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Jun 23, 7:57 AM
#1
Ao was definitely hiding something and it appears she knew more about the mountains than others. No wonder Hairi got curious. Ao is such an airhead though, and getting sleepy a lot. The night time exploring between Ao and Hairi also seems to have some character connection and buildup between the two. |
Stark700Jun 23, 8:27 AM
Jun 23, 7:58 AM
#2
Hairi really understands Ao very well. This is clear in the scene at the dagashi, where Ao couldn't hide her lie. I can totally understand why Ao gets jealous when Hairi gets close to Shiroha, but yahhh the three of them are so cute ahahaha.And honestly that Ao lantern is really nice, where can I get one lol. The sleeping girl is Sorakado Ai, Ao's older sister. Yahhh they look so pretty but we need more screen time for these two. In the mountains at night even in the middle of the mountain they still had time to find an 'ecchi book' so much funny in this scene, Hairi witnesses Ao gathering shining butterflies (Shichi Kage Chou). The next day, Hairi asks Ao, who looks sleepy as usual, about the previous night. Ao tries to dodge the question, but it's obvious she is hiding something. As Hairi tries to press further, Ao gives her a stern warning. "Don't go into the mountains at night anymore." However, Hairi ignores Ao's words and ventures into the mountains at night.There, she finds the Shichi Kage Chou again. Just as she touches a butterfly as Ao had done, Hairi is suddenly overcome by a strange phenomenon. It's so cute when Ao blushes while holding hands with Hairi. Ao and Hairi's search for this special butterfly uncovers several mysteries about the island as well as their respective pasts. Shining butterfly (Shichi Kage Chou) I've played the visual novel, but I still don't get the idea behind Shichi Kage Chou. |
Jun 23, 8:31 AM
#3
So the butterfly's hide a dark secret. Ao working hard for her sister but it looks like the search is taking a big toll on her. The cliffhanger also seemed ominous making me wonder what's going on. Shiroha getting closer to the main is nice. |
Jun 23, 8:38 AM
#4
We finally learn the story behind the butterflies and why they are here. I really didn't like how ominous that ending was I hope Ao's sister is ok. |
Jun 23, 8:48 AM
#5
- 3rd Family - Maou Ensatsu Kouryuha Damn, those tease lol |
Jun 23, 8:51 AM
#6
The Shichieichou butterfly, which both Ao and Hairi can definitely see, this sets the mystery to follow for the latter to resolve, and Shiroha provides part of that story with her, Ao, and someone else's family contributing to the ritual for ages. That said, with Ao always doing the ritual late at night, her sleeping on Hairi's lap, only to be given space by the guys and earning Shiroha's ire. On the same end, Ao hugging Hairi is quite the amusement for a day nap, and despite the repeated warnings not to go to the mountain at night, curiosity killed the cat for Hairi to be brainwashed by the butterfly and almost fallen to his death. The butterflies which hold all sorts of memories of remnants, Ao is built special because she handles them as a medium, though there's one particular memory she needs to find within then, one that concerns her older sister Ai who's still in a coma, needing a specific butterfly to wake her up. Of course, Hairi would not dismiss his presence around Ao at night, even if she's trying to search for Ai's butterfly or not, spoken like a true gentleman. This is business going back day and night for both of them, leading the butterflies back to her family's sacred tree of Mayoi Tachibana. At least they admit that they're in love with each other, but without Ai being able to wake up, it just isn't complete fulfillment. Aside from Umi having her own butterfly, Ao invited to Kyouko's place to read Grandma Katou's book on the butterflies, and indeed, there IS a way to get the specific butterfly to her. However, the ominous cliffhanger means that they don't have a lot of time left... |
Jun 23, 8:51 AM
#7
So Ao is like a spirit guide, and on top of that she's taking care of her sick twin sister, which is why she sleeps so much, she's just exhausted. This is starting to feel predictable, though, because Ao guides spirits and her sister might not have a good fate. That scene with the bracelet breaking is a sign of that, and maybe Ao will end up guiding her sister’s spirit. I really hope I’m wrong about this. |
Jun 23, 8:53 AM
#8
A really interesting episode. I noticed in the OP that Umi wasn't walking. That already applied to episode 11's OP but I didn't realize it at first. Interesting. Can me and Hairi switch places when Ao was hugging him? Please??? Those butterflies are pretty dangerous is you don't know how they work, huh? Reliving other peoples memories could be horrifying actually. I'm so sure Ao is just Kyou in a different universe. Like, she has Inari AND has sister, which would be Ryou. Honestly, Ao and Hairi are practically dating, they look good together. Really like their relationship. 5/5 |
Jun 23, 8:56 AM
#9
Shiroha tells Hairi, "A long time ago, there were three families here they called the Three House. The Sorakado family, the Naruse family, and I don't remember the third one." Ao, "Sorakado of the skies, Naruse of the seas, something something of the mountains..." Cute moments, Two girls sitting next to Hairi-san feel love triangle. Hairi made Ao blush,"True, you did look rather beautiful and divine last night." Shiroha look shock Ao lay down Hairi leg. Tree scene Ao has feeling hug Hairi very cute. Hairi touch butterfly, looking into Ai memories, evil spirit control Hairi body almost fell of mountain. Ao tell Hairi the bufferfly effect "Touching one makes you relive their memories." Hairi question Ao duties,"I gather wandering Shichieichou and guide them back to where they belong." We meet Ao twin sister Ai at hospital. Ao want to find Ai memories. Hairi cares about Ao "If you're putting yourself in danger, I at least want to be nearby." Ao cute quote, "Have you fallen in love with me?" "Mayoi Tachibana is the Sorakado family's sacred tree." Four bufferflies fly above the tree. Ao confess her feeling to Haira "I've properly fallen for you too." "I need our first time to be somewhere with a pillow." Hairi give book to Ao solving bufferfly problem. |
Jun 23, 9:09 AM
#10
The butterflies are the story looking tings |
Jun 23, 9:16 AM
