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Jul 20, 2022 8:50 AM
#1
I just know a lot of guys that are actually above average looking and have good careers and yet they can never get a match on any of the apps much less a date. Their profiles look fine too. And then you can make a low effort profile as an average woman and be drowning in matches. It's bizarre. Many just feel like giving up as well. |
Jul 20, 2022 8:53 AM
#2
My advice to these men would be to maybe get out there in the real world instead of wasting time on dumb dating sites. |
Jul 20, 2022 8:55 AM
#3
I'm sorry, but it isn't that complicated. I honestly feel like most of the troubles about dating are left behind during your teenage years. |
Jul 20, 2022 9:02 AM
#4
Fortunately there's plenty of other places to meet women. Like discord dating server, my kitten. |
Jul 20, 2022 9:04 AM
#5
Dating has never been easier for both sexes, in my opinion. That being said, I never use dating apps. |
Jul 20, 2022 9:57 AM
#6
Judging by the abnormal amount of online porn right now ...feels like there is no purity left out there, it's all too twisted by now. |
Jul 20, 2022 11:35 AM
#7
Dating app are fraud. As for average guy, he will get a women in future. So don't worry. |
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Jul 20, 2022 12:30 PM
#8
Well if you're aiming for dating from apps than it will be a disaster for every type of guy, it is better to just meet someone nice at bar get a nice talking receive her facebook/number and than go out for a date instead of using those apps which are less effective. |
Jul 20, 2022 12:38 PM
#9
Zettaiken said: Well if you're aiming for dating from apps than it will be a disaster for every type of guy, it is better to just meet someone nice at bar get a nice talking receive her facebook/number and than go out for a date instead of using those apps which are less effective. If I meet someone and they give me their damn facebook, I'll just assume it's their way of nicely telling me to fuck off lmao |
Jul 20, 2022 12:50 PM
#10
FrancoGYFV said: Zettaiken said: Well if you're aiming for dating from apps than it will be a disaster for every type of guy, it is better to just meet someone nice at bar get a nice talking receive her facebook/number and than go out for a date instead of using those apps which are less effective. If I meet someone and they give me their damn facebook, I'll just assume it's their way of nicely telling me to fuck off lmao He has a point though. Most of the trouble from modern dating comes from people over-relying on apps instead of good ol' fashioned interpersonal communication. If the luckless seekers would simply improve their social skills rather than trying to play the algorithm game, they'd have a better time. |
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Jul 20, 2022 2:14 PM
#11
FrancoGYFV said: Zettaiken said: Well if you're aiming for dating from apps than it will be a disaster for every type of guy, it is better to just meet someone nice at bar get a nice talking receive her facebook/number and than go out for a date instead of using those apps which are less effective. If I meet someone and they give me their damn facebook, I'll just assume it's their way of nicely telling me to fuck off lmao Well I don't know why it would be a point there, to say that someone is not interested into getting to know each other better but alot of times it is easier to give a facebook to simply chat through messenger, that's how I get to know with people whom I met at parties/bars/concerts etc. x) [at least that's my point of view here] |
Jul 20, 2022 2:21 PM
#12
Dating is never an easy thing, you won't just get into a relationship by just sitting there and waiting for it to fall into your lap. My advice would be just go outside and get out your bubble. Also maybe stop being an incel, tends to help |
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Jul 20, 2022 2:44 PM
#13
talking abt urself in the third person isnt very attractive for starters |
Jul 20, 2022 2:53 PM
#14
Jul 20, 2022 3:24 PM
#16
