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Aug 19, 2016 8:47 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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After seeing many cameos by Kira, I'm glad to finally see the episode being focused around him! About time.

Shigekiyo also make an appearance again and looks like he messed up with the bag he took. Kira's character design is awesome and I just love his personality.


Aug 19, 2016 8:50 AM
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Anime David Bowie is finally here along with Killer Queen, one of Araki's favourite stands to draw.
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Aug 19, 2016 9:09 AM
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Wow, this episode looked bad. Really bad. Like, Dio's World TV version levels of bad.

It's as if they knew about the whole Duwang thing and decided to make the episode look like shit to even further the meme.

But hey, at least that one episode with the Rat looked great! It's not like this was the most important episode of the show thus far and introduced the main villain for real. No need to have any quality control for this one, just hand it off to the Koreans.
Aug 19, 2016 9:31 AM
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David Pro let me down. This level of animation for Kira? Hell even last week's episode looked better. Sigh, it was straight up bad animation no other way round it. Too much outsourcing going on with china and korea etc. They better not fuck up upcoming episodes. Anyway I'm not gona throw a fit over this, just disappointed. 39 eps was too much I guess. They should have split it up into two seasons.

Aug 19, 2016 9:38 AM
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Killer Queen, one of Araki's favourite stands to draw.

If only David felt the same way.
Aug 19, 2016 9:43 AM
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Oh man that Killer Queen looks awful, not going to lie. I wish they had just shown it next week instead.
Aug 19, 2016 10:06 AM
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Waiting to watch the episode. I've been long anticipating. they seriously outsourced this one, Kira's episode, FOR REAL?? they fucked up Killer Queen?? Does DP even need to do this?
Aug 19, 2016 10:09 AM
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The art and animations weren't that bad imo. Some parts did look a little lame though, but it wasn't too bad. Killer Queen (CR made it Deadly Queen smh), looks pretty "meh", but we only got to see it for a couple of seconds so hopefully it looks better in the next episode. Other than that the pacing was slower than I expected. They adapted 3 and a half chapters. I'm guessing they will adapt a tad bit of Sheer Heart Attack next episode, after they finish adapting the rest of Quiet Life + The People of Morioh. But Kira's VA is great and this episode was enjoyable from beginning to end. Favorite episode so far.

5/5
Aug 19, 2016 10:11 AM
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Kira's such a cute
Aug 19, 2016 10:24 AM

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While the animation wasn't the best, the music, Kira's voice actor and the overall 'feel' was all supurb.

I really kinda felt like I was rooting for Kira to hide his crime. Though that would've been the most beneficial to the characters.
He really seems like a very intellegent villain, which is kinda the norm for the main villain in Jojo.
What is differend is his goals in life. Both Kars and Dio had giant god complexes, while Kira is obsessed with a quiet life.
It's really a relatable but strange goal. Especially for a main villain.
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Aug 19, 2016 10:27 AM
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Let the BD version fix Killer Queen and all done. The release at least looked really nice. ^^
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Aug 19, 2016 10:30 AM
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Finally Kira is here, even before starting this episode i knew it would be hype.
Kira looks fine for the most part, but Killer Queen looked fucking awful in this episode, I sure hope this is not the standard, this is where you're supposed to dump a lot of budget David P.
"Deadly Queen" goddamn.
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I'm trying to wrap my head around this... WHY?? WHY DP??

Jesus, why the hell would you take the most anticipated episode so far and demolish it with such unbearably awful drawings and animations? I mean I actually shouted WTF when they showed Killer Queen (now Deadly Queen, because we couldn't find a more stupid name) like a three year old's scribble. I am actually baffled, DP. Kudos. Really. 2/5, first time giving JoJo such a low score.
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Aug 19, 2016 10:43 AM

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When you want to live a quiet life, but some kid steals your girlfriend right in front of you.
Aug 19, 2016 10:51 AM

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People really need to chill about the quality of this episode. Like every other anime, they'll probably patch up the weird drawings in the BDs or something.

I'm assuming they're saving their budget for the real fight that's coming up in 2 episodes.
Aug 19, 2016 11:09 AM

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I didn't think the animation was bad outside of the last second scene of Killer Queen's sloppy drawing. What bothered me more was the slow pacing from when Shigechi and the Bro's arrived. I guess they were trying to add tension with Kira tailing them, but I just wanted the plot to push through up until Shigechi catches Kira.

What I was concerned with when waiting for Killer Queen's arrival was how they would scale back his design to reduce the time to animate. He has very intricate designs on his gloves, belt buckle and shoulders, so it was inevitable the art/animation staff would have to cut down his design to make the animator's time easier.



Seeing this is very disappointing, but he was only on-screen for two seconds. I hope it isn't nearly as bad next week 'cos I bloody love Killer Queen's design.



