Shingeki no Kyojin Season 3 Part 2 Episode 8 Discussion

RainyShadow said:
So, they could've saved Erwin too if they knew earlier that the serum is just spinal fluid from a titan?!
Or, is there something more special needed to produce it?

Llexa said:
Mikasa is HOT with that look!

Farabeuf said:


Did you watch without subs or something? If you can, I'd suggest watching it again keeping the following in mind. Eren has gotten in touch with his fathers memories and seeing how his life developed until his arrival at Paradis island.
Grisha is an Eldian, that's the race that can transform into giants when injected with the Spinal Fluid. There's conflicting stories about their background, but most can agree that their powers allowed them to dominate the continent for about 1700 or so years. Their war with the Marleyans caused the royal family that controls the Titan powers into taking most of the Eldians to Paradis island. The Eldians that were left in Marley, live as prisoners/Slaves.

After seeing his sister murdered by Marleyans, Grisha developed a massive grudge against them. As an adult he joins the Eldian restorationist movement where he meets his wife who is of the royal Fritz family. The restorationists plan is to enter Paradis island and take the power of the founding Titan from the King there. They also have a spy in the Marleyan military called the Owl. He finds out that Marley also wants to steal the Founding Titan power from the king as part of a greater struggle for natural resources,

Grisha has a son called Zeke (Eren's older half brother) who betrays his parents to Marley's security forces. Grisha is tortured and sent to Paradis were he will be turned into a mindless Titan and left to wander the island as punishment with the others. Once there, he recognizes Gross as one of the men responsible for his sisters death. But before Gross can kill him, The Owl who has been a Marleyan military guy all this time, makes his move and kills all the Marleyans by transforming into a Titan that looks suspiciously like Eren's.

I hope this helps. Like I tell everyone, while the anime adaptation is REALLY good and faithful to the story, I'll always recommend checking out the manga for greater detail and a more fleshed out story.

On my own personal note, while I've been waiting years to see this animated, I'm a bit disappointed to see that they cut so many corners with many still images. Come on guys!!

deg said:


lol ITS OKAY TO BE WHITE REEEEEEE

i do not think you are that oppressed when majority of the world is ruled by western countries or white elite people anyway and there is a reason a lot of poor people from poor countries want to go to western rich countries for economic relief alone

mitsukirox101 said:


I too have to agree about Dina eating Carla being too much of a coincidence. The only thing I can think of that could possibly make sense is that Dina somehow could tell that's where Grisha ended up at (matches up with your smell theory) and she ate Carla hoping that Grisha & his new children would see her and make the connection (thus fulfilling her promise of finding Grisha even after transforming). Then Grisha's kids aka Eren would have access to (knowledge of?) her because she's of royal blood. But this is reallyyyyy unlikely... if the regular titans have no cognitive abilities there's no way she could even predict that Grisha had another kid to try and continue out his restorationist plan. Also it just occurred to me after typing all this out that it doesn't even matter if Dina was trying to find Grisha because he saw her take on titan form so if anything he could have recognized and found her... LOL this all feels like a waste of time on my part but I'll post my response anyway haha

phoenixdevice said:
so, in fact evil nazi enslave proud only good doers titans (how they are managed to do this without magick papercut-swords and gas-jets-harnesses?) and force them into ghetto. Thats the solely reason the master titan got to unhabitated desert island with his titan-slaves-comrades (who are now known as the wall) and brainwash the people who are"willingly" went with him on a constant basis.

Btw, look at the nazi - they are so badass they sent only a handfull of titan-commando to fight another titans (even when they are know about Tzar-titan proclamation - "do not go to my island or i will send my buddyes to kill yall!", not to mention they are sending a hordes of "wild" titans on the land because this island is a jail in the imperia). I mean where the army? Why they send only a titans? Why not send a buch of "kirov reporting"-zeppelin bombers and flatten whole separatistic infrastructyre in one swipe (wall-dwellers are not allowed to develop any aircrafts, so they are doomed for good if there are a couple of attack planes will ride them)?

I mean the show are crusshingly loses scale of the story. In the beggining there is a "a remnants of mankind are forced to fight for survival against titans", now this is more like "a wild separatists tribe, stagnant into medieval, who are constantly drugged by their chief, are being punished by a small punitive squad because of mineral resources their land have".

Swizze said:
Wait.. So Zeke is Erin's step brother?? :o and His dads former wife ended up eating his mum? Is this all correct? Wow lol

thepath said:


Half-brother

Step brothers are not related by blood

SSTHZero said:
Watching this part was better than reading it.

papsoshea said:
I remember when I read this in the manga, the reveals were really shocking for me. Fastward till now, and this episode gives me a similar feeling (even though I know what's going to happen). Especially the part where the episode ended on. Grisha's back story is tragic. And of course, some people are going crazy about this whole "pro-nazi" thing. I don't see how this series is pro-nazi though? Anyone care to explain?

Klad said:

Also why the fuck is Eren in a prison

Phantumix said:


Thank you!! This definitely helps, I watched the episode with subs but there was just too much info for me to take in I guess

Swizze said:


Ohh true, and people saying that those titans were the ones in battle of trost. But I'm still trying to figure out how berthold and reiner were also apart of it then if they weren't on the wall that episode? Is that a later reveal or am I just mixing something up here?

mitsukirox101 said:
Screencap from this episode under the spoiler

Swizze said:


Ohh true, and people saying that those titans were the ones in battle of trost. But I'm still trying to figure out how berthold and reiner were also apart of it then if they weren't on the wall that episode? Is that a later reveal or am I just mixing something up here?

OverkilledRed said:


You're mixing it up. Just remember that the attack on the walls begun when Eren was 10 years old. The fact that the titans were the same is just a nod, seeing how titans are presumably immortals (or can live a really long life, like Ymir being a titan for 60 years) and they would still be running wild.

Swizze said:


But we still don't know about them pre season one right?