| Doesn’t have to be your favorite anime, just one where you often object to common criticisms because you feel they are not accurate and/or not in good faith. For example, I found Magical Girls Raising Project to be an average anime but I roll my eyes when I see it get called a ‘Madoka clone’. Obviously SAO is one I've been outspoken about and Fairy Gone as well. I will also always go to bat for Fate 06. Still in my top 10. The story remains the best of the series for me. |
Marinate1016Dec 6, 2019 6:02 PM
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| Himegoto when people say that traps are gay. |
| Granbelm for sure. It gets a decent amount of flak for being a "Madoka clone" but dear lord is it an excellent tribute to 2D animated mecha |
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| Hoshiai no Sora is a recent one mainly because it's a drama so it's automatically gonna be bipolar. Never have I seen the word 'contrived' thrown around so many times in episode discussions for a while now to the point where I feel like it's just being thrown around for the shits and giggles. That and the fact that some people can't take the slightest mention of lgbt or parental abuse without throwing "forced" everywhere Kenja no Mago as well oddly, mainly because romance wise it's one of the best isekais out there Ookami Shoujo to Kuro Ouji as well because I find it funny that when the girl is the one abusing the guy yet he still sticks with her no one complains, yet when the roles are reversed everyone suddenly labels it "Stockholm Syndrom the anime" |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| incredibly... Pupa, when people say its the worst anime, with the worst story and worst animation |
| The Akame ga Kill manga is trash but it clicked with 15-year old me |
 "If you don’t believe in yourself, no one will do it for you." |
| I'll always defend Fairy Tail, because it's better than your favourite battle shounen that isn't Fairy Tail. |
| I haven't even seen SAO but the hate directed towards it bothers me immensely. Like, if people have concerns about the direction of anime as a whole then sure there might be a conversation there. But specifically attacking an anime which is loved by so many of our fellow anime fans is a really toxic attitude to have from a fandom perspective. I love anime, and SAO is important to tons of anime fans, many of whom like the same stuff I do in addition to SAO, so I think SAO is important to anime. I don't know, I just feel the hate towards SAO is indicative of a greater problem in the community where there isn't a sense of unity. No matter what ones reasons for not liking a specific anime, there is never, in my opinion, good cause to direct the kind of hate circle-jerking towards a show to the level that SAO receives. People loving SAO doesn't take away from other shows getting recognition. But people hating on it and creating this division between x type of fan and "elitists"... that's when fans are going to return that hate ten-fold to the shows the haters like. Then no one wins. Then there is the "popular trash" and the "elitist pretentious garbage", and we can't just celebrate all of anime anymore. ----- I also get defensive when people shit on classics for bad reasons. Especially when it's classics that are already underrated by MAL score. At least when someone complains in a toxic way about Clannad's art style, I can point to the score and remind them it was once top of MAL. Something like Non Non Biyori - which is THE iyashikei SOL anime to many people, and without a doubt a classic - is actually under 8.00 right now, so it grinds my gears even more when stuff like that receives toxic critique. Someone is going to make the "critique isn't toxicity" argument, so I should add that I do understand the difference, unlike most people that use that defense when they want to be toxic. |
| “In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.” -Friedrich Nietzsche Aggregate scoring is bad for the anime fandom |
| Goblin Slayer when people focus their criticism on only the first episode and the Shield Hero when people like to call sexist or women haters (despite that only one female, the main villain, it's evil) or that it's a revenge porn history even when the 'revenge' was very tame. I don't have anything about people who gives legit criticisms about the series (like for example that most of the characters on GS aren't well developed or that the cgi looks weird) but i really despise those that mostly focus on the rape or the false accusation while criticizing the series and/or like to insult and call names to their fanbases and then act like victims when called out. |
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| SNK, I guess. It's just annoying hearing the same complaints that aren't even relevant to the series anymore from people who will be forever stuck in 2013. What really heats me up though, is people who hate on sports anime because it's animated sports. I have heard some of the dumbest arguments I swear lol |
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| Gokudolls. The rare occasion where people talk about it they say the comedy is so low brow and the animation is shit. The comedy isn't always low brow and even when it is that's the point, and honestly it's not the kind of show that needs good animation. It's not perfect, it's flawed as hell, but it feels like people went in expecting something it was not. Also, predictably, Ping Pong the Animation for the common remarks about it's artstyle. |
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| I was very defensive of Darling in the FranXX while it was airing, truly believing that it was doing something incredible that people just couldn't see. And, well, that really came back to bite me with the awful ending. Not even I was willing to defend that. |
