: how commercial are the animator expo shorts anyway?Me Me Me's sales are probably low I'm guessing. |
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Cabron said: No problem.Ah, gomen. |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| but i thought that anime got more mainstream then it was b4 |
FGAU1912 said: maybe he mean in him/her country. anime was become mainstream in my country during SAO wave.macamiki said: but i thought that anime got more mainstream then it was b4 nope never or st what i manstream in thewest at lest |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| Just take a look at this season.Only dating,moe,chliché crap.Where are my mature animes like Zankyo no Terror,Death Note,Ghost in the Shell...? I switched to manga half a year ago and never looked back. |
RufusLatro said: Just take a look at this season.Only dating,moe,chliché crap.Where are my mature animes like Zankyo no Terror,Death Note,Ghost in the Shell...? I switched to manga half a year ago and never looked back. but there is a Ghost in the Shell anime airing right now this season |
RufusLatro said: Just take a look at this season.Only dating,moe,chliché crap.Where are my mature animes like Zankyo no Terror,Death Note,Ghost in the Shell...? I switched to manga half a year ago and never looked back. you did not watch monster,kaiji or shinsekai yori and you talk like there are no serious anime left to watch |
| I'm just a viewer. a perverted viewer, who only cares for ecchi and moe...... |
#CHEXIT |
zetsubousei_hero said: People said the same with Console LOL! Wrong platform, mate. It's the PC that people said was dying since 2006. But it didn't. Back to the topic, I'll say that for every 10 crap anime coming out nowadays, there'll be 3 anime worth watching and 1 pushing the boundaries by doing something a little different. Even that changes from time to time but one thing's for sure, anime is unlikely to die out anytime soon. |
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| ninja slayer trying to be different, and you know what happened to them, right? |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
j0x said: i found a better translation courtesy of reddit/r/anime https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comment That's a lot more nuanced. It would be helpful to reformulate the thread's title for a more accurate one, or else we'll continue being a blindfolded crowd talking bs. So the idea is to completely bypass the current system and to think of anime as a form of expression that could be reclaimed outside Japan. It could take out the industry from the vicious circle of low profit, safe investment and excessive dependence on a small niche of committed consumers. The problem is that no one today has the balls to push the reset button, not even him (even though he did it once with NGE). |
| It is definitely lacking in originality yes, but saying it's dying it's a little of exaggeration. |
RufusLatro said: Yeah, no.Just take a look at this season.Only dating,moe,chliché crap.Where are my mature animes like Zankyo no Terror,Death Note,Ghost in the Shell...? I switched to manga half a year ago and never looked back. I don't think you know anything about this season. |
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AzureDaora said: Nope he doesn't.RufusLatro said: Yeah, no.Just take a look at this season.Only dating,moe,chliché crap.Where are my mature animes like Zankyo no Terror,Death Note,Ghost in the Shell...? I switched to manga half a year ago and never looked back. I don't think you know anything about this season. |
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| Hollywood is garbage. |
DrCoppelius said: the entertainment business is garbage, poilitics is garbage, the ecomony is garbage, hell even your trashbag is garbage (See what I did there :3). Everything is garbage, so we just have to live with it.Kokko said: Hollywood is garbage. Mad Max Fury Road? C'mon, it's not all garbage, no more than current anime is all garbage. People really exaggerate how shitty the state of the entertainment industry is. |
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DrCoppelius said: C'mon, it's not all garbage, no more than current anime is all garbage. People really exaggerate how shitty the state of the entertainment industry is. This. I don't know what people exactly, do they want every anime/movie/TV show/Game/Song, to cater to them, or be some kind of masterpiece or great. I mean even if you think only 20% are good, that's more than enough. |
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| Cannes is a complete wankfest, although I guess Pulp Fiction winning the Palm D'or in '94 proves that they don't have their heads completely up their asses. |
| "___" is dying Replace "___" with anything else of your choice. |
| >anime is dying >2013 was the highest anime sales ok old man |
| Anime won't die. |
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| I don't think anime is dying, but quality anime might be. But this is the case with most entertainment, Western and Eastern. A lot of producers are too afraid of taking risks now. There are still a few things we can do to support the industry until they adapt better business models. For one, we could buy Blu-rays. We don't have to buy a lot of them since they're kind of expensive, maybe just our favorites. Here's my list of anime I own or plan on owning: - Akira - Haibane Renmei - JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (2012) - Kill la Kill - Kino no Tabi: The Beautiful World - Maria-sama ga Miteru - Monogatari Series - Mushishi - Ninja Scroll - Redline - Shirobako - Space Brothers - Spirited Away - The Tatami Galaxy |
Feaor said: Cannes is a complete wankfest, although I guess Pulp Fiction winning the Palm D'or in '94 proves that they don't have their heads completely up their asses. Leviathan definitely deserved to win over Winter Sleep. |