MadHobbit2 said: FrancoGYFV said: Zettaiken said: Well if you're aiming for dating from apps than it will be a disaster for every type of guy, it is better to just meet someone nice at bar get a nice talking receive her facebook/number and than go out for a date instead of using those apps which are less effective. If I meet someone and they give me their damn facebook, I'll just assume it's their way of nicely telling me to fuck off lmao He has a point though. Most of the trouble from modern dating comes from people over-relying on apps instead of good ol' fashioned interpersonal communication. If the luckless seekers would simply improve their social skills rather than trying to play the algorithm game, they'd have a better time. Eh. I haven't gone to a party or a bar for that kind of stuff in years, most of the people I date I simply met online by chance. I do agree that Tinder and apps of that kind are usually better reserved for a more casual relationship though. Zettaiken said: FrancoGYFV said: Zettaiken said: Well if you're aiming for dating from apps than it will be a disaster for every type of guy, it is better to just meet someone nice at bar get a nice talking receive her facebook/number and than go out for a date instead of using those apps which are less effective. If I meet someone and they give me their damn facebook, I'll just assume it's their way of nicely telling me to fuck off lmao Well I don't know why it would be a point there, to say that someone is not interested into getting to know each other better but alot of times it is easier to give a facebook to simply chat through messenger, that's how I get to know with people whom I met at parties/bars/concerts etc. x) [at least that's my point of view here] I was just making a "facebook is dead" joke, not really picking on your method of communication. Sorry if it came across that way. |
Jul 20, 2022 6:17 PM
#17
If you're looking for love on a dating app...then good luck I guess, they seem to lean more towards hookups. You're just going to have to put yourself out there and stop waiting for someone to fall into your lap, be assertive. Ahh my bad...I mean tell your "friend" that. |
Jul 22, 2022 3:58 AM
#18
Men have always been the pursuer and women the decider since the beginning of human history. It's clear that with this convention women have more power than men but due to the geographical limitation of the past, women only have limited options and thus the imbalance was negligible. Fast forward to the information age, social media and by extension dating apps now make it possible for women to have unlimited options. It gives them plenty of opportunities and incentives for aiming higher and higher, effectively making things difficult for men but also for themselves. Let's marvel at the greed in every woman, made more obvious by technology. |
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Jul 22, 2022 4:07 AM
#19
pizazz said: Men have always been the pursuer and women the decider since the beginning of human history. [Citation needed] ;p I'm a bit cheeky, I know. Also, you guys should see what it's like to be a woman using those apps. My former roommate and I were showing each other the convos we were having when I was still using them : On my side : most of the girls were somehow funny, cultivated, knew how to write etc. On her side : desperate dick pics and sentences that were barely written in french, or guys getting mad as soon as they didn't get an answer. I get why they get tired of that too, strangely enough ;) mylowesguide said: Oh , so sorry but i m not sure about that. @Locallyowned Quick, use the magic spell on this one to break the curse ! ;) |
MoonspeakJul 22, 2022 4:11 AM
Jul 22, 2022 7:34 AM
#20
You mean you don't like the conveyor belt experience™ that's been pushed on people for the past decade or so? :^) If I suddenly found myself single I'd probably have a hard time too, most experiences I've had with "modern" dating kinda left a bad taste in my mouth, things are expected to be all fast and snappy which just drags you into a lot of shit by the time you actually get to really know someone. |
Jul 22, 2022 7:37 AM
#21
Unless you are at least a 7/10 chadlite, you will get 0 matches. Height and face are everything for male smv. Beta buxing can never cause loyalty. If you are the 1-7/10 you should just find a different passion in life other than sex and family. Even a chad can become undesirable with hair loss and aging. |
Jul 22, 2022 7:51 AM
#22
Assingham said: I just know a lot of guys that are actually above average looking and have good careers and yet they can never get a match on any of the apps much less a date. Their profiles look fine too. And then you can make a low effort profile as an average woman and be drowning in matches. It's bizarre. Many just feel like giving up as well. I can vouch for this as I'm recently back in the dating pool and checking out dating apps over the last few months. Now, I'm knocked down a few pegs by being divorced and having a kid, those are some barriers to entry for some women. I dated some very attractive women in my 20's, but I'm 37 now, and I pretty much look it. All this to say my available pool is shallower than what it was when I was last dating. But yes, my experience and what I know from hearing from others matches your description. Most guys who are successful on there set their expectations really low and just kind of keep their profile active for a long time. Eventually they luck into a few dates and see where it goes. My (ex)brother in law married a girl from Tinder and they seem happy enough, so...I suppose it can happen. |
