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May 12, 2019 9:59 AM
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Yup, more practicing this week at the batting cages.

Whatever the case, these girls still need more time to improve. Dunno how I feel about Arihara Tsubasa right now. She has the passion of baseball but I'm curious to see how far she can get into the sport. Fight!
May 12, 2019 1:25 PM
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Its nice that Akane is getting better at not just catching but also observing after overcoming her fear. Looks like Tomoe's lack of progress is being exasperated by the increased skills that the rest of the club are showing. Still its good that she's trying hard to learn on how to improve her skills and fix her flaws. Despite being on opposing teams the insight into the struggles faced by Seijo's leader Jinguji was quite interesting. Though Tsubasa was well within her rights to be angry i think she needs to understand that just because her skills are good doesn't mean that her team can just follow her and get the same results. Its good that as a result of both taking a step back that both were able to realise the problems that had existed between them. While allowing both to mend their bonds it also allowed both to rediscover the fire that was inside them.
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May 12, 2019 4:06 PM
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It's hard seeing others improve while you get left behind huh? Know that feeling.

We got another appearance from the rival captain!
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May 12, 2019 5:38 PM
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This episode was very emotional, at this point Tomoe sees how the rest of her teammates improve, it was obvious that she would feel that she is falling behind and above all feel that Tsubasa is treating her in a different way because they are best friends.
Seeing that Tomoe distanced herself from Tsubasa every day was very sad and seeing them suffer for this was the worst.
I felt so sad when Tomoe tells Tsubasa not to be friends, poor Tsubasa broke in tears when she heard those words, but in the end Tsubasa and Tomoe manage to understand each other and thus stay united by baseball and so they continue together as best friends.

On the other hand, seeing Akane finally overcome her fear of the ball and seeing her catch the ball was very nice, I also liked that the girls kept some distance during the fight between Tomoe and Tsubasa, on one hand they tried to help, but they also tried not to be intrusive.
I already want the girls to play another game and win it, now that the girls are motivated and have improved their skills, but another thing I want to see is when the last two girls come out in the OP join the team, especially the red haired girl with that long braid.
May 12, 2019 6:17 PM
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Hmm... seems like things could have worked out a lot easier if those two were more willing to talk or if Tsubasa wasn't entirely in charge of training (which she apparently is, I guess). A fight between friends is fine, and sometimes necessary, but this escalated far beyond what was necessary.
May 12, 2019 6:27 PM
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I think Tsubasa and Tomoe could still have kept their BF relationship if they only learned to tore the line. It didn't make sense for them to break that bond, lame episode and a bit useless in my view.

If they aren't bffs or comrades then what are they? Just teammates?
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May 12, 2019 6:39 PM
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Was nice of the other captain to help her out seeing as though they are rival teams, perhaps had a similar thing happen to her in the past?

Wasn't the best episode, but I suppose there's always going to be a bit of drama between people.
May 12, 2019 6:43 PM
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There are words that I would use to describe Tommochi, but I can't use them in polite company. If I could rate this episode a big fat zero, I would do so. It was stupid, unnecessary, and did not add anything positive to the story.
May 12, 2019 10:25 PM
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Some shows are so generic that they're actually good. Others are so generic they're just generic.
(With a nod to Gokujou Seitokai.)

May 12, 2019 10:57 PM

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you grow jealousy when you find out your best friend hangs out with another woman after school. so gay.
May 13, 2019 3:17 AM

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Oh, the inevitable friends drama.

Always knew that Arihara was too soft, even by the team's baseball standards. And Tomoe isn't buying that Shit because she already feels too far-fetched behind everyone, amateur or rookie. And so she decides to enlist the help of Seijo High baseball frontman Jinguji to help improve her skills.

And...this forced Arihara to think twice about this relationship with her. Best friends or comrades? In baseball, team spirit, not friendship, prevails.

In the end, they see each other as not friends, but comrades, which is a good ending.

