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Nov 26, 2020 6:23 PM
#101
Satoko's arc is here, along with the mention of Satoshi, and the appearance of that fucking bastard Teppei. Really chill episode overall, felt more like an introduction of what this arc is about and wich characters will have a role in here. Nothing much to say about it. Ending tho, Rena was about to go psycho mode with the Oyashiro-sama's curse mention, and Satoko basically entered hell. Waiting for next week! |
Nov 26, 2020 6:34 PM
#102
The more I watch the more excited I get to spot the small differences from OG material. Correct me if I’m wrong but it the major changes I saw were 1. Keiichi’s parents coming home early 2. Shion being a big sister to Satoko early on 3.Rena not having a major break down about the curse?(this one I don’t remember much) But I’m super curious about how this arc plays out. I’m hoping I enjoy it because honestly Satoko is my least favorite character so her arc bored me majority of the time. |
Nov 26, 2020 6:38 PM
#103
Great episode, here we go Tataridamashi. I think for me Tatarigoroshi-hen in the OG anime was the heaviest arc next to Meakishi-hen. So, I am really looking forward to see how Tataridamashi goes. And it's good to see our guy Irie with the new art style. I wonder if they're going to do Himatsubushi-hen after this arc or they'll go straight to the answer arcs. Well, whatever it may be I will love it. First time Satoshi has been mentioned though, he wasn't mentioned at all in the previous arcs, I wonder if that will be important. |
Nov 26, 2020 7:04 PM
#104
Nov 26, 2020 7:32 PM
#105
Tsukumo_Yuuma said: blobbybobby said: Tsukumo_Yuuma said: Shion with Satoko was so cute Since Shion loves Satoko in this fragment, maybe we'll get something like Tsukiotoshi-hen (Keiichi kills Teppei with help from Shion and Rena) but probably without Rena this time. I would be interested to see how that would play out. Actually after thinking about it, it could very possibly happen. They changed the scene where Keiichi go to wash the dishes and meet Shion there and then hears about Satoshi from her (she was creepy in that scene) but now she believes Satoshi will return and is waiting for him while taking care of Satoko, so she's okay for now. If she's not going to kill Teppei (or kill him with Keiichi) then at least she'll have a bigger role this time unlike Tatarigoroshi. in this ep Keiichi hears about what happened to Satoshi from the other kids instead of Shion. Also the fact that she says that she will join in on the promise Keiichi made to Irie could be a possible hint. Shion is best girl so I hope so too. |
Nov 26, 2020 7:40 PM
#106
SATOKO!!! :'( My favourite character's arc is finally beginning! This arc is going to be a hard one to watch. I feel bad for the first-time viewers, since the pacing of the story means we won't get to Minagoroshi-hen until another season is announced. However, I actually really liked the added scenes they put like Satoko and Keiichi shopping and walking home together... They really drive home the bit where Satoko feels like Keiichi fills the void that Satoshi left. Can't wait to see this arc unfold again! |
herricklukNov 26, 2020 8:04 PM
Nov 26, 2020 7:41 PM
#107
this is the "yubi yubi" arc right? i don't think i'm ready |
Nov 26, 2020 7:45 PM
#108
5/5 episode again from me like usual. This was majority slice of life but I loved every second of it. Satoko is amazing and I lowkey like Teppei's new design in Gou. It fits really good with him. Also I'm glad they finally mentioned Satoshi's name. It felt weird that they haven't mentioned it up to this point. |
Nov 26, 2020 8:01 PM
#109
katsu044 said: this is the "yubi yubi" arc right? i don't think i'm ready No thats a different arc. |
Nov 26, 2020 8:18 PM
#110
ssjokg said: katsu044 said: this is the "yubi yubi" arc right? i don't think i'm ready No thats a different arc. i see that's a relief but i guess i'm still not ready for this arc then lol |
Nov 26, 2020 8:31 PM
#111
Satoko is being sexually abused by her uncle, isn't she? Goddamn, can someone give me a fucking bat, please? Overall, it was a very decent episode. Wasn't boring as the first episodes from the previous arcs since this one provided more info about the characters' backgrounds and personally speaking, the idea of making Keiichi and Satoko get closer by having them forming a sort of "brother-sister" bond is pretty nice. The lolicon jokes were kinda cringey tho. Especially considering how the episode concluded. |
Nov 26, 2020 9:32 PM
#112
We're back! So i guess this is Satoko's arc, and that ending oh boy...that ending doesn't give me any positive vibes man, especially after watching the ED again :/ Indeed it was a great episode, plus we got a lot of info about Rika and Satoko, i feel bad for them. After watching Made in Abyss's movie this week, i do hope this won't go the direction i think it's going, i've had enough this week already. Been loving this remake tbh, and Keiichi seems to get better every time he comes back. Rena on the other hand worries me the most... But if you think about it, that makes sense, Satoko's parents are everyone's enemy basically... |
Nov 26, 2020 9:47 PM
#113
Fun ep in general At the end tho I can see some trouble happening |
Nov 26, 2020 11:33 PM
#114
I feel like the animation improved in this ep , or maybe it's just me |
Nov 27, 2020 12:21 AM
#115
so it's the Satoko route this time. I wonder how they would animate it this time? looking forward to next week. |
Nov 27, 2020 2:20 AM
#116
