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Oct 21, 2012 1:25 AM
#1
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Alibaba starts the action this episode. Holy shit though! Morgania with that falcon punch? I'm disappoint. I hope Morgania can make up her damn mind soon and be free. Well, at least Aladdin is there. Heh, two genies this episode and it's nice to see Judal's brief appearance. He kinda looks like Gray from Fairy Tail for some reason to me. |
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Oct 21, 2012 6:34 AM
#2
Judaal appears? My baby Kimura Ryohei is voicing him! To think he would appear so early! I haven't read the manga but I know enough to know that Juudal is popular! |
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Oct 21, 2012 6:55 AM
#3
I didn't know that all Djinn are blue in color? Well, seeing how both Amon and Ugo are blue. Guess all Djinn are blue then. A great episode. Glad to see Judal, Kimura Ryohei's voicing suit him really well. Please don't mind me comparing with manga. Being Magi manga Fan, I can't help but comparing. The way they portray the face off between Alibaba and Jamil isn't as good as in manga. Maybe it's just me but Jamil look more pitiful and scared while Alibaba got the look of pitying him and proud. Making it look like Alibaba is just playing with him, totally overpowered him and so, Jamil knows that he is no match for Alibaba at all . But in anime, it looks more like Jamil give up after dropping his sword. Well in any case, not as impressive. |
Oct 21, 2012 9:11 AM
#4
Oct 21, 2012 11:09 AM
#5
LOL Jamil is owned pretty badly. Icebreaker93 said: Great episode but its fast paced for 3 ep they covered 17-18 chapters. Great IMO. Fast and complete. With this pace I think we'll reach Pirate Arc their separation to get stronger hokaru said: I didn't know that all Djinn are blue in color? Well, seeing how both Amon and Ugo are blue. Guess all Djinn are blue then. A great episode. Glad to see Judal, Kimura Ryohei's voicing suit him really well. Please don't mind me comparing with manga. Being Magi manga Fan, I can't help but comparing. The way they portray the face off between Alibaba and Jamil isn't as good as in manga. Maybe it's just me but Jamil look more pitiful and scared while Alibaba got the look of pitying him and proud. Making it look like Alibaba is just playing with him, totally overpowered him and so, Jamil knows that he is no match for Alibaba at all . But in anime, it looks more like Jamil give up after dropping his sword. Well in any case, not as impressive. Yes I thought Amon will at least be Light Yellow or Red. They made him blue.... |
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Oct 21, 2012 3:14 PM
#6
@wishbook Ya....no way they will squeeze that much in, no way at all, if anything this ends with the Balbadd arc, 70+ chapters is more than enough for 25 episodes, just look at Kuroko it did exactly the same thing. |
Oct 21, 2012 3:51 PM
#7
if this may become a long running anime then why are they rushing this? |
Oct 21, 2012 4:18 PM
#8
Shaduge said: if this may become a long running anime then why are they rushing this? Because they don't want to mess up like almost every other Shounen and give excessive boring filler, its not that hard to understand. Also if they are set for 25 episodes to test sales than its best to capture the main points in these early arcs while giving full detail to the Balbadd arc. |
Oct 21, 2012 5:33 PM
#9
Judal Appears!! Can't wait for next arc. |
Oct 21, 2012 5:35 PM
#10
Oct 21, 2012 5:47 PM
#11
I feel like this episode was really... jumpy. It does give off the impression that they're trying to rush it. Oh well, this is a good watch. Aladdin is a boss. |
Oct 21, 2012 5:51 PM
#12
EstelleBright said: More fujoshi food after Kuroko ended. haha yup :) I really enjoyed the episode. My memory of the manga isn't too good but I think it was handled pretty well. There were some differences though obviously. And Judal appeared! And I can't wait until Sinbad's debut. I wish this could be a long running anime, but I doubt that would happen. I hope that the Balbadd arc stays faithful to the manga as much as possible though. |
Oct 21, 2012 6:37 PM
#13
Oct 21, 2012 6:43 PM
#14
liked the episode alot . i really wanna see whats the deal about morgiana. she is an interesting character and i wanna see how she develops. |
Oct 21, 2012 7:05 PM
#15
Oh oh, I like Judal make-up XD He looks a sadist, perfect for me, a inner maso. XD I wonder how Ali baba's knife will be after the jinni "entered" in it. :O |
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Oct 21, 2012 7:06 PM
