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Feb 21, 2015 8:33 AM

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Yeah finally leon takes after his father and gets some. oh boy look a cute girl for alfonso in the next episode, shes so fucked.

CookingPriest said:
OH lawd, all the poor otaku and and their rage over sexual intimacy. Not "pure" enough for you? Did they have to hold hands longer? Not enough virgins in the pairing? Deal With it.

Both Ema and Leon lost their love interests and are dealing with grief. The episode actually foreshadows it as you can very clearly see Leon have very different reactions to Ema's behavior through episode than usual - his reactions to her flirting and teasing are very different because he still lacks clear emotional stability in regards of losing someone he was so close to AND because he has matured(and Ema did hint before at possibility of something more between them once he stops being a kid/teen).

The Ending is pretty much grief sex it seems - both of them lost someone they care about and this is the way they deal with it.

Both characters have reasons to want intimacy and both characters can be seen as substituting their grief for their loved ones with it. AND both characters have displayed sexual attraction to each other before.

Its quite realistic that Garo decided to do stuff like this because the usual romances we see in anime are usually highly overblown "destined pairings" - rarely do we actually get nonchalant no-attachment-or-consequences sex.

Garo has always approached sex very liberally, so this is no different.
yes to all of this, they are coping with loss both of them. I actually took note of how leon reacted to the flirting much differently this time around so when it got around to him and ema alone together at the end i did have that thought to myself that they'd go for eachother
JizzyHitlerFeb 21, 2015 8:37 AM

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Feb 21, 2015 9:12 AM

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HybridMBL said:

Look at this badass over here. People aren't criticizing Garo because they hooked up or because they weren't "pure" or what not. That's just your arrogance talking.

The way Garo has paced out its story this cour made what should've been a climactic moment between these two characters fall flat. German and Ximena's one night stand was arguably built up and executed better than Leon x Ema


Well said.

I also want to make clear that I am alright if they were both dealing with grief so they had sex as a form of escapism but the fact that Leon has no prior sexual experience and HE was the one who grabbed HER and held HER down to initiate the sex was unrealistic to me. Doesn't matter how more mature he is now, virgin's don't act like that unless they are very perverted or desperately desire sex and considering his stoic and serious personality, it was out of character.


I don't have a problem with Leon responding to her kiss. What I do have a problem with, is the pacing of this show. My goodness, Lara just passed away two episodes ago lol. I don't mind the romance between Leon and Ema but this is just so abrupt. I'm beginning to think that the producers have always planned that Ema and Leon would be together but they were facing constraints of the 24 episode limit. As a result, all of Ema's background and story was squeezed into one episode. Or maybe this was just a one time thing. I'm curious what the next episode is gonna show.
Feb 21, 2015 11:29 AM

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darkshrimp said:
Keten said:


Well said.

I also want to make clear that I am alright if they were both dealing with grief so they had sex as a form of escapism but the fact that Leon has no prior sexual experience and HE was the one who grabbed HER and held HER down to initiate the sex was unrealistic to me. Doesn't matter how more mature he is now, virgin's don't act like that unless they are very perverted or desperately desire sex and considering his stoic and serious personality, it was out of character.


I don't have a problem with Leon responding to her kiss. What I do have a problem with, is the pacing of this show. My goodness, Lara just passed away two episodes ago lol. I don't mind the romance between Leon and Ema but this is just so abrupt. I'm beginning to think that the producers have always planned that Ema and Leon would be together but they were facing constraints of the 24 episode limit. As a result, all of Ema's background and story was squeezed into one episode. Or maybe this was just a one time thing. I'm curious what the next episode is gonna show.


someone still does not seem to get what "grief sex" is. lol.
Feb 21, 2015 12:30 PM