#11
Me and the bad bitch I pulled by chasing magical butterflies. So we’re finally getting some explanation about the supernatural aspect of the series! Knew Ao was gonna be best girl. As I thought, the Shichiechou are the manifestation of lingering regrets. That explains why we see them at the start of each arc since all the girls have had that. Hairi of course also regrets how things went with his swim team.. but I wonder what happened to Ai to put her in the coma and what’s going on at the end with her bracelet coming apart? There’s still more to this story I’m sure. Also, note that Umi is followed by one. We know she’s probably a time traveling child of Hairi, but what happened in the future to make her have regrets? “I wanted my first to be a girl” wait.. does that mean Ao.. 🌈 😂 I know a bi coded character when I see one. I really like she and Hairi’s relationship a lot, honestly it’ll probably be my fave in the series. Hairi seems to be way more assertive in this route too. Like the way he introduced himself to the sleeping Ai as Ao’s boyfriend was so cute, also how he was so insistent on staying with Ao on the mountain. Looking forward to seeing how their relationship develops and how this arc goes. |
Marinate1016Jun 23, 12:20 PM
Jun 23, 9:27 AM
#12
Again, being set up for some sort of heart break at the end. The fore shadowing is strong in this one! |
Jun 23, 9:53 AM
#13
I thought those butterflies are the memories from supposedly dead people with unfinished business, but Ao's sister not dead, so it doesn't exactly work that way? or because she's unconcious so basically she's in "undead" states?\ I do like Ao, I think she's cute and funny, but I don't know this one would end |
Jun 23, 9:59 AM
#14
I actually want to see him jump off the cliff just to test if it'll trigger a "sudden ending" route. |
Jun 23, 10:04 AM
#15
I'm not too sure about anything. But is her sister like supposed to be her or something and she's actually looking for her own memory? |
Jun 23, 10:11 AM
#16
Jun 23, 10:21 AM
#17
Ao's perverted mind at work once again haha. Quite a bit of fun moments in this episode but also probably the darkest one in the series yet (when Hairi is possessed). It's been some time since I played the VN but it feels to me that they probably cut quite a bit when it comes to the introduction of Ai, the explanation concerning the butterflies and Ao/Hairi outings at night. Oh well, I guess it means the ending of Ao's arc will be closer to the VN. I'm also noticing that they are teasing the hell out of Umi (and Shiroha), to the point of introducing stuff that wasn't even there in the VN as far as I can tell. I guess they're doing it because they want to make sure the true routes are easy to understand for anime-only people. |
Jun 23, 10:21 AM
#18
Reply to Kai200X
I thought those butterflies are the memories from supposedly dead people with unfinished business, but Ao's sister not dead, so it doesn't exactly work that way? or because she's unconcious so basically she's in "undead" states?\
I do like Ao, I think she's cute and funny, but I don't know this one would end
I do like Ao, I think she's cute and funny, but I don't know this one would end
@Kai200X Including Unconscious/Coma people, so yeah that's apply to Kamome back in the first arc. |
Jun 23, 10:50 AM
#19
Memory butterflies " something something of the mountain" sound significant, what family will it be? Hairi's? Naruse of the Sea, and the OP scenes of Shiroha and the ocean. Ace plan to get the girl, Hairi. Keep finding her asleep and be next to her when she wakes up. That will get hei feeling going. Umi seems to be emitting memory butterflies, guess that explains her losing bits of her mentality. But Why? "Wait until Ai wakes up." Menage a trois with twins? "Now I'm really motivated." |
LordCrueltyVJun 23, 12:48 PM
Lord Cruelty V "But my Dreams they're not as empty, as my conscience seems to be" |
Jun 23, 11:23 AM
#20
December 1830 through December 1844 JIC anybody was curious as to when the Tempo Era was. so baaaasically 100 years BEFORE the WW1/2 years. that's why Hairi can't read that book... the Japanese language of that era is in the Antique style and that book is perhaps even the Legendary Style. |
Jun 23, 11:34 AM
#21
While I would have liked more of the banter between Ao and Hairi to be carried over from the visual novel I'm still happy that the story is progressing smoothly while keeping the relationship whole. It looks like they're also skipping a lot of scenes with the gang which I'm slightly more disappointed about because them approving and being happy for Ao and Hairi's relationship is actually pretty touching with no comedic tones. Ao is such a good girl. Shiroha is a lot more involved in this arc probably priming us for her arc which is up next. It is revealed that the butterflies are in fact the memories of fragments of memories of people. So yep that means the Kamome from the first arc is actually a shichieichou of the original Kamome which is why her memory is from the adventure book Kamome's mom wrote. And as can be seen from Ao and Kamome they can also be memories of people who are still alive. In other news I only found out earlier today but Reflection Blue is finally getting a Steam release this week after months of delay. So I can finally get to that and not get jumpscared. LordCrueltyV said: " something something of the mountain" sound significant, what family will it be? Hairi's? Naruse of the Sea, and the OP scenes of Shiroha and the ocean. Really not much of a spoiler but it's jumpscare girl Shiki and it's only important in Reflection Blue which doesn't seem like it'll be adapted Ahohite-killer said: 'm not too sure about anything. But is her sister like supposed to be her or something and she's actually looking for her own memory? Ai is really Ao's sister so no. More will probably be explained next episode tbh. |
raisin-kunJun 23, 11:37 AM
Jun 23, 11:41 AM
#22
Loved the episode. The episode itself was pretty good, there were no problems with it. We learn about butterflies that contain memories of people within it. We would probably learn more by the next epiosde. I'm not ready for the next episode, it feels like something will happen to Ai as well as Ao. Ao best girl by far. Loved the character interactions especially together with Hairi and Ao. I'm pretty excited for next week, which will be the climax of the story. |
