| It's less about the classes of the characters and more about the personalities of the characters or vibes of the worlds. A large percentage of the main characters in isekai are selfish or overpowered NEETs who want a girlfriend. The settings really aren't often expanded upon in ways that make them unique from other basic fantasy worlds. Not to say all isekai are the same, but the genre is certainly oversaturated with a lot of things that FEEL the same. |
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| The vast majority of isekai protagonists are overpowered wish fulfillment vehicles with no real unique personality traits that warp the plots around them to serve the protagonists and make them more awesome. In spite of all the interesting settings and premises that are introduced, few isekai's actually explore them and instead take the easy route of dickriding the main characters. I know that technically any genre can do this, but isekai's seem to be especially guilty. |
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
| "Why people believe that "all isekai are the same"?" Because statistically speaking most of the isekai is the same. Of course there are exceptions but when something becomes popular and mass produced you are guaranteed to have to shovel through more trash to find the good stuff. |
| A lot of isekai are really generic and have the same cookie cutter characters that have been done to death |
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| Isekai is really fun to watch. I expect or hope for them to not follow the harem route at very least, I found myself surprised with each one that I've seen, though rare exception can be made for isekai cheat magician. This anime should be rated or tagged as kids anime. It's easy for haters to say isekai this or that because they can't construct a proper argument for any series that they wanted to with their limited something something. |
| Most of the good isekais people refer to are still a minority in the piles of trash that's we get, last season had like 5 isekais but only 1 or 2 were memorable So you'll always get people saying how its all garbage when its clearly not all garbage |
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Hold up here. Kirito not supposed to be in that list  |
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| Lol why is kirito there. SAO is a game not an isekai series |
  Wandering Witch is the best light novel ever! |
| Because the basic premise is the same most of the time. Loser otaku gets transported into another world, somehow ends up having to save said world. Featuring dozens of girls wanting his dick. For a genre with basically unlimited choices, they always end up going for the same old shtick. Can't really blame them for it either because it brings in the cash. |
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| Cuz most of anime fans are extremely superficial and can't tell the difference between a show premise and the actual show |
| It's not about how the genre is bad. It's about how it is being abused by greedy/lazy/talentless/... authors. It would be ok if it had soul, but right now it's just a chewing gum focused on pandering otaku jerks with waifus, harems and self-insertion |
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| mentioning kirito and yet forgetting shiroe that's sad.. |
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| I'd say it's because the vast majority of them are boring and lazy. They are made because isekai is a bankable trend. Whether or not the creators (usually light novel authors) put any effort into the story, the setting, the characters are seen as secondary to "this will make us money" and I think most people can tell within the first five minutes of the first episode whether or not that show has that extra thought put into it. Right now, I don't watch isekai anymore on principle. Why would I willingly subject myself to a show that I know I'm going to hate just from glancing at the trailer (or the poster)? |
| Dude, I haven't even seen that many Isekai and they were all fairly different with some shared elements but nowhere near "the same". People are really exaggerating. A lot of them are enjoyable too. Ofc there are gonna be copycats. |
| Like 90% of them are the same with minor differences. The world? Viking/Medieval setting. Waifus? Big tiddied blonde elves. Power? EXTREMELY OP. |
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| Its generalized. I also say "i dont like A-1 Pictures" even tho i think some of their shows are decent, its just thats these are the minority. Same goes for Isekai, most of them are the same generic garbage. Cut our characters who all have the same personality, weak worldbuilding etc. Its not every one of them, there are some decent ones but its just generalized. Most people and i who dislike many Isekai dont criticize them for literally being the same but for having similar structure with very superficial stuff going on. |
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| Ok, not all isekai are the same. But all Isekais that aren't Konosuba are the same. |
| heh. |
| Because they all often share the same like 2 settings. The characters all often share the same character designs and the MC's can't be differentiated that much from one another. |
Zeroflamez said: Because they all often share the same like 2 settings. The characters all often share the same character designs and the MC's can't be differentiated that much from one another. Are you serious?  [img]https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Frandomc.net%2Fimage%2FTensei%2520shitara%2520Slime%2520Datta%2520Ken%2FTensei%2520shitara%2520Slime%2520Datta%2520Ken%2520-%252002%2520-%2520Large%252005.jpg&f=1&nofb=1[/img[ Do the Elder Lich necromancer and the Slime has something in common on character design? |
