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Apr 23, 2023 4:26 AM
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Since some of the streaming services are being available where I live I consider to use one... The only thing that is bothering me is if the price for them is worth paying for the content you're getting...~
Apr 23, 2023 6:49 AM
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beloved_elysia23 said:
Since some of the streaming services are being available where I live I consider to use one... The only thing that is bothering me is if the price for them is worth paying for the content you're getting...~

Depends on the region and what you want to watch. If you live in Asia (outside Middle East and India), then Crunchyroll is absolutely a no-go, Netflix and other streaming sites simulcast anime there instead. If you live outside Asia, and you want to watch only anime, then Crunchyroll is better than Netflix.
Apr 23, 2023 6:53 AM
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i say if you have a disposable income and want to financially support the anime industry then subscribing to CR and other legal streaming sites is the cheapest way to do that

but otherwise no since illegal pirated streaming sites still have more anime than any single legal streaming site
Apr 23, 2023 7:35 AM
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If you live in India, then you will have the cheapest Crunchyroll premium subscription in the whole world. 

But the library would be very limited. 

So I'd just use a VPN to the USA, I think even those free ones work from what I've tested.
Apr 23, 2023 10:03 AM
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If you live in India, then you will have the cheapest Crunchyroll premium subscription in the whole world. 

But the library would be very limited. 
So I'd just use a VPN to the USA, I think even those free ones work from what I've tested.


This is false. You can't make a dumb dollars to Indian Rupees comparison without taking into account how much people earn in their country.
It's also worth noting that CR doesn't technically allow VPNs, so they can take action if they find out. Whether they will is another story.

The average salary in India is 13,912RS per month, while the Crunchyroll fan sub is 79RS
That translates to an avefrage monthly salary of 169 usd and a monthly sub price of $.96.
It cost about .57% of the salary per month to pay for a CR subscription in India for the vast majority of its citizens. Because 13,912RS is only an average, some earn significantly less than that.

For comparison's sake, Americans earn an average of 4560 USD per month. CR is 8 USD a month. That means it costs less than .18% of the salary for the average working American.

tldr: it takes about .57% of the monthly salary in India, and less than .18% in USA to subscribe to CR.
sauce:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/salary-rs-25k-per-month-youre-among-indias-top-10-wage-earners/rs-300000-per-annum/slideshow/91810377.cms

https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/crunchyroll-anime-streaming-in-india-subscription-cost-8385476/

https://take-profit.org/en/statistics/wages/united-states/

edit: if a CR cost the same proportion of the monthly salary in the USA as it does in India (.57% of monthly salary), the fan subscription would cost 26 USD. looking it this way, suddenly it doesn't look cheap, does it?
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Apr 23, 2023 12:44 PM
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I prefer owning stuff to streaming but Netflix's selection is big enough that it's worth the price imo even though lately it feels like the amount of good stuff leaving is larger than the amount of good stuff coming in.
Still there are plenty of kinos to be found.
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Apr 23, 2023 3:26 PM
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Crunchyroll is ruining the Western anime industry single handedly. They heavily censor and use bizarre translations. Netflix has a tendency to remove content a lot so you have to rush through shows before they disappear. If you want to put money into the industry you're better off getting directly from the studios you like most since various ones do streaming these days and you can just screen mirror it to your tv if you want...or just buy official merchandise and blueray disk copies. BD sales are actually what are used to determine if a show gets another season.
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Apr 23, 2023 4:21 PM
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DreamingBeats said:
This is false. You can't make a dumb dollars to Indian Rupees comparison without taking into account how much people earn in their country.

The average salary in India is 13,912RS per month, while the Crunchyroll fan sub is 79RS
That translates to an avefrage monthly salary of 169 usd and a monthly sub price of $.96.
It cost about .57% of the salary per month to pay for a CR subscription in India for the vast majority of its citizens. Because 13,912RS is only an average, some earn significantly less than that.

