| I just like shonens I find them better then some anime out here |
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| They have mass appeal with a lot of action, comedy, emotional moments and lovable characters. They're the hollywood superhero flicks of the anime industry. |
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| Uuuh, first "battle shounen" not "shounen" Second, half of the shows you mentioned aren't really "overrated" Third simply because they're popular. You definitely won't start watching anime with random unpopular ones... |
| You're one of them, you should have some insight. |
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| First of all, it is important to note that manga magazine targeted towards young boys (shounen, generally 10-18 years old) are the most successful and popular in Japan, with the obvious one being Shounen Jump. Many anime "newbies" generally start their anime journey in that age group, me included. Therefore, shounen anime are basically targeted to these "newbies". And if these "newbies" are not of that age group, they may still love shounen anime, as it the stories are generally straightforward, making it easier to get into anime with a simpler story. Furthermore, many include hints of romance, and almost always has comedy, making it an entertaining anime for many. Secondly, there are many similarities with western entertainment as there is with shounen. In comparison to other anime/manga of other demographics (seinen, josei, shoujo), shounen anime generally focus on action with a protagonist who fights for what is right, which is quite similar to western entertainment. As many anime "newbies" would experience western entertainment (or any other type of entertainment) first, they would feel more attached to watch an anime that is more similar to what they already know, being action in the fight against what is wrong. As such, shounen anime is closer to the entertainment that "newbies" are used, making it more entertaining than other anime with a different demographic. |
mhkr said: Uuuh, first "battle shounen" not "shounen" Second, half of the shows you mentioned aren't really "overrated" Third simply because they're popular. You definitely won't start watching anime with random unpopular ones... Yepp!! I completely agree with this. Also, it's simply because they have mass appeal, enjoyable to many. Tries to incorporate humour, fun elements along with good plot and characters which makes the a good gateway to the medium |
| Nah, cheekyboiii. Don't speak for anyone but yourself when you want to call something overrated. |
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| Let's just put it this way: I can't imagine that Cartoon Network/Toonami/Adult Swim would have aired 90% of my completed list back in the 2000's (not counting the hentai). And as for streaming sites these days, I don't see Netflix, Hulu, and Funimation promoting 20% of my completed list (again, not counting the hentai). |
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| why newbies? a lot of people watched hXh and FMA. anyway i think those anime have their name for it, a lot of people get expose to anime by shounen-battle anime. |
| You literally have FMAB and Code Geas in your favourites. How dense are you? lol |
| Same reason why veterans like me like battle shounen - cause they're fun a lot of them are good as well. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| I understand where you're coming from Op. I think a huge factor is the popularity of shounen among children, people watch and remember a show when they were kids and then they want to watch another shows like it. |
GuilionJul 14, 2020 11:04 AM
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| Because shounens are usually full of positive feelings, action, adventure, fighting against evil and good+easily understandable plot. Seinen is mostly about psychology, full of complicated thinking, plot and negative feelings. Humans are simple race they enjoy positive stuffs and plot that is easily to understand. (of course there are exceptions in both). No opinion for shoujou, josei, kids and other type of age/sex categories since I'm not watching it. |
| People can only watch things they've heard of. Newbies have only heard of famous things. Battle shounen are the most famous. Or are they advertising Clannad on TV these days? |
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| Just because they are popular doesn't mean that they are good. And second of all, you mention only battle Shounen, there is a difference between battle shounen and shounen. Why do you expect newbies to get attracted to the less popular anime anyways? Doesn't that logic sound stupid to you? People toss the word "Overrated" around here and there nowadays, without even knowing the meaning of that word. Just because it's good and popular and is rated high doesn't make it overrated, people like it because it's good, so many people wouldn't have watched it if it was shit. Just because an anime is more popular and has better ratings than an anime that YOU found out to be better than that anime, doesn't make it overrated. |
 I said keep your hands on the table |
| Considering when people get into anime it tends to be either through hearing about it through friends or the internet. And the stuff they normally here is mainstream stuff which is Shounen. |