Jun 23, 11:42 AM
#23
So the butterflies are kinda like ghosts too, add it to the list of “ghosts” in this show lol. Jokes aside, interesting explanation for the butterflies, so the fact that they can also be for people that aren’t dead explains why they were there when Kamome poofed out of existence near the end of her arc, I guess it wasn’t necessary to know at the time but I’m glad we finally learned what was going on there, assuming we know everything now about the butterflies anyway. And Ao’s job is to guide these butterflies back to where they belong, and in the process she’s trying to find her sister Ai’s memories to wake her up, a noble cause and I’m glad Hairi decided to help her out there, bless this man and his nosiness lol. And there were lots of fun moments with Ao throughout, a shame to hear they cut out some sexy stuff but I’m glad we got what we got, that scene when she was hugging Hairi in her sleep was especially cute. And the two of them are practically together now since they both acknowledged their feelings for each other, it’s just a matter of saving Ai so they can actually get together, but that scene at the end doesn’t bode well for the next episode, I hope it’s not too late to save her or something of that nature. Also, a bit more of Umi in this one too, her rice still sucks and Hairi had that weird dream before she woke him up, I like what they’re doing here by giving us breadcrumbs before what I’m guessing will be the true reveals later. |
TheColonel76Jun 24, 8:59 AM
Jun 23, 12:43 PM
#24
chou or cho 蝶 is butterfly. kage or 影 can be shadow, shade, or other side. shi or 死 death or deceased chi or ki is sometimes life or living energy or ... gughhmm for humans and other animals, in more than one Oriental mythology/religion there is the soul or spirit, then the life energy that drive/runs the body...]] the soul isn't destroyed upon death, it moves into whichever realm it needs to but the life energy remains inside the body as it rots ect and so... death energy shadow butterflies? |
Jun 23, 1:43 PM
#25
very fast paced, but still sn interesting arc. I wonder what’s up with Ai at the end |
Jun 23, 1:53 PM
#26
Too rushed. It just... Nice. It could been great with the proper pace. It lacks so much from the Visual Novel. Hope they can make it back at alka path. |
Jun 23, 2:35 PM
#27
More peak Ao content🤲 Tsunderes are so cute♥️ Best girl & way too horny😭😭 "I want my first to be a girl" "I am ok being rough but it's outside" "I want my first time to be with pillows" Shiroha has perfect reactions to these two lol. So these butterflies store memories of regret or something like that? Ai slumber also maybe related to these. Hairi was almost a gonner. Wonder how Ao managed all these time, blue Fenniken really helpful. Good that Hairi accompanying her now. Also this tree is the same as Umi one ig. And Hairi grandmother is also involved everywhere first Tsumugi friend now gave Ao solution. Haii & Ao really hit off nicely. I think I say about this every route but the chemistry is best between them. Unlike Tsumugi this was developed well. And well Hairi and both admitted their feelings. Introducing as her boyfriend though, Hairi is on fire. Curing Ai and then happy lovey dovey relationship seems too good to be true..🥲 That last scene of Ai's shared accesory falling kinda ominous. |
WaterMageJun 23, 2:39 PM
Jun 23, 4:39 PM
#28
another great episode a sister? love declaration wow that's a lot |
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Jun 23, 4:40 PM
#29
Informative episode, and Ao is an interesting girl, with her fantasies, and her fox is good too, a walking cutie. |
Jun 23, 5:18 PM
#30
Jun 23, 5:48 PM
#31
So the butterflies are like the souls of all the deceased ones and the ones that can't wake up like Ao's twin sister, and now they have the mission to find the sister's butterfly to give her memories back. Okay very interesting, also good romantic development between Hairi and Ao. Worrying elements at the end though with Ai's sister collar breaking and also Umi's butterfly, I can't wait to have more answers. |
Jun 23, 6:08 PM
#32
2:05 god damn straight up 🤣 poor Umi 3:40 Ao seems jealous 🤭 harem moment 6:28 oh my 🤣👌🏻 8:20 uh oh, shouldn’t have went up to the mountains like she warned him 🫢 11:00 oh wow 🫢 13:15 Oh my! 🙌🏻 confession! Hairi and Ao certainly got a lot closer this episode 👌🏻 Uh oh, that ending can’t be good. So how many episodes of this are we getting? 🤣 |
Jun 23, 6:10 PM
#33
Jun 23, 8:26 PM
#34
Ao is cute, but i don't like main character. All the actions of the main protagonist that I hate came out in this episode. |
Jun 23, 9:26 PM
#35
HMMM Heavy VN -> Anime adaptation talk. INVOLVES HEAVY SPOILER They changed a lot of parts. First of all (Episode 11): I don't exactly remember Umi participating in the welcome party. but they skipped a lot of the joke part of Ao. All in part of showing the changes in Umi per route (which, in VN, only appears in her demeanor and her way of addressing Takahara. Not to mention the "mistakenly calling him Dad" part that I think it's an anime original. And then on this Episode 12 they directly put the contrast with Shiroha (something that in VN, it only happens as a convo, and not in a "2 girls 1 boy" situation like this. In other words: I think they really intended to... show up a bit more of the "bait idea" that started this whole story. Why Hairi left Umi, why Umi chased him, and why Umi ran away leading to... that. (In case you didn't get it: yeah, it's not mentioned in VN but it is implied that Hairi did intend to remarry after some time, and this time it would be with Ao. We do not know the extend of their talk, since Umi found out (after chasing Hairi all the way, alone) and ran away, leading to... what caused this whole ruckus. Ao also changed quite a bit here, compared to VN. First things first: the part that she chose to mention and acknowledge the existence of the missing family (the Kamiyama). It's pretty sus that they made a lot of reference for a lot of stuff that... are bait for Shiki's appearance. But they never went on in and introduce her (she hasn't made an appearance in the anime. Most of the RB-only stuff aren't even mentioned, just parts of Umi route). I wonder if it's because her in-lore state? Ao is also less obstinate about Ai - or more like the anime doesn't hide Ai's existence as the "big reveal" for