At least he looked badass in this scene. Everyone ready to see shit blow up? :P
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Aug 19, 2016 11:21 AM

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The way they showed Kira's personality and his sick habits were superb.Also,the whole episode was creepy and agonizing.Ok,the episode wasn't the best in terms of animation but I think it will improve in the next episodes.
Aug 19, 2016 11:30 AM

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This was the worst looking episode so far.
Aug 19, 2016 11:32 AM

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Huh. I had no idea that Kira can go SSJ too :D His theme is cool tho.

Also did anyone actually believe CR would not use "Deadly Queen"?
Aug 19, 2016 11:34 AM

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galimx said:
Killer Queen eyes looked a little weird when it appeared for the first time, but other than that it was okey. Could have been better tho, because this was an important episode. Looking forward to part 2 and Sheer Heart Attack more.


I think they might've altered the design of Queen's face for the adaption, 'cos I found this on Twitter.



A way better rendition of Killer Queen, but the face still looks different than the manga design. It looks like they scaled down the eyes and given stronger cheekbones. Maybe they're trying to make him look more intimidating than his cat face? It could change next week, but it's just something I noticed.
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Aug 19, 2016 11:36 AM

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This episode was intense!
There were many moments when I thought that they will see the hand and they didn't.
And I was starting to think that Kira will walk away like nothing happened, Shigechi saw the hand.
Aug 19, 2016 11:39 AM

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I've enjoyed the episode even though some faces were pretty weird, but I appreciated the close up draws, they were absolutely gorgeous.
Aug 19, 2016 11:39 AM

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This episode was intense!
There were many moments when I thought that they will see the hand and they didn't.
And I was starting to think that Kira will walk away like nothing happened, Shigechi saw the hand.


Prepare yourself for next week. Things are about to get... explosive.
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Aug 19, 2016 11:45 AM

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Next episode better look nicer than anything else so far because this was barely passable for me. I waited 20 episodes to see Killer Queen and you gave us this... the rat episode looked fucking amazing but for Killer Queen NOPE can't do.
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"Tonia will be amazing!" (an alright executed twist) My ass.
"Kira will be the best part of JoJo!" Fuck no.
Every hyped arc was a let down. The really good episodes/arcs in Jojo Part 4 weren't even hyped (Angelo, Nijimura).
Aug 19, 2016 12:21 PM
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Wow animation quality is really bad, AND I FREAKING HATE KILLER QUEEN'S ANIME DESIGN... Oh well, budget works again. Waiting for the Blu-ray for this episode.
Aug 19, 2016 12:32 PM

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A good episode.
This creepy Kira look interesting.
Shigechi was a lot fun since his introduction, I'm afraid he is gonna die.
Aug 19, 2016 12:33 PM
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Nycro said:
"Tonia will be amazing!" (an alright executed twist) My ass.
"Kira will be the best part of JoJo!" Fuck no.
Every hyped arc was a let down. The really good episodes/arcs in Jojo Part 4 weren't even hyped (Angelo, Nijimura).


So, it's the first episode with a real appearance from the main villain and you are already saying that "Kira's arc" is a letdown? Lol.
Aug 19, 2016 12:35 PM

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When people are saying the animation was terrible, are they only talking about the Killer Queen scene? 'cos that's the only part that stood out to me as bad. One badly drawn scene =/= a badly animated episode.
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Aug 19, 2016 12:38 PM

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Great job, it's not like this was a pretty important episode and a pretty important moment to fuck up

don't tell me they are already saving budget for part 5
Aug 19, 2016 12:41 PM

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Paralysis said:
When people are saying the animation was terrible, are they only talking about the Killer Queen scene? 'cos that's the only part that stood out to me as bad. One badly drawn scene =/= a badly animated episode.


Nope, the whole Prep Room scene (minus Kira's reactions) & Shigechi's running animations also looking bad.
Aug 19, 2016 12:52 PM

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Nope, the whole Prep Room scene (minus Kira's reactions) & Shigechi's running animations also looking bad.


I just had a quick look back at these scenes. I don't really see anything bad with the prep room scene, and Shigechi is a weird-looking character anyway. I will say though that his proportions kept changing throughout the episode. Sometimes his head would grow and shrink in proportion to his body. He REALLY looks weird standing next to Kira, like he doesn't fit within the show.
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Aug 19, 2016 1:21 PM

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Glad to see that all the Kira hype from the manga readers wasn't without merit.

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Does anyone know the name of the song with the first few minutes of the episode when Kira gave the ring? The english song...

I was wondering the same thing. I tried searching the lyrics, but came up with nothing. :/
Aug 19, 2016 1:27 PM

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galimx said:
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Glad to see that all the Kira hype from the manga readers wasn't without merit.


I was wondering the same thing. I tried searching the lyrics, but came up with nothing. :/

Yeah, I tried to google the lyrics but no luck. Maybe its an original soundtrack it will be released later or?


Remember the first episode with the Radio track? This one is the same kind, i mean anime soundtrack original song.
Aug 19, 2016 1:29 PM

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Yeah, I tried to google the lyrics but no luck. Maybe its an original soundtrack it will be released later or?