For comparison's sake, Americans earn an average of 4560 USD per month. CR is 8 USD a month. That means it costs less than .18% of the salary for the average working American.

tldr: it takes about .57% of the monthly salary in India, and less than .18% in USA to subscribe to CR.
sauce:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/salary-rs-25k-per-month-youre-among-indias-top-10-wage-earners/rs-300000-per-annum/slideshow/91810377.cms

https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/crunchyroll-anime-streaming-in-india-subscription-cost-8385476/

https://take-profit.org/en/statistics/wages/united-states/

edit: if a CR cost the same proportion of the monthly salary in the USA as it does in India (.57% of monthly salary), the fan subscription would cost 26 USD. looking it this way, suddenly it doesn't look cheap, does it?
Never said anything about the proportions of each country's average income.

My statement wasn't wrong, just like how yours wasn't either. 

In total, it's the cheapest. 
But by proportion of average income, it's not. 

traed said:
Crunchyroll is ruining the Western anime industry single handedly. They heavily censor and use bizarre translations.  Netflix has a tendency to remove content a lot so you have to rush through shows before they disappear. If you want to put money into the industry you're better off getting directly from the studios you like most since various ones do streaming these days and  you can just screen mirror it to your tv if you want...or just buy official merchandise and blueray disk copies. BD sales are actually what are used to determine if a show gets another season.
I wanted to buy Shield Hero merch but I was afraid of supporting Crunchyroll in the process, so idk what to do...

Also wanted to buy some anime blu-rays, but the majority of them are released here by Crunchyroll/Funimation, Sentai, Viz, etc...
Apr 23, 2023 8:00 PM
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I personally found the best investment for watching anime is a good VPN.

I second @traed on not supporting crunchyroll and buying merchandise instead if you want to support the industry.
Apr 23, 2023 11:40 PM

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>Censoring
>Bizarre or inaccurate translations
>Cut content
>Limited catalog of shows to watch
>Available shows dependent on region
>Subscription-based
>CR probably uses the money for other things (high guardian spice)

Nope. Not worth it. You're better off sailing the seven seas. Either buy blu-ray's or merch directly if you want to support the industry.
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Depends I only use Netflix as it has available Polish subs and ocasionally Lektor/Dubbing depends on what you're watching and so far I don't have many complaints as I ocasionally watch Tv Shows, rarely Anime.

For CR no idea as far as I know they offer only English language/Non-Polish so I am not interested for paying their services if they are not supporting my native language.
Apr 24, 2023 11:06 AM

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TheAngryNerd said:
>Censoring
>Bizarre or inaccurate translations
>Cut content
>Limited catalog of shows to watch
>Available shows dependent on region
>Subscription-based
>CR probably uses the money for other things (high guardian spice)

Nope. Not worth it. You're better off sailing the seven seas. Either buy blu-ray's or merch directly if you want to support the industry.
Sad that you can't start a blu-ray collection without buying from Crunchyroll. 

I wanted to buy Dragon Maid, Mob Psycho, High School DxD on blu-ray, but they were all released by Crunchyroll. 

So idk what to do. 
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MadanielFL said:
TheAngryNerd said:
>Censoring
>Bizarre or inaccurate translations
>Cut content
>Limited catalog of shows to watch
>Available shows dependent on region
>Subscription-based
>CR probably uses the money for other things (high guardian spice)

Nope. Not worth it. You're better off sailing the seven seas. Either buy blu-ray's or merch directly if you want to support the industry.
Sad that you can't start a blu-ray collection without buying from Crunchyroll. 

I wanted to buy Dragon Maid, Mob Psycho, High School DxD on blu-ray, but they were all released by Crunchyroll. 

So idk what to do. 


Step 1:




Step 2: Buy crap from shows you like from Japanese stores. There are a plethora that ship to the U.S. with no need to go through CR or ebay or whatever.

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MadanielFL said:
Sad that you can't start a blu-ray collection without buying from Crunchyroll. 

I wanted to buy Dragon Maid, Mob Psycho, High School DxD on blu-ray, but they were all released by Crunchyroll. 

