angry sub only users

The beard on their necks have grown too strong for their puny brains to contain.

It's an internet forum and people generally like to bitch and whine about stuff no matter how petty it might be.

Ironically most of these same Users who bitch and whine about dubs mostly rely on subs to consume Anime not even realizing they are in inherently relying on Anime that is literally being altered just so they can freaken understand what the hell the characters are even saying to begin with.

Dub vs Subs is a fallacy where most Users wouldn't even know any better if some Fansubber change the dialog of an Anime completely just to troll unless someone who understands Japanese actually points it out to them.

It's even more ironic knowing a vast Majority of these Users, specifically on a platform like MAL, with such petty grievances are most likely consuming Anime they have illegally pirated anyways. Bitching and whining about stuff they are literally not even paying for in the 1st place. It's like someone getting a delicious gourmet meal without paying for it then bitching and whining about not only the service but feeling also they are entitled to get a free desert and a free blowjob after their meal too.

As someone who feels slightly addressed, this made me laugh too damn hard.

I never watch dubs cause I prefer the original audio. Heck, I even put English subs on stuff that's already in English cause half of the actors can't articulate.

But those that go out of their way to go to the dub section to go troll have too much free time. If people wanna watch dubs, let them.

It's because they've based their entire personality around watching anime and this is the only way that they can feel good about themselves.

You provoked him when you said the English VA are the """original""" voice, I'll react the same if u say that to me. This is incorrect. The original voice are the Japanese ones. Every dubbed version give you a wrong vision of the show but please don't try to say "English is my native language so we must watch it dubbed", many people don't have English as native language and we're forced to learn your language to understand the sub since most of them are in English and even so a lot of people with English as their native language watch subbed. Also, it doesn't matter if the show "isn't extremely Eastern", "it's western-inspired", some cringe western cartoons are obviously Eastern-inspired and no Japanese people are demanding it to be dubbed into their language, only a few vocal English-speaking users are demanding foreign shows to be dubbed, the rest of the world watch Anime as it must be.....subbed. Dub is obviously not a proper way to watch any Anime series besides the reasons Piromysl said in his comment (which its currently the MAIN reason I despise dub, English dub actors don't take their jobs seriously). One user of your examples makes valid points too, if you want to hear English, you should watch Western cartoons which they are plently made by and for Americans instead of trying to force Anime to your needs. Japanese people made Anime for themselves, not for foreigns. If foreigns want to understand Anime, they have two options: learn Japanese or watching it subbed. You also learn Japanese being subbed which its objectively positive and educational. It's called being respectful to them. Dub has no advantages, only disadvantages, it's disrespectful and greatly damages the Anime industry as always.

@Leer Nothing wrong with that. Subs watchers don't have reading skills issues and can enjoy foreign contents without altering them. How not to feel good about that?

You talk about sub watchers or weebs ?

Because we - sub watchers - watch stuff only in original language. Tv show "Dark" ? In german only, english is a nope. Anything from USA ? In english. Anime ? In japanese. Donghua ? In mandarin. Aeni ? In korean. And so on.

Weebs on the other hand are illogical and sick people who will claim stuff like "japanese language is superior" and other weird things. And im 90% sure the people you are looking for are WEEBS, not "sub only users". Because yes, weebs has tendency to become angry over nothing important. And someone mentioned "woke" stuff - being anti-woke has nothing to do with that (it only shows that even despite they are weebs they still have very small % of brain - unlike people who are woke).

@KryzakamiHrybami Maybe you're right, I took a shit today and didn't miss the bowl, felt pretty good.

Making an argument over authenticity is absolutely pointless. Anime is more authentic in Japanese, because it's a Japanese cultural product, regardless of the setting the series takes place in. None of this should have anything to do with dubs, because it doesn't matter at all that a dub is less authentically Japanese, and it's absolutely psychotic to care about whether someone prefers to hear a show in their native language or not. Plus, anime is practically the only medium you can get away with, because it's unrealistic, it's obviously really fake when it comes to live action.

HARD disagreement on that Aria dub being remotely in the same ballpark as the others, but that's neither here not there.

None of those examples you sited seemed especially angry to me. try not to take what I am about to say as a personal insult but...

dub sucks. It ruins characters. English voice actors don't give a damn about anime and it shows in their lifeless performances.