offmodel said: Milk_is_Special said: The entertainment business is garbage, poilitics is garbage, the ecomony is garbage, hell even your trashbag is garbage (See what I did there :3). Everything is garbage, so we just have to live with it. It's almost like someone said that around 500 years ago. Not everything is crap, just 90 percent of it. Nicoreos said: I don't know. If someone could clarify this for me, thanks. But either way, Anno's creativity is nothing like it was 20 years ago. It's just a piece of ad hominem of his distaste towards everything he hates about anime today. It isn't all that commercial, they're streamed for free and partly funded by grants iirc. The point is to be a an expo, a showcase of animation. Also, Anno is the executive producer and the head of the main studio making the shorts, he isn't writing or directing any. offmodel said: One other thing I wanted to say, I think my real problem with these arguments is that they are pretending anime is somehow unique in this, when Hollywood is just as bad, if not worse. It's not that recent either, almost 20 years ago, Alex Proyas made the great Dark City, only to have it flop and see The Matrix turn a huge profit dumbing down his concept. That meant that when he wanted to do a film adaptation of I, Robot he had to Matrix-ize it to get financing and attach Will Smith, leaving us with this travesty: It's a general trend in entertainment, singling out anime is missing the point entirely. Absolutely, and Hollywood may be worse than it could be but it sure ain't dead. |
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| +1 to whoever said that Cannes is better than HW OT: It's funny that we have a lot of people creating threads to make the same complain ultimately to be made fun of for their low completed anime count or the fact that their opinions are irrelevant for the industry. Then we have veterans and influential anime fans and producers doing the same thing (Miyazaki, Tomino, Anno). |
Agafin said: OT: It's funny that we have a lot of people creating threads to make the same complain ultimately to be made fun of for their low completed anime count or the fact that their opinions are irrelevant for the industry. Then we have veterans and influential anime fans and producers doing the same thing (Miyazaki, Tomino, Anno). If those 3 had MAL accounts here, I can't imagine their completed anime list being that much bigger than your average experienced Mal user. |
| Isn't the OP post more about the financial constraints in the industry rather a criticism on the quality of modern anime? So why are people responding as if he's critiquing modern anime? I don't really get the hate towards Anno's statement, what he's saying sounds like a legit concern to me. I don't know much about the industry in Japan, but if there's any truth to Shirobako then I'd be concerned as well. I feel like there needs to be a huge cultural shift when it comes to working in Japan. |
FGAU1912 said: DrGeroCreation said: Japanese Blurays are too expensive for westerners. Otakus can buy blurays and additional money will come from the west in the form of subscription based services. Win win money making strategy. but pople ca affoed to buy and 1000 usd plus pc and by parts fr it 250 pop PC is an investment and gaming (even crappy mobile money pits sad to say) are an investment. |
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Zergneedsfood said: mobile gaming is so profitable lol It is in Japan but it got it's profit by unethical and illegal tactics. |
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RufusLatro said: Just take a look at this season.Only dating,moe,chliché crap.Where are my mature animes like Zankyo no Terror,Death Note,Ghost in the Shell...? I switched to manga half a year ago and never looked back. In other words, you only want mature anime for mature people like yourself? You're a minority, and the industry is doing fine pandering to people who PAY for anime. |
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Okiura said: So the idea is to completely bypass the current system and to think of anime as a form of expression that could be reclaimed outside Japan. It could take out the industry from the vicious circle of low profit, safe investment and excessive dependence on a small niche of committed consumers. The problem is that no one today has the balls to push the reset button, not even him (even though he did it once with NGE). Yeah, you're right, Anno was more optimistic than Seventhstyle—and the Japanese news sites—were making him out to be. Here's the Russian translation of the interview. However, he did say that the adaptations needed to make anime original "won't make money"; I don't agree with his pessimism about the current anime industry's ability to make some good series in the mix. NudeBear said: Isn't the OP post more about the financial constraints in the industry rather a criticism on the quality of modern anime? So why are people responding as if he's critiquing modern anime? I don't really get the hate towards Anno's statement, what he's saying sounds like a legit concern to me. I don't know much about the industry in Japan, but if there's any truth to Shirobako then I'd be concerned as well. I feel like there needs to be a huge cultural shift when it comes to working in Japan. (Anno was talking about originality too.) Yes, Japanese law, business practices, and cultural attitudes need to change; as it is, they're moving from one unsustainable system, everyone working for a company for life, to a worse one, reliance on casual and part-time workers. However, the problem is not unique to the anime industry; animation studios don't offer particularly bad wages, and only for animation jobs for that matter. (I think the current government in Japan wants to change the law, although they have taken some retrograde steps.) For anime to die, you'd need a lot more animators quitting or moving elsewhere in the world, as Anno suggests. Maybe animation will shift toward Taiwan, but I can't see an animation industry developing much further in most other countries. DrCoppelius said: Ah, that is a shame. I'll cross my fingers for copyright reform for now then, since I think it would actually end up helping the industry--but that might just be my optimism talking. The DMCA's proviso on circumventing DMR is just really stupid, so maybe it can be ended, but the TPP is likely to contain something locking the US, Japan, etc. into something of this sort. |
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Moodie said: >anime is dying >2013 was the highest anime sales ok old man SNK did a really good job back then :) |
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