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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- LOOOOL Poor Tota. I kinda felt bad him but I think Yukihime's reactions and response were pretty obvious with the rejection especially to the marriage proposal. |
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| The last panel though... |
| Holy shit. Don't let me down ken, i'm now abord the ship And thus the wild ride begins |
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| So she does remember him from long ago. |
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| WTF that last panel?! did i really just see that? |
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| All aboard the ship, hopefully it won't do a Kisaragi |
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| How can so much WIN be laced with so much FAIL?! Danggit Touta, that was hilariously sad! |
 I go where I wanna go, even if its into Oppai. |
| Akamatsu, bro, don't let me down. Don't sink this ship. Pls. |
| Touta will have to beat her If he wants her hand. I expect it will turn out to be something like that. BUT THAT LAST PANEL JUST GOT ME SO EXCITED!! |
| Yay! Kitty remembers :D |
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| Oh man ... REALLY OH MAN ... THIS DECLARATION OF LOVE ! XD |
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| Best chapter yet or best chapter yet? |
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Can't tell if this is the accurate translation but that cracked me up, never seen the protagonist of a shounen manga ever say that. Anyway this ship will never sail, yukihime likely views him as a son in terms of things, the only reason why she probably developed feeling now because he messed around with her timeline. |
Anyway this ship will never sail. Dont ruin the fun dude :( |
| Amazing! Bravo just bravo ^^ Touta has rised in my ranks so much in these dozen few chaps so much. Dat confession! Dat proposal! And Eva actually remembers :O Karin's reaction was so lol Can't wait to see their reactions to how strong he's become. It's amazing how Ken just made most Eva shippers with Negi, Nagi...whoever the f*** else jump ships to Touta even though it seemed kinda ridiculous at first. Props for the writing |
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Shangetsu said: All aboard the ship, hopefully it won't do a Kisaragi Plssss god. |
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Ice_Flow said: Can't tell if this is the accurate translation but that cracked me up, never seen the protagonist of a shounen manga ever say that. Anyway this ship will never sail, yukihime likely views him as a son in terms of things, the only reason why she probably developed feeling now because he messed around with her timeline. He meant it as fighting, not having sex but the joke was meant for other to misinterpret it as such. Also I beg to differ, she might have seen him as a son if the first time she met him was when she started to live with him but she was already in love with him prior to that. Touta didn't change the past, the real past already took in consideration the actions he did in Dana's space before we saw him do them. Basically Eva really met Touta hundreds of years ago, that is true now and it also was true before Touta even met Dana. |
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| Best confession I've read in a romance manga. Fucking hilarious. She actually remembers after all this time, that sly loli. |
FullmetalRaikouOct 7, 2015 9:39 AM
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| Tota just catapulted upwards a dozen places in my favourite character standings. |
| Forget about that ship, harem-end rulez! 500 years waiting Q.Q but of course, she totally forgot during all that time with Nagi and Negi :v |
| Eva gave him a nice shoryuken... |
| "Even now, I travel on my journey, Believing in the world, Aiming for something far away – an endless journey. Having a dream like someone else’s, Or being in someone else’s dream – Which would you prefer?" |
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| Props to Touta, i didn't expect him to confess and let alone be so eager about it lol |
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| I'm aboard the ship too ^^ |
| Poor Tota got rejected. Glad they're finally back, was hoping to see more of the other characters but I guess not this chapter. |
| Shy Eva is best Eva! The last panel was just as perfect as it gets. Shangetsu said: Touta didn't change the past, the real past already took in consideration the actions he did in Dana's space before we saw him do them. Basically Eva really met Touta hundreds of years ago, that is true now and it also was true before Touta even met Dana. I'd have to concur with this. There's many reasons as to why Eva "fell" for both Nagi and Negi that could work out well. I'm willing to bet that this is the same timeline and reality from Negima, unless Ken says otherwise. Of course, it's probably more than likely when Eva was first introduced in Negima Ken didn't think of Eva's full-fledged out history involving both Eva and Touta. But then again, as with most stories that go on for many years, stories changed along the way, in order to both suit the author's goals and the reader's expectations. Either way, this should prove fun. Touta sure has come a long way from being a 1-demnisnal boring character without a goal ahead of him to what he is today. |
Ensei said: I don't know how, but Akamatsu just keeps making this series worse and worse... This is some bad fanfiction level sutff. Now, I wouldn't say worse but it does seem kind of fanfict-like. I'm not saying I dislike it, but I don't like it at the same time. Maybe because I'm still pushing ships from Negima. I don't know but I just don't like the whole Touta and Yukihime thing. I should see how it develops but it's odd to me. She went from motherly figure to love interest and it's just very odd...... Again, maybe it's just me still stuck in Negima but this ship doesn't seem right to me. I'm not agasint it but I don't like it nor love it like everyone else. |