So idk what to do. 


Step 1:



Step 2: Buy crap from shows you like from Japanese stores. There are a plethora that ship to the U.S. with no need to go through CR or ebay or whatever.
But if I buy merch from a series like Shield Hero, even if I import from Japan. Part of my money would still be going to Crunchyroll since they were on the production committee for that show.

So idk what to do. 
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MadanielFL said:
SentienceSeeker said:




Step 1:



Step 2: Buy crap from shows you like from Japanese stores. There are a plethora that ship to the U.S. with no need to go through CR or ebay or whatever.
But if I buy merch from a series like Shield Hero, even if I import from Japan. Part of my money would still be going to Crunchyroll since they were on the production committee for that show.

So idk what to do. 


You can always buy used, depending on the type of merchandise you are looking for.

And as for CR still getting a cut of Shield Hero merchandise; they were only on the committee for production, I doubt that they would receive much if any proceeds from merchandise sold exclusively in Japan. Even if CR did get a percentage of SH merchandise sales, buying SH merchandise shows that you want more content like it and encourages more seasons and/or similar anime to be made, while paying for a subscription is just throwing money blindly at CR, which would just encourage them to make more High Guardian Spice garbage.
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SentienceSeeker said:
MadanielFL said:
But if I buy merch from a series like Shield Hero, even if I import from Japan. Part of my money would still be going to Crunchyroll since they were on the production committee for that show.

So idk what to do. 


You can always buy used, depending on the type of merchandise you are looking for.

And as for CR still getting a cut of Shield Hero merchandise; they were only on the committee for production, I doubt that they would receive much if any proceeds from merchandise sold exclusively in Japan. Even if CR did get a percentage of SH merchandise sales, buying SH merchandise shows that you want more content like it and encourages more seasons and/or similar anime to be made, while paying for a subscription is just throwing money blindly at CR, which would just encourage them to make more High Guardian Spice garbage.
But that's how production committees work. 

They invest money to fund the production of a show, and in return, they get to keep any profits the show makes. 

And in the case of merch, they license the IP for other companies to make merch of it. 
So for example, the committee will license the IP for GoodSmile Company to make a figure of the show. 

And so, to know if a merch is official or not, all you have to do is look for the committee's tag on the box. 


Also buying used defeats the purpose of supporting the industry, so idk why you are even suggesting that. 

And the team behind High Guardian Spice doesn't even work at Crunchyroll anymore. 
So this last statement just doesn't make any sense, because Cr has not produced a western animated show for years now. 
In the meantime they have co-produced actual anime like Blue Lock, COTE S2, In/Spectre, Tomo-chan, etc...
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Sadly no...the service itself is quite bad sometimes, with a plethora of bandwidth, video quality, and subtitle translation issues, which make the anime watching experience quite taxing.

Is it the best way to watch anime legally...sure, but you'll spend $96 a year, just to end up constantly bitching and whining about all of the issues you will encounter in that time.

But, IMHO...that money would be better spent getting a good VPN service (at about 1/4 of the price), and use several of the well known anime sites "on the high seas" that are out there...8 out of 10 times, those services have anime in much better video and audio quality, with more accurate translated subtitles (in many languages), and the episodes are available to watch at a much faster rate than most paid services, plus, you would have the advantage of having a VPN you could use for other purposes, including privacy and security online, and with other paid streaming services you may already have.

If you want to support the anime in a legal fashion, then buy official merch, official DVD'S or Blu-ray's when they come out, or buy official copies of the manga or light novel the anime is based off of.
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I have the cheapest Crunchyroll premium subscription.
I would say that if they have the series or simulcasts you want, go for it; if not, then don't bother. I really only still have my subscription because they have some series I like and I don't have much access to other streaming sites. They don't pick up stuff I'm actually interested in half the time anyways, so I'm thinking about maybe leaving the site.
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Sadly no...the service itself is quite bad sometimes, with a plethora of bandwidth, video quality, and subtitle translation issues, which make the anime watching experience quite taxing.

