| Do they expect the reader to be too dumb to know that an older anime is going to have older art? If they're reading the review anyway aren't the chances they don't care because if they did they wouldn't take the time to look into the anime anyway. |
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| Some people (me) actually prefer some of the 80s/90s style, so it can also be a turn-on when mentioned in a review. |
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malvarez1 said: Yeah same here except they always say it as a bad thing and deduct points off for it rather than judging it based on how it was when it came out.Some people (me) actually prefer some of the 80s/90s style, so it can also be a turn-on when mentioned in a review. |
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| So people can make a thread about that eventually. |
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offmodel said: malvarez1 said: Some people (me) actually prefer some of the 80s/90s style, so it can also be a turn-on when mentioned in a review. I actually agree with that, my point was more like this: Saying a show from the 80's looks like it is from the 80's in a review is like saying "Fun things are fun". Waifu_Strangler said: Yeah same here except they always say it as a bad thing and deduct points off for it rather than judging it based on how it was when it came out. I would gripe about that more, but I'm pretty sure I give all Leiji Mastumoto character design shows an automatic +2. I'll rate Starzinger a 9 if I want to. :p I love his art style but you gotta admit he has an issue with versatility in character design especially when it come to ladies. |
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FGAU1912 said: this the art is not dated the animation maybe but he art know poeople mess up with these two all the time art can't be dated because that implies inferiority, while it could just be a style of times |
| The only time I think it's reasonable to point that out is when it's phrased like "You know, for this time period this show has good animation/especially bad animation". Complaining about a 80s or 90s show for having worse animation than newer shows is petty to me. However, maybe that's just because when it comes to animation I'm wayyy lenient with that and that goes triple/quadruple for manga when it comes to art (two of my favorite manga are from the 70s). |
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| Maybe because the general opinion is that new = always better (thanks, Apple) so even people who review old anime feel the need to conform to this because they fear downvoting. Kind of like justifying themselves for watching old anime in front of the anime community. 'I know, it's old but at least I can admit it has 'shit' art so please don't judge me too hard and take my opinion on it seriously!'. All the newfags will probably disregard any review that dares to say something old looks gorgeous, even if it does. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Waifu_Strangler said: Do they expect the reader to be too dumb to know that an older anime is going to have older art? Yes. That's what I was going to type after just reading the title. At least it seems that way to me. |
| The difference is that graphics quality in general is pretty much monotonically increasing in video games, whereas there's plenty of old stuff that is far better animated that stuff coming out now. |
| I think I'll start reviewing current/recent anime by calling their animation/art dated; that way my reviews will be "future-proofed" if people read them in 2021 or whenever. |
Zalis said: I think I'll start reviewing current/recent anime by calling their animation/art dated; that way my reviews will be "future-proofed" if people read them in 2021 or whenever. Lmao |
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offmodel said: If Lupin ever dons a orange jacket he will be dead to me due to his apparently poor fashion sense.Just come to the dark side and make Lupin III your favorite anime. Other anime get old, Lupin just keeps going. You will never win an old animation argument with a Lupin fan, I fully expect to watch a new orange jacket series in 2037. |
| Because it's a valid point. |
| Ignore reviews here man. 95% of them are trash anyway. |
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| You have to take any review with a grain of salt. If I see, "the art/animation is outdated," I take that as, the look of the anime is "old school." I like art and animation from all eras, so this doesn't deter me from watching a series. In fact, sometimes it makes me want to check out the series. I don't have a problem with people mentioning this aspect because it just better prepares me from what I am about to watch. Of course, this only applies to something I'm weary of watching in the first place. |
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Kagami_Hiiragi said: siIgnore reviews here man. 95% of them are trash anyway. correcto I can only trust this guy in MAL reviews |
DiginarcissaApr 30, 2015 1:57 AM
| Twitter and it's consequences had been a disaster for the human race |
| Maybe they don't know what to pick apart in the 'art' category in their reviews, so they just take the easy way out and point out that the art is dated. |
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| Some people may do it so that they can maintain the attention of readers who don't particularly like older anime. I see it in episode discussions often, when the general consensus is that something was bad, the people who liked it will say something like "It wasn't the most original thing in the world, but it was still good" as if to appease the majority that doesn't agree with them. This is an excerpt from my review for Sword Art Online in 2047 - "The art is no doubt dated, but it is still a timeless classic that shouldn't be missed." |
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| Its all stupid anyway.There could be a 70's/80's anime title which looks objectively bad to most people ,but in fact had more work put into it (backgrounds details,landscapes...) and just overall much more attention to details than recent series which sometimes re-use the same assets or don't have that many scenes that required animating going on. Notable example Zetsuen No Tempest and Noragami, which are downright indistinguishable and makes you confused where one starts and the other ends. |
