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| Good episode, I have to give it to AoT that it actually made me think for a few seconds that Armin would die. But in the end it was Erwin's time to go and Armin became the colossal titan. The only thing I'm made about is that Reiner managed to get away again after they hesitated to kill him again... Next episode we'll finally see what's in the damn basement. |
| Bitch What a difficult decision to make... I thought I wanted Armin to survive the most, but when Erwin died... Levi's face... Ugh. I guess I understand why some people thought Levi was actually in love with Erwin somehow. Now Armin is the Colossal Titan............. whot Aaaaand Reiner survived. Bitch. |
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| I think I still liked last episode abit more, tbh I already knew the outcome of this episode before watching and same for the next episode, since I spoiled myself about the manga awhile ago (next episode is dope), but noneless, I wasnt expecting just a conflict, both sides are truth in what they were saying and it left me really divided... BUT in the end I would have choosen Erwin, an emotion decision, since I have come to like him more and more with S3 part I and now II, more so than Armin, by far. That said, Armin surviving was the right choice from a logic point, I m sure that Erwin would have agreed, like he said on earlier episodes, Armin is the future of humanity and the Survey Corps, and I m sure he will make justice to the legacy of Erwin. The mangaka planned this really well, RIP Erwin. Also Zeke meeting Eren was an highlight itself, but since I never got around for the spoiler too long, I still dont think I can say I agree about Zeke true goals or what he said to Eren... Weebover9000 said: keragamming said: The back and fourth discussion between Armin death between two manga readers is tiring. You guys have already set up the tone of how this thread is going to be, a big flame war. This is basically how it went down when the chapter came out, lol LOOL For real, that is too funny, too good! xD @Nim0174 @Frostbytes Thank you both, your pointless argument made me laugh alot and was just what I needed, after just heavy episode. You know you are taking anime too far when you guys discuss like that. I guess this is inherited to one's personna, since you can argue both sides, and still not be correct. My view is that despite AoT being more ground than most anime, at the end of the day, it is still an anime, and trying to see an anime and applying it our world laws past a certain point, is just losing your time tbh, same as it is arguing about probabilities like that, but never less, that was a nice laugh you guys gave me, thank you. @Danpmss Tas aki tbm? Lol, calma não ataques o Frostbytes assim tanto que ele é outro fã extremo do Umineko como tu, pá. xD Honestamente, não percebo porque é que pessoas inteligentes ligam para discutir este tipo de coisas, podem passar toda a vida a argumentar de trás para a frente e nunca irão chegar a uma resposta, é uma perda de tempo. |
PlaycoolJun 3, 2019 3:53 PM
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| damn im really sad :( im really gonna miss erwin,, rest in peace :,(( i cant lie though, i do feel like levi saving armin was better. because armin's already done so much for everyone (erwin's done a lot for everyone too, i dont wanna disregard that) and i feel like he'll just become stronger and more confident, and eventually turn into a great leader some day - perhaps following in erwin's footsteps???? he's still young too so he has a lot of potential. but seeing erwin die broke my heart. erwin was such an amazing, motivated, well-spoken, and confident leader who essentially gave up his life to protect everyone else (or just everyone who survived), but i feel like he was ready to die. he did say he wanted to see the basement and it makes me sad thinking he died before he could ever could. and he won't even be able to see humanity rise over the titans (which i hope happens (no spoilers pls)). ugh a lot of feels this episode but really really enjoying the second half of the season so far. super excited for next episode too because i've been dying to learn more about the basement ever since i saw the manga spoilers :,,) |
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Nim0174 said: @Adnash93 if u got spoiled by Halperin i can tell you no need to worry because 1 out of the 3 things he wrote isn't true, or rather hasn't been resolved yet Oh, really? Good to know! While I've already known about 2nd spoiler mentioned in that post (accidentally YouTube recommended me one guy reacting to certain manga's chapter and in the title this main event was spoiled, lol), I haven't about the others. Mostly spoiler number 1 was something that could rustle my jimmies, because the event behind it was significant to the story, at least from my point of view as for I like the character who was mentioned in that spoiler. Thank you for clarifying. I also want to thank one user that anwered to my post, but deleted his reply. I read it before you deleted it, but I haven't got time to write a post back then. I forgot your nick, but I would like to thank you as well. :-) |
