| Domino’s Pizza has been called out for a “racist” advert in the UK. In the advert, three women are seen deciding what to order when one says “anything but Chinese.” One woman suggests ordering from ‘Madagascan Halloumi’ but envisages the ordeal she would go through in tracking the order. Commenters on the advert’s YouTube clip called out the pizza delivery service for “singling out the Chinese.” Full link: https://www.weareresonate.com/2021/01/anything-but-chinese-dominos-pizza-slammed-for-racist-advert/ Full advertisment video: I know this will take two sides but since the advertisment is unclear to what it is meant by "Anything butChinese". It can mean good and bad which I feel its been poorly written. |
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| I don't see any racism in this. The only offensive part is how unfunny it is. |
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| so nowadays you aren't allowed to dislike non white country's cuisine, because it's racist, huh. You can dislike Italian or French cuisine I'm sure (you can count on it that if she said "anything but French" no one would have said a word), but non white? naaah. |
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Theo1899 said: I don't see any racism in this. The only offensive part is how unfunny it is. Yep the ad is not funny at all and the issue can be hinted be like saying "Dont want anything that is Chinese" |
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Zefyris said: so nowadays you aren't allowed to dislike non white country's cuisine, because it's racist, huh. You can dislike Italian or French cuisine I'm sure (you can count on it that if she said "anything but French" no one would have said a word), but non white? naaah. THe problem is, the dialogue is not explained clearly enough and some would feel racist. It depends how the dialogue is taken into Shouldnt the ad be addressed to something more that is clearly explained better: Anything but chinese because we have had too many chinese food than along the lines of Anything but chinese... Could mean 1. Racist 2. Have been having too much chinese food. |
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Zefyris said: so nowadays you aren't allowed to dislike non white country's cuisine, because it's racist, huh. You can dislike Italian or French cuisine I'm sure (you can count on it that if she said "anything but French" no one would have said a word), but non white? naaah. Reminds me of that guy who posted that he didn't like indian food on twitter and british news thought it was important enough to be featured on their websites. Stupid thing to get angry about. |
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| Jesus imagine if the actors were white. |
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Theo1899 said: Zefyris said: so nowadays you aren't allowed to dislike non white country's cuisine, because it's racist, huh. You can dislike Italian or French cuisine I'm sure (you can count on it that if she said "anything but French" no one would have said a word), but non white? naaah. Reminds me of that guy who posted that he didn't like indian food on twitter and british news thought it was important enough to be featured on their websites. Stupid thing to get angry about. During COVID times, an increased racism to east asians due to the pandemic and you further it with this disgusting subtle racism here. |
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Kaasfondue said: Jesus imagine if the actors were white. I dont think the issue lies with actors/actress Who ever, done the dialogue has really missed up on making a clear dialogue. Many takeaways are affected and having this line is just adding fire |
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Chizuru_Mizuhara said: Zefyris said: so nowadays you aren't allowed to dislike non white country's cuisine, because it's racist, huh. You can dislike Italian or French cuisine I'm sure (you can count on it that if she said "anything but French" no one would have said a word), but non white? naaah. THe problem is, the dialogue is not explained clearly enough and some would feel racist. It depends how the dialogue is taken into Shouldnt the ad be addressed to something more that is clearly explained better: Anything but chinese because we have had too many chinese food than along the lines of Anything but chinese... Could mean 1. Racist 2. Have been having too much chinese food. uh no? They're talking about food. She just doesn't want chinese food. The context is clear, peoples are downward retarded to see any form of racism in food preference. |
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| lol all i can say is that its a delicate and sensitive time we are living in especially with the pandemic originating from China |
| Definitely not racist but maybe they could have had her word it differently since people like to get mad at everything nowadays, It's pretty clear she's just talking about Chinese food. |
Zefyris said: Chizuru_Mizuhara said: THe problem is, the dialogue is not explained clearly enough and some would feel racist. It depends how the dialogue is taken into Shouldnt the ad be addressed to something more that is clearly explained better: Anything but chinese because we have had too many chinese food than along the lines of Anything but chinese... Could mean 1. Racist 2. Have been having too much chinese food. uh no? They're talking about food. She just doesn't want chinese food. The context is clear, peoples are downward retarded to see any form of racism in food preference. Yes it is under food reference. Though context can hint why she does not want chinese food for a particular reason? An increased racism to east asians due to the pandemic and with this dialogue , this could add more fuel to fire to racism. |