Irie is a pedophile. I didn't remember that when I watched the first show in high school but now that I'm older, it's more apparent and weird. Anyway, this is the start of the satoko arc, an arc that was really dark and interesting in the original, and hopefully will continue to be that way in this show. |
AlfonseNov 27, 2020 2:27 AM
Nov 27, 2020 2:57 AM
#117
Oh man, are we about to see Ryukishi's interpretation of Tsukiotoshi-hen? Cause its looking likely this is gonna be Tsukiotoshi-hen. |
Nov 27, 2020 3:04 AM
#118
ssjokg said: rsc-pl said: rubybestgirl said: ssjokg said: Big Shister is even worse....it amazes me that fan translators were doing a better job than people that get paid. rsc-pl said: Higurashi subs are not even that bad if you compare to other shit released by funimation in this and previous seasons. I could understand if like the VN had a precedent for using that but I guess not. It's just so awkward i had to do a double take. Even the translation on Hidive for the original series leaves it intact as Nii-nii. And it's just gonna get worse bc we all know Satoko's gonna be saying it more That's why I'm using fansubs though. Just saying, these subs are not really that bad if you compare it to anything done by aniplex or almost all other series done by funi (I'm not even mentioning netflix because it's an ultimate abomination). Wait, fansubs are still a think for airing shows? More like fan edits, but still many of them are saving me a lot of cringe. ssjokg said: Gar_Logan said: NoviSun said: Actually it is a fairly medium sized deal to me. Part of the reason I watch anime is to get a taste of another culture and world. How would you feel if the used the same argument to replace Satako with Judy or maybe Hinamizawa with East Bumblefck or Tokyo with New York or Manila. There’s no stopping where this line of reasoning goes. I get what you are saying, but the goal of Funimation I assume is to have as many people be able to access this anime without needing to know or understand any of the culturally specific aspects of the Japanese language. It's kind of the trend of the industry. Isnt that kinda...racist? Can Americans stop ruining things for once? More like culturephobic. NoviSun said: Actually it is a fairly medium sized deal to me. Part of the reason I watch anime is to get a taste of another culture and world. How would you feel if the used the same argument to replace Satako with Judy or maybe Hinamizawa with East Bumblefck or Tokyo with New York or Manila. There’s no stopping where this line of reasoning goes. This so much. It's just unnecessary immersion breaking with literally 0 gain. At least most American manga publishers aren't doing shit like this. ssjokg said: Frankly the reasoning is retarded. I watched the OG Higurashi in 2009 when all japanese words still sounded the same to me and I could tell that ni-ni was Satoko's baby way of saying big brother. It wasnt rocket science in japanese. So either I am really intelligent or that person must get off her high horse and stop acting as if viewers are fucking retarded, asking for internet rewards for her "hard work". In the adult world it doesnt matter how hard you worked if the final product is shit. And nii nii and nee nee arent the only bullshit translations. Why are there so many liberal, meme like translations? Actually it's not just this. It's a straight butchering and just pure retardness. >Q: Why does Satoko call Satoshi 'Nii Nii'? >A: 'Nii' (as in 'nii-san' and such) means brother. But besides this, "nii nii" is also the name for another species of cicada, much like the 'higurashi' in the title. So if Keiichi is a higurashi cicada, Satoshi is a 'nii nii' cicada. (Source: https://very-bad-end.dreamwidth.org/2539.html) https://metropolisjapan.com/the-screaming-insects-of-summer/ |
rsc-plNov 27, 2020 3:54 AM
Dub = fake crap. Always. |
Nov 27, 2020 3:24 AM
#119
Nov 27, 2020 3:40 AM
#120
rsc-pl said: ssjokg said: rsc-pl said: rubybestgirl said: ssjokg said: Big Shister is even worse....it amazes me that fan translators were doing a better job than people that get paid. rsc-pl said: Higurashi subs are not even that bad if you compare to other shit released by funimation in this and previous seasons. I could understand if like the VN had a precedent for using that but I guess not. It's just so awkward i had to do a double take. Even the translation on Hidive for the original series leaves it intact as Nii-nii. And it's just gonna get worse bc we all know Satoko's gonna be saying it more That's why I'm using fansubs though. Just saying, these subs are not really that bad if you compare it to anything done by aniplex or almost all other series done by funi (I'm not even mentioning netflix because it's an ultimate abomination). Wait, fansubs are still a think for airing shows? More like fan edits, but still many of them are saving me a lot of cringe. ssjokg said: Gar_Logan said: NoviSun said: Actually it is a fairly medium sized deal to me. Part of the reason I watch anime is to get a taste of another culture and world. How would you feel if the used the same argument to replace Satako with Judy or maybe Hinamizawa with East Bumblefck or Tokyo with New York or Manila. There’s no stopping where this line of reasoning goes. I get what you are saying, but the goal of Funimation I assume is to have as many people be able to access this anime without needing to know or understand any of the culturally specific aspects of the Japanese language. It's kind of the trend of the industry. Isnt that kinda...racist? Can Americans stop ruining things for once? More like culturephobic. NoviSun said: Actually it is a fairly medium sized deal to me. Part of the reason I watch anime is to get a taste of another culture and world. How would you feel if the used the same argument to