| Definitely one of the more gripping episodes. Although, there was so much plot armour with the cast I couldn't ignore. The argument between the Survey Corp was fantastic, easily one of my favourite scenes in the show and the voice acting and music were perfectly timed. The episode was also really well directed, so much emphasis placed on this moment and the characters. Quality episode. One of the best for sure. 4.5/5. |
| it always made me sad that erwin has always had an incomplete story with his dreams and ambitions, or what little you can think of his being, not done and fulfilled. i think it adds on a lot more though. my boy moblit deserves more recognition for saving best girl hange though also fuck floch |
| I knew that this was going to be a special episode with no OP theme. There's no way anyone can make that choice because there are no right answer. I'm sure that we can nit pick this episode to death but I was so immersed with the whole experience. It's been a while since I felt that way. Well done Armin! |
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| Rest in Peace to the greatest commander of all time in anime. Armin will have to prove himself once again that reviving him was the right move. And thank god it was Levi who decided it, else I wouldn't have agreed with it since he was the closest with Erwin. |
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| For those mad that Armin survived the fall, the answer is That is my theory. |
azertz99Jun 3, 2019 6:19 PM
CondemneDio said: Danpmss said: Not really, Armin should be the one guaranteed to survive until the end, since he is the narrator from the very start... So yeah, considering that, I would reconsider the argument itself. That's a pretty weak argument. Narrators have no bearing in the lore of the series itself. The narration part is just my own especulation, and it will change soon enough tbh Consider my actual argument the spoiler portion really. |
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BestBoiEren said: Danpmss said: Not really, Armin should be the one guaranteed to survive until the end, since he is the narrator from the very start... So yeah, considering that, I would reconsider the argument itself. I think the narrator voice is an anime only thing, and it doesnt really guarantee Armin surviving until the end. Narration is also a thing in the manga, but it goes for most part neutral without you really knowing who is doing it. There must be a reason for them to choose Armin, but beyond that it's all theory hunting haha And a great point, that journal being narrated by some other character about Ymir that has been read by Hange was about someone who eventually died, so indeed, there's no guarantee of anyone being alive by the end (if anything, Armin's notebook or something is being read by someone else if that's indeed the case). |
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| i teared up watching this episode. excellent execution. what a fucked up decision levi had to make |
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| I need that OST that played in the closing moment |
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PendragonX1 said: Moblit Berner is dead but he saves Hange that's an OG way to go. And now Hange is snake... That decision would have been almost impossible to choose between what both of them bring to the table Hange is snake... :D If you think this now, just wait for S4 :D |
| Merciful lies or painful truth? |
| Wow. This fckin Anime is really wrenching my heart. Amazing episode again. |
| I was about to murder everyone within a 4 mile radius....hard episode...I cried through most of it....I'm not even ashamed to admit that. |
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Gloomy-eyes said: eh, when did Erwin dream of anything outside the wall? His dream has always been the basement, Armin dreamed about the ocean, which is beyond that EH, go back previous season. His father told him about outside the wall, and he was interested hence he told everyone about what his father told him. After the tragedy, he wanted to prove his father was right and wanted to find the secret outside the wall, which is why he formed the Scout team in the first place. Are you going to tell me, he formed the Scout team just because he wanted to go to basement? He doesn't even know who is Eren and the basement before he form the Scout team. Erwin: 1. Wanted to prove his father was right 2. Wanted to go outside the wall to see whatever his father told him Armin: 1. Wanted to see ocean Nothing else. |
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| I cried so hard when they were arguing over whom to revive. It was hurtful to watch. Erwin Rip my leader. |