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deg said: lol all i can say is that its a delicate and sensitive time we are living in especially with the pandemic originating from China Definitely agree and withmany fast food places affected with pandemic, it is somewhat uncalled to make it more worse than it should. Fast food places are still under a recovery stage in time. |
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Chizuru_Mizuhara said: Kaasfondue said: Jesus imagine if the actors were white. I dont think the issue lies with actors/actress Who ever, done the dialogue has really missed up on making a clear dialogue. Many takeaways are affected and having this line is just adding fire It would garner more controversy for sure Free market and shit innit epic wars between fastfood chains don't hate the player hate the game |
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onceexisted said: Definitely not racist but maybe they could have had her word it differently since people like to get mad at everything nowadays, It's pretty clear she's just talking about Chinese food. ysphyr said: I feel like it's white people who are getting offended on behalf of Chinese population. But I might be wrong though as Chinese people tend to be offended by the weirdest things - remember D&G ad backlash?. I feel like if the character had expressed some sort of reason behind the line ‘anything but Chinese’ i.e. not liking a certain dish, or being bored by the cuisine, then I might have been willing to look at it from different perspectives. But this reads as purely insensitive. |
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| Did you see the KFC blm ad they put up months ago? No way they thought that was a good idea. |
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| That is my usual answer when the sex shop staff asks me what I am looking for. RightwingMilluki said: some people want to make sure that there is no uyghur meat on their pizza I know that is supposed to be an edgy joke but it is also tragically accurate. |
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Chizuru_Mizuhara said: Zefyris said: uh no? They're talking about food. She just doesn't want chinese food. The context is clear, peoples are downward retarded to see any form of racism in food preference. Yes it is under food reference. Though context can hint why she does not want chinese food for a particular reason? An increased racism to east asians due to the pandemic and with this dialogue , this could add more fuel to fire to racism. no nononono, no, no, NO. This is 100% retarded. Like I said, if she said "anything but french" you wouldn't have any problem with it, even though she'd be a non white denying white culture food. You folks need to chill out and stop seeing bad things where there isn't, and stop "defending " peoples who never asked you to defend them and don't need you especially against illusory attacks. Many peoples do NOT like Chinese cuisine, especially the kind we find in Occident (which is usually quite different from the real Chinese cuisine you'd eat directly in China), and Covid 19 and recent event have got nothing to do with it. This is RETARDED. period. No way around it, no discussion about it, nothing. |
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Zefyris said: Chizuru_Mizuhara said: Yes it is under food reference. Though context can hint why she does not want chinese food for a particular reason? An increased racism to east asians due to the pandemic and with this dialogue , this could add more fuel to fire to racism. no nononono, no, no, NO. This is 100% retarded. Like I said, if she said "anything but french" you wouldn't have any problem with it, even though she'd be a non white denying white culture food. You folks need to chill out and stop seeing bad things where there isn't, and stop "defending " peoples who never asked you to defend them and don't need you especially against illusory attacks. Many peoples do NOT like Chinese cuisine, especially the kind we find in Occident (which is usually quite different from the real Chinese cuisine you'd eat directly in China), and Covid 19 and recent event have got nothing to do with it. This is RETARDED. period. No way around it, no discussion about it, nothing. I undestand what you mean. Everyone has different point of views and some may find "anything but french/chinese/indian" is offended.I feel like if the character had expressed some sort of reason behind the line ‘anything but Chinese’ i.e. not liking a certain dish, or being bored by the cuisine, then I might have been willing to look at it from different perspectives. But this reads as purely insensitive. It is more to do how the reply/wording is used. I don't have a problem but its more to how its being said/worded |
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Atlos said: It's not raciest to have personal tastes If I stated I wouldn't date a black person, in an ad commercial, would that be racist? |