replace Satako with Judy or maybe Hinamizawa with East Bumblefck or Tokyo with New York or Manila. There’s no stopping where this line of reasoning goes. This so much. It's just unnecessary immersion breaking with literally 0 gain. At least most American manga publishers aren't doing shit like this. ssjokg said: Frankly the reasoning is retarded. I watched the OG Higurashi in 2009 when all japanese words still sounded the same to me and I could tell that ni-ni was Satoko's baby way of saying big brother. It wasnt rocket science in japanese. So either I am really intelligent or that person must get off her high horse and stop acting as if viewers are fucking retarded, asking for internet rewards for her "hard work". In the adult world it doesnt matter how hard you worked if the final product is shit. And nii nii and nee nee arent the only bullshit translations. Why are there so many liberal, meme like translations? Actually it's not just this. It's straight butchering and just pure retardness. >Q: Why does Satoko call Satoshi 'Nii Nii'? >A: 'Nii' (as in 'nii-san' and such) means brother. But besides this, "nii nii" is also the name for another species of cicada, much like the 'higurashi' in the title. So if Keiichi is a higurashi cicada, Satoshi is a 'nii nii' cicada. (Source: https://very-bad-end.dreamwidth.org/2539.html) https://metropolisjapan.com/the-screaming-insects-of-summer/ That was a nice fun fact. Guess something good came out of this bullshit. Btw, do the fan edits have a group name? |
Nov 27, 2020 4:54 AM
#121
The Nii Nii aspect of the sun was terrible yeah. |
Nov 27, 2020 5:02 AM
#122
Keichii is a moron i would bang this cute lolies everyday if i was him! |
Nov 27, 2020 5:41 AM
#123
Oh boy, and here I thought we'll manage without the child abuse section. Hawaii shirt man - he comes even when no one calls him. Anyway, good to know Satoko can handle the bat pretty well. Maybe in this part we'll see the actual uncle beatdown. As for the whole episode, lots of cute things but not too much actual info for now. Gotta wait till next episode. |
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Nov 27, 2020 6:22 AM
#124
rsc-pl said: Actually it's not just this. It's a straight butchering and just pure retardness. >Q: Why does Satoko call Satoshi 'Nii Nii'? >A: 'Nii' (as in 'nii-san' and such) means brother. But besides this, "nii nii" is also the name for another species of cicada, much like the 'higurashi' in the title. So if Keiichi is a higurashi cicada, Satoshi is a 'nii nii' cicada. (Source: https://very-bad-end.dreamwidth.org/2539.html) https://metropolisjapan.com/the-screaming-insects-of-summer/ Wow, that's a really nice fun fact. You should comment that on her wall of tweets, so many people kept telling her Nii-Nii is actually a nickname so it shouldn't be translated but she just said no it's not. |
Nov 27, 2020 6:25 AM
#125
Reyliix said: I feel like the animation improved in this ep , or maybe it's just me It was always good imo, i think they make the SoL episodes really good in this anime (episode 5&6 was also great). |
Nov 27, 2020 6:36 AM
#126
Tsukumo_Yuuma said: rsc-pl said: Actually it's not just this. It's a straight butchering and just pure retardness. >Q: Why does Satoko call Satoshi 'Nii Nii'? >A: 'Nii' (as in 'nii-san' and such) means brother. But besides this, "nii nii" is also the name for another species of cicada, much like the 'higurashi' in the title. So if Keiichi is a higurashi cicada, Satoshi is a 'nii nii' cicada. (Source: https://very-bad-end.dreamwidth.org/2539.html) https://metropolisjapan.com/the-screaming-insects-of-summer/ Wow, that's a really nice fun fact. You should comment that on her wall of tweets, so many people kept telling her Nii-Nii is actually a nickname so it shouldn't be translated but she just said no it's not. This will be just another "culture difference" that will be ignored because Americans apparently are too dumb to understand both culture and subtlety . I am actually surprised they havent lost their minds with the fact that every kid of every age shares the same classroom. |
ssjokgNov 27, 2020 6:48 AM
Nov 27, 2020 6:53 AM
#127
Tsukumo_Yuuma said: rsc-pl said: Actually it's not just this. It's a straight butchering and just pure retardness. >Q: Why does Satoko call Satoshi 'Nii Nii'? >A: 'Nii' (as in 'nii-san' and such) means brother. But besides this, "nii nii" is also the name for another species of cicada, much like the 'higurashi' in the title. So if Keiichi is a higurashi cicada, Satoshi is a 'nii nii' cicada. (Source: https://very-bad-end.dreamwidth.org/2539.html) https://metropolisjapan.com/the-screaming-insects-of-summer/ Wow, that's a really nice fun fact. You should comment that on her wall of tweets, so many people kept telling her Nii-Nii is actually a nickname so it shouldn't be translated but she just said no it's not. Nah, I'm not gonna argue with twitter plebians. It was mentioned few times on /a/ yesterday and she's following /a/ (she even made compilation of comments from /a/, of course for "meme" purposes). I don't even have a twitter account. |
rsc-plNov 27, 2020 6:57 AM
Dub = fake crap. Always. |
Nov 27, 2020 7:03 AM
#128
