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May 23, 2013 12:21 AM
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Damn, Suzaku's a boss, hella raped that machine gun lol

Loved this episode, lot of twists.
Jun 11, 2013 6:08 PM

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Sick episode, I love genius protagonists. Although why didn't Lelouch just put his hand on the scale? xD

Suzaku's hypocritical nature is becoming more evident after that backstory.

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Well I feel trolled...who knew that Mao would survive?

Dusk252 said:

For all of you who complained about the scale: if Lelouch even thought about cheating (aka putting his hand on the black side of the scale), Mao would know beforehand (did you forget he can read thoughts?). During the one second Lelouch would be deciding whether to risk it or not (he's a fast thinker but he can't do anything without rationalizing), Mao could do put his hand on the white side. Knowing his thoughts beforehand, Mao would always had the upper hand when it comes to time, even if for a mere second. So, that was a stupid option. Lelouch was damn smart in using the geass on himself with the mirror. That was an amazing move.


Well that's true, but if Lulu was really desperate, he would've tried it anyways. Instead he just stood there looking shocked. I mean if either way, the bomb was going to be triggered, by (1) Mao putting one last piece down on the scale or (2) Mao reading Lulu's mind that Lulu will try to push down on his side of the scale and therefore stop Lulu and still trigger the bomb, then why wouldn't Lulu make one last desperate attempt despite it having 100% chance of failure? Well it's whatever. It was definitely smart of Lulu to use the Geass on himself, but I wasn't surprised that he did since he definitely didn't look like he was acting and the situation felt really similar to something that happened in another anime. But someone said that a reflection isn't really a direct look...it's probably something like C.C.'s powers penetrating through Lancelot's armor and onto Suzaku, I'm just thinking too much. My suspension of disbelief seems to be malfunctioning.

Ahh Suzaku. Most of us don't like him because we find him hypocritical, but I think what Mao said was interesting, that Suzaku is trying to pay penance by putting himself into dangerous situations which could cause him to die. Seems like he is a much more complex character than I originally thought he was. I mean he's still preachy and hypocritical, but I guess he's going through a lot of unconscious internal conflict :/

Oh and nvm my post from the last discussion...I guess Villetta is really, conveniently, an amnesiac. And yeah, I agree that Suzaku is a little OP running on walls and jumping high enough to kick down the machine gun (I guess it's due to his long legs being able to reach it).

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Jun 30, 2013 7:50 PM

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I couldn't take Mao seriously after he lost his voice. He just looked so...derpy.

Lovin' the strategizing as usual. Wish more people had Geass so we could see fights like these more often.

Yeah the thing about him just putting his hand on the scale. I would have done that for sure.
Aug 13, 2013 7:14 PM

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Decent episode I guess, but damn, Suzaku moved at insane speeds to dodge the minigun...
Aug 13, 2013 9:14 PM

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After 3 episodes of him, Mao definitely seems like a waste of a character, finally someone else with Geass and...meh. I was hoping it'd be Jeremiah or Suzaku that eventually got a power for foil purposes. Then again there's lots of story I still need to see. I liked the Suzaku development at the end at least so I guess this wasn't completely pointless. Also I'm pretty sure either CC or LeLouch himself said his Geass works as long as he makes eye contact in any form, it's one of the earliest episodes when he's testing it. So with that in mind the mirror thing made sense to me and was pretty ballsy so I can respect it.

