| I was asking myself that question , why is yaoi more popular than yuri ..cuz as i can see the fujoshis are everywhere and the shounen ai animes are pretty popular than the shoujo ai ones like yuri on ice though the anime community is dominated by boys So isn't that weird ? And why yaoi is very popular and beloved while most of the anime community are boys ? |
| This world is awful and merciless. -accelerator- |
| Because of fujoshis spreading it pretty much everywhere you go. |
| Because alot of girls are into anime for yaoi while guys like other things more/don't like yuri |
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| really? I dunno but for me it seemed like mostly the other way around. An example can be like almost every anime which has a harem. Almost all of them has a character that is just fixated on another member of the harem. Though these are mostly just fan-service but still. but i'm really not sure, i haven't seen that much anime so i shouldn't really speak up lol |
ZionPulse said: Because alot of girls are into anime for yaoi while guys like other things more/don't like yuri Pls dont forget that there is alot of guys that are into anime for hentai (aad some of those hentai are yuri) @shicchi omg you need to see this |
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| It's never really seemed that way to me. The amount of people who casually ship girl characters together is ridiculous in my exposure. It reinforces the idea to me that subtle shoujo ai/yuri is what dominates the market. |
| Usually in my eyes Yuri seems more popular but... Fujoshi/Fudanshi are very hectic and vocal thus why you see the industry tend to their needs more, RAISE YOUR YURI FLAGS MY FELLOW YURI COMRADES, MORE YURI ANIME MUST BE MADE |
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| Lesbian stuff was hot shit back when I was a teen, but now it's just boring. Lesbians aren't into dudes. That kinda kills the fantasy. Yaoi keeps things interesting by exploring the taboo. |
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| I kind of feel like yuri doesn't have a "mythology" that is developed enough. Sure, it has tropes and archetypes too, but to me it seems that they aren't of quite the same magnitude as something like uke/seme. In my mind yaoi is located in its own world that is very far removed from everything else, whereas yuri usually exists in conjunction with other genres and styles. So yaoi has a stronger presence in a way. |
| I think it's mainly just that girls prefer boy x boy and guys prefer boy x harem of girls, so yuri then gets left behind. |
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| I think you're being too sexist here OP. What's popular is isekai-or whatnot. |
| I can't really answer that question. Shojo-ai (GL) and shonen-ai (BL) were born as a rammification of the shojo genre, and i'm sure that they were popular untill some point, but nowadays the market is totally dominated by Yaoi. Maybe it's because fujoshi are strongly supporting Yaoi, while Yuri just doesn't have a strong fandom (and no, it's not a "boys only" thing) @Chandela Look at the amount of Yaoi manga and compare it to Yuri. You see a lot of people shipping two girls because you're probably going on """normal""" anime discussion, which have a bunch of guys (but these guys won't consume yuri, while fujoshi are supporting yaoi works). @Psycho Both Yaoi and Yuri are better explored on manga format, same with titles that deals with transgender issues. They're still niche compared to other genres, so you can only have poor adaptations done by bad studios. @Kuchitsu That happens because of the difference on popularity. Yaoi is bigger in any way you could think, more titles, more authors and more diversity. But i'm sure that if there were a fujoshi counterpart for yuri we would see more and better works. edit; talking about recent titles |
llorandoAug 31, 2017 2:34 PM
| Because gayness is taking rule over the world. |
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| Cos there isn't any good yuri/shoujo ai anime. And they all seem to be schoolgirl fanservice instead of a decent/mature relationship. |
| Because chemicals in the water are turning everyone gay, especially frogs |
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 Yuri/shoujo ai is just to underrated. I hope Asagao to Kase-san (haven't read it) will be a good adaptation and the Savior for the genres. |
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| I assume it's because it serves as an erotic genre for females in the same way ecchi is for males. For guys who want to jack off, yuri seems to be a less popular option than ecchi, whereas yaoi has much fewer alternatives. I think this is also why yaoi has more of a smutty reputation than yuri. |
| @Tsukihiko Ironically the places I had in mind have huge female presence (and they more than certainly advocate yuri, so you're right in saying it's not a 'boys only' thing), so I don't think your impression holds up much here. Though to be fair I wasn't really thinking in terms of manga specifically (something to keep in mind). I was speaking more so relative to anime and it's sales statistics of the last bit now (which I'm quite fond of watching). |
ChandelaAug 30, 2017 3:56 PM
dvbx_073 said: Yuri/shoujo ai is just to underrated. I hope Asagao to Kase-san (haven't read it) will be a good adaptation and the Savior for the genres. It will, also will Yagate Kimi ni Naru once it has an Anime adaption announced, the two Yuri Anime that will save Yuri/Shoujo Ai along with Citrus |
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Aidoru-Ojisan said: dvbx_073 said: Yuri/shoujo ai is just to underrated. I hope Asagao to Kase-san (haven't read it) will be a good adaptation and the Savior for the genres. It will, also will Yagate Kimi ni Naru once it has an Anime adaption announced, the two Yuri Anime that will save Yuri/Shoujo Ai along with Citrus thanks for the Yagate Kimi ni Naru looks good going to read that later tonight :x read citrus today after delaying it multiple times...  |