leah0201 said: mhkr said: Third simply because they're popular. You definitely won't start watching anime with random unpopular ones... My first two anime were Tsuritama and Humanity Has Declined, so idk what you're talking about. Speak for yourself, you are a minority. Most people start with the popular animes and that logic is completely fine. |
I said keep your hands on the table |
Theo1899 said: They have mass appeal with a lot of action, comedy, emotional moments and lovable characters. They're the hollywood superhero flicks of the anime industry. Couldn't sum it up better. People tend to find shounen more approachable and the characters tend to be more likable, at the expense of other things. Arin-san said: leah0201 said: My first two anime were Tsuritama and Humanity Has Declined, so idk what you're talking about. Speak for yourself, you are a minority. Most people start with the popular animes and that logic is completely fine. Exactly. Popular anime aren't necessarily bad ones either, they're just the ones that get more publicity due to marketing. |
| What would you choose? A simple, slice of life anime with no plot whatsoever and is pretty much close to your day to day life or would you choose an action packed, fantasy, filled with super powers which is what you dreamt of back when you were a kid? |
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| I wouldn't exactly call myself a shounen fan, but how many of the ones you listed are *actually* overrated. |
| most popular, most mainstream, most 'normal' hence it's not that 'newbies get attracted to shonen animes" necessarily, but it's just that shounen is the most mainstream-able as to create that impression, or so I suspect |
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| At least in the US market, those kinds of shows tend to be more available on TV and mainstream streaming services. (They're also the most popular shows on bootleg streaming sites.) Virtually all are dubbed in English, meaning that the language/subtitles barrier is eliminated. So by sheer probability, viewers who weren't previously into anime are more likely to encounter battle shounen as their introduction to the medium. And since anime viewers tend to have favorable/nostalgic impressions of their first or early titles, battle shounen tend to reside in the Favorites realm of newbies until/unless their tastes change upon encountering other genres that they may like better. It's also worth noting that battle shounen tend not to have a lot of the incomprehensible and off-putting elements that you'd find in more "hardcore" anime. Those whose early encounters with anime involve shows that're too slow-paced and boring, too full of inscrutable Japanese and otaku-culture references, or that contain too much lewd stuff, are more likely to think, "Anime's not for me." In other words, they self-select out of the newbie "reference pool," leaving a higher percentage who're into battle shounen. |
| I have couple shounens in favorites, but I think they are not even similar to these generic shonens like HxH, OP, Naruto, Dragon Ball, Fairy tail, Bnha, etc. I am not even sure why someone would call SNK a shounen. And everyone who said shounens are popular only among kids, they are not, shows like BNHA, HxH, FMAB, SNK, Naruto, Dragon Ball ( all are shounens) are most popular in general among almost everyone who watch anime. |
ReegrezSNKJul 14, 2020 12:31 PM
| Classic adventure series with some aspect of the heroes journey are always going to be some of the most appealing kinds of stories to the average person. Why do you think the MCU is so popular? A sense of progression plus lots of flash is going to be more appealing that a slow ambient atmospheric show like Mushishi. ReegrezSNK said: I have couple shounens in favorites, but I think they are not even similar to these generic shonens like HxH, OP, Naruto, Dragon Ball, Fairy tail, Bnha, etc. I am not even sure why someone would call SNK a shounen. And everyone who said shounens are popular only among kids, they are not, shows like BNHA, HxH, FMAB, SNK, Naruto, Dragon Ball ( all are shounens) are most popular in general among almost everyone who watch anime. Beacuse SNK is published in a shonen magazine therefore it is shonen. |
| Mostly because they are fast paced, easy to get into and popular. Although my first two 'anime' were school rumble and ouran highschool host club and neither of them are battle shonens. |
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| I like shounen. They usually have a large ensemble so there is at least one character you'll like. It can also be easier to get into due to nothing overly complicated in the plot. It's pace keeps the story going. Lots of flowing animation. And Shounen tends to have more episodes so picks up fans |
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| That is like asking why action(not just superhero) movies make the most money. They are exciting, make you forget about your troubles, and can have deeper themes than on first glance. |
| I'll take that as battle shounen, because that's what they tend to gravitate towards, not simply shounen. It grips you quickly and doesn't ask for much participation from the viewer. You can just turn your brain off and look at the boom boom and pow pow, same reason why people like seeing building demolitions. I once recommended my shounenfag shounen enthusiast friend 3-gatsu and she was all like wtf tHiS iS sO boRiNg I aCtUaLLy nEEd tO pAy aTTeNtioN |