Ao route (it was, in VN). Although that part could also be because of the neck-break pace (Ao's route is so fast, so far, although I kinda expected it since it's prob the only route that could have survived a 3-episode pacing) But yeah, if this direction is anything: it looks like they want to play more and earlier on Hairi's remarriage sub-topic. (Umi's second mother). That whole topic is one of the two important sub-topics in Summer Pockets (the other one was... well, "Summer Pockets"), so it makes me think if they intend to... add some stuff to the ending, tieing up the parts over "that other world" "where Umi belonged to". Still too many abrupt skip scene. I mean: the ending of one scene still feels too much like a skip, losing a lot of congruity. The storyboarding process from VN to anime is rather poor, in that regard. Also: wrong place to put on Ao's CV song lol! Make a new song for her if you're going to put it on that part, goddammit! One more somber. |
Jun 23, 10:00 PM
#36
Jun 23, 10:25 PM
#37
We got quite a bit of a lore drop with what these mysterious butterflies are and background info on Ao including that she has a twin sister Ai that is currently in a coma. I thought it was cool when Ao said that she gains/learns some abilities when she touches different butterflies such as giving her the ability to read the old book on those butterflies. I'm curious to see where this goes and if they can save Ai since the last scene showed her bracelet falling off like as if time is running out... |
Jun 23, 11:25 PM
#38
Reply to Revvie-chan
HMMM
Heavy VN -> Anime adaptation talk. INVOLVES HEAVY SPOILER
They changed a lot of parts. First of all (Episode 11): I don't exactly remember Umi participating in the welcome party. but they skipped a lot of the joke part of Ao. All in part of showing the changes in Umi per route (which, in VN, only appears in her demeanor and her way of addressing Takahara. Not to mention the "mistakenly calling him Dad" part that I think it's an anime original.
And then on this Episode 12 they directly put the contrast with Shiroha (something that in VN, it only happens as a convo, and not in a "2 girls 1 boy" situation like this.
In other words: I think they really intended to... show up a bit more of the "bait idea" that started this whole story. Why Hairi left Umi, why Umi chased him, and why Umi ran away leading to... that.
(In case you didn't get it: yeah, it's not mentioned in VN but it is implied that Hairi did intend to remarry after some time, and this time it would be with Ao. We do not know the extend of their talk, since Umi found out (after chasing Hairi all the way, alone) and ran away, leading to... what caused this whole ruckus.
Ao also changed quite a bit here, compared to VN.
First things first: the part that she chose to mention and acknowledge the existence of the missing family (the Kamiyama). It's pretty sus that they made a lot of reference for a lot of stuff that... are bait for Shiki's appearance. But they never went on in and introduce her (she hasn't made an appearance in the anime. Most of the RB-only stuff aren't even mentioned, just parts of Umi route). I wonder if it's because her in-lore state?
Ao is also less obstinate about Ai - or more like the anime doesn't hide Ai's existence as the "big reveal" for Ao route (it was, in VN). Although that part could also be because of the neck-break pace
(Ao's route is so fast, so far, although I kinda expected it since it's prob the only route that could have survived a 3-episode pacing)
But yeah, if this direction is anything: it looks like they want to play more and earlier on Hairi's remarriage sub-topic. (Umi's second mother).
That whole topic is one of the two important sub-topics in Summer Pockets (the other one was... well, "Summer Pockets"), so it makes me think if they intend to... add some stuff to the ending, tieing up the parts over "that other world" "where Umi belonged to".
Still too many abrupt skip scene. I mean: the ending of one scene still feels too much like a skip, losing a lot of congruity. The storyboarding process from VN to anime is rather poor, in that regard.
Also: wrong place to put on Ao's CV song lol! Make a new song for her if you're going to put it on that part, goddammit! One more somber.
Heavy VN -> Anime adaptation talk. INVOLVES HEAVY SPOILER
They changed a lot of parts. First of all (Episode 11): I don't exactly remember Umi participating in the welcome party. but they skipped a lot of the joke part of Ao. All in part of showing the changes in Umi per route (which, in VN, only appears in her demeanor and her way of addressing Takahara. Not to mention the "mistakenly calling him Dad" part that I think it's an anime original.
And then on this Episode 12 they directly put the contrast with Shiroha (something that in VN, it only happens as a convo, and not in a "2 girls 1 boy" situation like this.
In other words: I think they really intended to... show up a bit more of the "bait idea" that started this whole story. Why Hairi left Umi, why Umi chased him, and why Umi ran away leading to... that.
(In case you didn't get it: yeah, it's not mentioned in VN but it is implied that Hairi did intend to remarry after some time, and this time it would be with Ao. We do not know the extend of their talk, since Umi found out (after chasing Hairi all the way, alone) and ran away, leading to... what caused this whole ruckus.
Ao also changed quite a bit here, compared to VN.
First things first: the part that she chose to mention and acknowledge the existence of the missing family (the Kamiyama). It's pretty sus that they made a lot of reference for a lot of stuff that... are bait for Shiki's appearance. But they never went on in and introduce her (she hasn't made an appearance in the anime. Most of the RB-only stuff aren't even mentioned, just parts of Umi route). I wonder if it's because her in-lore state?
Ao is also less obstinate about Ai - or more like the anime doesn't hide Ai's existence as the "big reveal" for Ao route (it was, in VN). Although that part could also be because of the neck-break pace
(Ao's route is so fast, so far, although I kinda expected it since it's prob the only route that could have survived a 3-episode pacing)
But yeah, if this direction is anything: it looks like they want to play more and earlier on Hairi's remarriage sub-topic. (Umi's second mother).
