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Dec 12, 2013 8:31 AM
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I kinda like the relationship between Hozuki and Galileo this episode. They do share some common similarities.

And oop their invention worked:
http://i.imgur.com/k5YpDLi.png

Kinda reminds me of the Wright Brothers when they flew their aircraft for the first time in history at Kitty Hawk, North Carlina.

Dec 12, 2013 12:17 PM
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So the love letter was directed to Hozuki! Dat incest XD

Well, poor Hozuki. She didn't have a single second to take a breath. She came back to the present and boom explosions everywhere. And now they're surrounded.

Well one more ep left. I have no idea what will happen nxt and how this will conclude in that little time??
Dec 12, 2013 12:27 PM
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For some reason I really wished they wouldn't put even a hint of romance between Galileo and Hozuki, but it happened anyways. I guess it's nice to know that the letter was to Hozuki though. And the sisters are saved by Cicinho, nice.
Dec 12, 2013 12:28 PM
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Those nice moments from Galileo and Hozuki. Guess we know who that love letter was for. Just like that, Hozuki goes back to the present and find themselves in a pinch.
Dec 12, 2013 12:28 PM
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I love how they included a Cicinho x Hazuki moment even though the scene was like 3 seconds long 8D <33
Dec 12, 2013 12:49 PM
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I really do hope that the final episode has some sort of meaningful resolution. I'm not really sure how they can resolve everything in one episode though, and if they can't and make a second cour then I see no reason why they made this first season so rushed.

I also fail to see the point in her going back in time. I'm sure it will reveal some in the finale, but we don't even know yet how or where she got that pendant/where it came from... or even what it does exactly. It seems odd if not only does it inexplicably have unlimited energy, but it can cause her to time travel, I know there was foreshadowing but it still has no logic behind it thus far. Obviously we don't know much about time travel, and it's sci-fi, but it seems that we're expected to just accept everything as we would everyday things. If it's really the end then this series has been nothing but a suspension of disbelief, so far at least... I won't judge it until the final episode actually concludes, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see how this ends.
Dec 12, 2013 12:52 PM
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This series has degraded to a point where this episode made me feel dirty.
Dec 12, 2013 12:56 PM
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I can't see any other way the fuel shortage problem will be solved in one epsiode other than 'Galileo did it!'. The time traveling did have its use and was probably foreshadowed but I still dislike how it came out of nowhere.
Dec 12, 2013 1:09 PM
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So the letters were all to Hozuki. Nice! Only one episode left though..going to be hard to finish it off really good considering where they're at right now and being able to explain everything without that rush feeling. Either way, can't wait for next Thursday!
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I like the peaceful moments with Galileo, but all good things must come to an end.

If Hazuki figured out about Galileo's feelings, why didn't she tell him an answer to his future love letter or her feelings about him instead of vague hints?
I don't think it is incest since she is his descendent, so that makes them too distant to make it incest, right? Well, I personally think it's fine.

However, either Galileo or Hazuki should be more direct to there feelings. Should take notes from the captain of the Pirates (kinda of forgot his name, but love his personality)
Dec 12, 2013 2:20 PM

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Barion-Zara said:
So the love letter was directed to Hozuki! Dat incest XD
Well, technicaly it would be ok, since there is a giant generation gap. Her genetic code should be vastly different from him.
Dec 12, 2013 3:06 PM
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Frontalbrise said:
Barion-Zara said:
So the love letter was directed to Hozuki! Dat incest XD
Well, technicaly it would be ok, since there is a giant generation gap. Her genetic code should be vastly different from him.
Still creepy on a conceptual level.

Well, at least she didn't stay to give birth to her own great(x2˄5)grandfather.
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Frontalbrise said:
Barion-Zara said:
So the love letter was directed to Hozuki! Dat incest XD
Well, technicaly it would be ok, since there is a giant generation gap. Her genetic code should be vastly different from him.


Well, in real life that would be the case, but in the anime Galileo had the some of the same tendency's as one of Hozuki's sisters. Also Galileo and Hozuki had the exact same eye color and they slightly resemble, which is telling me anime wise the blood between them is pretty strong.
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.....oh
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jayvon said:
Frontalbrise said:
Barion-Zara said:
So the love letter was directed to Hozuki! Dat incest XD
Well, technicaly it would be ok, since there is a giant generation gap. Her genetic code should be vastly different from him.