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It was great battle between Ema and Lucciano, but wtf was that scene of Leon kissing Ema?!... We know the both lost the person which they loved, but what the hell happened with your feelings about Lara's death, Leon? x(
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Feb 21, 2015 1:39 PM
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Good episode. Great character development of Leon. Some angry teen becomes an adult. This is grief sex for sure. Why all the " I don't like it ! " ? it's sooo like real life - the pre sex scene, they both lost their loved ones. BUT EMA KILLED HER HUSBAND HERSELF ! this episode is really tragic. It's normal for her to kiss Leon in this conclusion of events. She does have a man right in front of her. SO why not ? He was teased A LOT during series. I think I would rage out and just **** her.. and that's what Leon did xD This is a seinen anime so sex is expected. That Ema x Leon. I was surprised that they actually did it or at least hinted it. It's very rare to see sex or hint of in anime that don't suck.
The last scene was like : I will get drunk to numb my pain . I finally have done it I have killed HIM. Why did you touch me ? you are a just a boy are you ? He can see her despair. As did she... the kiss... the response. it's all normal if you have ever felt passion. OMG 1st post so long *_*
Feb 21, 2015 2:14 PM

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Leon x Ema-chan all the way
Glad Ema is still alive
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Feb 21, 2015 2:18 PM

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If only every episode of this show had been even half as good as this one.

Character development, an interesting plot, some legit dramatic weight and a really good-looking action sequence to hit it home.
Feb 21, 2015 2:37 PM
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I'm suprised that watchdog turned out to be a guy.

I was surprised when reading the subs too. But I actually think FUNimation had just screwed-up the translation.


The Watchdogs are neither male nor female, just like angels. In fact, they are no longer even human even if they were in the past.
bla bla bla
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Feb 21, 2015 2:46 PM

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Leon my boy, welcome to family.
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Feb 21, 2015 5:15 PM

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That ending made me laugh like cmon Leon Lara died 2 episodes ago
Feb 21, 2015 8:13 PM

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Great episode, since the beginning of story was curious about what Emma chasing, its history was not so different from the usual, but the denouement that drew attention

The pain of losing the loved person Leon knew, still do not conform me that Lara died, but I'm curious about the final development of this anime season ..
Feb 21, 2015 11:37 PM

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That's quite good, but I wished Emma's backtsroy was longer(maybe 2 episodes would be enough). It did not feel impactful/meaningful enough. And I really do not mind Leon & Emma pairing. I know their relationship has been more to "the experienced & the amateur" than romantic, but at least it's not out of place. I mean, Emma has been there for Leon(not all the time, but still) when he was in despair/no one there, so they ended up together should not have surprised anyone. They are only humans who have sexual desires.
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Feb 22, 2015 12:24 AM
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Lara just died 2 episodes ago...ain't this going to fast?

The battle scenes are getting better (i.e. aerial battle where the clouds were animated)
Feb 22, 2015 12:50 AM

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ssj4jw said:
Heck, Real Drive has a 15 year girl get with a guy pushing 80.
Because of this namedrop, I'm now watching that shit:D

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I know their relationship has been more to "the experienced & the amateur" than romantic, but at least it's not out of place. I mean, Emma has been there for Leon(not all the time, but still) when he was in despair/no one there, so they ended up together should not have surprised anyone. They are only humans who have sexual desires.
Herman kinda watched over Alfonso with the same kinda vibe of an experienced warrior looking out for a young inexperienced one, but that doesn't mean they should end up in bed together... Especially with attenuating circumstances like considerable age difference (at the beginning Leon was only 16, even with time skips he's only 17, 18 at most atm) and Lara's death happening only a very short time ago...
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Feb 22, 2015 1:21 AM

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CG said:
Herman kinda watched over Alfonso with the same kinda vibe of an experienced warrior looking out for a young inexperienced one, but that doesn't mean they should end up in bed together... Especially with attenuating circumstances like considerable age difference (at the beginning Leon was only 16, even with time skips he's only 17, 18 at most atm) and Lara's death happening only a very short time ago...