Looking forward to the next episode since it looks like things are going to pick up again.
Aug 20, 2013 11:13 PM

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Pewdie said:
Ok, I know Lulus plan against Maos bomb was great and all.. but wouldn't it be smarter just to put down your hand on that weight in order to disarm the bomb? Those were the rules right?
there were other things like: How can Mao setup such a complicated bomb around a school without no1 noticing? That rly disturbed me

....=) I can keep going but you'll get the point. Thats why I disliked this episode :<



That is so true but now we know that he is dead or at least we allhope he is poor Suzaku n pretty crafty Lelouch for using his Geass on himself.
Feb 4, 2014 1:28 PM
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These cliff-hangers mang...
Mar 10, 2014 7:06 AM
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The real question is what is a high tech machine gun doing in a school ?
May 16, 2014 10:09 AM

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More Backstorys *.*
May 21, 2014 2:22 PM

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Mao is a huge weirdo offering deathly chess games.. He had the most beautiful and dramatic deaths that I've ever seen though.
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Jun 5, 2014 2:51 AM

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I loved the ep. Although I hate Suzaku and his super human skills, I'll just live with it. I'm glad it was revealed he's not the true white knight as he portrays himself. No one mentioned it but I thought it was shocking Mao said that the only reason Suzaku puts himself in those crazy situations to save people was in fact to KILL HIMSELF. That's crazy. Subconsciously, he wants to die.

And I came to the same conclusions as the others did with the scale. The guy is reading your mind, I wouldn't dare try to touch the scale. Also losing his voice is actually pretty cruel considering Mao relies so much on his voice to portray his thoughts and feelings. He got what he deserved though I don't blame him for going psycho since LuLu try to kill him.

Jul 24, 2014 2:11 AM

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This was probably the most ridiculous episode I've seen so far of CG. It was still good, but Suzaku taking out the camera was too much lol.

Nice reveal though. I didn't expect the relationship with his father to be too big. But that's an interesting discovery.
Jul 26, 2014 1:04 AM

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Really good episode,let's see what happens next.

Sep 7, 2014 9:30 PM

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And checkmate.
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Sep 11, 2014 7:00 AM

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This episode should silence those people bitching about Suzaku so much. Suzaku was great this episode and got some good development too.

Lelouch was a genius to use geass on himself.



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Sep 16, 2014 2:11 PM

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Geez I knew he wasn't dead at all. Sick bastard, I hope he's dead for real now.
Sep 24, 2014 7:22 AM

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Using the geass on himself? Bloody brilliant!
Sep 29, 2014 7:33 AM

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Wow, what the fuck just happened? What a weak episode. I heard about Code Geass entering a level of bullshit but I really hope it's just this episode only.
Oct 4, 2014 12:12 AM

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Mao aka Mr. Clapper is still alive? Who woulda thought? Anyways That was some interesting backstory on Suzaku, and good thing Suzaku cut that wire or Nunally would have been toast. Hopefully Mr. Clapper is dead for good now.
Nov 17, 2014 8:14 PM

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I'm glad Suzaku's not displayed as purely good, since that doesn't
really exist irl. A great episode. Liked his shocked expression ^__^
Nov 19, 2014 9:04 AM

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Didn't expect a show like Code Geass to bring back dead characters for now reason and someone be able to dodge an automatic machinegun Oo
Well it was alright, but I hope it'll get better again.
Nov 28, 2014 7:30 PM

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(rewatching)

Shut up, Mao! /clap-clap-clap
C.C. got back just in time. She looked good with dark hair.
Suzaku's secret is exposed. Your camera-mounted-guns or no match for him.
Jan 12, 2015 5:02 PM

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A few problems in this episode..
-Lelouch could have just pushed the scale down to his side, game over
-Lelouch could have used his geass to just kill Mao, or make him go away
-Suzaku has officially entered the Matrix

And my biggest issue since a couple of episodes ago, this little side story about Re-L (I don't know her character name in this show, I just recognize the voice actress, she's the low-tier Britannian that guy found on the rocks outside the warehouse). Amnesia. Amnesia is such a convenient plot point. I really hope they make something good out of it later.

Good things:
-Suzaku's murderous history
-The little bit that Cornelia says about avenging Lelouch and Nunnally's deaths was interesting
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Jan 30, 2015 6:46 AM

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Couldn't Lelouch just pick all of Mao's chess pieces and place them on the scale without playing?
I mean he had his own plan after all but this would seem easier.