That whole topic is one of the two important sub-topics in Summer Pockets (the other one was... well, "Summer Pockets"), so it makes me think if they intend to... add some stuff to the ending, tieing up the parts over "that other world" "where Umi belonged to".
Still too many abrupt skip scene. I mean: the ending of one scene still feels too much like a skip, losing a lot of congruity. The storyboarding process from VN to anime is rather poor, in that regard.
Also: wrong place to put on Ao's CV song lol! Make a new song for her if you're going to put it on that part, goddammit! One more somber.
@Revvie-chan VN/Other side materials spoiler - As we know, this isn't exactly Umi's 3rd or 4th loop, this could be as well her 30th loop+ so thing bond to happen differently, I find it's to be pretty nice nod to Umi herself since she got her own bizarre adventure off-scenes. - Umi did accidentally call Hairi's dad even earlier in the game - I don't remember Adult Hairi second marriage sub-plot, was these mention in other side material? All I remember was A.Hairi just don't want Umi to be on the island and went to Shiroha's memorial by himself. When Umi is founded with her parent picture, she ran away in fear of Hairi would destroys the picture again. - The anime at least confirm RB!Umi route already did happened but is "skip" (God damn it lol) - Shiki only has two lore-state that actually matter to Hairi/Umi pov. 1. She doesn't appears in earlier loop (Which isn't the case by the time Anime "first loop" started,). 2. She got retcon out of the present day/loop after Hairi's finish her route. I think it's just a matter "when" she will be introduced, since she wrap up a lot of story/lore after all Could still hope for an extra cour/movie/ova or whenever they are going to give us for Shiki/RB!Umi content since 2 cour are likely not enough to cover them. |
Jun 24, 1:48 AM
#39
The jumpcut from Ao's stern reminder for Hairi to stay off the mountain only for the next frame (let alone scene) to be of him back again strolling around like he owns the place was gold lmao A convenience store worker by day, a ferrywoman for wandering souls by night and a 24/7 pervert who cares for her sister and boyfriend. I'm surprised Ao isn't more exhausted than she is. |
Jun 24, 2:46 AM
#40
This episode suggested that the writers are going to start making more direct connections to the over-arching storyline at least. They need more of that kind of tie-in to keep me invested in what's going on, because the last two arcs haven't really cut it. |
Jun 24, 2:47 AM
#41
Honestly, the episode was really nice. For me, it was much better than the previous arc in many ways. But if I compare it to the Kamome arc… hmm, I’m not sure — we’ll have to wait and see the ending. The episode was truly beautiful, and I don’t want to comment on it just yet. I’ll save my thoughts for the final episode of the arc. I don’t want to praise it now and then have the arc turn out bad at the end — or the opposite. |
Jun 24, 2:50 AM
#42
This was a pretty intriguing episode. It did explain more about what purpose the butterflies have and what happens if you touch one, which I'm glad that Ao was there to stop Hairi from walking off a cliff. Not only that, but it also introduced Ao's twin sister, Ai. Unfortunately, she's in a coma, which is where Ao reveals that her main goal is to find a specific butterfly that will be the key needed to wake her twin sister up. It does make more sense now as to why she's so sleep deprived all the time. While the plot progression of Ao's arc is enjoyable, the comedic moments involving the two of them, especially when Ao's mind goes into pervy mode, always cracks a smile on my face with some laughter here and there as well. It was also nice that the two of them acknowledged their feelings for each other, but I do respect Ao for wanting to prioritise helping her sister over everything else. As before, the pacing does feel a little fast, but I'm still enjoying it as is. Here's hoping that Ao can achieve her goal in helping her sister to wake up. |
Jun 24, 2:59 AM
#43
WaterMage said: More peak Ao content🤲 Tsunderes are so cute♥️ Best girl & way too horny😭😭 "I want my first to be a girl" "I am ok being rough but it's outside" "I want my first time to be with pillows" Shiroha has perfect reactions to these two lol. So these butterflies store memories of regret or something like that? Ai slumber also maybe related to these. Hairi was almost a gonner. Wonder how Ao managed all these time, blue Fenniken really helpful. Good that Hairi accompanying her now. Also this tree is the same as Umi one ig. And Hairi grandmother is also involved everywhere first Tsumugi friend now gave Ao solution. Haii & Ao really hit off nicely. I think I say about this every route but the chemistry is best between them. Unlike Tsumugi this was developed well. And well Hairi and both admitted their feelings. Introducing as her boyfriend though, Hairi is on fire. Curing Ai and then happy lovey dovey relationship seems too good to be true..🥲 That last scene of Ai's shared accesory falling kinda ominous. Hahaha, I was planning to gather her phrases and write them down, but you saved me the trouble! Her expressions are really strange, but somehow they made the episode more enjoyable. The relationship between her and Takahara is truly special — honestly, much more than Tsumugi’s. Thank you, your comment was wonderful — I really liked it! Wishing you a great day |
Jun 24, 4:00 AM
#44
Reply to Marioak_z
@Revvie-chan
VN/Other side materials spoiler
- As we know, this isn't exactly Umi's 3rd or 4th loop, this could be as well her 30th loop+ so thing bond to happen differently, I find it's to be pretty nice nod to Umi herself since she got her own bizarre adventure off-scenes.
- Umi did accidentally call Hairi's dad even earlier in the game
- I don't remember Adult Hairi second marriage sub-plot, was these mention in other side material? All I remember was A.Hairi just don't want Umi to be on the island and went to Shiroha's memorial by himself. When Umi is founded with her parent picture, she ran away in fear of Hairi would destroys the picture again.