Another meh episode that helps on character drama.
May 13, 2019 3:18 AM

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Usually it's the other way around when I'm with my best friend I can be very strict and still be comfortable but when I'm with regular friends I will be soft and be shy to be strict on them.
May 13, 2019 4:12 AM

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glad to see that Yoshinon.. err.. I mean Ukita is improving! her hard work in practice paid off, she can catch the ball properly now. :)

did not expect Tsubasa to get angry. Good thing the mess got sorted out.
May 13, 2019 10:32 AM

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This is the worst episode so far

Tomocchi have her chance to tell Tsubasa exactly what was on her mind, she chose not to do so. Tsubasa on the other hand did everything the right way, my girl was very vocal and didn't let it pass when she saw a problem. She addressed it, that is exactly how i want my waifus to act and behave.

And i was very surprised when Tsubasa spoke up, i never thought for a googolplexian year that my girl have it in her. But she roars like a lion when she feel mistreated , that was a really nice surprise .I like it when my girls roar!! They should stand up for them self and don't accepted being mistreated!!

You are not suppose to downgrade any type of female relationship in my anime. After the best friend stage is supposed to go at the dating stage, followed by the lesbian couple stage. Points off for messing around with my girls and their relationship. This can now only be corrected if a lesbian wedding will occur in the anime ,then its water under the bridge, not because i think it's going to happen but a one can dream

I didn't enjoy my self watching this ,it was depressing dark and everything i don't want from my cute girls shows. It,s a huge different between and good fight and this, this is just toxic

Some other redeeming factors, My girl wants other girls to be "more strict with her" YES i like that,,,or how she likes to put it exactly "" Please, don't hold back! Be strict with me"" she even say please i like that to .That make me happy and i really hope Tsubasa going to be a lot more strict with her in the future and don't hold anything back, and don't forget to say please =)

And she gets very jealous when her girlfriend are showing interest in the other girls, Oh that's so sweet. Tomocchi Sweetheart if you want your girlfriend do be more dominant in your relationship you should tell her!! If she had look her in her eyes and asked her "Please be more strict with me, I need a dominant girlfriend" this anime would easily get a ten from me .But for some odd reason it chose to downgrade their relationship, and with that crash and burn something that i loved in this anime

You made my girl cry!!! You buffoon!!!!! For that and messing around with my girls relationship!!! Then also for all the bad drama. Your punishment is a massive points loss!!! You had 8/10 now you only have 3/10 . You should be ashamed of yourself and your behaviour!!! I'm utterly disappointed!! Improve yourself or be dropped

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May 13, 2019 9:14 PM

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"BFs forever" feel before this episode were just a dreamlike, as it usually goes with women friendships, men tho "brothers in arms" +1

You know that meme about women and men friendship thing? :D
GaichiMay 13, 2019 10:47 PM

"A half moon, it has a dark half and a bright half, just like me…", Yuno Gasai
May 13, 2019 9:17 PM
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Ahhh! What an intense, sad and emotional episode.
I do not understand why Tsubasa made such a scandal because Tomochi practiced, if he wanted to do it was his decision, he did not have to meddle or react in that way. Well, they are things of girls and best friends that I will not understand clearly 😅.
If they are not best friends or companions, then what are they? Only friends, or rivals?
I admire Tomochi's effort, he takes the training seriously.

"A journey of a thousand miles starts with one step, in fact, it does not, it starts when you decide to try it."

"You have to let them let their fists talk until they fix it" ... I like that girl. LOL.
May 13, 2019 10:44 PM

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WolfDFireBreidi said:

If they are not best friends or companions, then what are they? Only friends, or rivals?


Indeed they are not "best" friends anymore, that thing is in the past. It sounds harsh, but they are not just comrades either, but as you noticed from the episode, they both understood why they had to make this scene, to grow stronger as they can be.

They might continue with their own team, or maybe as in usual sports life, they might leave to different teams (very likely, as they mentioned "grow stronger as they can be", from team which they start, will NOT give them all they can get, that is for sure) to gain important experience.