Is it the best way to watch anime legally...sure, but you'll spend $96 a year, just to end up constantly bitching and whining about all of the issues you will encounter in that time.

But, IMHO...that money would be better spent getting a good VPN service (at about 1/4 of the price), and use several of the well known anime sites "on the high seas" that are out there...8 out of 10 times, those services have anime in much better video and audio quality, with more accurate translated subtitles (in many languages), and the episodes are available to watch at a much faster rate than most paid services, plus, you would have the advantage of having a VPN you could use for other purposes, including privacy and security online, and with other paid streaming services you may already have.
What subtitle translation issues are you talking about? Cause I really haven't experienced any. 

Also, you talk about how the high seas has "more accurate translated subtitles" yet those pirate sites use the exact SAME subs as legal streaming sites, cause they get the videos from them after all. 

Also, not sure where you got the "much better video and audio quality" from. Cause legal streaming always has 1080p with perfect audio quality all the time. 
Unlike some pirate sites where some shows will be fine, and then others the quality will be garbage. 

And I don't understand "the episodes are available to watch at a much faster rate than most paid services" either. 
Cause from looking release schedules, pirate sites wait until episodes come out on legal sites, so they can copy the video and post it on their sites. 
And from what I've seen, there's like a 20-30 minute delay between the release on legal streaming to pirate sites. 
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OP was nuked but to anyone else reading this I guess, it's only as good as what you personally use it for. If it's a valuable service to you, then by all means pay for it. But if not, then don't. I don't personally pay for it because I don't use it enough to justify the price.

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Just for the reason of watching on my TV, I'd say it's worth it.
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Finally got a Crunchyroll account after years of pirating whatever I couldn't find on Netflix since the illegal streaming sites I used in high school are either gone or shadows of their former selves. It's cheap compared to Netflix, Disney Plus or anything like that so I'm definitely not gonna complain.
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I have a strong love-hate relationship with streaming in generals and for couple of big reasons. I'll break into details after I'm done doing my things. So be right back.
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I signed up for it once ages ago, but just didn't find it worth it. The video player was awful back then. Plus being in the UK means I get less anime anyway and I'm just paying crunchyroll for their weird projects. Also salty that they bought out Right Stuf or something so now they don't ship dvd's to the UK.
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Why would anyone ever want to support Crunchyroll
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I do subscribe to Crunchyroll. It provides decent value as the yearly subscription doesn't break the bank and you get a reasonable selection of good anime. Sure there is censorship and it doesn't host all the series I want but nothing is perfect. The stuff they do censor isn't normally enough to put me off so I live with it. I do think if people feel strongly about seeing uncensored versions then they should get the Blu-rays, at least once in a while. You should try not to watch all your anime on the back of van, if you get my drift. Anyways, for better or for worse, the streaming model is here to stay.
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I just pirate everything lol. But I do have netflix so I can watch it with my family on the tv.

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So regarding what I wrote last night (and due to a lot of stuff last night), here's why my hate in my love-hate relationship with streaming has increased for the last few years (and I say this as someone who used to watch a lot of content on streaming since late 2000's when it was still niche and brand new back then):

  • The prices for subscription keep increasing almost every year, to the point where you may have to cancel it and that has been reported lately.

  • Contents meaning both 1st & 3rd party "original/exclusives" content being removed from platform after it's term end: I've been monitoring streaming platforms like Netflix, Prime Video, Disney+, and HBO Max (I refused to call it Max) and I've noticed 1st and 3rd party "original" contents on each platform are being removed with sometime (I can't absolutely confirm this) no other streaming picking it up or no physical media release. I've been noticing more Netflix's 3rd party exclusives being removed from their platform. I mean at the beginning of this year, 8 of Netflix's original contents are no longer on Netflix. It's not only Netflix, but HBO Max had also removed a lot of their "original" contents including contents from Warner Bros, Cartoon Network/Adult Swim, Sesame Streets, & several HBO original shows too. Also, 6 of their films that were HBO Max's original exclusives have also been removed from that platform too. This is happening on other streaming sites like Disney+, Starz, and elsewhere. Also, I'm not going to bring up content rotating to different streaming providers because unless you have one paid subscription, and your favorite film from another decade was on that platform, and after it's time on that platform end, it goes to another streaming platform that you don't have a paid subscription for and you're luck ran out.

