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| It's great that two episodes aired together. Otherwise I'd have lost my mind after watching the first episode lol. So I had many questions and confusions after the first episode, but they answered those questions this time. This episode more or less managed to build up the world setting and what's actually going on. Can't wait for the next episode. |
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shibainsu said: Same here lol. It took me 2 episodes to get ahold of this show :3wow the anime was too fast I'm so confused but I like it I forgot all the names of the characters lol :( |
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| I'm sure I'll catch flak for this opinion, and people will think that "I'm just too dumb to understand, or too impatient for a mystery!", but I really don't like this series so far. What I love: - The OST. Both the OP and ED are catchy and stylish, but the subtle music during the episode really fits the mood. - Said mood. It's kinda melancholic, very serious, dark, but not overtly so. It's really hard to describe actually, but it really does have a unique atmosphere to it. What is okay: - The art style itself. It's a bit more realistic, and less "anime-esque", which is a welcome change. - The voice acting. It's not great, but it's not bad either. - The general premise. It could be an interesting story. What I hate: - The animation. It's lazy and sometimes even ugly. But most importantly, it's just not interesting at all! It's so boring to look at, even though I like the style they were going for. But it doesn't wow me at all. - Non-linear story-telling. It CAN be great, and I suppose I have to wait whether it really pulls off the big reveals etc. later on. But so far it just seems to be non-linear for the sake of being unique, it doesn't really add anything. But of course pseudo-intellectual elitists eat this shit up and jerk off while they call others simply too stupid to understand, thinking they themselves are some kind of genius. Fun fact: I watched Haruhi in chronological order and still enjoyed it a lot. I guess I am just a freak. - The characters. Being emotionless or not having any personality at all is NOT an interesting character trait. I don't remember any of their names, not because I am a stupid pleb, but because I couldn't care less. I was so thoroughly bored by these guys and girls, I simply couldn't be bothered. Going for a more "realistic" tone is fine and all, but you still need to make someone relatable or otherwise interesting. Right now it's like watching cardboard cutouts act on the screen. I might check out future episodes if I have time or my curiosity is piqued for some reason, but I am not thrilled by this anime at all. Which is a shame, because I really like horror and mysteries and can enjoy some good dementia, too. If you like this anime, I can recommend Paranoia Agent and Serial Experiments Lain, which I liked a lot. The latter really has a unique atmosphere, much like this series, while the former is a bit more interesting imho when it comes to the actual mystery. And if you're looking for some great psychological / dementia clusterfuck, you should of course check out Neon Genesis Evangelion. Which is a lot more mainstream and anime-like. Just my two cents. Not hating or anything, I just personally am not hooked at all and thought I'd share my opinion. Maybe someone can convince me to give it another chance with some great arguments. I don't mind being spoiled btw, as long as you tag it properly so others don't get spoiled. |
| Pretty intriguing so far! |
| Wow. So there is a will/entity in the universe, and they sent Echoes to test humanity (we are done for lol), but he was caught by some government, and they even made a copy of him. This copy got to that school, and was seen as he was trying to become that girl to blend into society. He decided to become the guy who saw it instead because it would be "better", so he is a male if they even have this distinction, but the boy made a deal with this Manticore, and now the man-eater monster is pretty much in love with him, and doing whatever he says. There was even more than this, but this was good. Now that the monster has an explanation for its existence and stuff, Boogiepop is the biggest mystery here, though there are still some stuff I'm not so sure about, this really caught my attention, I hope this continues like this. |
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cptlee39 said: What I hate: - The animation. It's lazy and sometimes even ugly. But most importantly, it's just not interesting at all! It's so boring to look at, even though I like the style they were going for. But it doesn't wow me at all. - Non-linear story-telling. It CAN be great, and I suppose I have to wait whether it really pulls off the big reveals etc. later on. But so far it just seems to be non-linear for the sake of being unique, it doesn't really add anything. But of course pseudo-intellectual elitists eat this shit up and jerk off while they call others simply too stupid to understand, thinking they themselves are some kind of genius. Fun fact: I watched Haruhi in chronological order and still enjoyed it a lot. I guess I am just a freak. - The characters. Being emotionless or not having any personality at all is NOT an interesting character trait. I don't remember any of their names, not because I am a stupid pleb, but because I couldn't care less. I was so thoroughly bored by these guys and girls, I simply couldn't be bothered. Going for a more "realistic" tone is fine and all, but you still need to make someone