Well, probably because Herman is his father. So . . . I did not even consider Herman x Leon, but it seems that you did . . .
Age difference does not make their relationship unfeasible. There are many couples with huge age differences in real world.
For us, it's just a two episodes ago. But how long has it been in that world time? It's possible that it has been a year since Lara's death.
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Feb 22, 2015 3:42 AM

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wakka9ca said:
Rayzer said:

I was surprised when reading the subs too. But I actually think FUNimation had just screwed-up the translation.


The Watchdogs are neither male nor female, just like angels. In fact, they are no longer even human even if they were in the past.

It would be much better if they classified Garm as "It" or "That Creature" would be appropriate.

And please stop complaining about Emma's back story being rushed.
None of the back stories in here had last for 2 or more consecutive episodes in the first place.
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Feb 22, 2015 4:04 AM

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Rayzer said:
And please stop complaining about Emma's back story being rushed.
None of the back stories in here had last for 2 or more consecutive episodes in the first place.

Yes, I know, but that does not mean we cannot criticize Emma's backstory for the rushed pacing. When an anime always doing certain thing badly does not mean that bad thing should be tolerated.
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Feb 22, 2015 4:35 AM

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That's quite good, but I wished Emma's backtsroy was longer(maybe 2 episodes would be enough). It did not feel impactful/meaningful enough.

Yeah it feels rushed but I'm glad they did only one episode because in my opinion it would be boring if they had stretched for two episodes or more Emma's backstory.

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OH lawd, all the poor otaku and and their rage over sexual intimacy. Not "pure" enough for you? Did they have to hold hands longer? Not enough virgins in the pairing? Deal With it.

Both Ema and Leon lost their love interests and are dealing with grief. The episode actually foreshadows it as you can very clearly see Leon have very different reactions to Ema's behavior through episode than usual - his reactions to her flirting and teasing are very different because he still lacks clear emotional stability in regards of losing someone he was so close to AND because he has matured(and Ema did hint before at possibility of something more between them once he stops being a kid/teen).

The Ending is pretty much grief sex it seems - both of them lost someone they care about and this is the way they deal with it.

Both characters have reasons to want intimacy and both characters can be seen as substituting their grief for their loved ones with it. AND both characters have displayed sexual attraction to each other before.

Its quite realistic that Garo decided to do stuff like this because the usual romances we see in anime are usually highly overblown "destined pairings" - rarely do we actually get nonchalant no-attachment-or-consequences sex.

Garo has always approached sex very liberally, so this is no different.

I can't agree more. It was the perfect example of grief sex. People calling it unrealistic really should know more about it.

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Feb 22, 2015 8:07 AM
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Ok now they've lost their fucking mind. That end was ridiculous. The episode was ok and I was surprised and kinda glad Ema survived (I swear I saw it coming both times that she drops onto that pole. Real surprise she didn't) but Leon and Ema just don't fit together.

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And the hell?! What was with that ending scene... What about Lara... she just died :(


Not to forget Ema just killed her "husband", too.
Feb 22, 2015 8:10 AM

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Yeah it feels rushed but I'm glad they did only one episode because in my opinion it would be boring if they had stretched for two episodes or more Emma's backstory.

If they stretched it but with the same amount of information with this one episode, of course it would. They could add more of Emma's point of view and interaction with her ex-husband in the flashback & maybe explore the concept of Horrors could be cured more. Because the flashback was really just a string of information without any emotion attached to it, & for her own flashback, her screentime/dialogue in the flashback was so minimal.
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Feb 22, 2015 8:38 AM

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Well, probably because Herman is his father. So . . . I did not even consider Herman x Leon, but it seems that you did . . .
Huh? What? My post clearly says "Alfonso", y'know? Where the heck HermanxLeon came from? Seems to me it's definitely not me whose mind is warped.
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Feb 22, 2015 10:00 AM

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Leon x Alfonso IMO.