Well, in real life that would be the case, but in the anime Galileo had the some of the same tendency's as one of Hozuki's sisters. Also Galileo and Hozuki had the exact same eye color and they slightly resemble, which is telling me anime wise the blood between them is pretty strong.


hmm...but what about hozuki's dad...he looked very very different yet he shares 50% of her genes...technically he should be closer related but he is totally different, which means imo that its just dominant traits that show up and not full on genetic similarities.



also in before, galieo comes outta nowhere to save the day, in some time travel machine and solved world energy crisis then takes hozuki away.
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Not sure whether I should be disgusted by the incest in this episode or not. Ah, there's such a huge difference in blood that I can let it slide. I'm still gonna get a weird feeling whenever they're referred to 'descendants of Galileo' now though.
Dec 12, 2013 4:28 PM

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Damn based Galileo was flying around before it was cool.

Looks like the sisters got captured, damn Roberto.
Dec 12, 2013 6:24 PM

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That relationship is sooo wrong lol XD

Would be epic and messed up if hozuki's grandma(galileo's wife) is actually her lol (ofc im just joking XD)

Welp nxt week epi. is the last t.t

Dec 12, 2013 6:59 PM

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GALILEI DONNA : INCEST THROUGHOUT CENTURIES A tale of Incest by noitaminA
jkjkjk.

The relationship is so fucking wrong , even Hozuki knows it but she can't bring herself to tell Galileo that she's actually his great great granddaughter. Asdfghjklmn.

That Cicinho x Bambina was nice although it was short. An episode left , what are they going to do ? .______.

5/5 for this mindfucking shit.

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This series has degraded to a point where this episode made me feel dirty.


EXACTLY ^
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Dec 12, 2013 7:00 PM
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Are we absolutely sure this show is 11 episodes?

Wow, I am completely lost, and not in a good way. How the hell are they going to cover everything they need to cover in 20 minutes? They have to have some OVA's lined up to continue the story.

What was the whole bit about heliocentricism? This Galileo says that the world believes in geocentrism, but he believes that the earth goes around the sun. This is fine, but in the first two episodes the exact opposite was said, and even this episode Houzaki shifted a little as if she was about to correct him, but was afraid to. So what is up with that (8 episodes with nary a word, and then complete change - alternative world as opposed to the past).

Also they made a point of showing the night time sky as being normal, which it isn't in Houzaki's world (and the cold doesn't explain it, they have cloudless days, just cloudy nights).

We know this is why Houzaki went back in time, meeting Galileo has given Houzaki courage to state her opinions, and I have a feeling not only does she have some revolutionary ideas, but some revolutionary inventions up her sleeve, but how are they going to show this without making everyone scream "deus ex". I have no idea.

This show is reminding me more and more of Suisei. Tons of potential, tons of hints of great ideas dropped, but nothing to tie them together, and no logical conclusion. Just a bunch of random crap thrown together. I fear the same for this show. I will watch hoping otherwise, but just can't see how they can pull everything together.
Dec 12, 2013 7:31 PM

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He treasured that time for the rest of his life :)

I'm really curious how the last episode will go I just can't see it finished in one more episode :/
Dec 12, 2013 7:42 PM

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How did the ship manage to just fly at the end when it had no fuel left last episode?
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I can't help but cheer when it was confirmed Galileo's love letters was for Hocchibi. He really cherished the time they were together. So sweet T____T

I gotta admit though, it was a bit weird. It's weird not because it's incest but because of the concept of ancestor-descendant existing in different timelines. It's stupid to call it incest since it's not like they're closely related (HUGE generation gap).

Final episode next week.I doubt things are going to get resolved :\
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Dec 12, 2013 7:58 PM
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How did the ship manage to just fly at the end when it had no fuel left last episode?
It wasn't depleted but instead removed and hidden (was it in the kitchen?).

Dunno what type of fuel it is (probably the scarce energy source controlled by the bad guys), but that's what they said... I think.
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Dec 12, 2013 7:59 PM
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How did the ship manage to just fly at the end when it had no fuel left last episode?


Because they were never out of fuel, Anna doesn't know what is really powering this ship. Houzaki just played along, having known since episode 3 that Anna was spying on them and working for someone.