rsc-pl said: Tsukumo_Yuuma said: rsc-pl said: Actually it's not just this. It's a straight butchering and just pure retardness. >Q: Why does Satoko call Satoshi 'Nii Nii'? >A: 'Nii' (as in 'nii-san' and such) means brother. But besides this, "nii nii" is also the name for another species of cicada, much like the 'higurashi' in the title. So if Keiichi is a higurashi cicada, Satoshi is a 'nii nii' cicada. (Source: https://very-bad-end.dreamwidth.org/2539.html) https://metropolisjapan.com/the-screaming-insects-of-summer/ Wow, that's a really nice fun fact. You should comment that on her wall of tweets, so many people kept telling her Nii-Nii is actually a nickname so it shouldn't be translated but she just said no it's not. Nah, I'm not gonna argue with twitter plebians. It was mentioned few times on /a/ yesterday and she's following /a/ (she even made compilation of comments from /a/, of course for "meme" purposes). I don't even have a twitter account. Well there would be no point in doing it anyway. She is absolutely in the right and people actually praise her for her garbage localizations and translations. |
Nov 27, 2020 7:23 AM
#129
While we're on the topic of the weird translation, i didn't like how she did this scene It's supposed to be " *I* would get her to call *me* "Master" ~~~ " because Shion was talking as if she was Irie, and that's why Keiichi thought Irie said that and got surprised and Irie said i didn't say anything, why would they act like that if what they heard was " *you* would ~~" Like what Ani-One did in their translation |
Tsukumo_YuumaNov 27, 2020 7:29 AM
Nov 27, 2020 7:38 AM
#130
My God, you people just can't shut up about a language you don't speak. The nii nii part was translated fine and still delivered what it should means, even though I would personally prefer big bro myself. It is supposed to be a very childlike, toddler level of nickname that fits Satoko's behaviors around Satoshi and is the main reason why she quickly hide it when she accidentally used it. So the translator was only conveying the same level of meaning when translating it to big brudder. "It sounds cringe" Yes, that's obviously what it should sounds like. No child above 5 would use it, but Satoko still does and it shows her side of immaturity. Which again, the intended purpose of said translation. "It's a nickname so don't translate it" While possible, the nickname itself does derive from actual word which is onii(お兄) and do have a meaning. Leaving it alone would cause confusion, even if all weebs could understand it. "The nickname is meant to be type of a cicada." Yes, a cicada by that name do exist called niinii zemi or ニイニイゼミ. Which I'm sure was supposed to be only as reference and nothing else. And Keiichi's does not have any relation to said reference, Satoko's only seeing a bit of Satoshi in him and decided to give him the nickname. Also do I need to point out that FAQ is a fan-made? It's an interesting fact, yes, but it's not the creator's word so it doesn't hold much value. You people are just nitpicking because you don't like it, even though translation-wise it was reasonable. Also even if you don't like it, translation do exist to convey stuff from another language to something that's easily understandable for the target audience no matter who they are. So she's just doing her job here. And yes, I do know bad translation exists in official media but this is not one of them so don't even use that excuse here. I'm not even gonna bother reading any more of this thread because I'm sure it's gonna come back to complaining again. |
Nov 27, 2020 8:00 AM
#131
LockeGran said: My God, you people just can't shut up about a language you don't speak. The nii nii part was translated fine and still delivered what it should means, even though I would personally prefer big bro myself. It is supposed to be a very childlike, toddler level of nickname that fits Satoko's behaviors around Satoshi and is the main reason why she quickly hide it when she accidentally used it. So the translator was only conveying the same level of meaning when translating it to big brudder. "It sounds cringe" Yes, that's obviously what it should sounds like. No child above 5 would use it, but Satoko still does and it shows her side of immaturity. Which again, the intended purpose of said translation. "It's a nickname so don't translate it" While possible, the nickname itself does derive from actual word which is onii(お兄) and do have a meaning. Leaving it alone would cause confusion, even if all weebs could understand it. "The nickname is meant to be type of a cicada." Yes, a cicada by that name do exist called niinii zemi or ニイニイゼミ. Which I'm sure was supposed to be only as reference and nothing else. And Keiichi's does not have any relation to said reference, Satoko's only seeing a bit of Satoshi in him and decided to give him the nickname. Also do I need to point out that FAQ is a fan-made? It's an interesting fact, yes, but it's not the creator's word so it doesn't hold much value. You people are just nitpicking because you don't like it, even though translation-wise it was reasonable. Also even if you don't like it, translation do exist to convey stuff from another language to something that's easily understandable for the target audience no matter who they are. So she's just doing her job here. And yes, I do know bad translation exists in official media but this is not one of them so don't even use that excuse here. I'm not even gonna bother reading any more of this thread because I'm sure it's gonna come back to complaining again. Oh fuck off. If it was just nii nii we could possible ignore it even if it breaks immersion. But it isnt. Even from the trailers the translation is many times not only wrong in parts, it ends up as entire different lines. How does "You who have read this" turn to "You are the one that invited all this"? Nii Nii isnt the reason that we are mad.It is the latest straw. There were better ways to translate nii nii and nee nee without making viewers do double takes and break immersion. This is definitely a case of bad translations where the translator focuses on the minor complains to avoid the worst. It is easy to blame "weebs" and the old fans for not liking a single localization than admit that she was wrong many times. |
