Monogatari Series: Second Season
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| HOLY SHIT DAT CLIFFHANGER Kaiki, the deceiver who just got deceived. RIP mate. |
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| So, does Nadeko has her inner world, listening only to herself as Hanekawa said? I found it hard to believe it as Ougi was clearly influencing her ascendence back then but who knows. I just really wonder if Hanekawa manages to save Nadeko in the end. Ooh, and Oshino Ougi was mentioned again, this time indirectly by Hanekawa, what a coincidence. And now it seem she really isn't his niece, rather some aberration he gave a name to control it, like he did with Shinobu. Well, well. And again, what the hell was in that closet. Now I'm curious. Really curious. I may be wrong but maybe Kaiki was enjoying his daily visits to the shrine in the end? Also Numachi Rouka? It may seem insignificant but I bet it'll turn out to be someone highly important. But what happened afterwards... Yes, he's the kind of person that actually cares. Could it be that Senjougahara see through this? Could it be she wanted to ditch Araragi and start dating Kaiki to change Nadeko's decision and save him in the process? Or is there some lingering feeling both of them have towards each other? Was that talk about holding the grudge against him forever meant more like she never really stopped regarding him highly even after what they went through? And was him destroying that cult another proof of their relationship that never really ended? lol at the ending though :D And Yotsugi actually warned him before. It was actually Nadeko who was decieving Kaiki from the start :)) So fitting for a snake. |
| Oh damn, I really hope Kaiki survives somehow... :( |
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| Yea no way Nadeko would believe near immortal Araragi dies in a car crash, Kaiki is planning something further than he has lead on. Interesting the notion he deceived the Senjougahara family for Hitagi's sake. So Numachi Rouka? |
| Ooooww damn, it didn't work?wonder what Kaiki will do now |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| Uh oh....we are screwed now. |
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| Lmao they really pulled it all the way to the last episode. The only hope lies inside that closet right now hahaha. |
| Damn I'm so hyped for the last episode now! Thought from the very beginning that the story with that car accident was kinda weak, I hope Kaiki has an ace up his sleeve now ^^ |
| This episode confirms that Kaiki is a good guy after all but sadly it looks like he may not live as we can all see at the ending there. 😭😭 |
| OMG things are getting intense here!! She did not take the bait 0.0 |
| RIP KAIKI... fuck u nadeko. FUCK UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
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| oh shit oh shit oh shittt kaikii boyyy she saw through that like quick af! all that money all that screentime(which i highly enjoyed) whyyy or does nadeko not really know? hmm |
| Shiiiiiiitttttttttt!!!!!!! Kaiki you fucked up |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| "So Mr. Kaiki, you're going to deceive ME as well?" Oh shit. |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
| GODDAMMIT. Kind of hoping Kaiki didn't really get deceived and this is the result he was after the entire time though. Like a twist within a twist- perhaps he's been deceiving the audience all along...he does acknowledge as much at the beginning of the arc. I mean the theme of this whole arc seems to be "the truth within a lie" and visa versa. I keep thinking back to when he said the actual truth always comes second to the longing for truth, so in that sense the truth we're looking for doesn't really exist?? Maybe he's not a bad guy or a good one- he simply did what he did for Senjougahara because he did, and there's no deeper meaning beyond what is. After all, doesn't he believe the "truth" is unstable? So everything has got to be taken with a pinch of salt. And the whole "fake becoming the real thing" business. Kind of like what Kagenui said- "Phony. And thus, by definition, deliberate. He said all good is thereby hypocrisy, and therefore one must make a deliberate attempt to be good" but it kind of seems that Kaiki is doing the opposite of that. Or at the very least, he's trying to hard to make it look like his good deeds towards Senjougahara are actually in-genuine. So the idea of lies becoming truth. I mean, Kaiki tells the audience both he and Senjougahara are lying to each other on the phone, but couldn't that statement in and of itself be a lie? Like the truth within a lie within another lie. and here I thought Araragi's narrative was unreliable Gahara and Kaiki are as bad as each other lmao |
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| OH KAIKI DON'T YOU DARE TO GET KILL ON ME. I'm so scared >_____________________< |
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| Bruuuuuuh, even Hanekawa dislike Nadeko. Lmfaooo everyone hates her. #Confirmed Nice to see Ononoki again. Yeah yeah. What the fuck? Did Kaiki fail at deceiving Nadeko? Holy fucking shit! Nooooo. I don't want Kaiki to die or get hurt. Nope nope fucking nope. |
     "Maybe he's trying to take a shit, but the shit just won't come out." Captain Levi, 2014 (／^-^)／☆♪  ♪☆＼(^０^＼) |
| Great episode. So kaiki was the good guy after all, he was just pretending to be bad. Well i really like him now, and his arguments on the next episode are really deep. |
| After all he still tried to go with this weak lie? Even though he was convinced of her being that stupid and naiv that's all he came up with?! I hope being this direct and receiving this reaction was part of his plan. I don't want to see my second favorite character die right before his magnificant arc ends... |
| At this point how can we all not agree that Kaiki is best girl!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? |
| “I love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!” - Monkey D. Luffy |
| Kaika already knew about Rouka, that's interesting. |