| Lol Imagine getting triggered if u don't like food from other country. Opticflash said: Atlos said: It's not raciest to have personal tastes If I stated I wouldn't date a black person, in an ad commercial, would that be racist? Racial sexual preference exists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_sexual_preference |
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| The advert is racist against British people, as they are the native population and they are 75% (used to be 99%) of the UK population, yet they receive no representation whatsoever. Indian adverts have Indians in them, Chinese adverts have Chinese people in them, yet in the West, it is fine to have no Western Ethnic representation whatsoever. Also why is saying British food is bland okay, and emphasizing how terrible it would be without the ethnic fastfood, such as Italian, Indian and Chinese. Or constant criticism of European-American food as bland and unseasoned. Chizuru_Mizuhara said: Domino’s Pizza has been called out for a “racist” advert in the UK. In the advert, three women are seen deciding what to order when one says “anything but Chinese.” One woman suggests ordering from ‘Madagascan Halloumi’ but envisages the ordeal she would go through in tracking the order. Commenters on the advert’s YouTube clip called out the pizza delivery service for “singling out the Chinese.” Full link: https://www.weareresonate.com/2021/01/anything-but-chinese-dominos-pizza-slammed-for-racist-advert/ Full advertisment video: I know this will take two sides but since the advertisement is unclear to what it is meant by "Anything but Chinese". It can mean good and bad which I feel its been poorly written. In a Detective Conan episode, there was a character that absolutely hated Western cuisine, and used very harsh language to describe the food, should that just be seen as racism against White Europeans? No, because they were talking about the food, similar to the Dominos advert talking about Chinese food. Kaasfondue said: Jesus imagine if the actors were white. In a European country's advert, how absurd, how ridiculous. Zefyris said: Chizuru_Mizuhara said: THe problem is, the dialogue is not explained clearly enough and some would feel racist. It depends how the dialogue is taken into Shouldnt the ad be addressed to something more that is clearly explained better: Anything but chinese because we have had too many chinese food than along the lines of Anything but chinese... Could mean 1. Racist 2. Have been having too much chinese food. uh no? They're talking about food. She just doesn't want chinese food. The context is clear, peoples are downward retarded to see any form of racism in food preference. Part of multiculturalism is not being able to criticize foreign foods, as it offends some sections of the multicultural population. |
Opticflash said: but this is referring to food. Someone could say this with a racist intention but say not Chinese in refrence to a takeaway isn't inherently racistAtlos said: It's not raciest to have personal tastes If I stated I wouldn't date a black person, in an ad commercial, would that be racist? |
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Nurguburu said: Lol Imagine getting triggered if u don't like food from other country. Opticflash said: If I stated I wouldn't date a black person, in an ad commercial, would that be racist? Racial sexual preference exists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_sexual_preference There's a difference between having your own preference and declaring your preference in a commercial. Atlos said: Opticflash said: but this is referring to food. Someone could say this with a racist intention but say not Chinese in refrence to a takeaway isn't inherently racistIf I stated I wouldn't date a black person, in an ad commercial, would that be racist? So so can be said for one claiming they wouldn't date black people in a commercial. In this case it only harms black people wanting to date (outside their ancestry) and for the Chinese case, it would be detrimental to Chinese businesses at the very least for no reason. It's not racist, but it's inappropriate. |
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Opticflash said: I agree it would be a detriment to Chinese businesses but different people enjoy different flavours. You can't really compare it to that dating anology as they are two wildly different thingsNurguburu said: Lol Imagine getting triggered if u don't like food from other country. Racial sexual preference exists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_sexual_preference There's a difference between having your own preference and declaring your preference in a commercial. Atlos said: but this is referring to food. Someone could say this with a racist intention but say not Chinese in refrence to a takeaway isn't inherently racist So so can be said for one claiming they wouldn't date black people in a commercial. In this case it only harms black people wanting to date (outside their ancestry) and for the Chinese case, it would be detrimental to Chinese businesses at the very least for no reason. It's not racist, but it's inappropriate. |
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Atlos said: Opticflash said: I agree it would be a detriment to Chinese businesses but different people enjoy different flavours. You can't really compare it to that dating anology as they are two wildly different thingsThere's a difference between having your own preference and declaring your preference in a commercial. So so can be said for one claiming they wouldn't date black people in a commercial. In this case it only harms black people wanting to date (outside their ancestry) and for the Chinese case, it would be detrimental to Chinese businesses at the very least for no reason. It's not racist, but it's inappropriate. But you can on the basis that it hurts two groups of people for no reason; blacks who want to date (outside their ancestry) and Chinese restaurants and owners and employees of those restaurants. |