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dvbx_073 said: Aidoru-Ojisan said: It will, also will Yagate Kimi ni Naru once it has an Anime adaption announced, the two Yuri Anime that will save Yuri/Shoujo Ai along with Citrus thanks for the Yagate Kimi ni Naru looks good going to read that later tonight :x read citrus today after delaying it multiple times... You know I used that pic of Eris from SonoHana when finding out that Citrus was getting an Anime along with Netsuzou Trap (sadly not as great as it could have been but eh) basically it was me saying... "2017 is the year..." and then I add in the hallelujah squirrel to praise the Yuri Goddess for allowing more Yuri Anime to be made lol  |
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| @Chandela I don't really think about anime when talking about Yaoi/Yuri cause... it's so little. Everything that i've watched untill now was gross, this season is no exception with Hitorijime My Hero doing all the horrible yaoi tropes and Netsuzou TRap (which i prefer not talking about) And i was using MAL's anime discussions as reference, so my bad. |
| I don't not know much about yuri, but I think I know why it is less popular than yaoi. Most of the times, yuri seems to try to be either cute or very sexual and that might turn ppl of. Either that or it is just that The Yuri fanbase is less vocal. Or maybe there is a lack of good Yuri (We need more Uthena). And let's be honest, girl on girl is also pretty dam hot right? |
| Omg I cant believe we're having this xD Its based on preference, that's it |
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| I don't remember there being a character named Yaoi in Yuri on Ice????? |
| Most anime is created for a male demographic, and the anime that isn't pushed towards guys is usually for much younger girls. There's plenty of shounen, seinen, and shoujo, but when it comes to josei? There's not a lot to choose from. Women over the age of 16 don't have very many shows or whatever designed just for them... That is except yaoi. Yaoi is one of the few genres that's created specifically for women. Whether it's story, romance, or porn-wise, there's really not more for them to choose from unless they wanna watch shounen, seinen, etc. Guys on the other hand have a shit ton to choose from. No matter what you are, if you're a guy there has been an anime made for you in mind. There's action, comedy, slice of life, everything. They don't just have to watch yuri. Of course anybody can watch whatever they want, but when it comes to genres and demographics, that's what I think. |
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| I think they're pretty equal in terms of popularity, it just depends where you're at. |
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| As opposed to popularity, I think it's more to do with the nature of the relationships between characters and that really links to how Japan treats gender culturally, I guess. For example, a lot of anime have Yuri baiting, Yuri pandering or extremely ambiguous relationships between girls without them actually being addressed canonically. Sure, plenty of anime do that with male characters, but it happens way more with girls from what I've seen. It's niche enough being a gay man in Japan, so imagine being a lesbian woman (when women are pressured to get married and have kids and a dependable husband). It's like a taboo within a taboo and that makes it even more difficult to write about! A lot of women either live in denial or silence, even if they've had romantic relationships with women as teens/young adults; it's treated like a "phase" they should grow out of by a certain age. This is a legitimate issue in Japan for lesbian women- in fact Yuri Kuma Arashi is basically a commentary on it in anime format. I think maybe that's why there's less of it; less of something means it's much easier to overlook. Yaoi was much easier to overlook when there was barely any of it. But since there's been tons of it in the last decade as well as series like Yuri on Ice integrating homosexual relationships as a sub-plot rather than a form of fetishism or social commentary, there's been a huge boom followed by a relative amount of acceptance. Maybe in a few more years, the same will happen with Yuri too. |
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Long_Ng said: are you kidding me, Yuri is practically EVERYWHERE, while yaoi, only here and there Yuri on Ice and Free are like the first successful yaoi works, while successful yuri works had been the norm Pls don't use opinions as facts and use a bit of logic .. ok yuri on ice and free are successful , and the yuri animes , can you give me a single popular yuri anime ? You can't cuz there is not |
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Long_Ng said: S-quare22 said: Pls don't use opinions as facts and use a bit of logic .. ok yuri on ice and free are successful , and the yuri animes , can you give me a single popular yuri anime ? You can't cuz there is not Ok, not straight up Yuri, but cute girls doing cute things that have been the trend since Lucky Star and K-on (2007 i believe) Free isn't straight up Yaoi either Sorry to tell you that cute girls doing cute things is called friendship and not yuri .. but if we talk about yuri on ice then we are talking about shounen ai and not friendship .. maybe you should watch yuri on ice to understand me more |
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Long_Ng said: S-quare22 said: Sorry to tell you that cute girls doing cute things is called friendship and not yuri .. but if we talk about yuri on ice then we are talking about shounen ai and not friendship .. maybe you should watch yuri on ice to understand me more I haven't watch Yuri on Ice (very reluctant to do so too) so my judgement can be iffy but from what i know, basically the ship officially sail around episode 6 or something and to my knowledge, it's the only big yaoi (or shonen ai, depend on how you want to call it) On the other hand, cute girls doing cute things have been around for so, SO long, with countless commercial success. While it's not quite yuri, compare to shonen ai, it's a lot bigger. Yuri on Ice is definitely a success, commercially, but it's 1 example, and because of it, there will be more shounen ai, but i do believe that shoujo ai will be a much bigger boom, just because there already so many borderline shoujo ai shows already this season, we have that NTR show and so fort Omg i've told you before that cute girls doing cute things is not yuri , it's called friendship .. so animes like lucky star and k-on are not counted .. ok yuri on ice is the most popular yaoi and what about yuri ? |