My only complaint though is that the last few episodes don't seem to have much cohesion other than Leon's time with the peasant family. Would be great if the next few got the ulterior plot going.
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Feb 22, 2015 10:42 AM

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Damn that ending. What a perv pig that boy is. ^^ haahh, there goes the memory of Lara, the girl he loved. already fogotten. ahahah
Feb 22, 2015 2:40 PM

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CG said:
Huh? What? My post clearly says "Alfonso", y'know? Where the heck HermanxLeon came from? Seems to me it's definitely not me whose mind is warped.

I am sorry, my bad. It seems that my mind is warped & messed up.
Anyway, that is still not possible since Herman is obviously heterosexual.(at least as far as I know & what clearly the anime has been telling us) And even if he were bisexual, that does not mean he would be with Alfonso. Even though Alfonso & Herman have the same kind of interaction /relationship with Emma & Leon, that does not mean both of them would have the same outcome. In short, EmmaxLeon is possible & does not mean every single pair who have the same interaction with them will always end up together, just like real life.
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Feb 22, 2015 8:59 PM

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The ending... I thought "OHH!~well, well"
Very good. That is what grief sex is all about, it perturbed us about what will happen next. These two have been through so much and just needed to let it all go. I really liked this scene, I was quite satisfied knowing how realistic this is, when two grown people comfort each other, this is definitely one way they could/would. Brava!

Feb 22, 2015 9:49 PM

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Am I like the only one that has seen the whole Ema x Leon thing coming since the first time we met her in the first cour? I mean, don't get me wrong, I loved Lara and definitely didn't want her dying like that- but Ema's had a thing for Leon since day one, so this isn't really a shocker.

Honestly, Leon. Way to deal with your grief bro, cleaning up after your father all these years should have taught you better than that. LOL They're both drinking, and she was obviously quite intoxicated, and they've both lost their loved ones recently- so this kind of behavior is not uncommon. While I've seen the Ema x Leon thing coming from the start, this was not the way I wanted it to happen. They're gonna wake up tomorrow sober and feeling all awkward, it's gonna be weird for a while and she's going to have him charged with stalking because she doesn't understand that constant surveillance is just another way to say I love you. LOL You moved to another town and got a restraining order? Challenge accepted.

Actually the preview makes it seem like they will be fine the morning after, so it's all good I guess.

Okay, moving on... That aerial fight looked bad ass, it was animated really well, but... What the actual fuck? A bird-jet with laser beams? I'm sorry I thought this was medieval fantasy not Luke's training on Dagobah.
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Feb 23, 2015 7:20 AM

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Yes! Leon is not a kid anymore! we all know what that means...hehehe...have your way with Ema!


Feb 23, 2015 7:42 AM

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Further proof that repays us viewers for the two previous episodes a bit dull, a new affirmation of what can be exciting and enjoyable this TV series when it gets tough.
Narration more than satisfactory as an act than as history.
Quality of the designs great, although on a few occasions the level has dropped, discrete animations.
The final twist was in the air but confirms an idea that I had already done some time ago, I wonder if Lara is still in the heart of Leon or is it just a sweet memory.
Soundtrack convincing.
Feb 24, 2015 11:20 PM

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Well, it looks like my boy Leon has finally become a man. Still bummed out by what happened to Lara. So this made me happy since I always thought these two looked good with each other. Though I gotta say, I did not see that hair-blade coming in the end. Some Bayonetta shit right there. I thought the ring that held her hair in a ponytail was just hiding some more wire.

So, can I assume that these two are steady now? Because I sure hope so.