There are soundtracks for the previous seasons of JoJo, so if it's an original song then I would assume so.
Guess we'll just have to see. @.@

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Remember the first episode with the Radio track? This one is the same kind, i mean anime soundtrack original song.

Ah, icic.
Aug 19, 2016 1:56 PM
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Really enjoyed the atmosphere and suspense this episode.
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Aug 19, 2016 2:12 PM

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Really loved the episode, I couldn't really see that much of a let down art-wise except with Shigechi which was really handled badly the entire episode. He kept changing sizes. I can see why people think Killer queen was badly drawn too but it wasn't that bad to me. Kira is an interesting character though, can't wait for next week!

5/5
Aug 19, 2016 3:23 PM

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Kira sends shivers down my spine omfg. Killer Queen !!!!
Aug 19, 2016 3:24 PM

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Killer Queen hype! Now that the cats out of the bag, I'm looking forward to next week's killer episode! This is hands down one of the easiest puns for me today.
Aug 19, 2016 3:33 PM

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I think they're going with Killer Queen's 'later' design, if you catch my drift.

MadHouse did the same thing with Neferpitou in HxH - go with her final, most-feminine design from the get-go instead of going through like the three different ways Pitou was drawn over the course of the 7 years he/she appeared as the manga was published.

This is a pretty common thing for anime studios to do, from what I can tell.

OH -- and that episode of HxH was also animated by the same Korean group, DR MOVIE! lololol
ShigyCAug 19, 2016 4:04 PM
Always remember that anime is a niche medium in Japan. Manga sells way better
Aug 19, 2016 3:44 PM

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I really liked this episode i don't understand why a lot of people are complaining about the animation i thought it was pretty decent there were a few parts where face models looked a bit off and that one shot of killer queen was a bit awkward but the other shots were great i thought i think the slight dip in quality we are seeing is because this will be a lot longer than most anime adaptations they should have done two seasons i think to make sure it was top quality but i'm happy with what we got also i think that one shot of killer queen was just a fluke and that it will look pretty good from now on at least i hope but yeah great episode overall so much Kira hype i like his personality can wait to see killer queen in action next week ahhh i cant wait haha 4/5 :D
Aug 19, 2016 3:57 PM

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The animation quality wasn't very good this episode (most notably with Killer Queen at the end, it really should've had more detail in its first appearance) but it was a good episode otherwise.
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Aug 19, 2016 4:35 PM

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This episode was intense wow, I found myself rooting for Kira. I hope Killer Queen looks better in the future, it's my favorite stand ever. But they captured the overall vibe very well imo.
Aug 19, 2016 4:49 PM

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Nycro said:
"Tonia will be amazing!" (an alright executed twist) My ass.
"Kira will be the best part of JoJo!" Fuck no.
Every hyped arc was a let down. The really good episodes/arcs in Jojo Part 4 weren't even hyped (Angelo, Nijimura).

What the fuck is this guy on about lmao
The tonio episode were amazing, and this eps only get called shit only once they half-assedly draw killer queen

The rest was amazing. But they should've stop at the silhouette imo. It looks better than the reveal.

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Aug 19, 2016 6:13 PM

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Kira is so freaking creepy with that hand.
Dick move with the Sandwich. He just had to lick the sauce off her fingers.

Kira's dark aura is so menacing. All he wants is a quiet life. First time seeing Killer Queen.
Shigechi is in trouble.
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Nycro said:
"Tonia will be amazing!" (an alright executed twist) My ass.
"Kira will be the best part of JoJo!" Fuck no.
Every hyped arc was a let down. The really good episodes/arcs in Jojo Part 4 weren't even hyped (Angelo, Nijimura).

Kira is the best part of part 4.You just saw the first episode of the main villain.
Aug 19, 2016 6:41 PM

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Nycro said:
"Tonia will be amazing!" (an alright executed twist) My ass.
"Kira will be the best part of JoJo!" Fuck no.
Every hyped arc was a let down. The really good episodes/arcs in Jojo Part 4 weren't even hyped (Angelo, Nijimura).


I kinda agree. Tonia sucked so bad and I thought angelo was one of the best parts that nobody even acknowledged. I'm neutral to nijimura but still feel it's better than most of the stand battles. I think Kira will be the best part we just haven't seen enough to know for sure.
Aug 19, 2016 7:48 PM

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Killer Queen cloaked in shadows looked so impressive, but then it has to derp up. A shame because everything else was really spot on.

Looked pretty good here though.
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I had a feeling so complicated..... But what a beatiful Duwang!!!

The god of all villains is finally here is a shame that the visual area wasn't as amazing as the source, sound, music and seiyuu departmente were.

Kira is here and I am s fucking happy that my heart, brain and soul is about to explode of delight.

Loving this chapter in his BD edition. For now just 9/10 for that irregular visuals.
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