#16
Disappointed they didn't show Alibaba's past though, when the Sharif was getting owned. Other than that, awesome episode! :D |
Oct 21, 2012 7:11 PM
#17
An alright episode. Pacing felt really quick but still. |
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Oct 21, 2012 7:19 PM
#18
Awesome episode. Aladdin using the staff. It also finally introduced the main antagonist. Cant wait for more. |
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Oct 21, 2012 7:30 PM
#19
Overall decently alright episode, a bit rushed. Though I liked this one slightly more than the previous two episodes. Aladdin's voice still sounds feminine, though there were few moments where his voice sounded just right. Hope this happens more often in the later episodes. Like some of you guys said, I wasn't expecting Amon to be...blue. I was imagining him as either orange or yellow. To me, the scene with Goltas breaking Mor's chains could have felt more dramatic and significant like in the manga, but I think they did it alright. I also wish they expanded more on Alibaba's fight with Jamil than they did here. Or at least to show how awesome Alibaba's sword play is :) Huge highlight for me was actually Judal's first appearance. Even though he only talked briefly, his voicing was fabulous! Despite not being a Judal fan, I'm actually quite excited to see his next appearance. 3.5/5 Can't wait to see Hakuei! |
Oct 21, 2012 7:33 PM
#20
Oct 21, 2012 7:34 PM
#21
EstelleBright said: More fujoshi food after Kuroko ended. HERP DERP HERP. ...and so crazy Jamil is now dead. Time to run around freely Morgiana. :) |
Oct 21, 2012 7:42 PM
#22
So happy Judal made his appearance, even briefly. I had a pretty strong feeling that they were going to keep his debut the same as the manga. Loved Ryohei Kimura's voicing for him. <3 Aside from that, really great episode. Happily and impatiently lol looking forward to episode four~ |
Oct 21, 2012 7:42 PM
#23
Let the adventure begin... Judging from the ED... They'll at least go China and Mongolia, Japan is probably a Mandatory stop as well. Oh yeah... Africa. Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I gathered(Lions), I think that's where Morgiana is from... I think the 2 will want to take her home one day. Hmmm... They're kinda too pale for Middle Eastern/Africans... Ah wells, makes it easier for overseas company if they ever decide to localize the show, save them the trouble of repainting their black skin blue. /sarcasm. EDIT: Morgiana is cute! |
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Oct 21, 2012 7:43 PM
#24
It's scary how fast they're getting through material. It's probably for the best this way, but I don't want this show to end xD |
Oct 21, 2012 8:25 PM
#25
Another great episode.I wanted to throw away my monitor from window because of Jamil though.He is so fking annoying...how can he treat people like that and be proud of it.Anyway, new character appears and interrupts most interesting conversation of this episode *facedesk*. 5/5 cant wait to see some Morgiana arc or at least episode. |
Oct 21, 2012 8:29 PM
#26
Loved it. I can't blame the producers for rushing the episode, since they have so much to try to fit in and have it make sense at the same time for just 13 episodes. The arcs later on are a lot more important than the ones they're doing now. But I'm wondering how they will introduce Hakuryuu |
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Oct 21, 2012 8:34 PM
#27
dashiawia said: Good episode, glad to see that arrogant tool put in his place, he had it coming. I hope to see Morgiana develop more, her character is pretty interesting. Also, how did Alibaba and Aladdin get separated at the end? I think I missed something... The same thing happened in the manga. If I remember correctly, it didn't explain it either. But you'll see what happens in the next episode! |
Oct 21, 2012 8:37 PM
#28
This episode had a big plot hole but over all I enjoyed it. Jamil was a prick and he got what he deserved. I didn't like how Alladin conveniently appeared out of nowhere with the magic staff. They didn't even know what to look for when they first went into the treasure room full of stuff. I'm supposed to believe that Alladin wakes up after being knocked out and suddenly finds that staff in a room full of stuff in time to save his friend. All of this without showing us how he even found it in the first place - just believe that he found it right away because he's the chosen one. Shyolk said: Ugh! Too big of a plot hole to suspend belief. I can only hope that there aren't more of these in the coming episodes.dashiawia said: Good episode, glad to see that arrogant tool put in his place, he had it coming. I hope to see Morgiana develop more, her character is pretty interesting. Also, how did Alibaba and Aladdin get separated at the end? I think I missed something... The same thing happened in the manga. If I remember correctly, it didn't explain it either. But you'll see what happens in the next episode! On a side note, Kaori Ishihara has really improved in sounding like a boy. I remember in the first episode that she still sounded really feminine, but now she's sounding more and more like Alladin. |