Wait, did they just call that white-clad effeminate Garm a "he"? I always though he was a she. What are you doing, funimation subs!?
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Another excellent action scene with splendid fight choreography.
They've been hinting at Leon x Ema with all their constant bickering and teasing in the earlier episodes especially in the scene with the prostitutes at the market. It has been stated since the beginning that Leon had to lose his virginity eventually to become a full-fledged Makai Knight and considering that Ema is the only significant female figure in his life who hasn't bit the dust yet it was only a matter of time until their relationship developed into something more...
Mar 2, 2015 5:09 PM

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Fuck yeah that was awesome. Loved this episode. Really happy about Leon and Ema, makes a lot of sense. Hope this wont end in tragedy that be way too cliche.
Mar 12, 2015 2:23 AM

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Poor guy :(

And the hell?! What was with that ending scene... What about Lara... she just died :(


That is exactly why. Because she just died. Why do people not get this shit? The guy is hurt and need comfort, the same goes with Emma that was "celebrating" by getting her self half drunk trying to forget she just killed her husband. They found comfort at each other.
Sometimes is not about some big romance or love story, sometimes is just about feelings the others warmth.

CookingPriest said:
OH lawd, all the poor otaku and and their rage over sexual intimacy. Not "pure" enough for you? Did they have to hold hands longer? Not enough virgins in the pairing? Deal With it.

Both Ema and Leon lost their love interests and are dealing with grief. The episode actually foreshadows it as you can very clearly see Leon have very different reactions to Ema's behavior through episode than usual - his reactions to her flirting and teasing are very different because he still lacks clear emotional stability in regards of losing someone he was so close to AND because he has matured(and Ema did hint before at possibility of something more between them once he stops being a kid/teen).

The Ending is pretty much grief sex it seems - both of them lost someone they care about and this is the way they deal with it.

Both characters have reasons to want intimacy and both characters can be seen as substituting their grief for their loved ones with it. AND both characters have displayed sexual attraction to each other before.

Its quite realistic that Garo decided to do stuff like this because the usual romances we see in anime are usually highly overblown "destined pairings" - rarely do we actually get nonchalant no-attachment-or-consequences sex.

Garo has always approached sex very liberally, so this is no different.


Exactly. That is why it feels "out of place" to all this silly teenagers here on Mal that all they know about intimacy is school confession bullshit. Also you have to laugh at their OMG the have age difference! Damn! close minded as fuck.

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CookingPriest said:
OH lawd, all the poor otaku and and their rage over sexual intimacy. Not "pure" enough for you? Did they have to hold hands longer? Not enough virgins in the pairing? Deal With it.


Look at this badass over here. People aren't criticizing Garo because they hooked up or because they weren't "pure" or what not. That's just your arrogance talking.

The way Garo has paced out its story this cour made what should've been a climactic moment between these two characters fall flat. German and Ximena's one night stand was arguably built up and executed better than Leon x Ema


Actually you just admitted that you fall exactly into that "not holding hand together enough" bullshit category by wanting your little built-up. Herman and Ximera was built-up because it wasn't a one night thing at all and it was a relationship. If Herman finishes what he is doing and ever decides to stay put he will probably go to her.
Of course Ema and Leon hadn't got a built-up. They weren't fucking suppose to. Is that really so hard to get? Their sex night didn't came out of some romance but out from desperation of loss. You don't have built-up for that shit. They are just licking each others wounds.
The fact that you think all sexual shit must happen with some silly romance built-ups simply shows how immature and non-understanding you are.

Also sorry to say it but you kids with your little i-phones and over-privileged life can't possibly understand this people living in a completely different era and on the edge of death fighting with horrifying beings. That is also why is silly when people criticize Herman for his way of life.
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I'll admit I wasn't really paying much attention to Emma throughout the show, but this episode really gave her that well deserved screen time. Finally finding out what she was hunting and bringing closure to that was an awesome follow up to last episode. Oh man, that kiss at the end though. Throughout this episode I was thinking "there's some chemistry between them, but no way they're gonna go for it" but yowza, Emma makin' a move like a champ. Take that young boy and ignite the passion in him.

Edit: ^ I'm going to have to slightly disagree and say that there was definitely build up, but it was all very subtle. Emma has always taken an interest in Leon and treated him more like a naive play thing to tease, but once he started to show his growth and development, she started to really see him as a man. It wasn't like it was carefully and intricately planned out though as romance is furthest from the main focus of Garo anyway.