- The anime at least confirm RB!Umi route already did happened but is "skip" (God damn it lol)
- Shiki only has two lore-state that actually matter to Hairi/Umi pov.
1. She doesn't appears in earlier loop (Which isn't the case by the time Anime "first loop" started,).
2. She got retcon out of the present day/loop after Hairi's finish her route.
I think it's just a matter "when" she will be introduced, since she wrap up a lot of story/lore after all
Could still hope for an extra cour/movie/ova or whenever they are going to give us for Shiki/RB!Umi content since 2 cour are likely not enough to cover them.
VN/Other side materials spoiler
- As we know, this isn't exactly Umi's 3rd or 4th loop, this could be as well her 30th loop+ so thing bond to happen differently, I find it's to be pretty nice nod to Umi herself since she got her own bizarre adventure off-scenes.
- Umi did accidentally call Hairi's dad even earlier in the game
- I don't remember Adult Hairi second marriage sub-plot, was these mention in other side material? All I remember was A.Hairi just don't want Umi to be on the island and went to Shiroha's memorial by himself. When Umi is founded with her parent picture, she ran away in fear of Hairi would destroys the picture again.
- The anime at least confirm RB!Umi route already did happened but is "skip" (God damn it lol)
- Shiki only has two lore-state that actually matter to Hairi/Umi pov.
1. She doesn't appears in earlier loop (Which isn't the case by the time Anime "first loop" started,).
2. She got retcon out of the present day/loop after Hairi's finish her route.
I think it's just a matter "when" she will be introduced, since she wrap up a lot of story/lore after all
Could still hope for an extra cour/movie/ova or whenever they are going to give us for Shiki/RB!Umi content since 2 cour are likely not enough to cover them.
@Marioak_z VN SPOILER POSSIBLY - yeah I know. it's implied she has went through a lot of loops bla bla bla nature of shichiechou. - I must have forgotten that part, tbh. For real I don't remember that part so thanks for correction. The main hint was her changing ways to address Hairi. - As I said there: it's implied. It's the same with "Summer pockets" being that storage house being a dimensional pocket. It's never actually brought up, but we know from what it stores + the whole Kyouko "role" in this story (same, implied via her final chat with Shiroha's mom (was that even in the VN, actually? I forgot lol)). VN Summer Pockets actually have those "implication plot thread" they deliberately left (just like all other KEY VNs, tbh. It's part of the charm.) But yes you're correct about the photo being the reason Umi ran away. Ultimately Hairi was trying to put his bad memories away. Here's what I mean with "remarriage" subplot: if I remember right: this scene does happen in the VN (with slight changes on Ao's more outward response) but it's the way they present it that made me say "Oh, they wanted to be more outward about it in the anime". Like in the VN: the whole "remarriage" subplot was pretty much hidden (apart from the part that Ao's route was the most romantic one between the 4) until Alka Tale, where Umi slowly regressed into toddler mentally and I think in one of the visits by the gang Umi called Ao "2nd mother"? (It was Ao 2nd mother, Kamome was aunt? something like that.) So that's where the implication that... "oh that talk about remarriage did happen", come from. This is also another bits where they're trying to push the potrayal more: I forgot if this scene happened or not in VN (I think it did? not sure) but yeah they totally didn't represent it this way. It was just talk. and I don't think this last bit happened in VN? yeah I mean I don't think Shiroha saw, in the VN? I don't remember. But idea taken. That extra potrayal underlined the subplot (or maybe I should say: meta-plot) they wanted to imply. - Umi route: I think it's not everything yet. They prob will interweave it more with Shiroha route later on. (Since tbh, Shiroha "opening route" was shorter compared to the other 3.) - I agree with Shiki having resolved out of the main story after her route, as you said, but it's just weird that they left the bait but not the fish. Or maybe I should say "left the rice". Yeah it could be they're saving her to close out stuff, but tbh assuming Ao route is going on the same pace as others, I don't want her introduced at all. Like it would ruin Alka Tale's pacing if they have to make space for her too. What a weird connundrum... |
Revvie-chanJun 24, 4:04 AM
Jun 24, 6:45 AM
#45
Reply to Revvie-chan
@Marioak_z
VN SPOILER POSSIBLY
- yeah I know. it's implied she has went through a lot of loops bla bla bla nature of shichiechou.
- I must have forgotten that part, tbh. For real I don't remember that part so thanks for correction. The main hint was her changing ways to address Hairi.
- As I said there: it's implied. It's the same with "Summer pockets" being that storage house being a dimensional pocket. It's never actually brought up, but we know from what it stores + the whole Kyouko "role" in this story (same, implied via her final chat with Shiroha's mom (was that even in the VN, actually? I forgot lol)).
VN Summer Pockets actually have those "implication plot thread" they deliberately left (just like all other KEY VNs, tbh. It's part of the charm.)
But yes you're correct about the photo being the reason Umi ran away. Ultimately Hairi was trying to put his bad memories away.
Here's what I mean with "remarriage" subplot:

if I remember right: this scene does happen in the VN (with slight changes on Ao's more outward response) but it's the way they present it that made me say "Oh, they wanted to be more outward about it in the anime".
Like in the VN: the whole "remarriage" subplot was pretty much hidden (apart from the part that Ao's route was the most romantic one between the 4) until Alka Tale,
where Umi slowly regressed into toddler mentally and I think in one of the visits by the gang Umi called Ao "2nd mother"? (It was Ao 2nd mother, Kamome was aunt? something like that.) So that's where the implication that... "oh that talk about remarriage did happen", come from.
This is also another bits where they're trying to push the potrayal more:

I forgot if this scene happened or not in VN (I think it did? not sure) but yeah they totally didn't represent it this way. It was just talk.

and I don't think this last bit happened in VN? yeah I mean I don't think Shiroha saw, in the VN? I don't remember.