| For me, I'm going to have to go with One Piece. All my friends in real life think I'm crazy for putting myself through an anime that has 900+ ongoing episodes. They won't even give it a try because it has so many episodes. I just feel like that shouldn't be the ONLY reason you don't like a series. Like some series are long but are really good such as Hunter x Hunter and Inuyasha. I do believe that One Piece also falls under that category |
LaurenDec 5, 2019 10:42 PM
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| None. I wouldn't even care if someone talked mad shit about the favorites on my list. I guess if one of them got the SAO treatment I'd feel something, lol. |
| You will get used to it if you are FT fans where you are pretty much attacked by all side and your show is viewed as public enemy no 2(the first one is SAO). |
 Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together. |
| Sao alicization. I was neutral to the Sao feud earlier and thought it was a meh anime. But with alicization, I got so much attached with the characters that I get angry and defensive whenever someone bashes it with same reasons that aren't even relevant to the show anymore and feel like everyone is stuck in 2014. Lol |
| SAO PROGRESSIVE ANIME HYPE |
| I don't really actively defend anything, but I sure as hell am getting tired of seeing people crap on SAO, Fairy Tail, Is it okay to pick up girls in a dungeon?, etc. Like, come on guys, they're mid-level shows at worst, they are nowhere near being the worst anime in any category. Not liking them is fine, but when the discussion around them is almost exclusively negative, it just gets to a point where it doesn't matter anymore cause everyone's just trying to find something new to complain about instead of actually discussing the show. Oh, and P.S. if you're going to claim "X thing is the worst thing in Y catergory" then you better have seen at least 50 things in that category if you want to even start to be taken seriously. No this isn't gatekeeping, this is me telling you to make sure you're informed enough to make your statements before you go around making authoritative claims about something. |
| "If it's not big, it's only a bust," some guy on the internet |
| Hmm nothing really. I do tend to defend SAO from time to time, but I don't really care if people criticize anything I enjoyed. I rather get into arguments if I think something popular is bad. |
| Fate UBW, Heaven's Feel, Zero. Thoes are the only ones I always defend. |
| Regardless of what other people think I will always consider Little Busters refrain to be better than Clannad, and I will always defend it as a good show. I am also a huge Toaru apologist because I know the source material for most of the series is good but the adaption went to a trash studio. |
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| I would have to say SAO. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge SAO fan or anything, but I feel the hate it gets is grossly over exaggerated. I mean really, I know this is completely subjective, but I can name at least 30 anime if not more that I'd consider much much worse. |
| I am not defensive about any of the shows not even my favourites. Any genre and anime has its fans and haters, there are dosens who would belittle your taste, your likes or scores and you would never come to an understanding because your tastes, experiences, temperament, notions of relaxation etc. are different or simply because of the age difference so why would I work myself up on or bother with a bit of hating on my favourites. That doesn't mean I won't engage in a quarrel about an anime but not because I am defensive just for the sake of it. |
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| For me it would be SAO.At first I also used to hate that show.But after expanding my taste I had watched shows far worse than SAO.For me SAO is just an average show and should not get all that hate. |
| Kashimashi: Girl Meets Girl. Hazumu are a misunderstood character,People calling her a trans?? No she was given female DNA please learn what a chromosome is or shut up!! Then she often being accuse for being a he in her past!! Which is wrong she was a HEN and had two settings of chromosome .But she was always much closer to a female then a male .Being extremely feminine in her behaviour looks,, missing the adam's apple, putting on pink dresses and so on!! The anime clearly state this was always a female but for some reason it goes beyond some peoples heads Hazumu is MY lesbian princess!!,,YEEES!! That got the greatest gift ever to find her true self. And I get very defensive when people calling her a trans or a fucking he!! She have always been my girl!! Only anime I defend =P the rest can fend for themselves,,But this is special!! She is special!!  |
Yuri-CrusaderDec 6, 2019 11:41 PM
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| Mirrai Nikki. I always find idiots on MAL complaining about the weak normal average kid protagonist. It's always the same crap with them lol. There were no issues I could find out of watching it 2/3 times yet some guy on here said its FULL OF plotholes. I told that guy respectfully to tell me about those Plotholes. Never heard from him since Now I could be wrong, my memory isn't the best. However, I am very sharp and critical when it comes to anime. I don't like effortlessly thrown together stories. |