But with that said the whole idea of "licking each other's wounds" sounds good. Both are heartbroken and trying to move forward from the pasts they've just buried. That was resonating between them.
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CookingPriest said:
OH lawd, all the poor otaku and and their rage over sexual intimacy. Not "pure" enough for you? Did they have to hold hands longer? Not enough virgins in the pairing? Deal With it.

Both Ema and Leon lost their love interests and are dealing with grief. The episode actually foreshadows it as you can very clearly see Leon have very different reactions to Ema's behavior through episode than usual - his reactions to her flirting and teasing are very different because he still lacks clear emotional stability in regards of losing someone he was so close to AND because he has matured(and Ema did hint before at possibility of something more between them once he stops being a kid/teen).

The Ending is pretty much grief sex it seems - both of them lost someone they care about and this is the way they deal with it.

Both characters have reasons to want intimacy and both characters can be seen as substituting their grief for their loved ones with it. AND both characters have displayed sexual attraction to each other before.

Its quite realistic that Garo decided to do stuff like this because the usual romances we see in anime are usually highly overblown "destined pairings" - rarely do we actually get nonchalant no-attachment-or-consequences sex.

Garo has always approached sex very liberally, so this is no different.


Word! I've always felt that there was some kind of tension between Ema and Leon.

That being said I am rather surprised it actually happened! 5/5!

Also I loved the aerial battle, felt like something out of Devi May Cry :D
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Lyrisia said:
Poor guy :(

And the hell?! What was with that ending scene... What about Lara... she just died :(


That is exactly why. Because she just died. Why do people not get this shit? The guy is hurt and need comfort, the same goes with Emma that was "celebrating" by getting her self half drunk trying to forget she just killed her husband. They found comfort at each other.
Sometimes is not about some big romance or love story, sometimes is just about feelings the others warmth.

CookingPriest said:
OH lawd, all the poor otaku and and their rage over sexual intimacy. Not "pure" enough for you? Did they have to hold hands longer? Not enough virgins in the pairing? Deal With it.

Both Ema and Leon lost their love interests and are dealing with grief. The episode actually foreshadows it as you can very clearly see Leon have very different reactions to Ema's behavior through episode than usual - his reactions to her flirting and teasing are very different because he still lacks clear emotional stability in regards of losing someone he was so close to AND because he has matured(and Ema did hint before at possibility of something more between them once he stops being a kid/teen).

The Ending is pretty much grief sex it seems - both of them lost someone they care about and this is the way they deal with it.

Both characters have reasons to want intimacy and both characters can be seen as substituting their grief for their loved ones with it. AND both characters have displayed sexual attraction to each other before.

Its quite realistic that Garo decided to do stuff like this because the usual romances we see in anime are usually highly overblown "destined pairings" - rarely do we actually get nonchalant no-attachment-or-consequences sex.

Garo has always approached sex very liberally, so this is no different.


Exactly. That is why it feels "out of place" to all this silly teenagers here on Mal that all they know about intimacy is school confession bullshit. Also you have to laugh at their OMG the have age difference! Damn! close minded as fuck.

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Look at this badass over here. People aren't criticizing Garo because they hooked up or because they weren't "pure" or what not. That's just your arrogance talking.

The way Garo has paced out its story this cour made what should've been a climactic moment between these two characters fall flat. German and Ximena's one night stand was arguably built up and executed better than Leon x Ema


Actually you just admitted that you fall exactly into that "not holding hand together enough" bullshit category by wanting your little built-up. Herman and Ximera was built-up because it wasn't a one night thing at all and it was a relationship. If Herman finishes what he is doing and ever decides to stay put he will probably go to her.
Of course Ema and Leon hadn't got a built-up. They weren't fucking suppose to. Is that really so hard to get? Their sex night didn't came out of some romance but out from desperation of loss. You don't have built-up for that shit. They are just licking each others wounds.
The fact that you think all sexual shit must happen with some silly romance built-ups simply shows how immature and non-understanding you are.