ssjokgNov 27, 2020 9:12 AM
Nov 27, 2020 8:37 AM
#132
LockeGran said: My God, you people just can't shut up How about you just fuck off? The whole purpose of forum is to discuss. I'm not even gonna bother reading any more of this thread because I'm sure it's gonna come back to complaining again. Then what was the purpose of your rant? Posts: 9 Oh, I get it. |
rsc-plNov 27, 2020 8:53 AM
Dub = fake crap. Always. |
Nov 27, 2020 9:06 AM
#133
Nov 27, 2020 9:08 AM
#134
I'm interested how this arc goes as satako's arc wasn't my favorite |
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Nov 27, 2020 2:28 PM
#135
Ugh, I hate Teppei so much ._. I really hope for one of these two things: 1. Keiichi & Shion kill him together (maybe even with Irie's help) 2. Satoko snaps and kills him with her brothers bat Option two would be the most satisfying twist ever, but I'd also love to see option one. Rika being passive agressive is really entertaining :D I'm also glad Satoshi was mentioned after all. I was kinda afraid he just didn't exist in this season. Satoko was acting weird last arc, but I think my suspicion will be gone after this one (well, let's see how things develop ig). The only complaint I have is the erasure/lack of Rena's scenes - kinda weird they removed her breakdown :x The animation and art style improved this episode imo. It was really consistent and didn't have many "ugly" shots. The direction was also better & the scene with Rena and Mion near the end was actually eerie :) I still think that this shouldn't be watched by newcomers btw - it's definitely way more enjoyable as a sequel. I'm kinda confused as to why the score keeps dropping tho. |
StormxNightmareNov 27, 2020 2:39 PM
There's no possible way you can steal my heart I want to drown in this sweet Melancholy |
Nov 27, 2020 2:31 PM
#136
Chapter 3 starts, and already enjoying this more than the previous chapter, let's see how'll this go! Sadly Irie sounds so much older this time around, he gives off a completely different feeling about him :( I'm still sticking with my "Satoko is 'The Culprit'" theory, so I'm expecting her to do something rowdy on this chapter again. And old watchers should know what that might be :> Devil_Slayer said: Umm A abusive drug-addicted uncle with a little girl alone in the house? Do I need to say more? No way you don't know what I getting at here if you been around Higu fandom for even few months. It was always a popular theory back in episode 3 before episode 6 kinda crushed that idea Some images of them still give the creep though. ssjokg said: Never got the sexual abuse vibe. Dont ask me why. What I dont get is how you can she an older girl, even if it is Satoko, undoing a ribbon and assume anything. She could be older, hard to tell from the picture, but I'm pretty sure that's supposed to be Satoko, atleast made like that we should assume that. What comes to the above mentioned theory. It was always even "hinted" towards in the tips section of the VN Probably why it became such popular theory, with all the other points to tie together with. |
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Nov 27, 2020 2:34 PM
#137
Hulio said: Chapter 3 starts, and already enjoying this more than the previous chapter, let's see how'll this go! Sadly Irie sounds so much older this time around, he gives off a completely different feeling about him :( I'm still sticking with my "Satoko is 'The Culprit'" theory, so I'm expecting her to do something rowdy on this chapter again. And old watchers should know what that might be :> Devil_Slayer said: Umm A abusive drug-addicted uncle with a little girl alone in the house? Do I need to say more? No way you don't know what I getting at here if you been around Higu fandom for even few months. It was always a popular theory back in episode 3 before episode 6 kinda crushed that idea Some images of them still give the creep though. ssjokg said: Never got the sexual abuse vibe. Dont ask me why. What I dont get is how you can she an older girl, even if it is Satoko, undoing a ribbon and assume anything. She could be older, hard to tell from the picture, but I'm pretty sure that's supposed to be Satoko, atleast made like that we should assume that. What comes to the above mentioned theory. It was always even "hinted" towards in the tips section of the VN Probably why it became such popular theory, with all the other points to tie together with. I only think it is her because Ryuukishi said something about an older Satoko. What are those numbers? |
Nov 27, 2020 3:13 PM
#138
ssjokg said: Hulio said: Chapter 3 starts, and already enjoying this more than the previous chapter, let's see how'll this go! Sadly Irie sounds so much older this time around, he gives off a completely different feeling about him :( I'm still sticking with my "Satoko is 'The Culprit'" theory, so I'm expecting her to do something rowdy on this chapter again. And old watchers should know what that might be :> Devil_Slayer said: Umm A abusive drug-addicted uncle with a little girl alone in the house? Do I need to say more? No way you don't know what I getting at here if you been around Higu fandom for even few months. It was always a popular theory back in episode 3 before episode 6 kinda crushed that idea Some images of them still give the creep though. ssjokg said: Never got the sexual abuse vibe. Dont ask me why. What I dont get is how you can she an older girl, even if it is Satoko, undoing a ribbon and assume anything. She could be older, hard to tell from the picture, but I'm pretty