Jul 22, 2022 7:56 AM
#23
I am not good looking, more like average. I do not have a good career yet but I have a job. Even so I got dates with tinder over the years. Could be some areas are harder than others or you are aiming too high or you cannot make good convos there or you chose bad photos or you show a red flag in your profile... |
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Jul 22, 2022 7:56 AM
#24
Jul 22, 2022 8:15 AM
#25
Moonspeak said: pizazz said: Men have always been the pursuer and women the decider since the beginning of human history. [Citation needed] ;p I'm a bit cheeky, I know. Lol okay, the "since the beginning of human history" part is kinda hyperbolic but I surmise that the practice has a long history. For example in the marriage proposals it's always men who ask women to marry them, right? It got me curious so I looked a bit into the origin of the tradition and apparently it started in the medieval era. The conception of that time was "courtly love" While its origin is uncertain, the term amour courtois ("courtly love") was given greater popularity by Gaston Paris[5] in his 1883 article "Études sur les romans de la Table Ronde: Lancelot du Lac, II: Le conte de la charrette", a treatise inspecting Chrétien de Troyes's Lancelot, the Knight of the Cart (1177). Paris said amour courtois was an idolization and ennobling discipline. The lover (idolizer) accepts the independence of his mistress and tries to make himself worthy of her by acting bravely and honorably (nobly) and by doing whatever deeds she might desire, subjecting himself to a series of tests (ordeals) to prove to her his ardor and commitment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtly_love#Origin_of_term Basically, men need to prove themselves by doing various things that are often dangerous while women only need to be alive and breathing ;) Moonspeak said: Also, you guys should see what it's like to be a woman using those apps. My former roommate and I were showing each other the convos we were having when I was still using them : On my side : most of the girls were somehow funny, cultivated, knew how to write etc. On her side : desperate dick pics and sentences that were barely written in french, or guys getting mad as soon as they didn't get an answer. I get why they get tired of that too, strangely enough ;) That's why I said dating apps actually make things harder for both men and women. With more encounters, there are bound to be more bad apples for both parties. |
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Jul 22, 2022 8:22 AM
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Jul 22, 2022 9:57 AM
#27
Moonspeak said: @rohan121 Please, rate this guy : This is Alain Chabat. Without any fame or money, you can put this guy next to any of your 10 in a party full of top models, he'll be the one making them laugh and charming them. Charisma, guys. That is the key. The guy has a incredible jawline. If he is at least 6 ft I would give him at min a 7.5-8. Glasses do not hide his incredible facial features. |
Jul 22, 2022 10:02 AM
#28
rohan121 said: The guy has a incredible jawline. Come on... This is becoming laughable. It's got nothing to do with your stupid standards, the dude just oozes fun and love. |
Jul 22, 2022 10:21 AM
#29
pizazz said: women may have unlimited options but the product is almost always of such low quality that that doesnt mean much. lucky r those who find someone with whom they can have an intelligent conversation. most men people r idiotsMen have always been the pursuer and women the decider since the beginning of human history. It's clear that with this convention women have more power than men but due to the geographical limitation of the past, women only have limited options and thus the imbalance was negligible. Fast forward to the information age, social media and by extension dating apps now make it possible for women to have unlimited options. It gives them plenty of opportunities and incentives for aiming higher and higher, effectively making things difficult for men but also for themselves. Let's marvel at the greed in every woman, made more obvious by technology. |
Jul 22, 2022 10:39 AM
#30