Also sorry to say it but you kids with your little i-phones and over-privileged life can't possibly understand this people living in a completely different era and on the edge of death fighting with horrifying beings. That is also why is silly when people criticize Herman for his way of life.


I would have to agree with all you said here. This is a fine display of grief sex and how sometimes people have sex for comfort etc not just because of love. They've both lost someone and it hurts so it's nice to find some comfert in someone that understands how that feels.
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Apr 1, 2015 10:42 AM

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Very cool hearing about ema's backstory. Her husband is pretty damn badass too. Looking forward to seeing more of Luciano!
Apr 5, 2015 5:05 PM

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I would never have thought that Leon and Ema would end up in bed together. I was sure it would be German and Ema.

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Apr 20, 2015 1:14 PM
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Haha as I expected from the start Leon and Emma , I hope she stays always drunk ;)
As some wise anime character said : the more tsun tsun is now the more dere dere she will be later .
I'm still sad about Lara but that doesn't change the fact that I've rooted 1st for Leon and Emma ...
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OH lawd, all the poor otaku and and their rage over sexual intimacy. Not "pure" enough for you? Did they have to hold hands longer? Not enough virgins in the pairing? Deal With it.

Both Ema and Leon lost their love interests and are dealing with grief. The episode actually foreshadows it as you can very clearly see Leon have very different reactions to Ema's behavior through episode than usual - his reactions to her flirting and teasing are very different because he still lacks clear emotional stability in regards of losing someone he was so close to AND because he has matured(and Ema did hint before at possibility of something more between them once he stops being a kid/teen).

The Ending is pretty much grief sex it seems - both of them lost someone they care about and this is the way they deal with it.

Both characters have reasons to want intimacy and both characters can be seen as substituting their grief for their loved ones with it. AND both characters have displayed sexual attraction to each other before.

Its quite realistic that Garo decided to do stuff like this because the usual romances we see in anime are usually highly overblown "destined pairings" - rarely do we actually get nonchalant no-attachment-or-consequences sex.

Garo has always approached sex very liberally, so this is no different.


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Lol Leon
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Poor guy :(

And the hell?! What was with that ending scene... What about Lara... she just died :(


That is exactly why. Because she just died. Why do people not get this shit? The guy is hurt and need comfort, the same goes with Emma that was "celebrating" by getting her self half drunk trying to forget she just killed her husband. They found comfort at each other.
Sometimes is not about some big romance or love story, sometimes is just about feelings the others warmth.

CookingPriest said:
OH lawd, all the poor otaku and and their rage over sexual intimacy. Not "pure" enough for you? Did they have to hold hands longer? Not enough virgins in the pairing? Deal With it.

Both Ema and Leon lost their love interests and are dealing with grief. The episode actually foreshadows it as you can very clearly see Leon have very different reactions to Ema's behavior through episode than usual - his reactions to her flirting and teasing are very different because he still lacks clear emotional stability in regards of losing someone he was so close to AND because he has matured(and Ema did hint before at possibility of something more between them once he stops being a kid/teen).

The Ending is pretty much grief sex it seems - both of them lost someone they care about and this is the way they deal with it.

Both characters have reasons to want intimacy and both characters can be seen as substituting their grief for their loved ones with it. AND both characters have displayed sexual attraction to each other before.

Its quite realistic that Garo decided to do stuff like this because the usual romances we see in anime are usually highly overblown "destined pairings" - rarely do we actually get nonchalant no-attachment-or-consequences sex.

Garo has always approached sex very liberally, so this is no different.


Exactly. That is why it feels "out of place" to all this silly teenagers here on Mal that all they know about intimacy is school confession bullshit. Also you have to laugh at their OMG the have age difference! Damn! close minded as fuck.