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Oct 21, 2012 8:45 PM
#29
I feel like I want to joke that Jamil had just met a monster or a Witch... And god IDK but I want to punch him so much. But anyway, for a first-timer discovering the series, the action scenes are done well and Aladdin and his "magic". What a cute mahou shounen~ P.S. i like Morigana. Very strong, it's scary. But I am like "Yay!" when she is finally free at last... Or so I hope. She would make a great addition to their "adventures". |
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Oct 21, 2012 8:53 PM
#30
Shyolk said: But I'm wondering how they will introduce Hakuryuu I bet they are going to keep the scene from chapter 25 with Judal talking about how he isn't fond of the King and prefers Hakuryuu. He probably won't be introduced for long and will only have a few lines, not pertaining any real importance during this arc. But that's just my speculation. |
Oct 21, 2012 8:54 PM
#31
Lol. Hated Jamil when I read the manga and I definitely hate him now. Pretty good episode but a little bit rushed. |
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Oct 21, 2012 9:02 PM
#32
Spectacular episode! Pretty damn exciting when they got to the end and Morgiana was freed. Great use of the soundtrack in this episode, really brought out the most from the moment. ^^ AiCon said: This episode had a big plot hole but over all I enjoyed it. I wouldn't call it a big plot hole, but I would say it stands out quite a bit. Considering this is a fantasy series I can easily give them some leeway for this kind of thing, but it a bit problematic if you're the type to get bothered by it. The only way I would ever consider something a big plot hole is if it was a missed detail involved with the story and not a small, unexplainable event like this. Edit: After reading the later posts, it has come to my attention that this hole will be explained later on. Damn you manga readers, stop trying to mislead me. >.< |
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Oct 21, 2012 9:02 PM
#33
Shyolk said: dashiawia said: Good episode, glad to see that arrogant tool put in his place, he had it coming. I hope to see Morgiana develop more, her character is pretty interesting. Also, how did Alibaba and Aladdin get separated at the end? I think I missed something... The same thing happened in the manga. If I remember correctly, it didn't explain it either. But you'll see what happens in the next episode! It's never explained. It was just Amon's magic, the beam of light they were traveling in, that made them land randomly when they got back to the surface. |
Oct 21, 2012 9:11 PM
#34
kenshin_sama said: I just thought that Alladin finding that staff was just too convenient. Still, you have to admit that all the characters appearing in different places without explanation is a bit of a plot hole.Spectacular episode! Pretty damn exciting when they got to the end and Morgiana was freed. Great use of the soundtrack in this episode, really brought out the most from the moment. ^^ AiCon said: This episode had a big plot hole but over all I enjoyed it. I wouldn't call it a big plot hole, but I would say it stands out quite a bit. Considering this is a fantasy series I can easily give them some leeway for this kind of thing, but it a bit problematic if you're the type to get bothered by it. The only way I would ever consider something a big plot hole is if it was a missed detail involved with the story and not a small, unexplainable event like this. Oh well. Still liked the episode because of the action. |
Oct 21, 2012 9:15 PM
#35