But idea taken. That extra potrayal underlined the subplot (or maybe I should say: meta-plot) they wanted to imply.
- Umi route: I think it's not everything yet. They prob will interweave it more with Shiroha route later on. (Since tbh, Shiroha "opening route" was shorter compared to the other 3.)
- I agree with Shiki having resolved out of the main story after her route, as you said, but it's just weird that they left the bait but not the fish. Or maybe I should say "left the rice".
Yeah it could be they're saving her to close out stuff, but tbh assuming Ao route is going on the same pace as others, I don't want her introduced at all. Like it would ruin Alka Tale's pacing if they have to make space for her too. What a weird connundrum...
VN SPOILER POSSIBLY
- yeah I know. it's implied she has went through a lot of loops bla bla bla nature of shichiechou.
- I must have forgotten that part, tbh. For real I don't remember that part so thanks for correction. The main hint was her changing ways to address Hairi.
- As I said there: it's implied. It's the same with "Summer pockets" being that storage house being a dimensional pocket. It's never actually brought up, but we know from what it stores + the whole Kyouko "role" in this story (same, implied via her final chat with Shiroha's mom (was that even in the VN, actually? I forgot lol)).
VN Summer Pockets actually have those "implication plot thread" they deliberately left (just like all other KEY VNs, tbh. It's part of the charm.)
But yes you're correct about the photo being the reason Umi ran away. Ultimately Hairi was trying to put his bad memories away.
Here's what I mean with "remarriage" subplot:
if I remember right: this scene does happen in the VN (with slight changes on Ao's more outward response) but it's the way they present it that made me say "Oh, they wanted to be more outward about it in the anime".
Like in the VN: the whole "remarriage" subplot was pretty much hidden (apart from the part that Ao's route was the most romantic one between the 4) until Alka Tale,
where Umi slowly regressed into toddler mentally and I think in one of the visits by the gang Umi called Ao "2nd mother"? (It was Ao 2nd mother, Kamome was aunt? something like that.) So that's where the implication that... "oh that talk about remarriage did happen", come from.
This is also another bits where they're trying to push the potrayal more:
I forgot if this scene happened or not in VN (I think it did? not sure) but yeah they totally didn't represent it this way. It was just talk.
and I don't think this last bit happened in VN? yeah I mean I don't think Shiroha saw, in the VN? I don't remember.
But idea taken. That extra potrayal underlined the subplot (or maybe I should say: meta-plot) they wanted to imply.
- Umi route: I think it's not everything yet. They prob will interweave it more with Shiroha route later on. (Since tbh, Shiroha "opening route" was shorter compared to the other 3.)
- I agree with Shiki having resolved out of the main story after her route, as you said, but it's just weird that they left the bait but not the fish. Or maybe I should say "left the rice".
Yeah it could be they're saving her to close out stuff, but tbh assuming Ao route is going on the same pace as others, I don't want her introduced at all. Like it would ruin Alka Tale's pacing if they have to make space for her too. What a weird connundrum...
@Revvie-chan VN/Novel Spoiler - The novel did confirmed that Kyoko is normal person after all but Hitomi (Shiroha's mom) contact her prior the start of the story about Hairi and Umi and ask her to support them (When Umi doesn't show up in the final route, Kyoko realized her job is over). The question is move to Hitomi instead, at the end, we still know nothing about her at all despite begin the one "setup" and help behind the scene. Hopefully the anime did something about this. - I personally think Umi calling the other girls mistress during that scene is more of her trolling Hairi than actually meant it though, since Hairi does get on her nerve quiet often. calling him Lucifer or Lolicon is more of a way to get back at him. Meanwhile I believe the anime did include more of Shiroha/Umi scene because they have to start building up their important-ness to the real story. Like in Umi case, in game you got a whole lot Slice of Life with her during your playthrough, but since Anime have to cut most of SOL they have to make up for it (like reveal that Umi is looping much earlier) - RB!Umi route likely not feature at this point (at least, for this two cour) since Umi is already "younger", she likely lack energy to actually pull her stunt among other things. - imo I wouldn't even mind if they merge Shiroha+Alka route in the anime, (since a lot of Shiroha's route are covered in Alka anyway), they will have a lot of time left to build up stuff without rushing the plot. If they did that, by the time Ao route end, we will have like 11 episodes+ left to use. I still copium for Shiki introduction though lol |
Jun 24, 9:06 AM
#46
Hairi is definitely one of the best MC. Bro doesnt afraid showing his feeling when it matters. Also all the girls are likeable, its really hard to choose the best girl. |
Jun 24, 9:28 AM
#47
Reply to raisin-kun
While I would have liked more of the banter between Ao and Hairi to be carried over from the visual novel I'm still happy that the story is progressing smoothly while keeping the relationship whole. It looks like they're also skipping a lot of scenes with the gang which I'm slightly more disappointed about because them approving and being happy for Ao and Hairi's relationship is actually pretty touching with no comedic tones. Ao is such a good girl.
Shiroha is a lot more involved in this arc probably priming us for her arc which is up next.
It is revealed that the butterflies are in fact the memories of fragments of memories of people. So yep that means the Kamome from the first arc is actually a shichieichou of the original Kamome which is why her memory is from the adventure book Kamome's mom wrote. And as can be seen from Ao and Kamome they can also be memories of people who are still alive.
In other news I only found out earlier today but Reflection Blue is finally getting a Steam release this week after months of delay. So I can finally get to that and not get jumpscared.
Really not much of a spoiler but it's
jumpscare girl Shiki and it's only important in Reflection Blue which doesn't seem like it'll be adapted
Ai is really Ao's sister so no. More will probably be explained next episode tbh.
Shiroha is a lot more involved in this arc probably priming us for her arc which is up next.
