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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Great episode, Duke Orleans is such an asshole. Can't really feel sorry for Jeane that much though, she was evil XD |
| I still can't get over how Andre "heard" Oscar call out for him lawl. |
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| That Rosalie is such an idiot to fall for that... if Polignac accused Oscar on the grounds of her relationship with her the only thing she needed to do was name her as her mother and Polignac would fall with them... Polignac would never dare... And rip Jeanne... you were a bitch... but at least you were an interesting character... |
Alas86Mar 4, 2011 11:39 AM
| blackmailing ur own daughter to love you?.. lol who does that =| |
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| So this is the end of Jeanne and Nicolas. Fitting and somehow dignified. She was truly a strong character. And Polignac seems to have lost it completely by now, what does she think to achieve by forcing Rosalie to call her mother? And I was definitely also thinking it was Orleans, but as the narrator said we can never know for sure. Another very good episode. The second half really seems to be even better than the first. And there's still many episodes left, I'm really excited. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
-valkyrie- said: blackmailing ur own daughter to love you?.. lol who does that =| A twisted and power-hungry individual. But Alas86 makes a really good point. It would be so easy for Rosalie to turn the tables on Polignac if Polignac went through with her little blackmail scheme. Perhaps Rosalie is naïve to a certain extent, too. Whatever the case, I'm curious to see why Polignac thinks it will benefit her in some way to drag Rosalie into her house and home. |
| Even though Jeanne was a bitch she sure was an great antagonist for a little while. I admit I almost did tear up when she was about to die. Polignac being even more of a bitch. |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
| Well goodbye Jeanne, will not be shedding any tears for you, but Polignac is back with an even worse vengeance. Ugh she needs to die too. |
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| I think Jeanne is such a great character. Yes, she was a bitch but it's not like she was complete evil. I think it's Orleans or Robespierre...nah fuck it. It's Orleans. |
| I'm going to miss Jeanne and Nicolas. They were a great evil duel. |
| Good riddance Rosalie >:D Also no pity felt for Jeanne. |
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| Unless Polignac has other intention by blackmailing her own daughter to stay with her, I found her motive ridiculous. Jeanne's by far the best antagonist of the series so far. Such a fitting end for her. |
| I think Polignac went insane after seeing her daughter die, so even by force she needed someone to replace her daughter god please tell me Oscar falls in love with Andre in the end or something....I really doubt it though, I think Andre will die for her and in that moment she will probably recognize his feelings for her sigh.............. |
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| Has to be my least fav episode so far. Every single thing, from Polignac's very own existence to how the whole thing with Jeanne ended was so-so. Cmon RoV you can do better... |
Kagami_Hiiragi said: Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money. |
| Jeanne turned out to be a really standout character. I hope we'll get more Andre/Oscar developments soon. |
| Andre hearing Oscar's faint cry for help has to be one of the weakest point I've seen so far in this series. Still, everything else was top notch. So hard to see Oscar put up with this mess of affairs. |
 Just this once, I'll fulfill whatever your wish is. |
| In this episode: Polignac Secures an Heir, by hook or by crook. And a mysterious stash of gunpowder is found in the cellar of a monastery. Coincidence? I think not. Smells like a Revolution! R.I.P. Jeanne de Valois. Master con woman, who managed to trick an entire nation. |
| "You still hate me, don't you?" No fucking way. Polignac's blackmail was so easy to counter, just tell them she's her mother. Andre "being able to hear Oscar" was the last bullshit I needed, Rose of Versailles never fails to deliver. |
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| As much as this anime tried I have no sympathy for Jeanne. Funny how they tried to draw sympathy by pointing out how she was unhappy with her life while Rosalie was happy. No shit, Rosalie didn't have to resort to con and theft to find herself a comfortable life, so why should I feel bad for Jeanne when she didn't even need to do what she did? Jeanne merely received her just desserts, and the supporters of the soon-to-be Revolution were able to benefit from her case. Of course it goes without saying that the real Jeanne didn't die by blowing herself up in a monastery's powder magazine (because as we all know every monastery in France stored a fortress' worth of gunpowder to light all those candles they use or something). She did escape prison (as was shown). Reportedly she was able to disguise herself as a male and made her way to London before publishing her memoirs (which did slander Antoinette). She only lived until 1791 when she took horrendous injuries after falling out of her hotel window. Her husband, Nicholas, was able to stay hidden (and alive) until the French Revolution when he was able to return to France. I can see that they tried to make things more interesting for the story, but what they decided on was plain stupid, holy cellar bomb and all. Jeanne giving up after one too many liters of vodka was just anticlimatic. There were enough hints leading to it to where I'm not upset that she did it, but the set up behind it was clunky and unfocused, especially compared to Charlotte's suicide. André getting asspulled into the scene to save Oscar was a joke too. Now I'm worried to see how they butchered Fersen's story as he returns 3 years late. |
| First I thought there might be hope for Jeanne after she escaped prison, but this episode ultimately concluded everything for her,gotta say that despite all the things she did, I still felt really sad for her and even shed a tear. Great way for her to go out. Excellent episode again overall and I'm dying to know who that mysterious person is,even if I have a slight clue.. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Really thought Jeanne rotting in her cell would be the end for her...well at least she went out by her own decision with a huge bang. Also thought Polignac learned her lesson after causing Charlotte's death... poor Rosalie has to suffer again... I hope she gets a good end |
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| Out of all the antagonists, I hate Polignac the most for some reason. At least Jeanne has a rags to riches story going for her. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Very good episode! Though, Jeanne was so fierce, im surprised she ended up killing herself. |
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| One thing I could do without in this anime is all the evil laughs. Or most of them. Polignac had no reason to laugh like that. |
| should've known the Duke of Orleans was behind the mayhem of breaking Jeannie out .. .. and of course ,, the moment I ask for Polignac ,, she makes her return and is as big of a bitvh as ever  |
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| Not the biggest fan of how they decided to depict how Jeanne died but it fits in some way with her whole narrative that her actions brought her to this very situation when she had nowhere to run. I did liked the exchanges between Polignac and Rosalie but I hope there is an actual reason behind for Polignac's blackmail, not surprised Rosalie went ahead with it since is not like she's that much of a thinker for lack of a better word. |
| Jeanne has the opportunity to change! Well, Madame Polignac, perverse just!!! kekeke |
| Oscar, weakly: Andre Muthafuckin Andre who knows how far outside the church: Ay, She callin muh name. Im cumin. Rip Jeanne. Even surrounded by all this wealth, she wasnt really happy as she drowned out her unhappiness with the bottle. Also, we get to see Polignac storyline back after a few eps. Jeanne and du Barry are dead. Polignac lives and so does the Master manipulator, Duke Orleans, on top of Robespierre stirring up the revolution. |
"Perfection is perception. For me, humanity's imperfections is what makes it perfect"  |
| I really want Madame Polignac to die a horrible death for God's sake. Whatever her intentions were in taking back Rosalie must have been bad. |
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   These two are trash! But they're sort of cute...  Guilty pleasure. |
| "now call me mother" ... followed by maniacal laughter |
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