Opticflash said: Nurguburu said: Lol Imagine getting triggered if u don't like food from other country. Racial sexual preference exists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_sexual_preference There's a difference between having your own preference and declaring your preference in a commercial. Atlos said: but this is referring to food. Someone could say this with a racist intention but say not Chinese in refrence to a takeaway isn't inherently racist So so can be said for one claiming they wouldn't date black people in a commercial. In this case it only harms black people wanting to date (outside their ancestry) and for the Chinese case, it would be detrimental to Chinese businesses at the very least for no reason. It's not racist, but it's inappropriate. So commercials can't discourage Chinese food, because it's bad for Chinese owned businesses. This is multicultural imposed mercantilism. |
Opticflash said: But black people are still the same people just with a different skin colour but Chinese food is quite different from other types of foodAtlos said: I agree it would be a detriment to Chinese businesses but different people enjoy different flavours. You can't really compare it to that dating anology as they are two wildly different things But you can on the basis that it hurts two groups of people for no reason; blacks who want to date (outside their ancestry) and Chinese restaurants and owners and employees of those restaurants. |
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Atlos said: Opticflash said: BUt black people are still the same people just with a different skin colour but Chinese food is quite different from other types of foodBut you can on the basis that it hurts two groups of people for no reason; blacks who want to date (outside their ancestry) and Chinese restaurants and owners and employees of those restaurants. It hurts the businesses (usually run by Chinese) and hence Chinese owners and employees. |
Opticflash said: Yes but what if they just don't like Chinese food? Sure it hurts Chinese people but I doubt it was said because of thatAtlos said: BUt black people are still the same people just with a different skin colour but Chinese food is quite different from other types of food It hurts the businesses (usually run by Chinese) and hence Chinese owners and employees. |
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RuneImperialist said: Opticflash said: There's a difference between having your own preference and declaring your preference in a commercial. So so can be said for one claiming they wouldn't date black people in a commercial. In this case it only harms black people wanting to date (outside their ancestry) and for the Chinese case, it would be detrimental to Chinese businesses at the very least for no reason. It's not racist, but it's inappropriate. So commercials can't discourage Chinese food, because it's bad for Chinese owned businesses. This is multicultural imposed mercantilism. Race doesn't matter in this, as this isn't racist, but it's inappropriate. If Pizza Hut made a commercial defaming KFC, they may be liable for damages done to KFC. It's stupid from a business standpoint of view. However, there will be some (very small) subset of people who will act with racial discrimination against Chinese. Atlos said: Opticflash said: Yes but what if they just don't like Chinese food? Sure it hurts Chinese people but I doubt it was said because of thatIt hurts the businesses (usually run by Chinese) and hence Chinese owners and employees. The actors were told to act on a script. If the script says "anything but Chinese" on a commercial, it discourages others to try Chinese restaurants and only hurts the businesses and who runs those businesses. The end result is the same; it hurts some group of people whether they were targeted directly or indirectly. |
Opticflash said: I doubt that people wouldn't have Chinese just because a character in an add didn't want itRuneImperialist said: So commercials can't discourage Chinese food, because it's bad for Chinese owned businesses. This is multicultural imposed mercantilism. Race doesn't matter in this, as this isn't racist, but it's inappropriate. If Pizza Hut made a commercial defaming KFC, they may be liable for damages done to KFC. It's stupid from a business standpoint of view. However, there will be some (very small) subset of people who will act with racial discrimination against Chinese. Atlos said: Yes but what if they just don't like Chinese food? Sure it hurts Chinese people but I doubt it was said because of that The actors were told to act on a script. If the script says "anything but Chinese" on a commercial, it discourages others to try Chinese restaurants and only hurts the businesses and who runs those businesses. The end result is the same; it hurts some group of people whether they were targeted directly or indirectly. |