But I really like that how far they go for baseball, that for sure is not just playing around for fun.
GaichiMay 13, 2019 11:11 PM

"A half moon, it has a dark half and a bright half, just like me…", Yuno Gasai
May 13, 2019 11:44 PM

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This episode went full drama.
May 14, 2019 4:24 AM

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ButtSlapper said:
you grow jealousy when you find out your best friend hangs out with another woman after school. so gay.


can't let her waifu get taken away. just kidding

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Anyway, forgot to say this. Nice to see Shinonome smiling when she saw that Ukita has improved. :)
May 14, 2019 11:36 AM

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Not bad! eto yuri time for the two bestfriends Tomocchi & Tsubasa!
4/5.


May 14, 2019 6:58 PM

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I like this show but this episode was errr... bad.

The whole drama was so stupid. I completely understand where Tomocchi is coming from - Tsubasa isn't as strict with Tomocchi due to being so close and probably not wanting to hurt her feelings by admitting she's the weakest player - but what normal person would suddenly jump to not being best friends anymore? That's so ridiculous. All Tomocchi had to do was tell the truth to Tsubasa, and then Tsubasa should have changed her coaching strategy. There, problem solved. Roll credits.

It just seems like such an overreaction to quit being best friends over something that can so easily be fixed. I mean, how fragile does your friendship have to be if you choose being better at baseball over your best friend? And as much as I'm getting frustrated over Tomocchi's decision, I can't help but think that Tsubasa is pretty dumb if the only way she can coach her friend to be better is if they're not as close anymore. She didn't even consider the idea that they could still be best friends without her babying her.

I hope the next episode is better.

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May 15, 2019 3:48 AM

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- Almost no best girl Ryou this episode.
- Pointless drama.
- Weird conclusion.
All in all slightly disappointing episode for me, but I was glad to see more of Jinguji-san.
May 17, 2019 11:45 AM
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Uh... so the conflict was... artificial at best? Stupid at worst?
I mean, Tsubasa being angry that, from her point of view, her girlfriend best friend Tomocchi chose Jinguji over her for training is clearly on-character and makes sense. But the fact that from THAT it follows that Tomocchi ends up concluding that 'I don't need a best friend then,' in a utterly... unncessary way? Like, I mean, there's just no justification plot wise? Of course, it makes sense that Tsubasa is lenient with Tomocchi when coaching, I suppose, but it's just as easy as telling Tsubasa not to be so lenient, or even just of Tsubasa accepting that having Jinguji help Tomocchi is also a good thing, however jealous she may be that her gf is spending time after school with another girl. Plus, the conclusion that 'you can't be bestfriends and work well on the field' in general is just dumb? Rather you'd work even better the better friends you are! To end this in a happy note, I'll just conclude that the fact that they're neither bestfriends nor comrades now means they're practically girlfriends <3.
But, yeah, bad episode. And I hope Tsubasa and Tomocchi's relationship doesn't change because what we'd been seeing so far was really cute and good for the show. Wouldn't want to see them distanced or anything like that :/.
May 18, 2019 3:56 PM

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Didn't like the pointless drama in this one, or the denouncement of being best friends. Just seems kinda dumb all around.
May 19, 2019 7:31 AM

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Decent episode.

I wanted them so still remain as best friends.

May 21, 2019 7:13 AM

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the drama here was very uh.. pointless and didn't really contribute much.
May 26, 2019 9:06 PM
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lihle808 said:
I think Tsubasa and Tomoe could still have kept their BF relationship if they only learned to tore the line. It didn't make sense for them to break that bond, lame episode and a bit useless in my view.

If they aren't bffs or comrades then what are they? Just teammates?


Lover, i guess...
Jul 5, 2019 12:48 AM

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Eh what? What's with this forced drama all of a sudden?

Honestly, I don't get Tomoe's idea of stop being best friends in order to improve her skills. It also didn't seem like Tsubasa was being "soft" with her since she acts the same way with everyone so I really don't understand the point of this episode. I mean, they easily could have had a proper talk so Tsubasa would be more "strict" with Tomoe or else, she could ask Shinonome to coach Tomoe and that would be it, problem solved.