AiCon said: This episode had a big plot hole but over all I enjoyed it. Jamil was a prick and he got what he deserved. I didn't like how Alladin conveniently appeared out of nowhere with the magic staff. They didn't even know what to look for when they first went into the treasure room full of stuff. I'm supposed to believe that Alladin wakes up after being knocked out and suddenly finds that staff in a room full of stuff in time to save his friend. All of this without showing us how he even found it in the first place - just believe that he found it right away because he's the chosen one. Shyolk said: Ugh! Too big of a plot hole to suspend belief. I can only hope that there aren't more of these in the coming episodes.dashiawia said: Good episode, glad to see that arrogant tool put in his place, he had it coming. I hope to see Morgiana develop more, her character is pretty interesting. Also, how did Alibaba and Aladdin get separated at the end? I think I missed something... The same thing happened in the manga. If I remember correctly, it didn't explain it either. But you'll see what happens in the next episode! . Well, it's very safe to assume that the place he ended up at, after getting kicked by Morgiana, has that rod. I wouldn't call this a plot hole. About how did Alibaba and Aladdin got seperated, it's because when they exit the dungeon, all of them got sent to different places. Morgiana end up on outskirt of the city, Alibaba end up on the place the dungeon is (most likely because he is recognised as the dungeon capturer, so he alone end up there). And then Aladdin end up far away from them, well, stuffs about Rukh's guidance probably decided to send him there and meet the Baba and Hakuei. |
Oct 21, 2012 9:27 PM
#36
Alibaba is damn awesome. I'm interested to see what happens with Morgiana's character. That asshole got mad punked! "You don't seem all that great to me." Very enjoyable if nothing else. |
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Oct 21, 2012 9:36 PM
#37
This has been great until now. I love the characters! I especially want to know more about Morgiana... |
Oct 21, 2012 9:42 PM
#38
hokaru said: I could believe that the place he was kicked to had the rod. Question is: How did he know that the rod was it out of all the stuff it was mixed up in time to save Allibaba?AiCon said: This episode had a big plot hole but over all I enjoyed it. Jamil was a prick and he got what he deserved. I didn't like how Alladin conveniently appeared out of nowhere with the magic staff. They didn't even know what to look for when they first went into the treasure room full of stuff. I'm supposed to believe that Alladin wakes up after being knocked out and suddenly finds that staff in a room full of stuff in time to save his friend. All of this without showing us how he even found it in the first place - just believe that he found it right away because he's the chosen one. Shyolk said: Ugh! Too big of a plot hole to suspend belief. I can only hope that there aren't more of these in the coming episodes.dashiawia said: Good episode, glad to see that arrogant tool put in his place, he had it coming. I hope to see Morgiana develop more, her character is pretty interesting. Also, how did Alibaba and Aladdin get separated at the end? I think I missed something... The same thing happened in the manga. If I remember correctly, it didn't explain it either. But you'll see what happens in the next episode! . Well, it's very safe to assume that the place he ended up at, after getting kicked by Morgiana, has that rod. I wouldn't call this a plot hole. About how did Alibaba and Aladdin got seperated, it's because when they exit the dungeon, all of them got sent to different places. Morgiana end up on outskirt of the city, Alibaba end up on the place the dungeon is (most likely because he is recognised as the dungeon capturer, so he alone end up there). And then Aladdin end up far away from them, well, stuffs about Rukh's guidance probably decided to send him there and meet the Baba and Hakuei. Also, why were they separated? I could believe that it was the will of one of the genies, but apparently it was never explained in the manga either, so it's a plot hole. I'll just chalk it up to suspension of belief of the sake of the story and leave it at that. All that matters is that the show itself is good. |
Oct 21, 2012 10:00 PM
#39
InfiniteDestiny said: @wishbook Ya....no way they will squeeze that much in, no way at all, if anything this ends with the Balbadd arc, 70+ chapters is more than enough for 25 episodes, just look at Kuroko it did exactly the same thing. It's just a mathematical calculation. 