relatable or otherwise interesting. Right now it's like watching cardboard cutouts act on the screen. Agree with all of this. I didn't find it confusing, but it really felt like the linearity was messed up in some places just to look cool and that took away most of the tension this episode could've had. My biggest problem with this series so far is that there were a bunch of freaky elements thrown in but no real attention was given to any of them. Aliens? Sure, just give their backstory to me in an info dump by a bland nobody. Boogiepop itself? Have it show up only in the first episode and literally do nothing but give an info dump. Psychopath kid that somehow thinks he can rule the world just because his new buddy can eat people? Yeeeah, some kids are just weird, make no effort to even hint at his reasons. Also, the fact that Echoes can just repeat what other people say seems dumb. The reason given is that he can find out whether or not people are kind without talking to them, but was that really necessary? Why did his alien buddies do that to him? Couldn't they have figured out that would just make his life harder and not actually help his mission in any way? |
| I hope this doesn't end up like RErideD, that anime started really good but ended up turning into a dumpster fire. |
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| Another interesting episode. |
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| Man, I hate it when cute girls are getting slaughtered. :/ |
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| I don't understand the hate. I loved those two episodes |
| Good thing they posted these episodes back to back. The first episode made no sense on it's own but the second helps make things less confusing. |
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Muzashi said: I dont know what was skipped since I'm anime only this time around, but even then, it hardly seems like whatever it was that they left out mattered all that much since I'm pretty certain that the main idea of this arc is still in tact, hence why it's not really THAT confusing plot wise or character motive wiseTokoya said: I'm sure you'll be able to put the pieces together in the end. But what I mean by clusterfuck here is that because they skip a lot of details, some things just make less sense compared to the novel. I'm pretty sure you'll get what I mean if you read the first 2 chapters of the novel. Just because a lot of people are confused as hell, that doesn't mean that all of us weren't able to figure things out All this shows is that a lot of us are simply not used to watching/reading stories that are portrayed in a non-linear fashion, and so unless its all spoofed to us, we won't get it unless we actually take the time out to pay attention and put the pieces together ourselves Its quite easy to follow once you actually look back at things and a post on the second page did just that too...The pacing is fine I didn't mean to say "haha bet you guys don't get what this anime trying to say bcs y'all idiots", but I'm just trying to say that this anime could have been better if they put the details here. I know for some reason they couldn't do that, maybe cost, or time, or something. But you know, I'm just a disappointed fan. It's okay for viewers to have to think and analyze situations like this in an anime.....Just make an effort to do it lol, I'm sure most of us aren't children |
Daniel_Naumov said: I found the character designs for the ones that mattered to be unique enough from each other, the problem I had was remembering people's names (Although, that's a problem that I have a lot these days IRL so that also adds to my problem lol).Lul-oppa said: I have seen both Paranoia Agent and Lain. As well as Evangelion. And a bunch of other psychological or lesser mainstream anime (Utena, Tatami Galaxy, Perfect Blue, etc). Even Haruhi (which btw I prefer to watch in its original broadcast order, ie out of order). I find it odd for you to suggest Paranoia or Lain or Evangelion when you don't know what the new Boogiepop anime is about... I'd say Boogiepop offers something that those series do not. The non-linear narrative here is not solely for style. It's there as a way to keep viewers in the dark and have them slowly unravel the mystery of what is going on. If you have seen Baccano before, it is similar in style. I strongly urge you to remember character names/faces/who they are or you won't be able to follow the plot when it cuts to a new scene or when a time skip happens. Right now your brain is probably not engaged at all (you didn't try to keep track of the characters... which is the key thing you should do atm). That is why you find most of the show bland. There are subtle hints that suggest something about the characters: Suema (girl in glasses) for some reason is reading criminal psychology books. Saotome (the guy working with manticore) is happy to die. Takeda from episode one is a student that isn't studying for college exams (whereas most other students are). Kamikishiro (girl who meets Echoes on the street) was kind enough to help him when most people would not. Etc In their defense, the character design is quite overlapping. I had hard time remembering what is that psycho kid until they have shown his girlfriend, and I remembered they were walking past the good guy together. If anything, 20 years later they could have done some adjustments or details to make the characters differentiable from each other. I think apart from Nagi, Boogiepop, Touka and Echoes, everyone's else's name was only said like twice maximum lol |