sure that's supposed to be Satoko, atleast made like that we should assume that. What comes to the above mentioned theory. It was always even "hinted" towards in the tips section of the VN Probably why it became such popular theory, with all the other points to tie together with. I only think it is her because Ryuukishi said something about an older Satoko. What are those numbers? It's just numbers from the "Statistics from the Ministry of Health and Welfare" Hint on the 3rd chapter Tips section. It was telling about the reason/cases of child-abuse/social welfare problems etc, I don't quite have the words of the bureaucrazy in English. So mentioning those and showing Satoko on the background was kinda like a "red herring" hint towards such activity. I saw the Deen anime first and I don't really remember anymore how I took everything I saw, but had I read the VN first, there's no doubt this theory wouldn't have crossed my mind. I remember it subtly "hinting" towards this nasty stuff several times. The Deen anime definitely toned this chapter down in a sense (or just chose a more graphic route), and I'm 100% certain this Passione version will be toned down even further. |
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Nov 27, 2020 3:16 PM
#139
Hulio said: It's just numbers from the "Statistics from the Ministry of Health and Welfare" Hint on the 3rd chapter Tips section. It was telling about the reason/cases of child-abuse/social welfare problems etc, I don't quite have the words of the bureaucrazy in English. So mentioning those and showing Satoko on the background was kinda like a "red herring" hint towards such activity. I saw the Deen anime first and I don't really remember anymore how I took everything I saw, but had I read the VN first, there's no doubt this theory wouldn't have crossed my mind. I remember it subtly "hinting" towards this nasty stuff several times. The Deen anime definitely toned this chapter down in a sense (or just chose a more graphic route), and I'm 100% certain this Passione version will be toned down even further. If they are numbers for all cases I dont see how it can be used for making theories for Satoko. I am not saying that Teppei is an anglel or that rape in general never crossed his mind. I just dont think it happened with Satoko. |
Nov 27, 2020 3:45 PM
#140
ssjokg said: Hulio said: It's just numbers from the "Statistics from the Ministry of Health and Welfare" Hint on the 3rd chapter Tips section. It was telling about the reason/cases of child-abuse/social welfare problems etc, I don't quite have the words of the bureaucrazy in English. So mentioning those and showing Satoko on the background was kinda like a "red herring" hint towards such activity. I saw the Deen anime first and I don't really remember anymore how I took everything I saw, but had I read the VN first, there's no doubt this theory wouldn't have crossed my mind. I remember it subtly "hinting" towards this nasty stuff several times. The Deen anime definitely toned this chapter down in a sense (or just chose a more graphic route), and I'm 100% certain this Passione version will be toned down even further. If they are numbers for all cases I dont see how it can be used for making theories for Satoko. I am not saying that Teppei is an anglel or that rape in general never crossed his mind. I just dont think it happened with Satoko. Yeah I don't mean anything like that happened, just that it was there to make people think it could have. All it takes is for people to think X in order to start making the theories of it. And it was most deliberately placed in there for show, it even played this creepy SFX when it popped in. All I can say is that it was there for a purpose - for whatever Ryukishi wanted to aim with it. |
Intelligent gets through situations which wise avoids. |
Nov 27, 2020 3:51 PM
#141
ssjokg said: Hulio said: It's just numbers from the "Statistics from the Ministry of Health and Welfare" Hint on the 3rd chapter Tips section. It was telling about the reason/cases of child-abuse/social welfare problems etc, I don't quite have the words of the bureaucrazy in English. So mentioning those and showing Satoko on the background was kinda like a "red herring" hint towards such activity. I saw the Deen anime first and I don't really remember anymore how I took everything I saw, but had I read the VN first, there's no doubt this theory wouldn't have crossed my mind. I remember it subtly "hinting" towards this nasty stuff several times. The Deen anime definitely toned this chapter down in a sense (or just chose a more graphic route), and I'm 100% certain this Passione version will be toned down even further. If they are numbers for all cases I dont see how it can be used for making theories for Satoko. I am not saying that Teppei is an anglel or that rape in general never crossed his mind. I just dont think it happened with Satoko. I'm not sure if I read this in the Minagoroshi tips or somewhere else, but I remember Teppei was talking about how he could not take care of himself with Rina missing. Then he says something like "Satoko's mother was a beautiful woman, I should wait and see how Satoko will develop... but for now, she would have to serve him by cooking and cleaning"- The implication I got was: for now, Satoko is too young for his tastes, but if she grows up and is hot, then he's going to start raping her on top of everything else (the disgusting pig). But I don't see anybody else mention it, so I'm not sure if I'm making it up. |
Nov 27, 2020 4:01 PM
#142