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| Girls liking girls is just so normalized. In most MTK manga and most Kyoani anime there is yuri subtext. There is yuri subtext even in kids shows like Aikatsu and Precure. It's like friendship, but more intimate. With guys it's less normal so it seems like they're breaking more rules when they're gay, which seems sexy to girls. It's a forbidden zone that guys can't get away with as easy as girls can. |
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zombie_pegasus said: Girls liking girls is just so normalized. In most MTK manga and most Kyoani anime there is yuri subtext. There is yuri subtext even in kids shows like Aikatsu and Precure. It's like friendship, but more intimate. With guys it's less normal so it seems like they're breaking more rules when they're gay, which seems sexy to girls. It's a forbidden zone that guys can't get away with as easy as girls can. >Mentioning Aikatsu! >remembering that my fave ship from the show was Aoi x Ran... >good post lol |
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S-quare22 said: Long_Ng said: I haven't watch Yuri on Ice (very reluctant to do so too) so my judgement can be iffy but from what i know, basically the ship officially sail around episode 6 or something and to my knowledge, it's the only big yaoi (or shonen ai, depend on how you want to call it) On the other hand, cute girls doing cute things have been around for so, SO long, with countless commercial success. While it's not quite yuri, compare to shonen ai, it's a lot bigger. Yuri on Ice is definitely a success, commercially, but it's 1 example, and because of it, there will be more shounen ai, but i do believe that shoujo ai will be a much bigger boom, just because there already so many borderline shoujo ai shows already this season, we have that NTR show and so fort Omg i've told you before that cute girls doing cute things is not yuri , it's called friendship .. so animes like lucky star and k-on are not counted .. ok yuri on ice is the most popular yaoi and what about yuri ? Well I can think of one. And that one is Revolutionary girl Uthena. |
S-quare22 said: Haikyuu, Kuroko no Basket and other sports anime are about friendship as well but shippers will ship, same with all female cast in other shows for male audience like Hibike! Euphonium. Moreover Free isn't even yaoi so if you call it that way it is fair to call cute girls doing cute things yuri as well.Long_Ng said: Ok, not straight up Yuri, but cute girls doing cute things that have been the trend since Lucky Star and K-on (2007 i believe) Free isn't straight up Yaoi either Sorry to tell you that cute girls doing cute things is called friendship and not yuri .. but if we talk about yuri on ice then we are talking about shounen ai and not friendship .. maybe you should watch yuri on ice to understand me more Yuri on ICE being yaoi seems very debatable as it is more of a sport anime with a gay romantic relationship, not really yaoi genre. |
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| In my personal experience, it seems that there are greater proportions of girls into yaoi than guys into yuri. Also fujoshis have a higher level of dedication to yaoi than guys into yuri |
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| fujos got money and they draw more Dj while male otaku are too busy writing their shitty self insert light novel |
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| I'm pretty sure more girls read yuri than guys do as well. Girls just like gay stuff more. |
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| @S-quare22 Lmao Idk why but I had a good laugh out of this thread Xtronic said: I was asking myself that question , why is yaoi more popular than yuri ..cuz as i can see the fujoshis are everywhere and the shounen ai animes are pretty popular than the shoujo ai ones like yuri on ice though the anime community is dominated by boys So isn't that weird ? And why yaoi is very popular and beloved while most of the anime community are boys ? The power of fujoshi! Mwahahaha On more serious note, YoI is good not as BL anime but as a sports anime too and just good anime in general. It just happened to feature BL as the main pair. Well it's the main selling point too, but YoI is just great in general imo so even guys who watched YoI can like it/appreciate it too. I don't quite familiar with yuri but like people said, I think male audience are more into ecchi/harem/hentai stuff than just romance between girls. Idk And maybe girls are more passionate about things they like and actually supports the BL and yaoi anime they like more seriously, so the industry take advantage of that. (I mean, we even have comic market twice a year, not to mention fujoshis usually likes to arrange various events for the ships they like, buys a fuck tons of official merchs etc) while male audience are content to just read/watch random hentai for free... (again maybe! I don't claim I know about it more than you do!) flame2frost said: fujos got money and they draw more Dj while male otaku are too busy writing their shitty self insert light novel BurningSpirit said: In my personal experience, it seems that there are greater proportions of girls into yaoi than guys into yuri. Also fujoshis have a higher level of dedication to yaoi than guys into yuri thats what I'm talking about yeah! |
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