  • Ads on premium/paid subscription streaming sites: I mean this is just stupid, we paid subscription to not have ads, but now people are willing to pay for subscription and have ads at the same time!!! What's the point of this, and it's just stupid. When I heard that Amazon Prime Video is going to add advertisements on Jan 29 of this year for paid subscribers unless you paid an additional $2.99 to watch it ad-free, that just ticks me off because Amazon already has ads on their Freevee, what's the point of making their paid subscribers to force them to watch advertising when that's already done on Freevee (and that defeat the purpose of having Freevee). Don't force paid subscribers to watch ads when they can do that on their Freevee. Netflix's ad subscription is just stupid because you're getting less content compared to their no-ads standard and Premium 4K plans. If you're going to put ads on streaming, make the platform subscription free like TubiTV, Pluto TV, and pre-premium/pre-2015 Hulu instead of making us pay for subscription and forcing us to watch ads.


So that's my beef with streaming nowadays. Yes, I've been streaming content since the early days of Youtube, and when Crunchyroll used to be free and had content I can watch back then before being bought out and change ownerships. It sadden me to see how streaming has become not only expensive (when it comes to paid subscription), but also convoluted and confusing (as in 1st and 3rd party exclusive original contents being remove from the platforms) and irritating to me (the ads on paid subscription).
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Obviously not. Stop wasting money and pirate.
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Mirai said:
Why would anyone ever want to support Crunchyroll
Nothing wrong with supporting the industry.

TibetanJazz666 said:
Obviously not. Stop wasting money and pirate.
Exactly, REAL anime fans would never do something so stupid like supporting the creators.
Jan 20, 2024 2:25 AM

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Mirai said:
Why would anyone ever want to support Crunchyroll
Nothing wrong with supporting the industry.

TibetanJazz666 said:
Obviously not. Stop wasting money and pirate.
Exactly, REAL anime fans would never do something so stupid like supporting the creators.
@MadanielFL yeah supporting the company that doesn't pay it's translators and voice actors is a great way to support the industry 👍
Jan 20, 2024 2:35 AM

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Mirai said:
Why would anyone ever want to support Crunchyroll
Nothing wrong with supporting the industry.

TibetanJazz666 said:
Obviously not. Stop wasting money and pirate.
Exactly, REAL anime fans would never do something so stupid like supporting the creators.
@MadanielFL Oh yeah stupid me, forgot that supporting a sub-standard company who's primary incentive is to keep its sub-standard mass afloat is "supporting the creators". Get a grip dude lol.
Jan 20, 2024 6:41 AM

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Mirai said:
yeah supporting the company that doesn't pay it's translators and voice actors is a great way to support the industry 👍
Ah yes, cause watching anime for free is definitely gonna help their situation...
But anime pirates hate those translators and voice actors anyways, and they tell me that they should be fired...

https://x.com/yofavmexican__/status/1593749754240028672?s=20
https://x.com/Bruce_Selina/status/1740809988413816856?s=20

TibetanJazz666 said:
Oh yeah stupid me, forgot that supporting a sub-standard company who's primary incentive is to keep its sub-standard mass afloat is "supporting the creators". Get a grip dude lol.
Yes, cause producing anime doesn't count as supporting the industry......
I mean, it seems you like Kemono Friends, which is ironic consideing they helped fund that show...
Jan 25, 2024 10:23 PM

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Used to pay for Crunchyroll until I realized it didn't even have a lot of the anime I wanted to watch.

Netflix is in the same boat. Might have a lot of originals, but sometimes if I'm in the mood for a specific movie, chances are they won't have it.

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