I like how the woman who worked on the Funi subs says she's a fan of Higurashi (one of her first weeby gateways, according to her), and yet she pulled such a ridiculous translation of "Nii-Nii" and "Nee-Nee", including having lists her friends submitted to her. It's worth pointing out that even in the crappy Geneon dub they kept "Nii-Nii", she has no excuse for omitting it in the subs outside of saying it'll look bad in her beautiful subs. Tsukumo_Yuuma said: SHINOBI-03 said: The broccoli and cauliflower question was always thought to be hints of her being colorblind. I don't think it was confirmed if she has it, but her not knowing the difference between white and green made it safe to assume that. It's just a cute and funny thing and many children can't tell the differences between some vegetables so it's not unusual. A weird assumption tbh Satoshi can't tell the difference between broccoli and cauliflower, either, and he's 16 in 1982. It's heavily implied they're both colorblind. |
Nov 27, 2020 4:38 PM
#143
ssjokg said: Tsukumo_Yuuma said: rsc-pl said: Actually it's not just this. It's a straight butchering and just pure retardness. >Q: Why does Satoko call Satoshi 'Nii Nii'? >A: 'Nii' (as in 'nii-san' and such) means brother. But besides this, "nii nii" is also the name for another species of cicada, much like the 'higurashi' in the title. So if Keiichi is a higurashi cicada, Satoshi is a 'nii nii' cicada. (Source: https://very-bad-end.dreamwidth.org/2539.html) https://metropolisjapan.com/the-screaming-insects-of-summer/ Wow, that's a really nice fun fact. You should comment that on her wall of tweets, so many people kept telling her Nii-Nii is actually a nickname so it shouldn't be translated but she just said no it's not. This will be just another "culture difference" that will be ignored because Americans apparently are too dumb to understand both culture and subtlety . I am actually surprised they havent lost their minds with the fact that every kid of every age shares the same classroom. Lol, none of you (except the one person who posted it) even knew this tidbit. It was lost on you regardless of the localization. Get off your high horse. |
Nov 27, 2020 5:55 PM
#144
i think the arc started very well owo the whole episode is a stomach attack, so much food! this Kyousuke wants the full pack with Satoko, wants to adopt her, be his doctor, his baseball coach, his husband, something else? LOL |
Nov 27, 2020 6:25 PM
#145
Tsukumo_Yuuma said: LeaveSatokoAlone said: As someone who read the visual novel, the scene with Shion makes me extremely happy. At the end of the 5th arc she said she would NEVER make the same mistakes again and that if she had the chance to do it again, she would protect Satoko and look out for her. This also explains why the 2nd arc had to play out with Mion as the culprit instead of Shion. God, what a beautiful character arc. I'm really happy they didn't undo the lesson Shion learned. We still don't know what happened in the 2nd arc, most likely Shion at least killed the mayor and Oryou since Mion would never do it or have a reason to do so. We didn't have any scene that indicated that Shion is taking care of Satoko in Watadamashi-hen. I disagree. I think it was probably Mion that killed everyone in that last arc. Mion loves Keichi. The fact that she thinks people are trying to kill him is what drives her to act the way she did in Gou She was pretty much taking out everyone she perceived to be a threat to his safety.. Shion loves satoshi, that love is what triggered her to go crazy in the original This was a good start to this arc. Its one of my favorites and I cant wait to see what they do with it. |
Nov 27, 2020 6:32 PM
#146
Really cute and somewhat wholesome episode. Really liked it. Glad to see nothing bad happened, except for, you know, Satoko's uncle appearing. Been watching the old Hhigurashi so I am able to understand the new "adaptation" better. Not disappointed at all! Although, I really think that the scene where Keiichi arrives at the baseball game was better executed in the original Higurashi. |
Mess with waifu, lose your laifu |
Nov 27, 2020 6:34 PM
#147
clint87 said: Tsukumo_Yuuma said: LeaveSatokoAlone said: As someone who read the visual novel, the scene with Shion makes me extremely happy. At the end of the 5th arc she said she would NEVER make the same mistakes again and that if she had the chance to do it again, she would protect Satoko and look out for her. This also explains why the 2nd arc had to play out with Mion as the culprit instead of Shion. God, what a beautiful character arc. I'm really happy they didn't undo the lesson Shion learned. We still don't know what happened in the 2nd arc, most likely Shion at least killed the mayor and Oryou since Mion would never do it or have a reason to do so. We didn't have any scene that indicated that Shion is taking care of Satoko in Watadamashi-hen. I disagree. I think it was probably Mion that killed everyone in that last arc. Mion loves Keichi. The fact that she thinks people are trying to kill him is what drives her to act the way she did in Gou She was pretty much taking out everyone she perceived to be a threat to his safety.. Shion loves satoshi, that love is what triggered her to go crazy in the original yeah but why would Mion even think that Kimiyoshi or Oryo is dangerous? she knows everything about both of them and that they're not the reason for the "curse" unlike Shion who doesn't know anything about the situation and actually believed that the three families or Oryo is the ones making the curse happen (notice that "Mion" kept talking about the curse being the 3 families fault, that's not like her). So Mion doesn't have any reason to doubt her beloved grandma, if we assume that it was really Mion who met K1 in episode 4, then i will go with the theory that Shion killed the mayor and Oryo and imprisoned Mion, but then Mion got out (somehow) this time and killed Shion (accidentally maybe?). And the Mountain Dogs (Yamainu) are the ones who killed Rika and then killed Satoko and Mion (for some reason, idk why would they do that). |