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| This one episode makes history in the anime world. Feels corps Now, the next few episodes are hype because of this. F to that guy who carried Erwin for no reason lmao |
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| This topic emphasis the reason why MAL is a bunch of toxism. Critique is fine, I did it too in the Promised Neverland topic, but you can't argue with people who enjoy it as if your view on it is a fact. |
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TinYLilMuffiN said: I cried so hard when they were arguing over whom to revive. It was hurtful to watch. Erwin Rip my leader. I sat there amazed at how stupid Levi is for bringing back Armin... Erwin had to be the one saved. |
| RIP Erwin, well i agree with Levi's reason not to pick him, it's a mercy to die instead of living in that hell again tbh i find the way Eren and Mikasa's act were annoying as hell, you're right Hange and the guy who brought Erwin.. they were not the only one who suffer, who lost someone important to them, eventough it's understandable.. i still want to slap them in the face lol. Armin (and Erwin) miraculously survived from that and Reiner escaped death again. |
| What a cinematic episode!! Great soundtracks and amazing casting. This was the moment Eren knew his destiny. |
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| My take: Levi was correct in choosing Armin not only because of the stark differences in motivation driving them (vindication of worldview vs. possibilities of what lies beyond), but also because of the sheer amount of lives Armin saves vs. the amount Erwin expends. Yes, Erwin's gambits generally end up paying off in the end, but at the ever-increasing cost to his soldiers; Armin has always factored in the human cost, and generally avoids unnecessary bloodshed. Erwin is right to view this battle as an existential one where the stakes couldn't be higher, but his core motivation is thoroughly self-serving. Hange made a good point regarding Erwin's experience, but I think she was more pleading for her own friend than speaking to the necessity of what he brings as a commander. This loss isn't as bad as people make it out to be; she's more than capable of taking on the role of commander for the scouting legion, while keeping Armin close for his tactical ability (both as a strategist and a war asset). Also - Erwin's character arc has been wrapped up neatly with a bow. There's still a lot more potential in Armin's story; especially with the wild ride that's about to begin. |
Dangerr said: My take: Levi was correct in choosing Armin not only because of the stark differences in motivation driving them (vindication of worldview vs. possibilities of what lies beyond), but also because of the sheer amount of lives Armin saves vs. the amount Erwin expends. Yes, Erwin's gambits generally end up paying off in the end, but at the ever-increasing cost to his soldiers; Armin has always factored in the human cost, and generally avoids unnecessary bloodshed. Erwin is right to view this battle as an existential one where the stakes couldn't be higher, but his core motivation is thoroughly self-serving. Hange made a good point regarding Erwin's experience, but I think she was more pleading for her own friend than speaking to the necessity of what he brings as a commander. This loss isn't as bad as people make it out to be; she's more than capable of taking on the role of commander for the scouting legion, while keeping Armin close for his tactical ability (both as a strategist and a war asset). Also - Erwin's character arc has been wrapped up neatly with a bow. There's still a lot more potential in Armin's story; especially with the wild ride that's about to begin. Erwin was a charismatic leader whereas Armin wasn't. Levi didn't really choose Armin, he just let Erwin rest. He didn't bring Erwin back to the hell again as he did not want Erwin to play the role of the devil again. He freed Erwin from his enslavement. |
ThatShiny_Hex said: Erwin was a charismatic leader whereas Armin wasn't. You're right about Erwin's charisma; that's the actual best argument for choosing him over anyone else, but I still think it's the lesser choice in the long-run, though it is certainly the more "rational" one from a soldier's perspective. ThatShiny_Hex said: Levi didn't really choose Armin, he just let Erwin rest. He didn't bring Erwin back to the hell again as he did not want Erwin to play the role of the devil again. He freed Erwin from his enslavement. That's the reason Levi gave, but that's not the whole picture. Levi's "realization" upon Erwin raising his hand - his flashback's to Kenny's "drunk" speech and his eavesdropping on Armin's conversation regarding the sea - was him evaluating Erwin's and Armin's core motivations, and him realizing that Armin had more to offer humanity than his tired friend. |
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