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CallMeKurisuchan said: I agree with both of you on the matter that this feel very fanfictiony. Their relationship was more of foster parent and child to me, no matter how I look at it. It just doesn't sit right for me, and to be honest, it destroys Eva's character from MSN. As much as I love to ship Negi and Eva back in MSN, she would always keep her composure, she had never shown that kind of interest for Negi. I doubt Ken Akamatsu planned this far ahead when he wrote MSN, in term of having Touta as a character that Eva has met long ago, so to suddenly make Eva interested in 'romance' other than Nagi is just unfathomable.Ensei said: I don't know how, but Akamatsu just keeps making this series worse and worse... This is some bad fanfiction level sutff. Now, I wouldn't say worse but it does seem kind of fanfict-like. I'm not saying I dislike it, but I don't like it at the same time. Maybe because I'm still pushing ships from Negima. I don't know but I just don't like the whole Touta and Yukihime thing. I should see how it develops but it's odd to me. She went from motherly figure to love interest and it's just very odd...... Again, maybe it's just me still stuck in Negima but this ship doesn't seem right to me. I'm not agasint it but I don't like it nor love it like everyone else. Seriously, just thinking about it disgust me. If this ship sails, I would gladly delete both MSN and UQH entry from my list, and throw away any merchandise I own of MSN. Why can't we just have a normal family love between the two of them? Is it really that impossible, especially of an age gap where the older one is at the age where she could become his mom? Fuck. I am not sure if I even want to continue reading this manga now. |
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ToG25thBaam said: I don't get it? What about it is so bad that a ship of all things would cause you to drop/delete the seriesCallMeKurisuchan said: I agree with both of you on the matter that this feel very fanfictiony. Their relationship was more of foster parent and child to me, no matter how I look at it. It just doesn't sit right for me, and to be honest, it destroys Eva's character from MSN. As much as I love to ship Negi and Eva back in MSN, she would always keep her composure, she had never shown that kind of interest for Negi. I doubt Ken Akamatsu planned this far ahead when he wrote MSN, in term of having Touta as a character that Eva has met long ago, so to suddenly make Eva interested in 'romance' other than Nagi is just unfathomable.Now, I wouldn't say worse but it does seem kind of fanfict-like. I'm not saying I dislike it, but I don't like it at the same time. Maybe because I'm still pushing ships from Negima. I don't know but I just don't like the whole Touta and Yukihime thing. I should see how it develops but it's odd to me. She went from motherly figure to love interest and it's just very odd...... Again, maybe it's just me still stuck in Negima but this ship doesn't seem right to me. I'm not agasint it but I don't like it nor love it like everyone else. Seriously, just thinking about it disgust me. If this ship sails, I would gladly delete both MSN and UQH entry from my list, and throw away any merchandise I own of MSN. Why can't we just have a normal family love between the two of them? Is it really that impossible, especially of an age gap where the older one is at the age where she could become his mom? Fuck. I am not sure if I even want to continue reading this manga now. |
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animalia said: Because Akamatsu went out of his way to go back on his characterization on Eva just to make this pairing works, in other word, he's forcing it into this narrative where Eva is even weaker in her personality than she was in Mahou Sensei Negima, and here comes Touta, a 13 yo(?) kid, who could "heal her heart". It not only destroys Eva's character for me, it makes Touta seem like a really generic shounen main protagonist, who says things that don't really go along with his "true" character, and not his generic "shounen mc" persona.I don't get it? What about it is so bad that a ship of all things would cause you to drop/delete the series That's not only it. I just can't see it, because Yukihime basically raised the kid, he was like her own child, and if Yukihime falls in love with Touta, I am so done with this. I don't see what Touta has done to her, that Negi has not tried to, or Nagi. |
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ToG25thBaam said: Fair enough. I am not sure I agree that this is character back-pedaling, but that is a matter of perspective. I can tell you why I think differently than you if you are interested, but if you're not I'll spare you the discussion.animalia said: Because Akamatsu went out of his way to go back on his characterization on Eva just to make this pairing works, in other word, he's forcing it into this narrative where Eva is even weaker in her personality than she was in Mahou Sensei Negima, and here comes Touta, a 13 yo(?) kid, who could "heal her heart". It not only destroys Eva's character for me, it makes Touta seem like a really generic shounen main protagonist, who says things that don't really go along with his "true" character, and not his generic "shounen mc" persona.I don't get it? What about it is so bad that a ship of all things would cause you to drop/delete the series That's not only it. I just can't see it, because Yukihime basically raised the kid, he was like her own child, and if Yukihime falls in love with Touta, I am so done with this. I don't see what Touta has done to her, that Negi has not tried to, or Nagi. |