Kotori said:

- could just push the balance on this side with his hands
- could tell Mao to just die instead of shutting up

the balance part was really stupid

Yep. Now I can see its flaws when rewatching
Jan 30, 2015 7:44 AM

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HazukashiiDesu said:
Couldn't Lelouch just pick all of Mao's chess pieces and place them on the scale without playing?
I mean he had his own plan after all but this would seem easier.

Kotori said:

- could just push the balance on this side with his hands
- could tell Mao to just die instead of shutting up

the balance part was really stupid

Yep. Now I can see its flaws when rewatching

Well, even though it does seem stupid remember that Mao can read his mind, so very second Lelouch gets an idea Mao knows about it. With his sister's life on the line I do not think Lelouch can react so fast, so basically if Lelouch tries to cheat his way out, that very second he thinks about it and before he acts, Mao will know and do something about it.
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Feb 4, 2015 2:06 AM

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So Mao survived being riddles with 100 bullets? Ooooooooooooookay....let's hope he stays down like a bad dog this time.

As so Suzaku, you killed your dad because you thought it would end the war and stop the suffering...how's that working out Suzaku. He just got more annoying...
Feb 9, 2015 8:43 AM

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I loved the ep. Although I hate Suzaku and his super human skills, I'll just live with it. I'm glad it was revealed he's not the true white knight as he portrays himself. No one mentioned it but I thought it was shocking Mao said that the only reason Suzaku puts himself in those crazy situations to save people was in fact to KILL HIMSELF. That's crazy. Subconsciously, he wants to die.


Yeah, now it makes sense and I like Suzaku a bit more. He can't admit to himself that he killed the father for nothing, so he has no choice but to continue pursuing his ideals, but feels incongruence and subconsciously wants to die. Great revelation.
Mar 19, 2015 2:44 AM
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Hmm... People keep complaining about Lelouch not just tipping the scale... However there would have been risks for that. An unlikely one being, what if it reacted negatively towards anything but subtle movement, so individual chess pieces. The more likely issue is that fact that Mao can read his mind. He would have known if Lelouch was about to do that, and could have just as easily tilted it to his side.

Lelouch definitely made the right call this episode. And proved how smart of a bad-ass he was once again... After he realized that he was a bad-ass of course.
Apr 6, 2015 7:22 AM
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Okay, can't decide if this was the best or worst episode. Lulu could have told the police to kill him....yeah, WHY DIDN'T HE DO THAT? And he could have told Mao to kill himself, BUT HE DIDN'T DO THAT EITHER. But what came out of it, i have to admit, it was very intense and entertaining still <.<

Mao did so much shit in three episodes, wow

And Suzaku was displayed as very athletic before, so i can't buy the complaints about him in this thread just for the sake of hating him. I think, this episode redeemed his actions so far.
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Apr 25, 2015 12:33 PM

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The part where Suzuku dodges the surveillance cam/ machine gun was so badass.
It's nice to see his character get some more work.

Also,
"Your self-righteousness is just thinly-veiled masturbation"
Really? :/
May 18, 2015 4:43 AM
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Hopefully he is dead for real this time, great plan by Lelouch to outmuscle Mao tbh.
May 18, 2015 5:04 AM

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The twisted rapey kidnapper JUST SO HAPPENS TO SHAR THE SAM NAME AS THE CURRENT CHINESE EMPEROR. PURE COINCIDENCE.

Brilliant plan by Lelouche though.

lawlmartz said:
A few problems in this episode..
-Lelouch could have just pushed the scale down to his side, game over

For all he knew Mao had it rigged so that pushing the scales to his side would do nothing, meaning Mao could then set off the bomb as soon as Lelouche had cheated by pushing the scales back.

lawlmartz said:
-Lelouch could have used his geass to just kill Mao, or make him go away

I thought Mao was stopping Lelouche from making eye contact with his headphones/goggles.
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Sep 1, 2015 12:10 AM
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Pretty great episode in my opinion, minus a few silly things. Surprised Mao survived but I kind of thought it might happen anyway.