18/3 = 6 chapters/eps. 6 x 25 = chapter 150. Once again, it's just a simple mathematical calculation. Although the pace could change anytime. AiCon said: hokaru said: I could believe that the place he was kicked to had the rod. Question is: How did he know that the rod was it out of all the stuff it was mixed up in time to save Allibaba?AiCon said: This episode had a big plot hole but over all I enjoyed it. Jamil was a prick and he got what he deserved. I didn't like how Alladin conveniently appeared out of nowhere with the magic staff. They didn't even know what to look for when they first went into the treasure room full of stuff. I'm supposed to believe that Alladin wakes up after being knocked out and suddenly finds that staff in a room full of stuff in time to save his friend. All of this without showing us how he even found it in the first place - just believe that he found it right away because he's the chosen one. Shyolk said: Ugh! Too big of a plot hole to suspend belief. I can only hope that there aren't more of these in the coming episodes.dashiawia said: Good episode, glad to see that arrogant tool put in his place, he had it coming. I hope to see Morgiana develop more, her character is pretty interesting. Also, how did Alibaba and Aladdin get separated at the end? I think I missed something... The same thing happened in the manga. If I remember correctly, it didn't explain it either. But you'll see what happens in the next episode! . Well, it's very safe to assume that the place he ended up at, after getting kicked by Morgiana, has that rod. I wouldn't call this a plot hole. About how did Alibaba and Aladdin got seperated, it's because when they exit the dungeon, all of them got sent to different places. Morgiana end up on outskirt of the city, Alibaba end up on the place the dungeon is (most likely because he is recognised as the dungeon capturer, so he alone end up there). And then Aladdin end up far away from them, well, stuffs about Rukh's guidance probably decided to send him there and meet the Baba and Hakuei. Also, why were they separated? I could believe that it was the will of one of the genies, but apparently it was never explained in the manga either, so it's a plot hole. I'll just chalk it up to suspension of belief of the sake of the story and leave it at that. All that matters is that the show itself is good. My assumptions: Possibility A: a dungeon has all kinds of Magical Tools and treasures as said by Alibaba in the first episode. The rod could be one of those magic tools, which happened to be discovered by Aladdin. As a Magi, he has the proficiency to sense Rukh (life force) around him, and that's why he's able to use the rod as his temporary weapon. Possibility B: or it could be that the rod is just a normal dungeon treasure, but could also be used for fighting and Magoi channeling. About the separation, I believe that it was explained in the end of the next arc, that it was all the Rukh's (or maybe Solomon's, in this case) will. It's not a coincidence, but rather a destiny with purpose. |
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Oct 21, 2012 10:13 PM
#40
Oh man Alibaba is such a badass. Beating Jamil in a sword fight with a dagger. Dang, I'm really curious to find out about his past. Already my favourite Magi character. Jamil is such a douchebag. Too fixated on being 'king'. Forced Morgianna to kill Alibaba. Man I love how Aladdin is a like a peacemaker, calmly asking for his flute back. Instead he uses magic to trap Morgianna and Jamil loses everything. Ugo and Ammon communicating with each other was hilarious. xD Seems like Ammon is with Alibaba now, that's interesting. Goltas is one awesome dude. Freeing Morgianna and letting her go and stays in dungeon to atone for his sins. I like Judal's voice, can't wait to see more of him. So all three of them were separated after they got out of the dungeon, dang... Can't wait for more. :D |
Oct 21, 2012 10:23 PM
#41
wishbook said: Alladin's abilities as a Magi haven't been explain in the anime yet so I didn't know about that.InfiniteDestiny said: @wishbook Ya....no way they will squeeze that much in, no way at all, if anything this ends with the Balbadd arc, 70+ chapters is more than enough for 25 episodes, just look at Kuroko it did exactly the same thing. It's just a mathematical calculation. 18/3 = 6 chapters/eps. 6 x 25 = chapter 150. Once again, it's just a simple mathematical calculation. Although the pace could change anytime. AiCon said: hokaru said: I could believe that the place he was kicked to had the rod. Question is: How did he know that the rod was it out of all the stuff it was mixed up in time to save Allibaba?AiCon said: This episode had a big plot hole but over all I enjoyed it. Jamil was a prick and he got what he deserved. I didn't like how Alladin conveniently appeared out of nowhere with the magic staff. They didn't even know what to look for when they first went into the treasure room full of stuff. I'm supposed to believe that Alladin wakes up after being knocked out and suddenly finds that staff