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FinalReality56 said: Granbelm for sure. It gets a decent amount of flak for being a "Madoka clone" but dear lord is it an excellent tribute to 2D animated mecha ...aaand the mecha in it is 3D CGI and absurdly ugly. HeruruMeruru said: Trigun and especially Vash is very important to me and it feels like a personal insult when people talk shit about him or the series. You must admit that the TV is cheaply made and has some technical problems. I liked the movie tho, great visuals. Attackonfiller said: SNK, I guess. It's just annoying hearing the same complaints that aren't even relevant to the series anymore from people who will be forever stuck in 2013. The problem is that it treats it's watchers as idiots from the beginning (and its fans love this). There is no way it gets better attitude latter. Attackonfiller said: What really heats me up though, is people who hate on sports anime because it's animated sports. No, the problem with sport animes is that ther doesn't care about said sport - they are usualy melodrama in sport setting. TheKawaiiToon said: My Hero Academia May be your average battle shonen, but this time the characters are actually well developed. About this and other battle shounens - you don't care about the character development of a character you hate, isn't it? |
alshuDec 6, 2019 2:24 AM
lxauren said: For me, I'm going to have to go with One Piece. All my friends in real life think I'm crazy for putting myself through an anime that has 900+ ongoing episodes. They won't even give it a try because it has so many episodes. I just feel like that shouldn't be the ONLY reason you don't like a series. Like some series are long but are really good such as Hunter x Hunter and Inuyasha. I do believe that One Piece also falls under that category I agree with you so much!!There is so many good things about One piece but of course people won’t give it the time of day because of the length ;_;I feel like when people talk about shounen they always over generalize all the shows in that category as generic trash and refuse to watch them because of its tropes,and one piece gets overlooked a lot because of that. |
SummerynDec 6, 2019 2:08 AM
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Short_Circut said: Hoshiai no Sora is a recent one mainly because it's a drama so it's automatically gonna be bipolar. Never have I seen the word 'contrived' thrown around so many times in episode discussions for a while now to the point where I feel like it's just being thrown around for the shits and giggles. That and the fact that some people can't take the slightest mention of lgbt or parental abuse without throwing "forced" everywhere” You know what I am getting so sick of these people,because these are very real things that the show is exploring and people can’t help but criticize the fact that the show has said ‘drama’,when it’s exploring it in such a sensible way. |
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| The kind of “oddly defensive” is so damn foolish - getting angry over things can’t be more trivial and utilizing every last brain cells to blindly query whilst it should’ve been used for other contributions, or at least, some constructive and openly acknowledging debates. The mindset of thinking so highly for oneself, which to a point that whenever a relatively “familiar” criticism arises, one looks down upon the other, is beyond absurd. I get this very familiar disparagement which states “Monogatari fan as expected” after my low-rated review on Bunny Girl Movie. How irrational and obstinate. Pakumen- said: Himegoto when people say that traps are gay. More like people hate that awful pile of raffle because it’s blatantly offensive and if only you are like overly lascivious aka vilely horny that you might find it arousing. |
PreacheeDec 6, 2019 3:51 AM
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Preachee said: More like people hate that awful pile of raffle because it’s blatantly offensive and if only you are like overly lascivious aka vilely horny that you might find it arousing. I mean, it was obvious that my post was a joke (I haven't finished Himegoto) and I think by the way you wrote yours, is also sarcasm, but I am not sure so I am just gonna say that yeah, idc about Himegoto. ---------------------------------- TheKawaiiToon said: Kimetsu no Yaiba Also, hate him all you want but Zenitsu is best boy and I get a little irritated when people hate on him as well as characters who are just like him. I agree with your opinion on Demon Slayer msotly, but man, you can't disrespect Inosuke like that, he IS best boy...but to be honest he is more like best Boar. More seriously you can't deny that Zenitsu is way over the top. For me he feels like a mix between Sanji and Mineta without Sanji's good qualities, and to be frank I had to turn down the volume if he and Inosuke were on the screen at the same time, because as beautiful as the soundtrack may be, two dudes screaming until their lungs go dry is very, VERY upsetting. |
Pakumen- said: Preachee said: More like people hate that awful pile of raffle because it’s blatantly offensive and if only you are like overly lascivious aka vilely horny that you might find it arousing. I mean, it was obvious that my post was a joke (I haven't finished Himegoto) and I think by the way you wrote yours, is also sarcasm, but I am not sure so I am just gonna say that yeah, idc about Himegoto. It is sarcastic if you were being sarcastic, simultaneously an expression of profuse contempt if you were ever serious. So both ways work. |
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| Isekai anime in general. For a lot of people "isekai" is literally a buzzword, and they just start trashing on them without actually seeing if the plot is good or not. |
| bruh |
| Sword Art Online, Fairy Gone, and The Irregular at Magic High School are seemingly universally panned by the vocal minority and I generally don't agree with the reasons given. |
| "Laws exist only for those who cannot live without clinging onto them." -Souske Aizen "Bleach"  |
| Steins;Gate, when they call it a harem |