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Opticflash said: RuneImperialist said: So commercials can't discourage Chinese food, because it's bad for Chinese owned businesses. This is multicultural imposed mercantilism. Race doesn't matter in this, as this isn't racist, but it's inappropriate. It hurts the businesses (usually run by Chinese) and hence Chinese owners and employees. A major point of your argument why that Dominos advert that criticizes Chinese food is bad, is because it diminishes the economic prospects of Chinese owned businesses. |
| As if peoples who want to eat chinese food are going to stop eating some because of some adds, or that peoples who don't like chinese food that much are suddenly going to order some because you change an add. *smh* |
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RuneImperialist said: It hurts the businesses (usually run by Chinese) and hence Chinese owners and employees. A major point of your argument why that Dominos advert that criticizes Chinese food is bad, is because it diminishes the economic prospects of Chinese owned businesses. But the focus wasn't the race, it was the businesses themselves. If the ad said "I'd never want KFC" it's inappropriate from a business perspective. |
| Oh, another topic that reactionaries will flock to in order to avoid actual discussion on policy and self-reflection. This new site cites literally fucking 2 twitter accounts with utmost 150 retweets and likes combined put together about this minuscule topic. It's literally outrage-bait for people with simplistic brains that feed off of it. Even as a somewhat progressive person, I know that this commercial isn't racist not even in the slightest; the intentions are pretty obviously talking about Chinese Take-Out. Though, @OpticFlash raises a good point about a corporation making a commercial that slights smaller businesses or local take-out. One thing that upsets me is the fact that ass-hats in this thread would use this as an excuse to be racist towards Chinese (or Asians in general) people for the fault of their Government's actions (remind you of another group of people that are going through the same thing). Also, @RuneImperialist, isn't about time you moved off of the "icky browns make a country worse because I watched 2 hours of Fox News everyday (but bri'ish)" talking point? |
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slightycognizant said: Oh, another topic that reactionaries will flock to in order to avoid actual discussion on policy and self-reflection. This new site cites literally fucking 2 twitter accounts with utmost 150 retweets and likes combined put together about this minuscule topic. It's literally outrage-bait for people with simplistic brains that feed off of it. Even as a somewhat progressive person, I know that this commercial isn't racist not even in the slightest; the intentions are pretty obviously talking about Chinese Take-Out. Though, @OpticFlash raises a good point about a corporation making a commercial that slights smaller businesses or local take-out. One thing that upsets me is the fact that ass-hats in this thread would use this as an excuse to be racist towards Chinese (or Asians in general) people for the fault of their Government's actions (remind you of another group of people that are going through the same thing). Also, @RuneImperialist, isn't about time you moved off of the "icky browns make a country worse because I watched 2 hours of Fox News everyday (but bri'ish)" talking point? Fox News used to air in Britain, and I would occasionally watch it. However, I hate the news, and always avoid it. |
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RuneImperialist said: slightycognizant said: Oh, another topic that reactionaries will flock to in order to avoid actual discussion on policy and self-reflection. This new site cites literally fucking 2 twitter accounts with utmost 150 retweets and likes combined put together about this minuscule topic. It's literally outrage-bait for people with simplistic brains that feed off of it. Even as a somewhat progressive person, I know that this commercial isn't racist not even in the slightest; the intentions are pretty obviously talking about Chinese Take-Out. Though, @OpticFlash raises a good point about a corporation making a commercial that slights smaller businesses or local take-out. One thing that upsets me is the fact that ass-hats in this thread would use this as an excuse to be racist towards Chinese (or Asians in general) people for the fault of their Government's actions (remind you of another group of people that are going through the same thing). Also, @RuneImperialist, isn't about time you moved off of the "icky browns make a country worse because I watched 2 hours of Fox News everyday (but bri'ish)" talking point? Fox News used to air in Britain, and I would occasionally watch it. However, I hate the news, and always avoid it. Please show me where any FOX pundit advocates for "multi-racial working class" nonetheless Republicans. You guys constantly demonize it in the first place. |
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slightycognizant said: RuneImperialist said: Fox News used to air in Britain, and I would occasionally watch it. However, I hate the news, and always avoid it. Please show me where any FOX pundit advocates for "multi-racial working class" nonetheless Republicans. You guys constantly demonize it in the first place. https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/republicans-hispanics-democrats-bobby-jindal-west-anderson "Republicans proved they can build an aspirational, multi-ethnic, culturally conservative, working-class coalition." @Auron The Progressive-Reactionary dynamic is just narrowminded. Progress for one people is regression for another. |