in a room full of stuff in time to save his friend. All of this without showing us how he even found it in the first place - just believe that he found it right away because he's the chosen one. Shyolk said: Ugh! Too big of a plot hole to suspend belief. I can only hope that there aren't more of these in the coming episodes.dashiawia said: Good episode, glad to see that arrogant tool put in his place, he had it coming. I hope to see Morgiana develop more, her character is pretty interesting. Also, how did Alibaba and Aladdin get separated at the end? I think I missed something... The same thing happened in the manga. If I remember correctly, it didn't explain it either. But you'll see what happens in the next episode! . Well, it's very safe to assume that the place he ended up at, after getting kicked by Morgiana, has that rod. I wouldn't call this a plot hole. About how did Alibaba and Aladdin got seperated, it's because when they exit the dungeon, all of them got sent to different places. Morgiana end up on outskirt of the city, Alibaba end up on the place the dungeon is (most likely because he is recognised as the dungeon capturer, so he alone end up there). And then Aladdin end up far away from them, well, stuffs about Rukh's guidance probably decided to send him there and meet the Baba and Hakuei. Also, why were they separated? I could believe that it was the will of one of the genies, but apparently it was never explained in the manga either, so it's a plot hole. I'll just chalk it up to suspension of belief of the sake of the story and leave it at that. All that matters is that the show itself is good. My assumptions: Possibility A: a dungeon has all kinds of Magical Tools and treasures as said by Alibaba in the first episode. The rod could be one of those magic tools, which happened to be discovered by Aladdin. As a Magi, he has the proficiency to sense Rukh (life force) around him, and that's why he's able to use the rod as his temporary weapon. Possibility B: or it could be that the rod is just a normal dungeon treasure, but could also be used for fighting and Magoi channeling. wishbook said: So I have to wait a while for that to come up then. At least you explained it to me. Thanks:)About the separation, I believe that it was explained in the end of the next arc, that it was all the Rukh's (or maybe Solomon's, in this case) will. It's not a coincidence, but rather a destiny with purpose. Edit: Modified with spoiler tags. |
IconicOct 21, 2012 10:39 PM
Oct 21, 2012 10:28 PM
#42
^ oops I think I must put a spoiler. Edit: done. But in short, the light birds are Aladdin's power, not the rod's. The rod is just a tool. |
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Oct 21, 2012 10:40 PM
#43
wishbook said: But in short, the light birds are Aladdin's power. Nope. Those light birds (the Rukh) represents the flow of life. Aladdin is able to borrow that power from the world itself, but it's not his. Additionally, when Alibaba was fighting Jamil you could see the light birds were drawn to Alibaba as well. |
Oct 21, 2012 10:54 PM
#44
GG roll credits Alibaba you cleared it and got rich! fitting ending for this series lol though that's what i would like to say but this just the start huh wonder what their gonna do next or will it continue with the dungeon clearing for now as the story picks up?. |
Oct 21, 2012 11:12 PM
#45
AiCon said: I could believe that the place he was kicked to had the rod. Question is: How did he know that the rod was it out of all the stuff it was mixed up in time to save Allibaba? Also, why were they separated? I could believe that it was the will of one of the genies, but apparently it was never explained in the manga either, so it's a plot hole. I'll just chalk it up to suspension of belief of the sake of the story and leave it at that. All that matters is that the show itself is good. For anyone else who misunderstand or want to know... Any rod will do. Who knows how many rod looking stuffs are in that room. It's just that the place he ended up at, has a rod. (read chapter 78)Magic is the transformation of 'Magoi' into other substances . Unlike normal people, Magician (magic user), including Aladdin (the Magi), can transform their 'Magoi' without any tools. In simple, Aladdin can use magic without any tools. The rod belong to Baba that Aladdin received and is using now (I mean in later chapters) doesn't have any effect too. Basically, any normal rod/wand/staff is alright to use. The main reason of using a rod is to guide where to release their magic. Look at: http://mangafox.me/manga/magi/v14/c136/18.html You will get the idea how Magoi