Nov 27, 2020 7:13 PM
#148
random_weirdo said: ssjokg said: Hulio said: It's just numbers from the "Statistics from the Ministry of Health and Welfare" Hint on the 3rd chapter Tips section. It was telling about the reason/cases of child-abuse/social welfare problems etc, I don't quite have the words of the bureaucrazy in English. So mentioning those and showing Satoko on the background was kinda like a "red herring" hint towards such activity. I saw the Deen anime first and I don't really remember anymore how I took everything I saw, but had I read the VN first, there's no doubt this theory wouldn't have crossed my mind. I remember it subtly "hinting" towards this nasty stuff several times. The Deen anime definitely toned this chapter down in a sense (or just chose a more graphic route), and I'm 100% certain this Passione version will be toned down even further. If they are numbers for all cases I dont see how it can be used for making theories for Satoko. I am not saying that Teppei is an anglel or that rape in general never crossed his mind. I just dont think it happened with Satoko. I'm not sure if I read this in the Minagoroshi tips or somewhere else, but I remember Teppei was talking about how he could not take care of himself with Rina missing. Then he says something like "Satoko's mother was a beautiful woman, I should wait and see how Satoko will develop... but for now, she would have to serve him by cooking and cleaning"- The implication I got was: for now, Satoko is too young for his tastes, but if she grows up and is hot, then he's going to start raping her on top of everything else (the disgusting pig). But I don't see anybody else mention it, so I'm not sure if I'm making it up. You're remembering correctly. It's the tip "Wet Blanket." Minagoroshi-hen said: As Satoko is still a little kid, she can't satisfy him sexually, but he can at least make her wash his back in the bath. Satoko's dead mother used to be a pretty woman... Satoko might grow up to become a pretty lady herself in about four or five years... Teppei headed back to Hinamizawa with those indecent thoughts in his head. |
Nov 27, 2020 7:21 PM
#149
SVTFOE4EVR said: Really cute and somewhat wholesome episode. Really liked it. Glad to see nothing bad happened, except for, you know, Satoko's uncle appearing. Been watching the old Hhigurashi so I am able to understand the new "adaptation" better. Not disappointed at all! Although, I really think that the scene where Keiichi arrives at the baseball game was better executed in the original Higurashi. I thought so too. I don't know, but the way in which Keiichi jumped into the field wielding his club, everybody gaped at him and then Satoko slowly approached him and asked him pokerfaced why he brought a golf club to a baseball match... it cracked me up. Here, it was kind of bleh. The rest of the episode was fine, though. Especially loved the addition of a second day of Keiichi-Satoko quality time. |
Nov 27, 2020 7:24 PM
#150
InfiniteDiscs said: random_weirdo said: ssjokg said: Hulio said: It's just numbers from the "Statistics from the Ministry of Health and Welfare" Hint on the 3rd chapter Tips section. It was telling about the reason/cases of child-abuse/social welfare problems etc, I don't quite have the words of the bureaucrazy in English. So mentioning those and showing Satoko on the background was kinda like a "red herring" hint towards such activity. I saw the Deen anime first and I don't really remember anymore how I took everything I saw, but had I read the VN first, there's no doubt this theory wouldn't have crossed my mind. I remember it subtly "hinting" towards this nasty stuff several times. The Deen anime definitely toned this chapter down in a sense (or just chose a more graphic route), and I'm 100% certain this Passione version will be toned down even further. If they are numbers for all cases I dont see how it can be used for making theories for Satoko. I am not saying that Teppei is an anglel or that rape in general never crossed his mind. I just dont think it happened with Satoko. I'm not sure if I read this in the Minagoroshi tips or somewhere else, but I remember Teppei was talking about how he could not take care of himself with Rina missing. Then he says something like "Satoko's mother was a beautiful woman, I should wait and see how Satoko will develop... but for now, she would have to serve him by cooking and cleaning"- The implication I got was: for now, Satoko is too young for his tastes, but if she grows up and is hot, then he's going to start raping her on top of everything else (the disgusting pig). But I don't see anybody else mention it, so I'm not sure if I'm making it up. You're remembering correctly. It's the tip "Wet Blanket." Minagoroshi-hen said: As Satoko is still a little kid, she can't satisfy him sexually, but he can at least make her wash his back in the bath. Satoko's dead mother used to be a pretty woman... Satoko might grow up to become a pretty lady herself in about four or five years... Teppei headed back to Hinamizawa with those indecent thoughts in his head. THANK YOU! I thought it was cooking and cleaning instead of washing his back... it's disgusting, but at least it rules out the possibility of sexual abuse happening now (thankfully... this didn't need to get any darker). |
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