| I sometimes watch chinese cartoons/stuff and share unsolicited opinions. |
| I usually don't care about animation so it seems pointless for me. But i guess is because anime reviewers like to be Captain Obvious. |
Hulohot said: I usually don't care about animation so it seems pointless for me. But i guess is because anime reviewers like to be Captain Obvious. I think it is more of an attempt to cater to the wide range of audience. Because there are someone out there who gets turned off by certain art style and still couldn't take a hint from the anime covers. Just like some people complaining about ecchi shows for being too lewd. |
| The most important things in life is the people that you care about |
Remv_quevav said: Kagami_Hiiragi said: siIgnore reviews here man. 95% of them are trash anyway. correcto I can only trust this guy in MAL reviews +1 archaeon |
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Kagami_Hiiragi said: Ignore reviews here man. 95% of them are trash anyway. this |
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| I don't read reviews, but I think it would be pointless to mention that something looks like it's from the 80s on an 80s anime. Reviews should tell the reader things that aren't readily apparent from the page - same reason a synopsis is unnecessary. But, I can see mentioning for example that the mecha are all shitty CG, that is not always a given for a specific time period. People shouldn't concern themselves with people who can't watch old anime - especially not those that can't even tell if something is old or not. Waifu_Strangler said: I love his art style but you gotta admit he has an issue with versatility in character design especially when it come to ladies. I just figured they were all supposed to be Maetel. |
| Not like it's wrong |
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| I think there is a big difference between "old" and "dated". "Old" doesn't necessarily has a negative connotation, whereas "dated" usualy does. So when someone says that the art is dated, it's not because the show came out in 1980, it's because it came out in 1980 AND they believe that it looks bad by modern standards. IMO it's a valuable remark to make, I don't see any problem here. Some old animes look beautiful even today, other - not really. |
FGAU1912 said: Syndiciate said: 7Because it's a valid point. it not HaXXspetten said: Not like it's wrong it is not there is good art abd bad art no matter what It is. Then they bring up the fact that the animation is bad and why it is bad along with also mentioning that it's dated. |
| "80's anime art is dated" -Michelangelo Buonarroti |
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Kinkara said: "80's anime art is dated" -Michelangelo Buonarroti Technically it is nearly 40 years old. |
| Compare Psycho Pass to the original Doraemon while you are at it. Any point can be proved using the right choices. |
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FGAU1912 said: animation may be better otday but art lacks detail these days look at kyo ani stuff animtion maybe good but the Characters lack detail so animation does not show a big increase cuase the lack of detail look at gundam 0079 they look human at the body ae realistic demaentions cpmpaoe to Lucky star waht has more detaled art style I think you've mistaken my opinion. I don't think dated animation is necessarily bad or good but as was mentioned above some people prefer it and some people dislike it and it's good for those who have a strong opinion on it to know what they're getting themselves into hence the validity of mentioning dated animation. Mod Edit: Modified quote tower; please spoiler or remove old quotes. |
MasterTengkorakApr 30, 2015 11:26 AM
| It is the same with every art form people write about, go on rateyourmusic or imdb or goodreads or wherever the public review stuff. When I see "it's dated" I go GOOD I'll give it ago and remind myself of a time when the world was slightly less insane batshit guano caca ghey crazy. If I search for it there's probably some fuckwit saying the mona lisa or the Sistine Chapel is a bit dated looking. |
FGAU1912 said: i went ot art school and id i i showed the art from a cell from gundam and print out of a still from Kyo ani show from that year 2005/6 and he asked were is the detail in the kyo ani piv both were still frames so there is no bias there There is. Getting the opinion of one person does not equal the opinion of the entire medium which has extremely varied opinions in and of itself. Mod Edit: Modified quote tower; please spoiler or remove old quotes. |
MasterTengkorakApr 30, 2015 11:27 AM
FGAU1912 said: nay one who as eye for art can see that monst maden anime lack detail in Character art MOE artstyle lacks detail in character desisan look at any kyo anii work[ the leder of th moe arty style [ e i odnt hink thye have odne more than 3 shows in 30mplus years of exsistace that are not MOE in art style ie lacking detail ie humans not looking humans fr one I'm sorry I don't know the "maden" genre of anime so I can't offer my own opinions on it but I don't believe that an art school student can speak for the entire medium no matter how much of an eye for art he or she has. Again I can't comment on this and I don't watch moe enough to have an opinion but that's a pretty broad statement to post without any evidence. Humans not looking for what? Mod Edit: Modified quote tower; please spoiler or remove old quotes. |
MasterTengkorakApr 30, 2015 11:30 AM
| I played Madden 98 on Sega. It sucked. |
FGAU1912 said: look at what kyoko from Maison to every moe lead girl otday who look more like ad real person it someone some could really find legitimately nice to look at if yoi saw a person who loke someone from lucky star r kon owuld you think there cute irl no ie there alck of abilty oto make detail human lookiing chartcers isa bihg kock on kyo ani and most moe shows I have no idea what you just said. |
MasterTengkorakApr 30, 2015 11:33 AM
| Some old art still looks good though. GITS SAC looks way better than a lot of shows coming out today for example. |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| The word "dated" itself is incredibly absurd. I never find the right way to use it. |
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