@epidemia78 I'm pretty sure most of them aren't paid enough to care in the first place. Not exactly enough pull in the voice acting industry to hold out for more money, like Bender from Futurama did. That's just my guess though. I just can't imagine there's that much cash in the anime dubbing scene.

@FanofAction

I'm sure you're right. It might be uncharitable of me, but I think most dub actors are just wannabe hollywood actors who would throw all of us weebs under the bus at the drop of a hat.

@duchessliz87 I've literally never seen an unprovoked dub user trash someone for watching subs, since you know, that's the default.

@LostSpectre I've seen it happen plenty of times. There was this one dub watcher a couple months back who even posted a thread of 'Why dub is better than sub' or something along those lines and then repeatedly trashed sub watchers. So yes, I've seen it happen and that wasn't the only time. Still don't get why other people care about how someone watches anime. It doesn't affect them so why make such a big deal about it? Just watch how you want to be it sub or dub. I don't get why people make a big stink over it.

@duchessliz87 Dub's existence affects sub watchers.
- When there's a dub, script is often overlocalized.
- Official subtitles are made to suit the dub.
- As a result, subtitles don't align with the original audio.

The beard on their necks have grown too strong for their puny brains to contain.

That overlocalisation thing is exactly what happened with Boku no Kokoro no Yabai Yatsu, when Seven Seas as they usually do had to shoehorn their unfiltered political propaganda and somehow made teenage edgelord going through a phase, who is more similar to 4chan dweller have use a misandrist term literally only western feminists are using unironcally, effectively trying to rewrite a character. HiDive copypasted this mistranslation into the anime sub not knowing it's inaccurate, but after the backlash they actually retracted that. This stuff does indeed happen.

People just need to to stop lying to themselves and act like original Japanese voiceover in video games and anime is the same as English dub in terms of quality. English dub in 99% of cases sounds awful like it's not even professionals but some amateurs from a street which try hard to mimic a child manner of speech or in opposite just speak as always with zero acting. I am not native English speaker (obviously) and watched some anime with amateur dub of my own language and even these amateurs were better than English 'professionals' which sound like Nickelodeon characters at best no matter who do they voice over. So it's not just about Japanese voice acting which is professional by a default due some obvious reasons, it's more about how awful others in doing their voice acting job.

@Shizuna 100% This is unfortunately a huge issue with a lot of shows that HiDive holds the rights to. Was rewatching the K-On movie the other day and the entire Azunyan running joke was omitted, because they took the subs from the dub. Just one more in a long list of why I hate dubs. Thankfully my Japanese is getting close to the point where I hardly rely on subs as well

@Lawgun Kinda what I've been saying. They need better actors, plain and simple. It's doable, I know it is. I've heard it. I'm not saying get Phil LaMarr
level people, but try to find people who can fit the roles. Look at Dante from Devil May Cry. Dude fits the role like a glove. Couldn't even imagine hearing the character in Japanese. He apparently didn't do the first 2 games, but still. Point is, get people who can fit the vibe of the character.

@Lawgun Kinda what I've been saying. They need better actors, plain and simple. It's doable, I know it is. I've heard it. I'm not saying get Phil LaMarr
level people, but try to find people who can fit the roles. Look at Dante from Devil May Cry. Dude fits the role like a glove. Couldn't even imagine hearing the character in Japanese. He apparently didn't do the first 2 games, but still. Point is, get people who can fit the vibe of the character.

@FanofAction and you're generally only proving the point that original language is always better. DMC games were originally voiced in English. Same as Bayonetta, Resident Evil and few others.

Its just baiting dude. The actual mature anime audience outgrew this and dont give a fuck.

@rsc-pl Ok....My point was It's a game made by a Japanese company that had a solid English cast. Therefore it is possible for a Japanese product to end up with good English acting.

My argument was never about which is better. My argument was that if the people who are responsible for the English casting chose people who fit the roles, maybe less people would have issues with the English voices. My two main prior examples were FMA and the Persona series. One I thought did a really good job with the English cast, and one I thought mostly did a good job. But people don't like to focus on the things that actually might have tried, they'd rather focus on all the stuff that didn't and lampshade it all as being shit.

Also...anyone playing the original is always better card when Goku exists...