move from his body to the rod and released magic to tip of the rod. About why they got separated.. Wait, so you said " never explained in the manga either" meaning you read the manga but didn't know that...? or maybe you just forgotten that... It was explained in chapter 26 that Aladdin's Journey was guided by the great Rukh's will. The guidance of Rukh is what called 'Fate', that will naturally happen. Basically, Rukh wanted Aladdin to be Alibaba, that's why they met. Rukh wanted Aladdin to meet Baba and Hakuei, so he got transported there and got saved by Kouga clan. Al Sarmen and people who use black Rukh are people who hinder the flow and will of Rukh. How to say.. if you don't understand what this mean then I don't know how to explain any better than this? It's like asking why Amon uses fire, which is a fact. |
hokaruOct 21, 2012 11:41 PM
Oct 21, 2012 11:18 PM
#46
AiCon said: So I have to wait a while for that to come up then. At least you explained it to me. Thanks:) Edit: Modified with spoiler tags. Ahh I see, so you didn't read the manga, it's another person who told you that it's never explained in the manga. |
hokaruOct 21, 2012 11:22 PM
Oct 21, 2012 11:28 PM
#47
hokaru said: AiCon said: I could believe that the place he was kicked to had the rod. Question is: How did he know that the rod was it out of all the stuff it was mixed up in time to save Allibaba? Also, why were they separated? I could believe that it was the will of one of the genies, but apparently it was never explained in the manga either, so it's a plot hole. I'll just chalk it up to suspension of belief of the sake of the story and leave it at that. All that matters is that the show itself is good. Any rod will do. Who knows how many rod looking stuffs are in that room. It's just that the place he ended up at, has a rod. (read chapter 78)Magic is the transformation of 'Magoi' into other substances . Unlike normal people, Magician (magic user), including Aladdin (the Magi), can transform their 'Magoi' without any tools. In simple, Aladdin can use magic without any tools. The rod belong to Baba that Aladdin received and is using now (I mean in later chapters) doesn't have any effect too. Basically, any normal rod/wand/staff is alright to use. The main reason of using a rod is to guide where to release their magic. Look at: http://mangafox.me/manga/magi/v14/c136/18.html You will get the idea how Magoi move from his body to the rod and released magic to tip of the rod. About why they got separated.. Wait, so you said " never explained in the manga either" meaning you read the manga but didn't know that...? or maybe you just forgotten that... It was explained in chapter 26 that Aladdin's Journey was guided by the great Rukh's will. The guidance of Rukh is what called 'Fate', that will naturally happen. Basically, Rukh wanted Aladdin to be Alibaba, that's why they met. Rukh wanted Aladdin to meet Baba and Hakuei, so he got transported there and got saved by Kouga clan. Al Sarmen and people who use black Rukh are people who hinder the flow and will of Rukh. How to say.. if you don't understand what this mean then I don't know how to explain any better than this? It's like asking why Amon uses fire, which is a fact. Also, I guess it would've been easier to accept the fact that all of them ended up at different places considering that going in and going out of the dungeon is pretty random. In the manga, when Aladdin and Alibaba first enter the dungeon, Aladdin arrived much earlier than Alibaba did. There wasn't any explanation for this either...but I wouldn't say that it is a plot hole but just that the dungeon is pretty weird regarding entering and exiting. And yeah, I definitely agree with hokaru that this is something to accept as a fact...that the dungeon works this way, and that's that. |
Oct 21, 2012 11:31 PM
#48
In this episode 4.5 chapters has been adapted, the total of chapters adapted till now is 16 not 18. They'll slow down in Balbadd eventually. @AiCon wishbook said: Exactly, the dungeon has stuff scattered all around the place, vessels and rods namely but Aladdin's power is not from that rod, it's from the Rukh/little birds/life force and him being a Magi. They'll be explained in the next 2 episodes. About that rod or staff, it was beside him after Morgiana kicked him:But in short, the light birds are Aladdin's power, not the rod's. The rod is just a tool. About the dungeon, first of all we don't know much about dungeons, but notice that they went outside of the earth to enter the dungeon and the same thing happened to go out of it, but again, it's the Rukh's guidance, the big yellow bird made them separate. OT: So they spoke about Sinbad in this episode, and now off to Kouga. Was waiting to see Alibaba using his dagger, the battle was one-sided but was good, the foreshadowing was clear in this episode. Good to see Alibaba getting all the love, he'll probably get dozens more in Balbadd, his arc. |