| Another great episode! There's just one more ep to finish... I'll miss it. RIP Kaiki... |
"No matter where you go, everyone's connected." Iwakura, Lain. |
| I used to dislike Kaiki back then, but my perspective of him, at the very least changed, I don't dislike him but I don't like him either, he's an awkward guy, but he's not necessarily a bad guy. Oh and shit, Nadeko caught on, time for the climax then. |
| “What do you do when there is an evil you cannot defeat by just means? Do you stain your hands with evil to destroy evil? Or do you remain steadfastly just and righteous even if it means surrendering to evil?” ― Lelouch Vi Britannia |
| Oshino doesn't have any family. That means Ougi is somewhat a con too. I wonder if her real name is what Kaiki mentioned in the episode, Numachi Rouka. Kaiki strikes again. He's actually a good guy lol. That cliffhanger tho. And she said "deceived me AS WELL." As well? If this was not a subtitle mistake then she was deceived by someone other than Kaiki. |
| He who smiles in a crisis has found someone to blame. |
| Don't die on me Kaiki First best girl Mayoi, I don't want second best girl Kaiki to also leave |
| I'm currently rewatching this season at the time of this forum post, and it surprises me that no one on this forum has connected Numachi Rouka to a certain other anime... I won't spoil it but still. |
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| Oh no... that ending... *Kaiki is so dead* |
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| kaiki is such a boss |
| Based Certified. I love anime armpits. |
| Kaiki... those red eyes gleaming at him... |
  Floating Around... "You're loved as deeply as the ocean reaches"  |
| Alright so shit is about to get real on the last episode looking forward to it. So Kaiki was always the good guy pretending to be a bad guy..what a genius man, and also how the fuck did she know now that's fucking damn Interesting. What a masterpiece<3 |
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| Oh damn, so he was kinda looking out for Hitagi way back then? It's a bit hard to tell if he was telling the truth while talking to Yotsugi, but as the convo went on it seems like he was. I knew that he couldn't be that bad of a guy. Oh yeah they didn't show Episode again after that 'episode' he appeared in. I really want an explanation to what he was doing then. Oh god! She didn't fall for it! She knew?! How?!?! Doesn't matter anymore, run Kaiki, run! |
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| Golly, just one more episode. This season was always one I held in high regard |
| One more episode to go. Show us what u got in your bag Kaiki. |
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| At this point, it's really hard to dislike Kaiki. He even ruined Senjougahara's parents' relationship for her sake. Now that's cute. I loved how the tsundere responded with that it doesn't take away the ill and suffering he has brought upon her to make him think that she wasn't grateful. It makes sense, though, he was very convincing in telling Senjougahra about his future success. Hahaha, lol. However, it looks like he gravely underestimated Nadeko. Yep, he is totally fucked alright . I had a strong hunch she was just playing along. Even I would be very suspicious if a dude suddenly showed up to play with me. LOL. I am too curious if this is going to be his funeral or not, so I am going to watch the last ep. of the second season. It would be sad if they killed him off like that, but it may be good for the story, though. |
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Tomaton said: So... was it deception, deception within deception or deception within deception within deception? OP is just hilarious, I guess it's the first one in whole monogatari series I have never skipped... Damn dat show's definitely fall's and probably year's best. A third-degree decepTION. xD |
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| Holy fuck what an amazing episode, they really setting up Ougi as a big villain or some sort, looking forward to that. And glad that I watched the series in novel order, so I know who Numachi Rouka is, R.I.P. That Ononoki and Kaiki conversation was so good, along with the track playing in the background, Imma need to find that ost. I can definitely say now that Kaiki best girl, and he sings in the OP, he fits all the best girl qualities lmao. I don't know if what Ononoki said about Kaiki looking out for Senjougahara is true, but it probably is, I can believe it as long as it didn't come from Kaiki's mouth itself. Yo, that cliffhanger, but Kaiki is probably just making her think that he's deceiving her and that he failed, but in actuality it's all according to keikaku. Damn, this whole season has been so fucking good, and I can tell already that the last episode will be a banger as well. |
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| So Kaiki may have been looking out for Senjougahara all this time. He separated her parents for her sake(as her mother was in that shitty cult). What a wonderful anti-hero! Nadeko knows and she probably already knew about the plan the whole time. Of course their plan wouldn't work as there wouldn't be any thrill if it did. The cliffhanger's epic and all but what the fuck is in that closet? |
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| Aw sh*t. Well f*ck. Dang. RIP. gg. It was a valiant effort at the very least. |
  NYANPASU  5700XT |
| I'm loving this arc so far. I'm worried about Kaiki... is he gonna die? |
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| Kaiki better run for his life he Flubbed it the plan didn’t work |
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| Well, the closet made me make a lot of theories in my mind. It turns out to be just one of Nadeko Sengoku's hidden hobbies. |
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| Welp, RIP Kaiki. Do not like that look Sengoku has going on. Unless, of course, this was his plan all along. He did warn the audience to not believe his words at the beginning of this arc after all. |
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