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animalia said: Yeah please do. I would like to know your take on the situation. It doesn't mean that I'll change my mind on the matter, but I want to understand why do people like this situation, I want to know their perspective on this matter.Fair enough. I am not sure I agree that this is character back-pedaling, but that is a matter of perspective. I can tell you why I think differently than you if you are interested, but if you're not I'll spare you the discussion. |
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ToG25thBaam said: Basically her time with 3A, while wonderful for her, was just a passing moment in the several hundred years she lived. She treasured those moments, but as time passed she was eventually left alone again. Even so she hasn't COMPLETELY gone back to the way she used to be. She doesn't look at herself as a monster anymore due to the life she took. But at the same even those meaningful connection were rendered, as Kansas would say, Dust In The Wind.animalia said: Yeah please do. I would like to know your take on the situation. It doesn't mean that I'll change my mind on the matter, but I want to understand why do people like this situation, I want to know their perspective on this matter.Fair enough. I am not sure I agree that this is character back-pedaling, but that is a matter of perspective. I can tell you why I think differently than you if you are interested, but if you're not I'll spare you the discussion. |
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animalia said: I thought you were gonna explain why you like the whole Touta x Eva shipping and why they make sense story wise, but I guess it's only about Eva. To be honest, I agree with what you said, but it is less about her, and more about how Akamatsu is dealing with her, if it makes sense.Basically her time with 3A, while wonderful for her, was just a passing moment in the several hundred years she lived. She treasured those moments, but as time passed she was eventually left alone again. Even so she hasn't COMPLETELY gone back to the way she used to be. She doesn't look at herself as a monster anymore due to the life she took. But at the same even those meaningful connection were rendered, as Kansas would say, Dust In The Wind. |
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ToG25thBaam said: Could you be more specific, please?animalia said: I thought you were gonna explain why you like the whole Touta x Eva shipping and why they make sense story wise, but I guess it's only about Eva. To be honest, I agree with what you said, but it is less about her, and more about how Akamatsu is dealing with her, if it makes sense.Basically her time with 3A, while wonderful for her, was just a passing moment in the several hundred years she lived. She treasured those moments, but as time passed she was eventually left alone again. Even so she hasn't COMPLETELY gone back to the way she used to be. She doesn't look at herself as a monster anymore due to the life she took. But at the same even those meaningful connection were rendered, as Kansas would say, Dust In The Wind. |
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animalia said: Could you be more specific, please? ToG25thBaam said: in other word, he's forcing it into this narrative where Eva is even weaker in her personality than she was in Mahou Sensei Negima, and here comes Touta, a 13 yo(?) kid, who could "heal her heart". It not only destroys Eva's character for me, it makes Touta seem like a really generic shounen main protagonist, who says things that don't really go along with his "true" character, and not his generic "shounen mc" persona. That's not only it. I just can't see it, because Yukihime basically raised the kid, he was like her own child, and if Yukihime falls in love with Touta, I am so done with this. I don't see what Touta has done to her, that Negi has not tried to, or Nagi. If you want me to be even more specific than that, I would have to reread the series. What benefit does this give the series to have Touta falls in love with Yukihime, a romantic love instead of a platonic family love? Why Touta, when he is just a youngster who has not experienced the real world and can only talk out of his ass? Because he is the protagonist? How does Touta's train of thought works? Like a typical main character you would see in another series? |
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ToG25thBaam said: animalia said: Could you be more specific, please? ToG25thBaam said: in other word, he's forcing it into this narrative where Eva is even weaker in her personality than she was in Mahou Sensei Negima, and here comes Touta, a 13 yo(?) kid, who could "heal her heart". It not only destroys Eva's character for me, it makes Touta seem like a really generic shounen main protagonist, who says things that don't really go along with his "true" character, and not his generic "shounen mc" persona. That's not only it. I just can't see it, because Yukihime basically raised the kid, he was like her own child, and if Yukihime falls in love with Touta, I am so done with this. I don't see what Touta has done to her, that Negi has not tried to, or Nagi. If you want me to be even more specific than that, I would have to reread the series. What benefit does this give the series to have Touta falls in love with Yukihime, a romantic love instead of a platonic family love? Why Touta, when he is just a youngster who has not experienced the real world and can only talk out of his ass? Because he is the protagonist? How does Touta's train of thought works? Like a typical main character you would see in another series? I'll grant you it being romantic seems weird to me to., at this point at least. That isn't to say there isn't room for this to change as his characterization grows. |
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TheTsunami said: Oh my god these last couple chapters have been beating me senseless with hype and feels.The last panel though... |
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| The absolute madman actually proposed lol Yukihime’s rejection was hilarious! I’m not actually a big fan of the ship but this chapter was still really enjoyable. |
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