It is revealed that the butterflies are in fact the memories of fragments of memories of people. So yep that means the Kamome from the first arc is actually a shichieichou of the original Kamome which is why her memory is from the adventure book Kamome's mom wrote. And as can be seen from Ao and Kamome they can also be memories of people who are still alive.
In other news I only found out earlier today but Reflection Blue is finally getting a Steam release this week after months of delay. So I can finally get to that and not get jumpscared.
LordCrueltyV said:
" something something of the mountain" sound significant, what family will it be? Hairi's? Naruse of the Sea, and the OP scenes of Shiroha and the ocean.
" something something of the mountain" sound significant, what family will it be? Hairi's? Naruse of the Sea, and the OP scenes of Shiroha and the ocean.
Really not much of a spoiler but it's
jumpscare girl Shiki and it's only important in Reflection Blue which doesn't seem like it'll be adapted
Ahohite-killer said:
'm not too sure about anything.
But is her sister like supposed to be her or something and she's actually looking for her own memory?
'm not too sure about anything.
But is her sister like supposed to be her or something and she's actually looking for her own memory?
Ai is really Ao's sister so no. More will probably be explained next episode tbh.
@raisin-kun Anime will be 26 episodes from what I have heard, what makes you think they will not adapt all of the routes? |
Jun 24, 10:12 AM
#48
Reply to BrotherCoa
@raisin-kun Anime will be 26 episodes from what I have heard, what makes you think they will not adapt all of the routes?
BrotherCoa said: @raisin-kun Anime will be 26 episodes from what I have heard, what makes you think they will not adapt all of the routes? I'm only talking how they likely won't adapt the RB routes. I'm guessing 2 more eps for Ao route, 4 eps for Shiroha, followed by 4 eps each for Alka and Pockets routes which adds up to 26. RB routes might get adapted ala Little Busters Ecstasy OVAs but I doubt there's enough time to shove 4 new routes into the main anime unless the writers are doing some serious witchcraft. |
Jun 24, 5:31 PM
#49
The fanservice is amazing with Ao, even from Episode . |
'I am the world's most selfish man.' (俺のわがまま世界1だ) — Tennjouji Haru |
Jun 24, 9:23 PM
#50
Reply to Marioak_z
@Revvie-chan
VN/Novel Spoiler
- The novel did confirmed that Kyoko is normal person after all but Hitomi (Shiroha's mom) contact her prior the start of the story about Hairi and Umi and ask her to support them (When Umi doesn't show up in the final route, Kyoko realized her job is over). The question is move to Hitomi instead, at the end, we still know nothing about her at all despite begin the one "setup" and help behind the scene. Hopefully the anime did something about this.
- I personally think Umi calling the other girls mistress during that scene is more of her trolling Hairi than actually meant it though, since Hairi does get on her nerve quiet often. calling him Lucifer or Lolicon is more of a way to get back at him.
Meanwhile I believe the anime did include more of Shiroha/Umi scene because they have to start building up their important-ness to the real story. Like in Umi case, in game you got a whole lot Slice of Life with her during your playthrough, but since Anime have to cut most of SOL they have to make up for it (like reveal that Umi is looping much earlier)
- RB!Umi route likely not feature at this point (at least, for this two cour) since Umi is already "younger", she likely lack energy to actually pull her stunt among other things.
- imo I wouldn't even mind if they merge Shiroha+Alka route in the anime, (since a lot of Shiroha's route are covered in Alka anyway), they will have a lot of time left to build up stuff without rushing the plot.
If they did that, by the time Ao route end, we will have like 11 episodes+ left to use.
I still copium for Shiki introduction though lol
VN/Novel Spoiler
- The novel did confirmed that Kyoko is normal person after all but Hitomi (Shiroha's mom) contact her prior the start of the story about Hairi and Umi and ask her to support them (When Umi doesn't show up in the final route, Kyoko realized her job is over). The question is move to Hitomi instead, at the end, we still know nothing about her at all despite begin the one "setup" and help behind the scene. Hopefully the anime did something about this.
- I personally think Umi calling the other girls mistress during that scene is more of her trolling Hairi than actually meant it though, since Hairi does get on her nerve quiet often. calling him Lucifer or Lolicon is more of a way to get back at him.
Meanwhile I believe the anime did include more of Shiroha/Umi scene because they have to start building up their important-ness to the real story. Like in Umi case, in game you got a whole lot Slice of Life with her during your playthrough, but since Anime have to cut most of SOL they have to make up for it (like reveal that Umi is looping much earlier)
- RB!Umi route likely not feature at this point (at least, for this two cour) since Umi is already "younger", she likely lack energy to actually pull her stunt among other things.
- imo I wouldn't even mind if they merge Shiroha+Alka route in the anime, (since a lot of Shiroha's route are covered in Alka anyway), they will have a lot of time left to build up stuff without rushing the plot.
If they did that, by the time Ao route end, we will have like 11 episodes+ left to use.
I still copium for Shiki introduction though lol
@Marioak_z VN SPOILER POSSIBLY - Kyouko: They might, tbh. Since it's tied a lot to the real role of Katou family in this whole setup. The real meaning of "Summer Pockets" - "Mistress" joke: Reminder that by that time, Umi has regressed to near-toddler state. Having her "troll" there would be against the characterisation of the story, at that moment. Also if the point of those cuts was to build Shiroha and Umi's "importantness", then they would not put Ao in the cut. (They have another cut for the purpose you mentioned, which was the start of Episode 11.) - Shiroha/Umi and Alka Tale: Yeah it was obvious it's going to be merged, Shiroha route and Alka Tale and Ending from even before the anime aired. Shiroha route... tbh with the way the VN was written, it seemed like it was meant to be played first, and then you would go to the other routes, and then return for Alka Tale. But this way of adapting it is more concurrent for anime-viewing, hence it was obvious that they would make Shiroha-Alka Tale back to back. |
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