Verthandi11 said: pizazz said: women may have unlimited options but the product is almost always of such low quality that that doesnt mean much. lucky r those who find someone with whom they can have an intelligent conversation. most men people r idiotsMen have always been the pursuer and women the decider since the beginning of human history. It's clear that with this convention women have more power than men but due to the geographical limitation of the past, women only have limited options and thus the imbalance was negligible. Fast forward to the information age, social media and by extension dating apps now make it possible for women to have unlimited options. It gives them plenty of opportunities and incentives for aiming higher and higher, effectively making things difficult for men but also for themselves. Let's marvel at the greed in every woman, made more obvious by technology. This^ If dating for men is like hunting prey, dating for women is like shopping on Wish. |
Jul 22, 2022 11:02 AM
#31
I met my current bf at a bookstore, so try not doing it online? He’s told me there’s a lot of bots on dating apps and they just target men to get more $ for you guys. Met him this year too |
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Jul 22, 2022 11:02 AM
#32
Moonspeak said: rohan121 said: The guy has a incredible jawline. Come on... This is becoming laughable. It's got nothing to do with your stupid standards, the dude just oozes fun and love. Another tall guy with a great face. Points for him not being bald despite aging too. |
Jul 22, 2022 11:08 AM
#33
@rohan121 Dude is 1m75. Same as me and my father. We're all under your precious 6ft tall, we all seduce easily. Will you stop reaching for bs already ? Dude Has CHARM @cornonacob My point, exactly. Real encounters make the better stories, they feel way more magical (when done right) than a goddamn screen |
Jul 22, 2022 11:12 AM
#34
The women on tinder are low quality women. Skip that shit. As long as you arent a manlet, deformed, severe autistic and / or obese you have a chance. If you are be rich. |
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Jul 22, 2022 11:23 AM
#35
Moonspeak said: @cornonacob My point, exactly. Real encounters make the better stories, they feel way more magical (when done right) than a goddamn screen I’ve tried dating apps as well and have met pretty interesting ppl..but at the same time pretty not so great ppl lol well you live and you learn. :P With meeting for the first time in person it was really no pressure and felt having a nice chat with someone where we got to communicate better about what we both looked for in going forward. Whereas on dating apps, the intention is built into the app (dating, hooking up, scamming lol) so like I felt there was a lot of pressure |
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Jul 22, 2022 3:29 PM
#36
SmugSatoko said: My advice to these men would be to maybe get out there in the real world instead of wasting time on dumb dating sites. Half of the girls I know that have gotten engaged or fully married in the past 4 years (around 10 total so 5 of them) have used dating apps to find their matches. And they all vary too: some are very religious, while the others viewed (not anymore hopefully) daily intercourse with randoms as a religious experience, yet these two completely different types of people with differing lifestyles were using apps to find love. I think it's far more significant than you're letting onto, because dating apps are now considered "the real world." |
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Jul 22, 2022 3:39 PM
#37
Well I've seen a study not long ago that in my country, by the age of 44, 1/10th of men have yet to be in a relationship (dating, married, anything ) at all. I'd say that's telling about the reality on dating nowadays, but that it's not from this last decade, but more like, this last 3-40 years. . |
Jul 22, 2022 3:44 PM
#38
Erg_Orgy said: Seriously though.. and the wish comment is right on point lmaoVerthandi11 said: women may have unlimited options but the product is almost always of such low quality that that doesnt mean much. lucky r those who find someone with whom they can have an intelligent conversation. most men people r idiots This^ If dating for men is like hunting prey, dating for women is like shopping on Wish. |
Jul 22, 2022 4:21 PM
#39
dankchungus said: Half of the girls I know that have gotten engaged or fully married in the past 4 years (around 10 total so 5 of them) have used dating apps to find their matches. And they all vary too: some are very religious, while the others viewed (not anymore hopefully) daily intercourse with randoms as a religious experience, yet these two completely different types of people with differing lifestyles were using apps to find love. I think it's far more significant than you're letting onto, because dating apps are now considered "the real world." I'm not denying that dating apps are popular or even effective. But if someone is getting no results with them, they're better off meeting people elsewhere. |
Jul 22, 2022 4:55 PM
#40