| hmm did not expect two episodes like this..now there are even aliens now...what is really happening hmm |
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| as someone who read the original LN, i don't think it's too bad so far, although i feel like it could also be better, for people who go into this series blind i think it could be confusing. i'm also not a big fan of the character designs and the animation :( |
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| This episode was better than the first, which was in my opinion kinda dumb specially at the end. Like , the guy didnt even talk that much to the mysterious entity and was already all sad while calling her a friend, uhm.. okay..? As i said, episode two adds much more to the mystery and it made me a bit interested to learn more but even so im still not really into it, we'll see how the story goes. Opening and ending are amazing though! |
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| That kind girl made this episode much better |
| Way more interesting than first episode although I got confused near the end |
| So this manticore is a copy of an alien? it looked like a man! is it gender fluid? cuz she/he is in love with that psycho boy for some reason and acts very girly now! and one more question is she/he dead? i mean the scene that boogiepop say good bye to that boy TAkada(or whatever his name was i don remember) is it from far future and it is dead? or its from past and boogiepop just let the humans solve this problem? |
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| am i the only one that had to re watch both the episodes to get a better understanding :p |
| Suspense didn't quite work for me.It feels kinda slow, I'll be watching a couple more episodes and hope that it get's better. So they decided to focus on the "good guys" episode 1 and now the "bad guys" at episode 2 which lead me thinking that episode 3 may be the two groups collide episode . |
| I don't typically read manga so if I get anything right please don't tell me. |
JudoJD said: AyumiVk said: This episode was better than the first, which was in my opinion kinda dumb specially at the end. Like , the guy didnt even talk that much to the mysterious entity and was already all sad while calling her a friend, uhm.. okay..? As i said, episode two adds much more to the mystery and it made me a bit interested to learn more but even so im still not really into it, we'll see how the story goes. Opening and ending are amazing though! (please don't make me defend this...it's hurting me) I know right!! It's almost there was clearly a time jump or something Its not like it was mentioned in the episode and even if it were, they didnt show it at all. I dont know if in the light novel or whatever they portrayed it better but at least in the anime it didnt make sense. And.. well i doubt it was that much time to make the guy be super sad like someone he knew for a long time had just died. And no one is forcing you to defend it, you could have easily just not write that so why are you even complaining? |
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JiangHaoyi1979 said: If that manticor killed Naoko, then who is that girl Nagi takling to????? Have you perhaps considered that the scenes are not in chronological order? |
You all need to watch Nami. |
Suhrid1993 said: shiro_kai said: There was, because the girl being killed is happening in the past. They later on finished that scene too. I don't know why it is a problem smh.What about the scene where Kirima Nagi atacked the girl in the street, they could have just continued the scene but instead they cut to a girl being killed in a alley. There was no need for that. I think its a problem because there was no point on cutting that scene just to flashback it 2 minutes later. |
Well, at least i complained about an episode aspect in an episode discussion, and i even explained why. The other person just complained about my opinion like i didnt have the right to have my own lol, i dont care if you like the series, what i said is how i felt and its not like i just threw blind hate. |
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| well that escalated quickly....i know it's from a different POV but i'm still so confused. i did enjoy it though! |
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FMmatron said: Oh well, rip Naoko. One thing that I prefer in this new adaptation is that it is less confusing compared to the 2000 series. Admittedly, it wasn't necessary to spoonfeed us so many infos right from the beginning, but it's better than being lost almost all the time. The atmosphere on the other hand was way better in the older series. The tone here isn't bad, even kinda good, but nothing compared to how extremely intense the other one felt. I'm still satisfied overall, let's see how it goes. This is the actual first adaptation, the other anime was a original anime sequel to the first arc of the novel. |
caio_brb said: FMmatron said: Oh well, rip Naoko. One thing that I prefer in this new adaptation is that it is less confusing compared to the 2000 series. Admittedly, it wasn't necessary to spoonfeed us so many infos right from the beginning, but it's better than being lost almost all the time. The atmosphere on the other hand was way better in the older series. The tone here isn't bad, even kinda good, but nothing compared to how extremely intense the other one felt. I'm still satisfied overall, let's see how it goes. This is the actual first adaptation, the other anime was a original anime sequel to the first arc of the novel. I actually know that, should've worded it properly. |
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