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RuneImperialist said: slightycognizant said: Please show me where any FOX pundit advocates for "multi-racial working class" nonetheless Republicans. You guys constantly demonize it in the first place. https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/republicans-hispanics-democrats-bobby-jindal-west-anderson "Republicans proved they can build an aspirational, multi-ethnic, culturally conservative, working-class coalition." Wait, you finally give me links for your claims? Finally. Many of these articles are opinion pieces and Mario Rubio opinion on what the Republican Party should be but you did provide links that prove your claims. Though, this article doesn't actually cover what you are trying to convey. The Republican Party always goes down this route every time a Democratic Candidate gets into office. It's kind of like a Motte and Bailey type approach, "oh I am worried about the amount of government overreach and spending (for social programs usually)" but when in power, the GOP usually becomes highly nationalistic, isolationist and imperialistic (see: Reagan, Nixon, Trump and Bush). This grift happens every time. It's this type of hook that religious minority groups that grab onto every time but leech off of because of the racism from the party after they get into power. Despite this, I will concede this point because you provided sources that debunked my doubt of your claim. Maybe you could do the same for our past debate(s). |
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slightycognizant said: RuneImperialist said: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/republicans-hispanics-democrats-bobby-jindal-west-anderson "Republicans proved they can build an aspirational, multi-ethnic, culturally conservative, working-class coalition." Wait, you finally give me links for your claims? Finally. Many of these articles are opinion pieces and Mario Rubio opinion on what the Republican Party should be but you did provide links that prove your claims. Though, this article doesn't actually cover what you are trying to convey. The Republican Party always goes down this route every time a Democratic Candidate gets into office. Trump got a higher % of "minority" voters and lower % of white votes in the 2020 election, so this is clearly the new Republican election strategy, but when in power, the GOP usually becomes highly nationalistic, isolationist You are describing the GOP election rhetoric, not their administration policy. Maybe you could do the same for our past debate(s). I was on my phone, hence why I didn't provide sources. |
| @RuneImperialist Wait, you finally give me links for your claims? Finally. Many of these articles are opinion pieces and Mario Rubio opinion on what the Republican Party should be but you did provide links that prove your claims. Though, this article doesn't actually cover what you are trying to convey. The Republican Party always goes down this route every time a Democratic Candidate gets into office. Trump got a higher % of "minority" voters and lower % of white votes in the 2020 election, so this is clearly the new Republican election strategy. I don't really think this is a counter to my point but I do agree with you somewhat. It's not the new strategy but a shift in how they deliver their rhetoric. In 2020, Trump played more off of his bullshit "establishment outsider" status than his more "spicy" rhetoric in 2016. This is notably the reason why Trump gained more support in minority communities in 2020 but still less than most republicans presidents in the past 50 years. It's not new for republicans to do the Motte and Bailey trick constantly. see: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/dec/08/roy-blunt/blunts-wrong-trump-did-not-get-highest-minority-vo/ (covers the minority vote thing but doesn't debunk your claim or anything of the sort) but when in power, the GOP usually becomes highly nationalistic, isolationist You are describing the GOP election rhetoric, not their administration policy. Rhetoric often reflects in your positions and in this case is no different but the thing is their shift in rhetoric. Both Trump's 2020 and 2016 policy are quite the same, the only thing different is his messaging more so attacking the democrats as the establishment instead of targeting immigration, Walls etc. So, it would be more so the GOP election rhetoric that has changed and not the administration policy as his policies still are still quite nationalistic and isolationist. https://ballotpedia.org/Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign,_2016 https://ballotpedia.org/Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign,_2020 Maybe you could do the same for our past debate(s). I was on my phone, hence why I didn't provide sources. Even though the process to post links on the phone is somewhat more intensive, I don't think it is an excuse to make baseless claims without proof at all. --- The Progressive-Reactionary dynamic is just narrowminded. Progress for one people is regression for another. "When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality seems like oppression." Also, I'll ask another question but it's off topic so I'll DM it to you later. |
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