That Houzaki has known a lot more than she has let on has been clear for a long while, but as I said last week this show has gone out of its way to make it hard to notice all these things (they show or say something, then drop it for 5-8 episodes). As Galileo said this episode about himself, he had never met anyone who understood anything he said, so he had given up even trying to explain stuff to people. That is Houzaki in a nut shell. She has always had the potential to do things, but no one would listen, no one cared, no one even attempted to understand her so she withdrew into herself and kept it secret; she was even this way with Galileo (notice that she was about to correct him when he was talking about Geocentrism, but couldn't speak up). But now Houzaki knows what she has to do and she is going to do it.
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aisusenpai said:
How did the ship manage to just fly at the end when it had no fuel left last episode?


Because they were never out of fuel, Anna doesn't know what is really powering this ship. Houzaki just played along.
Ok, now I'm really doubting my memory...
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Ajunky said:
Takuan_Soho said:
aisusenpai said:
How did the ship manage to just fly at the end when it had no fuel left last episode?


Because they were never out of fuel, Anna doesn't know what is really powering this ship. Houzaki just played along.
Ok, now I'm really doubting my memory...


Seconded...
Dec 12, 2013 8:36 PM
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Anna said she didn't actually dump the fuel and that it's in the storage or something. They probably grabbed that before flying.
Dec 12, 2013 8:41 PM
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Ok, now I'm really doubting my memory...


Seconded...


It isn't like this show came out and says it, this is what I mean by it being too subtle.

But as for Houzaki knowing that Anna was spying on them, it was actually episode 4, around the 5:45 mark, when the sisters were talking to the medical device inventor, Anna started snooping around the ship and was recorded by the ship's AI. They never mentioned it since then, but it is obvious that the AI would have informed Houzaki (why have a security mode if you never checked it), but she never brought it up. However last episode she was about to confront Anna (you can tell this mostly by facial expressions), but they were interrupted before talking.

That Houzaki knew a lot more is another thing shown, again mostly in glances. In the young boy episode, the two sisters wondered where they were getting all the fuel from to power the ship. In several episodes, when two characters were wondering about things, Houzaki would ignore the conversation, even though it should have been something she would have wanted to talk about (watch the scene where Anna gives Houzaki a clue about music (yet another thing they haven't touched upon since then). That she could read the sketches she never told anyone, when they discovered the telescope, she gave up trying to figure out why it was there far too easily (so easily that Anna was suspicious). This show has been so damn hint heavy that it has been driving me crazy that they never explain it. Either this last episode is going to be damn incredible or this show will be an incredible disappointment.
Dec 12, 2013 10:42 PM
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*BANGS HEAD ON TABLE*

NoitaminA, don't DO this to me! I like my wincest anime but this is...this is just so wrong on so many levels but it's SO DARN RIGGHHHHHT! I SHIP IT! YES, I SHIP IT! I'm sick, I know!

Darn, darn, darn, why can't they be together? T^T
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I didn't expect they would really use the time travel for this anime. Oh well. I wonder if everything will be solved by the end?
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Dec 13, 2013 12:35 AM

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Well, that was sweet..
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i just realised that almost every character in this show had nothing to do with anything at all
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So the love of Galileo's life is none other than Hozuki. It's not incest, but it's still funny. It's not because they're only distantly related (500+ years or so) but considering that he only knew Hozuki as a REALLY young teenage girl. LOL
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Hozuki and Galileo I love their relationship ... the love letter was fr hozuki :") I wish if he could meet her again somehow
Only 1 episode to go!!

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Dec 13, 2013 5:53 AM
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So Galileo fell in love with Hozuki.

One more episode. Let's see how the story ends.
Dec 13, 2013 6:16 AM
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So the love of Galileo's life is none other than Hozuki. It's not incest, but it's still funny. It's not because they're only distantly related (500+ years or so) but considering that he only knew Hozuki as a REALLY young teenage girl. LOL


You know, it is really sad that most people here are so obsessed with sex that they still haven't realized that there are actually other forms of love.

Gallileo loves Houzaki as an intellectual soul mate, not necessarily as someone he wants to screw; all his life he had been mocked, ignored, hated for being intellectually different from other people, and for the first time in his life he actually met some one who appreciates him for who he is, who mutually shares the love of exploration into the unknown, someone who truly gets him. Houzaki feels the same way, that this is not sexual is clear back in Episode 5 when she met another person who loved to explore. Houzaki loved him too, but she loved him in a way where she wanted him to be happy with the girl he in turned loved, and she did her best to encourage their love.