| Isekais have worse power fantasies than battle shounens. In shounens they atleast need to train or something to get some powers. In isekai shows they just hand the MC some insane power-up at start and then the rest of the series is monologue inside MC's mind about how broken this ability is and how he can stomp lvl 100 Demon Lords with it, bla bla bla. Oh, and don't forget big-tiddy waifus and loli maids; they make up the other half of a generic isekai. I don't hate them but I have no interest in them whatsoever. Most of the isekai I have tried watching had like one or two original ideas and the rest was copy and paste. Also, the generic JRPG world setting is just making it even harder to remember which is which. |
L0rdV1ct0r said: Zeroflamez said: Because they all often share the same like 2 settings. The characters all often share the same character designs and the MC's can't be differentiated that much from one another. Are you serious? [img]https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Frandomc.net%2Fimage%2FTensei%2520shitara%2520Slime%2520Datta%2520Ken%2FTensei%2520shitara%2520Slime%2520Datta%2520Ken%2520-%252002%2520-%2520Large%252005.jpg&f=1&nofb=1[/img[ Do the Elder Lich necromancer and the Slime has something in common on character design? God dammit stop cherrypicking. There are more Isekai that look the same than Isekai that look different. |
L0rdV1ct0r said: Because the people who say that are the ones who don't actually watch them.Why people believe that "all isekai are the same"? You see this everywhere in life, not just in anime. And what they actually mean is that to them it looks the same. To someone who doesn't watch magical girl series, all magical girl series are the same. To someone who doesn't watch anime, all anime is the same. To someone who doesn't doesn't play video games, all video games are the same. To someone who doesn't listen to classical music, all classical music is the same. To someone who doesn't dabble in old electronics, all old electronics are the same. To someone who doesn't know algebra, all algebraic expressions (including those involving calculus, lol) are the same. To someone who doesn't know how policymaking works, all politicians are the same. If these people took the time to actually learn about the field they're describing, they'd realize that there are a number of meaningful differences between items in the field. But of course, this is the internet, so people are just gonna rattle off their first impressions. And more often than not they're based on just looking at some pictures and hearing some hearsay, especially that of other people who have the same opinion as they do. |
GlennMagusHarveyFeb 27, 2020 9:03 AM
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| But they all have like almost the exact same generic Tolkien esq fantasy mmorpg setting |
| his is simple, because the protagonist enters /reincarnated / summoned into another world and is trapped in it |
AlexcennaFeb 27, 2020 9:58 AM
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| The real problem is that they have the same copied world. So even if an isekai is really good, it still feels ... RPG, not the real thing. Btw is still amazes me that there is no Harry potter isekai, future isekai, dinosaur age isekai, alien isekai etc. |
Anime was it's best 20000 years ago, when cavemen drew art with real depth. Modern anime is all garbage. I miss great old days of anime. |
| @L0rdV1ct0r, I didnt mean all mmorpgs have the isekai fantasy setting, idk anything about mmos. I was saying nearly every single isekai anime has the same generic fantasy setting and also mmorpg style game mechanics. Of course they're gonna seem repetitive. |
| When thing like this image exist, can you really blame those people? |
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Plot twist: all isekai take place in the same world, the actors just change. It's just like the Jim Carrey in the Truman Show. |
| Well, there's "MC transported to a fantasy realm, adventure ensues" Best example: 12 kingdoms and then there's "otaku neet MC transported to mmo-like fantasy realm, quickly amasses a harem and obliterates every threat with his unearned power" The latter setup is definitely way too common. RE:zero does it best, arguably the MC is not even overpowered nor does he have a harem. Sure, there's a ton of focus on female characters but most of them barely tolerate the flawed MC, much less fall in love with him. Plus, there's actually other males in the show with *gasp* personalities! -which is a far cry from the usual. |
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| @L0rdV1ct0r They're just deluded memers who can't think for themselves, every genre has them. "all battle shounens are childish garbage with no talent in the plot and character writing" "all slice of life is boring garbage moe trash that panders to lonely neckbeards" "all thrillers are edgy trash and if you like them you're a misogynistic womanizing PoS". There's one or more of those for every genre. When someone lacking originality decides they want to be cool and shit on something, they parrot one of these phrases about a genre that they don't like. Probably the best advice you will ever get on MAL is this; The forums almost always fail to lead to productive discussion and at least half the forum-using members are toxic and immature. That's not to say that you won't find some conversation of substance here however, so if you do want to hang around for those few meaningful coversations, be prepared to overlook and shrug off a lot of nonsense. Also series specific thread are going to generate a lot less responses, but they will probably be far more genuine responses than what you can expect in Anime/General discussion. |
| Lolicons are scum. BABYMETAL is more metal than Metallica. Naruto is objectively the best anime ever. HxH 99' is decent. HxH 11' is bad. |
| I never said that and have always argued strongly against that sentiment. But ngl, the last two seasons or so have seen more generic isekai titles than the 7 years before that so it feels like after ignorants saying the same wrong stuff for 7 years they might be right after all. I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
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