And also, seeing Tsubasa acting so "jealous" just because Tomoe was practicing with Jinguji was so exaggerated it made the whole following sequence look even more forced.

Overall. it was a pretty weak episode this time. If they wanted to establish some drama between the girls, I think they could have thought of something better.
Oct 14, 2019 8:15 AM

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best ep so far, was the push they needed to take things more serious

beautiful ep
"one step at a time"
Oct 16, 2019 7:19 PM

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The animation just blows. The drama... do i really need to talk about this nonsense?
Tsubasa was completely out of character and acted like jealous, selfish bitch, which she isn't.
Jinguji is awesome, i'd rather watch the whole show about her.
Did ma girl Waka cry at the end?
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Feb 9, 2021 8:00 PM
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Rewatched this episode since I'm on a baseball anime binge and yep just as terrible as I remember it. Felt the need to rant on this episode.

This was the absolute worst episode of this series, Tomocchi was so annoying here. I would have been fine if she was just mad because Tsubasa wasn't strict but then to say "we're not best friends anymore then", f that! Tsubasa had every right to be mad this episode, heck I'd even say she's the most blameless this episode, she noticed that her bf was mad about something and did something about it. "We can train together all you want once exams are over." She did everything right and her bf still went and NTR'd her. And the audacity to leave a message that baseball teams shouldn't have best friends like wtf?! The ending was just the icing on the cake, "oh good, looks like Tsubasa's outrage is going to reconcile their friendship!" Nope! We still ain't best friends I guess. Stupid, pointless drama that made no sense for several reasons!

1. Tsubasa is laid back with everyone! This whole you aren't strict with me, you baby me, makes no sense when Tsubasa is the same with everyone.

2. Tsubasa wanted to help, she even offered to practice just the two of them when exams were over. Tomocchi is mad that she won't practice NOW when Tsubasa isn't some smart whiz like you, she needs to actually study. She loves baseball why the heck wouldn't she want to practice with you if it wasn't something important

3. Going too far with the "we're not best friends anymore" just because she's not strict. Like seriously she could have said that I need a different coach because you're not strict! But nope put the blame on cheery Tsubasa and break her heart with the no more bffs bs.

4. And oh boy. This one makes this drama so stupid. You could have literally had another team member coach you! We just had gotten a strict experienced member in Ryo, she could be the hard ass coach that you wanted! She was the one who took baseball very seriously, there was no reason why Tomo had to look for outside help when Ryo was right there.

Honestly, Tsubasa should have gotten no blame here but nah we need the pointless drama where she's actually in the wrong somehow with the "you don't understand how I feel" bs. And the stupid ending where they don't even reconcile was so damn irritating! Tomocchi really was the worst. Ugh I should have just skipped this episode in my rewatch
Apr 4, 2021 1:44 PM

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Did not enjoy the abrupt thematic shift of this episode. In the previous two episodes the theme was to enjoy the experience of playing the game, win or lose, just have fun because you are with your friends and that's what is important. Tsubasa won her championship by getting her team to relax and just enjoy playing, while Shinonome took it too seriously and the pressure got to her and her team so they lost. But now in this episode the team's goal is to win the next game, apparently at any cost. Practice more, train harder, destroy friendships, whatever it takes to be the best. What? I thought we were headed down the path where Shinonome realizing her approach was not ideal, but now the whole team seems to embrace it and not Tsubasa's mindset of just having a good time. Winning feels nice, but what feels better is having fun. They are just an after school club, it does not need to be so cutthroat. As Tsubasa said in ep 5: "No matter how good the other team is, we should just think of it as having them help us and enjoy the experience." I like that attitude. It's positive and healthy. This new "victory or else" one, not so much.
Jun 7, 2021 4:59 AM

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Nice and emotional episode, but I didn't like that drama so much. I think Tomoe was unfair and cruel towards Tsubasa.

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Pointless drama 💯✅

IK that feeling when u betrayed by a friend, but.. It also means that they didn't open 100% to each other..
Cz the one is typical "only play for fun", n the other one is "play for win"..




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