No, it's not. A good idea is to go outside instead of being on dating apps, especially if they're not effective. |
Jul 22, 2022 5:21 PM
#41
Now that we're allowed to actually leave our houses things are the same as they've ever been, if you put in the effort to make yourself a great catch you will have no issue finding great partners at work or school or hobby groups or whatever. If you're having trouble then it's on you to fix, it's nobody else's fault if you're struggling to find a partner. I don't know what dating websites are like currently, but apps like Tinder have gotten pretty garbage so definitely stay away from them, they tend to encourage shittier behaviors and attract shittier people from both sexes. Also if you're a dude you've got like no chance. Statistically speaking whilst men only reject 47% of women, women reject 97% of men. Ironically though women get rejected by over 80% of the men they try to match with because the a lot of the women on these apps have ludicrously unrealistic standards that they themselves don't even come anywhere close to meeting. As a result most everybody on these kinds of apps struggle to find decent matches and just end up feeling crappier about themselves. You'll have better chances looking elsewhere and you'll find better people. |
Jul 23, 2022 11:17 AM
#42
Jul 24, 2022 4:42 AM
#43
Nobody cares about looks or money if the personalities don't match. And honestly, guys who view dating as a "match finding" game are a major turnoff. |
Jul 24, 2022 6:10 AM
#44
Not any harder than it is for an average or below average women. Depends on where you live and whether you're finding a date irl or through apps. |
Jul 24, 2022 4:42 PM
#45
I stopped caring about irl relationships time ago, now I'm fictosexual and I can date, love and marry wherever fictional character I want. And I look better than your average 22-year-old and most irl ugly adults. |
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Jul 24, 2022 5:03 PM
#46
You're better off with a dinner date or flirting at a bar. Taking someone out on a date at a diner would be an expensive vanity project. As long as you have to pay that diner, restaurant, etc and not the chick or girlfriend you're dating. If a guy can't pay diner XYZ, then the girl will leave you and you're going to end up wasting precious time washing dishes like in that episode of The Flintstones. Poor Fred and Barney ended up washing dishes, then Wilma says sorry. Too little, too late Mrs. Cherrytop! Old hag! Seriously! the women in that cartoon are still kinda annoying after all these years. |
Jul 24, 2022 5:47 PM
#47
pizazz said: Basically, men need to prove themselves by doing various things that are often dangerous while women only need to be alive and breathing ;) TV Tropes has a page on that. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MenActWomenAre |
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Jul 24, 2022 6:21 PM
#48
dating apps kinda suck as they've been infested with bots, catfish and onlyfans marketing all of my dating in the past 3 years has just been through my girlfriends setting me up with their friends, if you're a loner with no friends that are women then dating is gonna be so much more difficult unless you're really good looking and have the gift of the gab. you're just an unknown in terms of trust and respect. if you ain't got nobody to vouch for you but yourself then eventually you'll just come across as desperate which is not desirable. i've sat with one of my friends and gone through her tinder with her and oh my god it is horrifying how some men act and present themselves on dating apps, it's really no wonder most swipes are left most men have a high dosage of copium on the topic of dating when the reality is many of them just have zero self-awareness and like to blame everything out of their control |
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Jul 24, 2022 11:56 PM
#49
Dating apps are shitty imo. They have a lot of bots, and scams and are expensive for no shit. You have much better chances (and will have a better time) with meeting up with women/men through other means or just going out and being a part of some club/group. That being said I've no experience in dating and stuff but I know that most of the guys on dating apps present themselves in a very shitty manner (and are shitty for the most part) no wonder women reject most of them. Incels and 'alpha males' roam these platforms looking to hit on someone just to completely lose their shit over some kind of rejection. |
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Jul 25, 2022 5:36 PM
#50
For the Majority of men, yes it very much is. Their are many fragile and weak-minded men these days tbh. |
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