I really don't get the amount of people that watched this episode and said "Why doesn't Lelouch just push the scale down." Everyone knows that Mao's geass allows him to read minds, if Lelouch wanted to push his side down Mao would instantly know and just push his side down first. Even if Lelouch ended up being faster than Mao somehow, that is an extremely dangerous plan that would possibly kill the most important person in his life, she is also one of the main reasons he has done all of the things he has up until this point.

As for him commanding Mao to never speak again, he definitely could have told him to die but maybe it was just a spur of the moment decision or something, not like it matters anyway since C.C. laid him out as soon as he stepped out the door.

As for Suzaku...ugh. I'll admit I appreciate him being shown as not the goody goody white knight 24/7, shouts out to Mao for calling him out on it. But he still annoys me, although that opinion is probably just biased off of me thinking he's OP as hell and him opposing Lelouch's plans every single time. But he really is OP right now and the machine gun scene just illustrates that further, I was completely speechless watching that scene it was so silly.

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Also,
"Your self-righteousness is just thinly-veiled masturbation"
Really? :/

This translation is hilarious.
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this episode wtf. idk why i put this series on hold for so long after 15 episodes but im glad i picked it back up again.
Oct 3, 2015 11:55 PM

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It's impossibruh that Mao still alive, LOL.

LOL, it would be total humiliation when Lelouch handstand while searching, LOL.

This time, Mao really died. I'm glad. Also I won't accept the fact that C.C. Loves Mao???
No way XP

Sweet Viletta screen time there.
Oct 14, 2015 10:58 AM

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Damn, that was awesome!

5/5
Feb 4, 2016 11:38 AM

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Is Suzaku some sort of super soldier or something ? Was he experimented on ?
Because how t f could he do all that if he's just human ?

It was a good episode tho. I liked the twist.
Feb 19, 2016 6:22 PM
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Dumb af yet enjoyable.

4/5
Mar 1, 2016 5:46 PM

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Whoa, Suzaku, that's a big secret there.
Mar 8, 2016 3:37 PM

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Why Mao didn't exposed Lelouch's identity the moment he got healed up, still baffles me.

Just when I was finally happy for once to see Suzaka appear in a episode, we get this bomshell about his past dropped on us...Fucking hypocrite.
Jun 5, 2016 6:19 AM

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Whoah .. it does make sense .. I thought this was a filler .. very good episode ~ .
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it was nice seeing Suzaku getting rekt by Mao
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If Mao wanted to get back at Lelouch so much, wouldn't there be much simpler and more effective ways? Why go through all the trouble of setting up a pendulum bomb at a school (which shouldn't even had been possible), and making a game out of it? I get that he wanted to humiliate Lelouch by making him accept defeat while also killing the most important person in his life, but wouldn't it be better to do something like making him watch him kill her, and then tell the world that he is Zero? For example he could try to make him confess that he is Zero by saying he will kill Nanaly if he doesn't, and when he confesses he could broadcast the confession and then kill Nanaly anyways. Much simpler than using a high tech bomb, and probably also more effective.

Also the way Suzaku avoided the machine gun and was able to disable the bomb seemed a bit far fetched to me, and I thought the bit about him killing his father was rather obvious? There was a weird flashback some time ago that made Suzaku go crazy and they said his father had made suicide right before starting a rebellion. I just kinda figured it would made sense if he had killed him.

And I found it weird that Lelouch's eyes didn't have that red glow to them that others affected by the geass use to have.

And how in the world did Mao survive all those bullets in the last episode? There were some sparks around him as he "died" so does that mean he was some kind of cyborg or were they some kind of electric bullets? Does that have anything to do with his magical healing powers?