Candor123Oct 21, 2012 11:35 PM
Oct 21, 2012 11:32 PM
#49
hokaru said: Yeah, pretty much.AiCon said: So I have to wait a while for that to come up then. At least you explained it to me. Thanks:) Edit: Modified with spoiler tags. Ahh I see, so you didn't read the manga, it's another person who told you that it's never explained in the manga. Candor said: I missed that. Thanks.In this episode 4.5 chapters has been adapted, the total of chapters adapted till now is 16 not 18. They'll slow down in Balbadd eventually. @AiCon wishbook said: Exactly, the dungeon has stuff scattered all around the place, vessels and rods namely but Aladdin's power is not from that rod, it's from the Rukh/little birds/life force and him being a Magi. They'll be explained in the next 2 episodes. About that rod or staff, it was beside him after Morgiana kicked him:But in short, the light birds are Aladdin's power, not the rod's. The rod is just a tool. winnie520 said: hokaru said: That explains a lot.AiCon said: I could believe that the place he was kicked to had the rod. Question is: How did he know that the rod was it out of all the stuff it was mixed up in time to save Allibaba? Also, why were they separated? I could believe that it was the will of one of the genies, but apparently it was never explained in the manga either, so it's a plot hole. I'll just chalk it up to suspension of belief of the sake of the story and leave it at that. All that matters is that the show itself is good. Any rod will do. Who knows how many rod looking stuffs are in that room. It's just that the place he ended up at, has a rod. (read chapter 78)Magic is the transformation of 'Magoi' into other substances . Unlike normal people, Magician (magic user), including Aladdin (the Magi), can transform their 'Magoi' without any tools. In simple, Aladdin can use magic without any tools. The rod belong to Baba that Aladdin received and is using now (I mean in later chapters) doesn't have any effect too. Basically, any normal rod/wand/staff is alright to use. The main reason of using a rod is to guide where to release their magic. Look at: http://mangafox.me/manga/magi/v14/c136/18.html You will get the idea how Magoi move from his body to the rod and released magic to tip of the rod. winnie520 said: Everything is really making sense now.About why they got separated.. Wait, so you said " never explained in the manga either" meaning you read the manga but didn't know that...? or maybe you just forgotten that... It was explained in chapter 26 that Aladdin's Journey was guided by the great Rukh's will. The guidance of Rukh is what called 'Fate', that will naturally happen. Basically, Rukh wanted Aladdin to be Alibaba, that's why they met. Rukh wanted Aladdin to meet Baba and Hakuei, so he got transported there and got saved by Kouga clan. Al Sarmen and people who use black Rukh are people who hinder the flow and will of Rukh. How to say.. if you don't understand what this mean then I don't know how to explain any better than this? It's like asking why Amon uses fire, which is a fact. Also, I guess it would've been easier to accept the fact that all of them ended up at different places considering that going in and going out of the dungeon is pretty random. In the manga, when Aladdin and Alibaba first enter the dungeon, Aladdin arrived much earlier than Alibaba did. There wasn't any explanation for this either...but I wouldn't say that it is a plot hole but just that the dungeon is pretty weird regarding entering and exiting. And yeah, I definitely agree with hokaru that this is something to accept as a fact...that the dungeon works this way, and that's that. Oh, for everyone who's given out spoilers to explain stuff and are worried about ruining the show for me - Don't worry. I love spoilers and I'm not the type who's anime would be ruined or drop a show because of spoilers. Thanks everyone and spoil away. |
IconicOct 21, 2012 11:51 PM
Oct 21, 2012 11:34 PM
#50
This is really fast paced but it doesn't feel rushed to me. The prince really sucks when it comes to sword fighting, owned by a little dagger on a big open space. I guess Alibaba is just kick-ass and that the prince just really sucks. I wonder how the three will find each other again. I can't wait for more. |
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