This isn't particularly addressed to the person I am posting to, but to all the "shippers" and people complaining about "incest". Grow up. I mean seriously. Nothing wrong with enjoying the shipping when it occurs in animation (which is plenty enough), but stop directed towards every single thing you see.
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Honestly I don't see the incest issue. Their blood should be so vastly different it'd be hard to detect without some serious analysis... being her distant ancestor doesn't make them related like that. Just thought I'd point out too, that this is a Japanese series, and in Japan if you're cousins it's not considered incest.

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Well, in real life that would be the case, but in the anime Galileo had the some of the same tendency's as one of Hozuki's sisters. Also Galileo and Hozuki had the exact same eye color and they slightly resemble, which is telling me anime wise the blood between them is pretty strong.
That may be true, but there's not exactly a ton of eye colors, and dominant traits will almost always be passed on. I'm pretty sure tons of my ancient ancestors had hazel eyes like myself. As far as personality traits go, Hozuki has been researching Galileo all her life, so if anything she built her tendencies around him.

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I agree with this as well, I don't really understand people jumping on the "incest" wagon, when there really wasn't even the slightest hint of that kind of love. He merely said that she was someone he could open up to.
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That Hozuki x Galileo ship.
They are....how many years apart?^^
Dec 13, 2013 7:31 AM

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Was Galileo having feelings for his great great great great great great great great Grandaughter?
Dec 13, 2013 7:38 AM

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I wasn't sure how to rate this show, but now I give it a 4, it's crap.
Dec 13, 2013 8:48 AM

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I felt weird watching this. Were they confessing their love to each other or something?

Found the episode a bit redundant. Too much of the bonding but plot did not progress that much. I wonder how they will wrap things up in the last episode.

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Was Galileo having feelings for his great great great great great great great great Grandaughter?

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For some reason I really wished they wouldn't put even a hint of romance between Galileo and Hozuki, but it happened anyways.


Yeah, not a fan of that either. The fact I wasn't a fan of the sudden time travel twist doesn't help as well because far as I can tell (outside of the love letter), that aspect wasn't foreshadowed. It came off as psuedo-science to me in the end even though this is sci-fi...

I'm just glad there's one more episode, I've just been disappointed by this anime that I want to see it end. Perhaps it wasn't for the best it was 11 episodes long, but whether that would've helped the story is hard to say.
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I am confused
Dec 13, 2013 5:13 PM

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Kyousuke from Oreimo would say "incest ftw" XD
Dec 13, 2013 6:05 PM

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aaaaand, they just went full retard on this show


bonus round:
"there are theories that the earth is round"
NO SHIT SHERLOCK, is not like Magellan's expedition did finish the round trip like 40 years before Galileo was even born... or that Colombus found America by chance even earlier
whoever wrote that particular line deserves to be banned from any pen, pencil, crayon, text processor, etc. for life
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Tsk.. the only problem that I noticed here is that Hozuki didn't tell Galileo that she was his descendant >< I've been waiting for it the whole time....... Tsk. Poor Galileo... What's your problem Hozuki? that you can't even tell Galileo about it..
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so basically, the mastery of atmospheric flight that modern people showed in this setting is because Galileo discovered it earlier in their universe.. he'd only be stuck to astronomy and physics later had his great^x granddaughter not time traveled back to inspire him and correct his miscalculations during his youth..

also, it's because many people associate love with sex first that this whole incest creepiness you keep feeling kicked in.. can't you guys give Galileo some slack because his admiration for Houzuki as a person and the positive effects of him being inspired are the important points in his love? that's pure rabu, and the fact that he wasn't given a chance to escalate that further by him and her separating kept it that way..
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I am confused


So basically, the consequences happened before the causes because of time travel (I actually hate when stories use this excuse to solve all the mystery but whatever).

Galilei found a way to solve the energy problem and left everything for her to find in the future , by following all the clues and goldfish.

The love letter were for her

That's how I understood it.
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For some reason I really wished they wouldn't put even a hint of romance between Galileo and Hozuki, but it happened anyways.


Yeah, not a fan of that either. The fact I wasn't a fan of the sudden time travel twist doesn't help as well because far as I can tell (outside of the love letter), that aspect wasn't foreshadowed. It came off as psuedo-science to me in the end even though this is sci-fi...

I'm just glad there's one more episode, I've just been disappointed by this anime that I want to see it end. Perhaps it wasn't for the best it was 11 episodes long, but whether that would've helped the story is hard to say.

Fully agreed.
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