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Look at this badass over here. People aren't criticizing Garo because they hooked up or because they weren't "pure" or what not. That's just your arrogance talking.

The way Garo has paced out its story this cour made what should've been a climactic moment between these two characters fall flat. German and Ximena's one night stand was arguably built up and executed better than Leon x Ema


Actually you just admitted that you fall exactly into that "not holding hand together enough" bullshit category by wanting your little built-up. Herman and Ximera was built-up because it wasn't a one night thing at all and it was a relationship. If Herman finishes what he is doing and ever decides to stay put he will probably go to her.
Of course Ema and Leon hadn't got a built-up. They weren't fucking suppose to. Is that really so hard to get? Their sex night didn't came out of some romance but out from desperation of loss. You don't have built-up for that shit. They are just licking each others wounds.
The fact that you think all sexual shit must happen with some silly romance built-ups simply shows how immature and non-understanding you are.

Also sorry to say it but you kids with your little i-phones and over-privileged life can't possibly understand this people living in a completely different era and on the edge of death fighting with horrifying beings. That is also why is silly when people criticize Herman for his way of life.

+1 for all of this. Comments like "OMG Lara died just 2 eps ago, how could he?!" are so lame I don't even.
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So fuck Lara, am I right? Bullshit drunk romance that will probably only last for that one scene.
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I like the idea of Ema searching for her Horror-ified husband to kill him herself, so I can't help but feel disappointed by how rushed it ended being. It doesn't really help that the second cour up until that point had been almost entirely dedicated to Leon coming to terms with himself and reclaiming his status as a Makai Knight: it makes the sudden transition to Ema's backstory feel all the clumsier and lacking in impact. Don't get me wrong, I thought this was a good episode (and boy, that aerial fight scene makes me wish MAPPA made a Touhou anime already), but I believe that with better foreshadowing during the first cour and one or two additional episodes to properly expand on and conclude Ema's arc, it could've been a great one.

I wish Lara would've been Leon's first (and he probably wishes the same), but the writers have decided to be cruel and take her away from him before their romance could even fully bloom. As for Ema, she finally just murdered the man she loves the most: as others have aptly pointed out, they've both lost the people they hold dearest, and both can understand and relate to the other's pain. No wonder they would try and find comfort in whatever means they can, and sex (just like Emma's abuse of alcohol) simply happens to be one of those means. There's no love here, just a man a woman licking each other's wounds.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Ema is going to die?
Damn. She got some big oppai.
Damn! Dat split!
Dat trade.
Her husband?
WTF! 3 nipples on each boob?
He banged Ema.
Glad those 3 assholes died.
Dat aerial battle.
Luciano saved her.
Dat hair.
Leon saved her.
Dat kiss!
Leon's on top.

I knew this was going to happen the moment Ema made fun of Leon still being a virgin. Also, she kept calling him boy.
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Hm, even though was bit rush her background, iliked this episode, specially the scene before leon save her
omg haha did baby leon became a man :))?:p
hm well i see many complain was to fast considering lara barely died, but the time frame in anime wasn't told...could had been a week, a month...more
both were in pain and both needed confort...so ya
doubt will be something more between them
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he doesn't take after hes father, it doesn't mean he became like him lol

he did it cause he has feelings for her & she for him, but cause of the hard times they are facing all the emotions boiled over & it lead to that :)
despite that they have their old flames still in their hearts they also have feelings for each-other for some time already
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Luciano was too good of a person, to have focused too much on saving other people that he couldn't save himself

Ma man Leon getting intimate with best girl

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This series sure loves sex! I didn't expect Ema and Leon to sleep together, talk about some unexpected development.

Luciano backstory was actually a hogwash for me.
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that ending actually happened?! ok then. i don't even...

i think it's pretty cool that she vowed to put her husband to rest and that she finally was able to do so. but i'm glad this didn't go on for several episodes
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