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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Kind of ready for a multi episode arc to start up but the history provided of the true take on the first encounter worked well to provide some background for the captain and most events. Though who would be right in that situation, if they hadnt fired back then wouldnt we still be at the same outcome, Gamillians of the present dont seem to be all that peaceful and seemed bent out on galactic conquest. Kodai was really exception this episode in trying to build trust. Kind of felt a bit bad for Shima though and trying to battle his emotions with reality. I hope he can stay strong and doesn't get too caught up in the revenge idea. He shoudl confide or seek help from Kodai they can relate. |
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| Yeah, this episode really prompted a wtf moment when they revisited the opening of the war. It looks like the captain and the engineering officer may be about the only ones who know the truth though (and Shima if he accepts it). The DNA match was another surprise as well, since as a blue skinned Gamillian she is one of the elite. |
Please don't feed the trolls! In my next life I want to collide at the corner with the cute transfer student carrying a piece of toast in her mouth...rodac |
AiCon said: Also, who knew that the Gamillian officer they had would have the same DNA as humans? That was a big surprise there as well. That was to be expected just by looking at their appearance, they look exactly like humans except for the color of the skin. |
| I think that during Star Trek: Deep Space 9 it was mentioned that most of the intelligent humanoid species appeared to have descended from a fore-runner species. Certainly they were capable of interbreeding as we saw examples of human/vulcan, human/klingon, and bajoran/cardassian crosses and interspecies romantic relationships and marriages were fairly common. You may also remember that Worf was once asked why the klingons of the original Star Trek (Captain Kirk) era looked so much more like humans--his response was "It's something we don't discuss with outsiders" and a sudden change of subject. |
Please don't feed the trolls! In my next life I want to collide at the corner with the cute transfer student carrying a piece of toast in her mouth...rodac |
AiCon said: Posse said: That's nice that you figured it out since they are supposed to be aliens. Using your analogy, the Vulcans and Romulans in Star Trek must be humans when first encountered since they look so human-like -- Hence the surprise.AiCon said: Also, who knew that the Gamillian officer they had would have the same DNA as humans? That was a big surprise there as well. That was to be expected just by looking at their appearance, they look exactly like humans except for the color of the skin. Didn't watch Star Trek so I've no idea what you're talking about, what I mean is that the fact that these Gamilians have an almost identical DNA as humans when they have the same appearance didn't surprise me at all. |
| Sure it took me a while to watch these new episodes but here I am. and wow I was wrong? I never thought they would make a whole "humans are the ones that started everything" situation... I still think we have the main point - who is the bad guy who is the good guy maybe no one - so let's see what they have planned. This remake is already quite different from the original series and now I'm not really sure if this is going to be good... maybe it'll since I'm enjoying it a lot too but it'll be a shame for people that are watching this version first and won't check the older one later... |
| 5/5 A good episode, that of jumping into the past reveals what has brought the earth to be a hostile and almost uninhabited place. Although there is still much to be discovered, why the aliens have reached the solar system in the Milky Way. Intriguing Mori! Drawings not bad, the backgrounds are worthy of an OAV! Satisfied with the episode! |
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| I'm missing the old ED actually, Red Scarf is a classic although the new ED is nice in it's own way. So humans fired first? Doesn't surprise me but I agree with those that say that it wouldn't have mattered anyway. The Gamillians are very agressive an hellbent on domination of others. Good reveal though and it exposes the different frames of mind in the crew. Akira and Yuki are getting along surprisingly enough. Yuki is bound to be revealed as "alien" at some point too. I wonder how they take that. I don't like the security chief at all. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Damn firing first seems like a stupid thing to do. Anyways great episode as always. I like the new ED song |
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| I love the ending song! |
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| Hell, that reveal bit suprised me, dunno but I had the feeling that humans first attacked within the last few episodes. Also, Garmillans have the same DNA as humans? Well, that is one hint at something. I guess. More Akira moments is always good for your health. With some fanservice. |
"The one true, unchanging righteousness in the world is..cuteness! Cute makes right! All our needs, desires, and instincts seek cuteness, and it is for cuteness that we will give everything we have! That's just the way men are!" - Sora |
| War can not be described with words. It has multiple faces. Beautiful ED song. Absolutely loved it. |
| Since these commanders are named after the Shinsengumi I knew Serizawa would be the person who would command to open fire first. Bag of dicks in every anime adaption he is in. xD |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
| wow, so it was actually humans who started the war. who knows how the story would've progressed if not for that... |
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| Yeaaah, this episode was no good. Bad drama and fan service. Plus, whatever could be the reason to fire first... Seems like they didn't even listen to the ultimatum before firing. Hey, some technologically advanced aliens showed up, let's attack them for nothing. |
| Oh great, the man leading humanity turned out to be a complete idiot who screwed whatever chance humanity had at a friendly contact with the aliens by using brute force. Shima's gotta stop being such a douche and start using his head. |
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| Pretty nice closure of this "arc", and with that I do wonder if they'll meet again in the future. Either way a pretty lovely episode. Let's see what's next! |
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| Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2199 seems to be hurtling symbolic event after symbolic event at the audience. I'm not really sure how to respond to it. It seems at times to be very forced, like they're trying to jam pack this anime with every moral consideration known to man, but I have to admit that the execution works rather well. Humanity - Episode 9 Trust - Episode 10 Honor - Episode 11 Each of the last few episodes has touched on some deep and meaningful topics, and I can really appreciate it. It takes a regular sci-fi/military anime and goes beyond the action to convey a story that we should reflect on as we watch it. |
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| I wanted Melda to stay, she added something interesting to the cast, its a pity she has to leave. Good Episode. |
| So I'm rewatching the series for a second time and noticed that the maneuver that Melda is an actual real life flight maneuver. It's called the Pugachev's Cobra where the a lead plane can slow down enough to end up behind the chaser. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pugachev%27s_Cobra |
| I suppose it was too much to ask for a Garmillan crew member :( I knew the whole "Garmillans attacked first" thing had to be propaganda. |
| Anime series that always manages to surprise me, this time thanks to a speech threaded to art, which subverts a truth that until now was taken for granted from the beginning, or who had started the war between aliens and terrestrial, which also serves as a lesson: the rancora makes blind. Too bad that Melda leaves so soon, it was not bad to know anything else about her. Great graphics, the new ending is really catchy, I like it very much. The title of the episode is revealing. |
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| "Never trust an alien" Literally the entire point of their mission is to go get space air refreshers from some alienz |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Much prefer the original version of the OP. That's a significant story revelation if it was the humans who attacked first, could potential change how you look at things but then again having already seen the Gamillas, it feels like they would've attacked anyway even if the humans hadn't. Melda's treatment felt a bit naive to me, being in war she could've been valuable to use as a hostage or leverage some sort of deal but perhaps speaks of the nature of the captain instead. |
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Reply to rodmanii
@Comander-07 oh you see, is really simple, "never trust an alien that fucking destroys your planet with constant planetary bombs", there you go
| @rodmanii its been 6 years, I have exactly 0 memory of the context. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
Reply to rodmanii
@Comander-07 what?
| @rodmanii exactly |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
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