And of course I still think it's pretty dump that they explain Shirley's memory loss with a fight where she pretends she doesn't know him. How long is that explanation gonna last?
Mar 1, 2017 12:40 PM

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Did not expect Mao to come back. And considering he's probably forreal dead now questioning what the point of it was. Still a really solid episode. We hadn't seen Lelouch and Suzaku seriously interact in awhile. And Mao's little chess game trap was pretty clever. Also the twist that Lelouch used his Geass on himself was kind of crazy. Never even considered he might do that at all, but now that options used. Also since I forgot to mention this when commenting about the last episode. I think it's really funny that Mao started tauntingly calling Lelouch Lulu. It seems like the point of Mao, was to show Lelouch his actions can have unintended consequences for those around him. Curious what Lelouch will do after Nunally was in pretty serious danger this time. And also if Suzaku is going to do some digging into what's up with Shirley and Lelouch. He sounded pretty skeptical of it. Speaking of Suzaku that was a genuinely unexpected twist at the end. I hadn't questioned how strange the story of the Prime Minister's suicide was. But now we know why. Kind of makes Suzaku seem like a hypocrite. But the trauma of it is probably what's formed his current outlook. Oh yeah (so much happened in this episode) but the Student Pres is going to marry Lloyd? That's a little weird.
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WTF! Mao is alive? He got shot more times than 50 Cent.
Holy shit! Mao is alive. He's in front of Nunnally. Dat rape face.
Milly's marriage interview is with Lloyd? Holy shit!
Milly looking fine in that outfit. Dat oppai.
LMAO at Lloyd skipping steps.
Pizza Hut!
Oh, but Kallen, you do have something to do with Lelouch.
Arthur stay biting Suzaku.
Suzaku got quick eyes.
Villetta cooking now. Total 180.
Suzaku is quick AF!
Dat belly squeeze.
YAMERO!!!!
Suzaku cut the cord! WTF!
Lelouch geass'd himself.
Damn. Suzaku killed his own father. Mao broke him down.
Dat ost!
lol at Lelouch swinging at Mao.
C.C. is back.
World of C?
Mao is finally dead.
Suzaku still shook.
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Thaaat was a brilliant plan, I never thought he could use his geass that way.
May 5, 2017 4:05 AM

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finally, that clapping guy is dead.
Jul 30, 2017 8:46 AM

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So Suzaku killed his dad? Wow, that's dark.
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"Revelation about Suzaku", "Suzaku's past is revealed" etc etc. Ehm, people, the parricide was mentioned several episodes ago. The only big thing here is that Lelouch learned about it.

Yeah, Mao isn't dead. Just because (the series wanted a big early surprise for the episode).
Yeah, Suzaku is a super soldier. Just because (the series wanted super athletic feats).
The mirrored geass-isation and the one on Mao were easy to see coming but welcomed, too bad it forced the hero to discard a good trump card. On the other hand, why wouldn't a cornered and finished Lelouch just reach for the balance?

Nice tie of the settings thanks to the omiai being with the engineer.

1/5 (or again, 5+/5 ironically)

Conclusion: Never bother with plausibility when you can make facts come out of your hat just to be sure you deliver the big show.


Wall-walking (and other athletic achievements):
Coolness factor +1 (+15)

CodeBlazeFate said:
Heh, you've said coolness factor +1 a lot. How many coolness points does this anime have now?)

15 points so one "too cool" element less than the episodes count, thank God the overload has ended.

@CodeBlazeFate not really starting, and not thinking about "cunt" or something like that. This was just a dumb (or easily impressed) little kid, with a gun at hands (seriously, never let guns at children's reach). Suzaku's problem was tlaked about (by himself trying to justify himself) several episodes ago.
PS: sorry, you will never (at least in 99% cases) see me "hate" a fictional character even if you try hard. Simply because they are simply what their story need them to be.

@CodeBlazeFate I know: I just watched the episode. XD They even used Mao to put the exact words out, in case the audience was too stupid to get it.
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