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| Millions of reasons. You have to find out by interacting with each individual to understand why they enjoy it. When we label people based on group ("ugh normies love shounen, they're literal babies and dumbasses!"), we lose all potential to understand by validating ourselves. Anyway, it's what's most popular, thus more people want to find out why, see if they like it themselves, etc. I also can't stand when people must project what they're coming to anime for as if everyone else should. On top of happening to like things that are more relatable (Beastars, One Piece, Love Live), I also tend to like anime for their underlying themes above all else. I highly doubt that's what most people are coming to anime for. Re-copying why I find One Piece so great, too. I give One Piece a 10 because it feels so fucking good to watch. Its worldbuild is so intricate, it's such a funny series, the backstories are so relatable. The buildup never ceases to amaze me, EVER. Even the slower pacing in the anime has taught me to be more patient in a way. One Piece has made me an incredibly understanding person and that people aren't who they are on the outside. There are such amazing themes of family, contrast and legacy throughout the One Piece world and I can't find it anywhere else without one lagging behind the other, which is part of why I stopped comparing one series to another, because each anime is trying to achieve one thing different from another. What you dislike about One Piece is probably going to be something that I love. Hell, even One Piece puts forward a theme relative to "one man's trash" during the Whole Cake Island Arc. I love the references to worldwide folklore and legends scattered around. I love that One Piece isn't just about the base story, and is about the intricacy of the world. We get to see how the world feels about series of events, what characters do outside of the main characters' lives, what they are feeling. This sense of giving thousands of characters their own meaning makes the world of One Piece feel so alive. So that's why I like that battle shounen. Yep. Although it is pretty ignorant to judge an entire genre upon hundreds of thousands of anime by a handful of series. also if you're calling out people for being normies read this list first |
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| @cheekyboiii, it's just everyone's luck that happened to be whether the first anime is Dragon Ball or Lady Lady. Naruto or Psycho Pass. Bleach or Higurashi. You never know. It's so random that each one gets introduced to anime for the first time by this anime or that anime. Who knows? Don't be surprised if one who got introduced to anime through One Piece, soon will drop the show and watch others. |
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| @VitorLeiteAncap I'd beg to differ? Its demographic is shounen. You do realize it has nothing to do with inherent themes, but who it is generally aimed at, and that most commonly share similar themes? |
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| I'm guessing cuz it's filled with action and so gets their adrenaline rushing more easily, gets them hooked quicker especially if its something new. Plus they tend to be incredibly popular and recommended more often so its easier to find them too |
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| Superhero stories are very common in the west, and they are very simple to understand. Shounen is just mostly that. Beyond that people like action scenes which shounen has plenty of. |
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Theo1899 said: They have mass appeal with a lot of action, comedy, emotional moments and lovable characters. They're the hollywood superhero flicks of the anime industry. this dude said it all. while I dont like shounens that much, I certainly understand why a lot of people do it may be elitist to say that "it is easier to understand", but sometimes, that's all we need |
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| because it's: FRIENDSHIP, EFFORT, VICTORY!!! -shonen jump-kun from shueisha. |
VitorLeiteAncap said: TolkienFan365 said: Classic adventure series with some aspect of the heroes journey are always going to be some of the most appealing kinds of stories to the average person. Why do you think the MCU is so popular? A sense of progression plus lots of flash is going to be more appealing that a slow ambient atmospheric show like Mushishi. Beacuse SNK is published in a shonen magazine therefore it is shonen. Correction: SNK is a seinen history that is being published in a shounen magazine There is no such thing. You can argue there are trends that may define some demographics but anything that editors feel will work in their magazine will get published. All that determines what is seinen or shonen is what magazine is published in. Plus while AOT did have a narrative turn it fit some classic elements and tropes found in YA content. Even with it's current trends I would hardly argue it still isn't made for an older YA audience. |
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