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alshu said: FinalReality56 said: Granbelm for sure. It gets a decent amount of flak for being a "Madoka clone" but dear lord is it an excellent tribute to 2D animated mecha ...aaand the mecha in it is 3D CGI and absurdly ugly. Did you even watch the show? There's not a single instance of the mecha being in CGI. The creators literally stated in interviews that they created the show so that the new generation that's grown up on 3D mecha could see the charm of 2D mecha. Ugly's a matter of preference, I get that most people don't like SD mechas but I'm used to it from playing Super Robot Wars. I like the sleekness of the designs even if they are a little stumpy. |
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I saw the first mech appearing and dropped it there...and it was 3D CGI with totally ridiculous design. FinalReality56 said: The creators literally stated in interviews Maybe they are playing with the the terminology - like having some pre animation in 3D and then tracing it by hand or even easier - putting some image degrading filters but it's definitely computer assisted. FinalReality56 said: that they created the show so that the new generation that's grown up on 3D mecha could see the charm of 2D mecha. So they are even delusional. |
Short_Circut said: Kenja no Mago as well oddly, mainly because romance wise it's one of the best isekais out there What is so good about the romance in Kenja no Mago? Does isekai have good romance? |
Steiner1411 said: Steins;Gate, when they call it a harem It has clear romance routes, maybe not harem but characters are clearly done to be possible romances for the main character. Kruszer said: Sword Art Online, Fairy Gone, and The Irregular at Magic High School are seemingly universally panned by the vocal minority and I generally don't agree with the reasons given. What are their reasons and why do you disagree? |
alshu said: FinalReality56 said: Granbelm for sure. It gets a decent amount of flak for being a "Madoka clone" but dear lord is it an excellent tribute to 2D animated mecha ...aaand the mecha in it is 3D CGI and absurdly ugly. HeruruMeruru said: Trigun and especially Vash is very important to me and it feels like a personal insult when people talk shit about him or the series. You must admit that the TV is cheaply made and has some technical problems. I liked the movie tho, great visuals. Attackonfiller said: SNK, I guess. It's just annoying hearing the same complaints that aren't even relevant to the series anymore from people who will be forever stuck in 2013. The problem is that it treats it's watchers as idiots from the beginning (and its fans love this). There is no way it gets better attitude latter. Attackonfiller said: What really heats me up though, is people who hate on sports anime because it's animated sports. No, the problem with sport animes is that ther doesn't care about said sport - they are usualy melodrama in sport setting. TheKawaiiToon said: My Hero Academia May be your average battle shonen, but this time the characters are actually well developed. About this and other battle shounens - you don't care about the character development of a character you hate, isn't it? I'm not talking about those criticisms. To me those are all valid criticisms. In the case of SNK, I'm talking about early complaints like, "It's nothing but shallow shock factor" or "there is no character development". In the case of sports anime, I'm talking about people who hate it because it's not real, and think what's the point in watching animated sports when you can just watch the real thing lol |
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Safeanew said: Short_Circut said: Kenja no Mago as well oddly, mainly because romance wise it's one of the best isekais out there What is so good about the romance in Kenja no Mago? Does isekai have good romance? Because it's one of the few isekai's that not only has a romance that has no love triangle involved (where obviously main girl wins), but it also has actual romantic progression and they actually become lovers Romance in isekai is absolute garbage, a majority of them are just fanservice bait or they end up adding a bunch of characters which end up making the mc and femc's interactions just for the sake of plot (e.g., Shield Hero) Missaliensan said: Short_Circut said: Hoshiai no Sora is a recent one mainly because it's a drama so it's automatically gonna be bipolar. Never have I seen the word 'contrived' thrown around so many times in episode discussions for a while now to the point where I feel like it's just being thrown around for the shits and giggles. That and the fact that some people can't take the slightest mention of lgbt or parental abuse without throwing "forced" everywhere” You know what I am getting so sick of these people,because these are very real things that the show is exploring and people can’t help but criticize the fact that the show has said ‘drama’,when it’s exploring it in such a sensible way. Drama is always gonna have people who either absolutely love it or absolutely despise it One funny thing about this drama though, is that especially in the early episode discussions a lot of people were complaining about the show not being "realistic" but then when the family issues stuff was brought up the responses were "I watch anime as a form of escapism, doesn't matter if it's realistic or not" or stuff along those lines. like wut |
Short_CircutDec 6, 2019 8:18 AM
'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| I don’t get oddly defensive but I rarely see people give Blood+ any sort of love. It’s a good show that I like a lot. It’s ending is kinda stupid in how they completely violate the lore but in every other regard it is atleast a good anime. |
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